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Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:

Well, let's put it this way - right from the git-go, it was a learning
experience.

1 - When flying Southwest Airlines, get the A ticket boarding pass.

2 - Fly another airline.


It's not so bad. Kind of like a cattle car in the sky. You
get what you pay for!

3 - , If you are buying out-of-state, spend some time on the phone
calling marina managers and check on the rep of the broker and his
company.

3a - I did this with a surveyor - I didn't do it with the broker.

3b - If anybody needs the name of a really good NC surveyor who, as
the day went on, was more than understanding and eventually provided
me with some good prospects for similar boats, let me know.


Hmm, I'm in NC... would have been glad to let you know local
reps (if any). As it is, maybe we should compare notes.




6a - Ensure that the owner understands that he/she will actually be
selling the boat if the survey and sea trial are acceptable to the
purchaser - not as a method to find out "how much the boat is worth".


Now that is a ****er. If you need a local contractor to
break some elbows, I cannot help. Really, absolutely don't
know anybody like that, no sir.

During our boat buying frenzies, we came across some pretty
sorry behavior including outright fraud. It's bad for all
concerned.

7 - Did I mention check the rep of the broker and his company?

8 - Did I mention never, ever fly Southwest Airlines?


Yes.
For trips I want to take but not spend much money on, I'd
fly SW again. For trips that somebody else wants me to take,
I go first class only. For trips that I want to take that
are expensive enough that the added cost of 1st class is
only a slightincrement, I go 1st class. Being able to
actually sit up in those torture racks called "airplane
seats" is priceless and I ain't getting' any younger.


And I rented Hummer just for yuck's - man, that was fun. :)

Only because you are evil. Think about the poor little
endangered species that are dead because of your polluting ways!

DSK

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... Think about the poor little
endangered species that are dead because of your polluting ways!


Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:
Damn straight!!

If all the poor little endangered species can't adapt, screw 'em -
natural selection in action. :)


Give 'em time, and they *would* adapt. Are you willing to
take a couple hundred years (or however long a few thousand
generations add up to, in whatever species is under
consideration) to drive your Hummer? Slow ride!

DSK

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Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:
And I'll tell you what - that Hummer really sucks gas.

Really? Who knew?!?

DSK

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"DSK" wrote in message
...
... Think about the poor little endangered species that are dead because
of your polluting ways!


Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:
Damn straight!!

If all the poor little endangered species can't adapt, screw 'em -
natural selection in action. :)


Give 'em time, and they *would* adapt. Are you willing to take a couple
hundred years (or however long a few thousand generations add up to, in
whatever species is under consideration) to drive your Hummer? Slow ride!

DSK


The Hummer has a 3 year, 36,000 mile warranty. The species better get their
act together.

Eisboch

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On Tue, 18 Jul 2006 20:05:50 -0400, Eisboch wrote:


The Hummer has a 3 year, 36,000 mile warranty. The species better get
their act together.

IIRC, Hummer is not going to make the H1 anymore. I think the H2 and H3
are still being manufactured.

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On Wed, 19 Jul 2006 07:20:21 -0400, thunder wrote:

On Tue, 18 Jul 2006 20:05:50 -0400, Eisboch wrote:


The Hummer has a 3 year, 36,000 mile warranty. The species better get
their act together.

IIRC, Hummer is not going to make the H1 anymore. I think the H2 and H3
are still being manufactured.

Yup, the H1 is no more.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...051201782.html

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"thunder" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 19 Jul 2006 07:20:21 -0400, thunder wrote:

On Tue, 18 Jul 2006 20:05:50 -0400, Eisboch wrote:


The Hummer has a 3 year, 36,000 mile warranty. The species better get
their act together.

IIRC, Hummer is not going to make the H1 anymore. I think the H2 and H3
are still being manufactured.

Yup, the H1 is no more.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...051201782.html


As long as the 54% is let out of its cage every so often, there will be
another stupid vehicle offered, just for them.

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Eisboch wrote:
"DSK" wrote in message
...
... Think about the poor little endangered species that are dead because
of your polluting ways!


Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:
Damn straight!!

If all the poor little endangered species can't adapt, screw 'em -
natural selection in action. :)


Give 'em time, and they *would* adapt. Are you willing to take a couple
hundred years (or however long a few thousand generations add up to, in
whatever species is under consideration) to drive your Hummer? Slow ride!

DSK


The Hummer has a 3 year, 36,000 mile warranty. The species better get their
act together.

Eisboch

And they are horrible in terms of cost of repair, frequency of repair,
and cost of maintenence.

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"basskisser" wrote in message
oups.com...

Eisboch wrote:
"DSK" wrote in message
...
... Think about the poor little endangered species that are dead
because
of your polluting ways!


Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:
Damn straight!!

If all the poor little endangered species can't adapt, screw 'em -
natural selection in action. :)


Give 'em time, and they *would* adapt. Are you willing to take a couple
hundred years (or however long a few thousand generations add up to, in
whatever species is under consideration) to drive your Hummer? Slow
ride!

DSK


The Hummer has a 3 year, 36,000 mile warranty. The species better get
their
act together.

Eisboch

And they are horrible in terms of cost of repair, frequency of repair,
and cost of maintenence.


Only the best for our oil industry workers....or....soldiers. Which do we
call them?

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JoeSpareBedroom wrote:


As long as the 54% is let out of its cage every so often, there will be
another stupid vehicle offered, just for them.

Is there some reason you want to drag this discussion into a political
crapfest?

Get thee a clue. :-(

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Chuck Gould wrote:
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:


As long as the 54% is let out of its cage every so often, there will be
another stupid vehicle offered, just for them.

Is there some reason you want to drag this discussion into a political
crapfest?

Get thee a clue. :-(

Chuck, I find it odd that you'd condemn this post by claiming to turn
in into a "political crapfest" when you are engaged in just such a
conversation in the thread titled "Audio terrorists take to the water"

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basskisser wrote:

Chuck, I find it odd that you'd condemn this post by claiming to turn
in into a "political crapfest" when you are engaged in just such a
conversation in the thread titled "Audio terrorists take to the water"

Not at all. I consistently condemned the behavior of a poster who shot
arrows into another boat because she felt the music was loud and
offensive. That poster and her buddies from some white-supremacy group
tried to drag the conversation into a "Gould's a Jew!" and other
unenlightened directions. I tried to reference the original wackoid's
objectionable boating behavior, not primarily her objectionable
philosophies, throughout the thread.

Besides, I don't know of a single political group that would (at least
openly) claim any of those folks GDing "ghetto dwellers" and "Jews". Do
you?

The political trolling has died down here, and by a lot. For a while
the few remaining guys spoling for a fight seemed to be from the right
hand end of the spectrum- but in the last few days we're seeing a
resurgence from the moderate and liberal camps.

Implying that 54% of the population is dumber than dirt, when the only
significant thing associated with 54% is the 4% plurality that gave
Bush a second term, is needless.
If somebody can point out to me how political crap slinging enhances a
group supposed to be organized to discuss boating topics, I'll retire
this fricking soap box. :-)

There are a lot of NG's where the topic is ignored and people just
trade insults and political "talking points" all day. The participants
here can choose to go back to the mode we were once in, or not. The
reason it's important to apply some peer pressure here and there is
that it only takes a few people to change the dynamics of a group like
this.....for the better or for the worse.

Diaster in waiting....
 

On 19 Jul 2006 14:56:59 -0700, "Chuck Gould"
wrote:

snipped

The political trolling has died down here, and by a lot. For a while
the few remaining guys spoling for a fight seemed to be from the right
hand end of the spectrum-

snipped

That's garbage. It has always taken both sides to have an argument. I won't
mention names, but the one giving you the most heat for being
anti-political sure as hell isn't from the right end of the spectrum.
--
******************************************
***** Have a Spectacular Day! *****
******************************************

John

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Chuck Gould wrote:
basskisser wrote:

Chuck, I find it odd that you'd condemn this post by claiming to turn
in into a "political crapfest" when you are engaged in just such a
conversation in the thread titled "Audio terrorists take to the water"

Not at all. I consistently condemned the behavior of a poster who shot
arrows into another boat because she felt the music was loud and
offensive. That poster and her buddies from some white-supremacy group
tried to drag the conversation into a "Gould's a Jew!" and other
unenlightened directions. I tried to reference the original wackoid's
objectionable boating behavior, not primarily her objectionable
philosophies, throughout the thread.

I understand, but the fact remains, it became political in nature, and
you added to it.

Besides, I don't know of a single political group that would (at least
openly) claim any of those folks GDing "ghetto dwellers" and "Jews". Do
you?

Yes, I do.

The political trolling has died down here, and by a lot. For a while
the few remaining guys spoling for a fight seemed to be from the right
hand end of the spectrum- but in the last few days we're seeing a
resurgence from the moderate and liberal camps.

Politics is in everyone's life every day because of the oil war we're
in. Some realize it's a mistake, others say anything and everything to
try and defend it.

Implying that 54% of the population is dumber than dirt, when the only
significant thing associated with 54% is the 4% plurality that gave
Bush a second term, is needless.
If somebody can point out to me how political crap slinging enhances a
group supposed to be organized to discuss boating topics, I'll retire
this fricking soap box. :-)

There are a lot of NG's where the topic is ignored and people just
trade insults and political "talking points" all day. The participants
here can choose to go back to the mode we were once in, or not. The
reason it's important to apply some peer pressure here and there is
that it only takes a few people to change the dynamics of a group like
this.....for the better or for the worse.

If someone doesn't want to get into muds slinging, they won't. If they
are looking for an argument, they're sure to find it.

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On 19 Jul 2006 15:28:45 -0700, "basskisser" wrote:


Chuck Gould wrote:
basskisser wrote:

Chuck, I find it odd that you'd condemn this post by claiming to turn
in into a "political crapfest" when you are engaged in just such a
conversation in the thread titled "Audio terrorists take to the water"

Not at all. I consistently condemned the behavior of a poster who shot
arrows into another boat because she felt the music was loud and
offensive. That poster and her buddies from some white-supremacy group
tried to drag the conversation into a "Gould's a Jew!" and other
unenlightened directions. I tried to reference the original wackoid's
objectionable boating behavior, not primarily her objectionable
philosophies, throughout the thread.

I understand, but the fact remains, it became political in nature, and
you added to it.

Besides, I don't know of a single political group that would (at least
openly) claim any of those folks GDing "ghetto dwellers" and "Jews". Do
you?

Yes, I do.

The political trolling has died down here, and by a lot. For a while
the few remaining guys spoling for a fight seemed to be from the right
hand end of the spectrum- but in the last few days we're seeing a
resurgence from the moderate and liberal camps.

Politics is in everyone's life every day because of the oil war we're
in. Some realize it's a mistake, others say anything and everything to
try and defend it.

Implying that 54% of the population is dumber than dirt, when the only
significant thing associated with 54% is the 4% plurality that gave
Bush a second term, is needless.
If somebody can point out to me how political crap slinging enhances a
group supposed to be organized to discuss boating topics, I'll retire
this fricking soap box. :-)

There are a lot of NG's where the topic is ignored and people just
trade insults and political "talking points" all day. The participants
here can choose to go back to the mode we were once in, or not. The
reason it's important to apply some peer pressure here and there is
that it only takes a few people to change the dynamics of a group like
this.....for the better or for the worse.

If someone doesn't want to get into muds slinging, they won't. If they
are looking for an argument, they're sure to find it.

All it takes is one who's foolish enough to take a trolling bait.
--
******************************************
***** Have a Spectacular Day! *****
******************************************

John

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JohnH wrote:
On 19 Jul 2006 15:28:45 -0700, "basskisser" wrote:


Chuck Gould wrote:
basskisser wrote:

Chuck, I find it odd that you'd condemn this post by claiming to turn
in into a "political crapfest" when you are engaged in just such a
conversation in the thread titled "Audio terrorists take to the water"

Not at all. I consistently condemned the behavior of a poster who shot
arrows into another boat because she felt the music was loud and
offensive. That poster and her buddies from some white-supremacy group
tried to drag the conversation into a "Gould's a Jew!" and other
unenlightened directions. I tried to reference the original wackoid's
objectionable boating behavior, not primarily her objectionable
philosophies, throughout the thread.

I understand, but the fact remains, it became political in nature, and
you added to it.

Besides, I don't know of a single political group that would (at least
openly) claim any of those folks GDing "ghetto dwellers" and "Jews". Do
you?

Yes, I do.

The political trolling has died down here, and by a lot. For a while
the few remaining guys spoling for a fight seemed to be from the right
hand end of the spectrum- but in the last few days we're seeing a
resurgence from the moderate and liberal camps.

Politics is in everyone's life every day because of the oil war we're
in. Some realize it's a mistake, others say anything and everything to
try and defend it.

Implying that 54% of the population is dumber than dirt, when the only
significant thing associated with 54% is the 4% plurality that gave
Bush a second term, is needless.
If somebody can point out to me how political crap slinging enhances a
group supposed to be organized to discuss boating topics, I'll retire
this fricking soap box. :-)

There are a lot of NG's where the topic is ignored and people just
trade insults and political "talking points" all day. The participants
here can choose to go back to the mode we were once in, or not. The
reason it's important to apply some peer pressure here and there is
that it only takes a few people to change the dynamics of a group like
this.....for the better or for the worse.

If someone doesn't want to get into muds slinging, they won't. If they
are looking for an argument, they're sure to find it.

All it takes is one who's foolish enough to take a trolling bait.
--
******************************************
***** Have a Spectacular Day! *****
******************************************

John


This thread is one for the books.

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"JimH" wrote in message
oups.com...
JohnH wrote:
On 19 Jul 2006 15:28:45 -0700, "basskisser" wrote:


Chuck Gould wrote:
basskisser wrote:

Chuck, I find it odd that you'd condemn this post by claiming to
turn
in into a "political crapfest" when you are engaged in just such a
conversation in the thread titled "Audio terrorists take to the
water"

Not at all. I consistently condemned the behavior of a poster who shot
arrows into another boat because she felt the music was loud and
offensive. That poster and her buddies from some white-supremacy group
tried to drag the conversation into a "Gould's a Jew!" and other
unenlightened directions. I tried to reference the original wackoid's
objectionable boating behavior, not primarily her objectionable
philosophies, throughout the thread.

I understand, but the fact remains, it became political in nature, and
you added to it.

Besides, I don't know of a single political group that would (at least
openly) claim any of those folks GDing "ghetto dwellers" and "Jews".
Do
you?

Yes, I do.

The political trolling has died down here, and by a lot. For a while
the few remaining guys spoling for a fight seemed to be from the right
hand end of the spectrum- but in the last few days we're seeing a
resurgence from the moderate and liberal camps.

Politics is in everyone's life every day because of the oil war we're
in. Some realize it's a mistake, others say anything and everything to
try and defend it.

Implying that 54% of the population is dumber than dirt, when the only
significant thing associated with 54% is the 4% plurality that gave
Bush a second term, is needless.
If somebody can point out to me how political crap slinging enhances a
group supposed to be organized to discuss boating topics, I'll retire
this fricking soap box. :-)

There are a lot of NG's where the topic is ignored and people just
trade insults and political "talking points" all day. The participants
here can choose to go back to the mode we were once in, or not. The
reason it's important to apply some peer pressure here and there is
that it only takes a few people to change the dynamics of a group like
this.....for the better or for the worse.

If someone doesn't want to get into muds slinging, they won't. If they
are looking for an argument, they're sure to find it.

All it takes is one who's foolish enough to take a trolling bait.
--
******************************************
***** Have a Spectacular Day! *****
******************************************

John


This thread is one for the books.


BTW: Tom........too bad some folks chose to go south on your original
boating topic. This is a classic example of the dark side of rec.boats and
the jokers who reside there. ;-)

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JohnH wrote:
On 19 Jul 2006 14:56:59 -0700, "Chuck Gould"
wrote:

snipped

The political trolling has died down here, and by a lot. For a while
the few remaining guys spoling for a fight seemed to be from the right
hand end of the spectrum-

snipped

That's garbage. It has always taken both sides to have an argument. I won't
mention names, but the one giving you the most heat for being
anti-political sure as hell isn't from the right end of the spectrum.
--
******************************************
***** Have a Spectacular Day! *****
******************************************

John


Maybe you should have read the rest of the sentence before your jerking
knee hit the
reply icon? You know, that part that notes that the trolling has been
more by the moderate and liberal camps the last few days? :-)

Neither side is blameless.

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basskisser wrote:

If someone doesn't want to get into muds slinging, they won't. If they
are looking for an argument, they're sure to find it.

Agreed. And they should look for arguments elsewhere, IMO, because they
are indeed, as you say, very easy to find.

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On 19 Jul 2006 16:39:46 -0700, "Chuck Gould"
wrote:


JohnH wrote:
On 19 Jul 2006 14:56:59 -0700, "Chuck Gould"
wrote:

snipped

The political trolling has died down here, and by a lot. For a while
the few remaining guys spoling for a fight seemed to be from the right
hand end of the spectrum-

snipped

That's garbage. It has always taken both sides to have an argument. I won't
mention names, but the one giving you the most heat for being
anti-political sure as hell isn't from the right end of the spectrum.
--
******************************************
***** Have a Spectacular Day! *****
******************************************

John


Maybe you should have read the rest of the sentence before your jerking
knee hit the
reply icon? You know, that part that notes that the trolling has been
more by the moderate and liberal camps the last few days? :-)

Neither side is blameless.

I read the entire post. To state that 'for a while the few remaining guys
spoiling for a fight seemed to be from the right' implies that those from
the left were quiet for a time. We both know better.

Neither side is blameless. And as long as there are those (from either
side) foolish enough to take the bait, I'm sure both sides will be
represented.


--
******************************************
***** Have a Spectacular Day! *****
******************************************

John

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Harry Krause wrote:
basskisser wrote:
JimH wrote:


Yes, I agree 100%. You've ruined more threads than I care to count,


Why not give it a rest?

That's odd. Seems as though I remember you and he getting along like
cats and dogs. Now that everyone else has dismissed him because of his
bipolar rants, you and he have become best of buds. If you condone HIS
past behavior here, you have nothing to say to anyone about their
actions in this newsgroup.

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"basskisser" wrote in message
oups.com...

BTW: Tom........too bad some folks chose to go south on your original
boating topic. This is a classic example of the dark side of rec.boats
and
the jokers who reside there. ;-)

Yes, I agree 100%. You've ruined more threads than I care to count,
Jim. I find it fascinating the way your bipolar disorder works. You
seem to have completely forgotten that a couple of months ago, you
ranted and screwed up rec.boats so bad that EVERYONE, including Fritz,
would have nothing to do with you. Now you are here acting
holier-than-thou. Unbelievable.


It would save you a lot of typing if you'd copy & paste the stock responses
to a text file so you can use them later. They're always the same.

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"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
...

"thunder" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 19 Jul 2006 07:20:21 -0400, thunder wrote:

On Tue, 18 Jul 2006 20:05:50 -0400, Eisboch wrote:


The Hummer has a 3 year, 36,000 mile warranty. The species better get
their act together.

IIRC, Hummer is not going to make the H1 anymore. I think the H2 and H3
are still being manufactured.

Yup, the H1 is no more.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...051201782.html


As long as the 54% is let out of its cage every so often, there will be
another stupid vehicle offered, just for them.

Yup:
http://tinyurl.com/odqdp

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"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
ps.com...

basskisser wrote:

Chuck, I find it odd that you'd condemn this post by claiming to turn
in into a "political crapfest" when you are engaged in just such a
conversation in the thread titled "Audio terrorists take to the water"

Not at all. I consistently condemned the behavior of a poster who shot
arrows into another boat because she felt the music was loud and
offensive. That poster and her buddies from some white-supremacy group
tried to drag the conversation into a "Gould's a Jew!" and other
unenlightened directions. I tried to reference the original wackoid's
objectionable boating behavior, not primarily her objectionable
philosophies, throughout the thread.


Good work, Chuck! You've now managed to get scolded even by basskisser. I
must admit that you finally succeeded in uniting this newsgroup, though.

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"Harry Krause" wrote in message
. ..
basskisser wrote:
Harry Krause wrote:
basskisser wrote:
JimH wrote:


Yes, I agree 100%. You've ruined more threads than I care to count,

Why not give it a rest?

That's odd. Seems as though I remember you and he getting along like
cats and dogs. Now that everyone else has dismissed him because of his
bipolar rants, you and he have become best of buds. If you condone HIS
past behavior here, you have nothing to say to anyone about their
actions in this newsgroup.


D'oh. I'm not condoning anything, but all you seem to do here these days
is "pick, pick, pick." To what end? Give it a rest.

I stayed away for awhile, and upon my return I feel like I fell down the
rabbit hole. Thinks just get curiouser and curiouser. Can anybody post a
chart listing whose side every one is on?

It was so much easier when it was liberal/conservative.

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"NOYB" wrote in message
ink.net...

It was so much easier when it was liberal/conservative.

Bye
Nair
Eee
EZ

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"Harry Krause" wrote in message
. ..
NOYB wrote:
"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
ps.com...
basskisser wrote:

Chuck, I find it odd that you'd condemn this post by claiming to turn
in into a "political crapfest" when you are engaged in just such a
conversation in the thread titled "Audio terrorists take to the water"
Not at all. I consistently condemned the behavior of a poster who shot
arrows into another boat because she felt the music was loud and
offensive. That poster and her buddies from some white-supremacy group
tried to drag the conversation into a "Gould's a Jew!" and other
unenlightened directions. I tried to reference the original wackoid's
objectionable boating behavior, not primarily her objectionable
philosophies, throughout the thread.


Good work, Chuck! You've now managed to get scolded even by basskisser.
I must admit that you finally succeeded in uniting this newsgroup,
though.




Chuck is the yenta of rec.boats, helped along by the chief facilitator of
annoying behavior, John Herring.

**************
Have a lovely day!
**************

*
* *
*

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On Thu, 20 Jul 2006 09:52:32 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:

Chuck is the yenta of rec.boats, helped along by the chief facilitator
of annoying behavior, John Herring.

===============

And how would you describe yourself Harry, chief anarchist ?

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On Thu, 20 Jul 2006 13:47:51 GMT, "NOYB" wrote:


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
basskisser wrote:
Harry Krause wrote:
basskisser wrote:
JimH wrote:


Yes, I agree 100%. You've ruined more threads than I care to count,

Why not give it a rest?

That's odd. Seems as though I remember you and he getting along like
cats and dogs. Now that everyone else has dismissed him because of his
bipolar rants, you and he have become best of buds. If you condone HIS
past behavior here, you have nothing to say to anyone about their
actions in this newsgroup.


D'oh. I'm not condoning anything, but all you seem to do here these days
is "pick, pick, pick." To what end? Give it a rest.

I stayed away for awhile, and upon my return I feel like I fell down the
rabbit hole. Thinks just get curiouser and curiouser. Can anybody post a
chart listing whose side every one is on?

It was so much easier when it was liberal/conservative.


Were you on a boat trip? Fishing? What?
--
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***** Have a Spectacular Day! *****
******************************************

John

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***** Have a Spectacular Day! *****
******************************************

John

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NOYB wrote:


I stayed away for awhile, and upon my return I feel like I fell down the
rabbit hole. Thinks just get curiouser and curiouser. Can anybody post a
chart listing whose side every one is on?

It was so much easier when it was liberal/conservative.


The two sides:

1. The "side" that feels the NG is best used as a format for discussion
of boats and boating related topics. (Boating related *not* stretched
to the point where the Iraq War is considered on topic because "boats
use fuel and we get crude oil from the middle east").

2. The "side" that feels posts should routinely begin with OT,
should consist of cut 'n paste political editorials, and isn't above
launching a thread to make a personal attack or pursue a long-standing
feud.

As far as who is on which side, most people here now seem to be trying
to stay on side #1. (A few toe stubs here and there, but the effort is
evident). The few who are on side #2 are now glaringly obvious.

Welcome back NOYB. If you're looking for "easier" posting, I know there
are a lot of groups in the same shape this one was last year where the
liberal/conservative arguments continue to prevail. However, you're a
bright enough guy who actually goes boating and I suspect you could
offer a lot of on topic stuff here. I, for one, am looking forward to a
greater number of boating related posts from down Naples way.

Or, if you feel that it's truly a matter of choosing up "sides", you
could choose side #2.

Diaster in waiting....
 

NOYB wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
. ..
basskisser wrote:
Harry Krause wrote:
basskisser wrote:
JimH wrote:


Yes, I agree 100%. You've ruined more threads than I care to count,

Why not give it a rest?

That's odd. Seems as though I remember you and he getting along like
cats and dogs. Now that everyone else has dismissed him because of his
bipolar rants, you and he have become best of buds. If you condone HIS
past behavior here, you have nothing to say to anyone about their
actions in this newsgroup.


D'oh. I'm not condoning anything, but all you seem to do here these days
is "pick, pick, pick." To what end? Give it a rest.

I stayed away for awhile, and upon my return I feel like I fell down the
rabbit hole. Thinks just get curiouser and curiouser. Can anybody post a
chart listing whose side every one is on?

It was so much easier when it was liberal/conservative.

You can leave again, if you so choose. I don't think anyone missed you.

Diaster in waiting....
 

Harry Krause wrote:
basskisser wrote:
Harry Krause wrote:
basskisser wrote:
JimH wrote:


Yes, I agree 100%. You've ruined more threads than I care to count,

Why not give it a rest?

That's odd. Seems as though I remember you and he getting along like
cats and dogs. Now that everyone else has dismissed him because of his
bipolar rants, you and he have become best of buds. If you condone HIS
past behavior here, you have nothing to say to anyone about their
actions in this newsgroup.


D'oh. I'm not condoning anything, but all you seem to do here these days
is "pick, pick, pick." To what end? Give it a rest.

To what end?? Holy Mackerel! JimH comes here and stirs so much ****
for so long of a time that he turned EVERYBODY against him. Then he
comes back and acts like a nice little puppy who has never done
anything wrong, and abmonishes anybody who even dares to post something
off topic or inflammatory. He needs to clean up his own yard before
bitching about somebody else's. And it appears that you're eating it up
like chum!

Diaster in waiting....
 

"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
oups.com...

NOYB wrote:


I stayed away for awhile, and upon my return I feel like I fell down the
rabbit hole. Thinks just get curiouser and curiouser. Can anybody post
a
chart listing whose side every one is on?

It was so much easier when it was liberal/conservative.


The two sides:

1. The "side" that feels the NG is best used as a format for discussion
of boats and boating related topics. (Boating related *not* stretched
to the point where the Iraq War is considered on topic because "boats
use fuel and we get crude oil from the middle east").

2. The "side" that feels posts should routinely begin with OT,
should consist of cut 'n paste political editorials, and isn't above
launching a thread to make a personal attack or pursue a long-standing
feud.

As far as who is on which side, most people here now seem to be trying
to stay on side #1. (A few toe stubs here and there, but the effort is
evident). The few who are on side #2 are now glaringly obvious.

Welcome back NOYB. If you're looking for "easier" posting, I know there
are a lot of groups in the same shape this one was last year where the
liberal/conservative arguments continue to prevail. However, you're a
bright enough guy who actually goes boating and I suspect you could
offer a lot of on topic stuff here. I, for one, am looking forward to a
greater number of boating related posts from down Naples way.

Or, if you feel that it's truly a matter of choosing up "sides", you
could choose side #2.


Harry *does* have a point about the price/politics connection, Chuck. I keep
asking a question that the 54% are uncomfortable with, and do not answer.
But, you, of all people, should be able to answer it.

Diaster in waiting....
 

On Thu, 20 Jul 2006 15:26:14 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

Harry *does* have a point about the price/politics connection, Chuck. I keep
asking a question that the 54% are uncomfortable with, and do not answer.
But, you, of all people, should be able to answer it.

==========

He did answer it, told you it was off topic in a boating group, and he
is correct.

Current high prices are a political failure of the 70s and 80s,
nothing recent. The supply side is realtively fixed for any given
price point, opportunities are on the demand side.

Diaster in waiting....
 

"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 20 Jul 2006 15:26:14 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

Harry *does* have a point about the price/politics connection, Chuck. I
keep
asking a question that the 54% are uncomfortable with, and do not answer.
But, you, of all people, should be able to answer it.

==========

He did answer it, told you it was off topic in a boating group, and he
is correct.

Current high prices are a political failure of the 70s and 80s,
nothing recent. The supply side is realtively fixed for any given
price point, opportunities are on the demand side.


Here...grab this rope before you sink any further in the mud, Wayne.

Do you listen to the news at all? Think of the last 100 times you've heard
about price increases for a barrel of oil during the last 24 months. Now,
forget the reports you heard when hurricanes were a threat. That leaves 90%
of the reports. A hurricane around oil rigs is a valid reason for price
jitters.

Now, for the remaining 90%, what's the reason mentioned almost 100% of the
time?

Diaster in waiting....
 

"JohnH" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 20 Jul 2006 13:47:51 GMT, "NOYB" wrote:


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
m...
basskisser wrote:
Harry Krause wrote:
basskisser wrote:
JimH wrote:


Yes, I agree 100%. You've ruined more threads than I care to count,

Why not give it a rest?

That's odd. Seems as though I remember you and he getting along like
cats and dogs. Now that everyone else has dismissed him because of his
bipolar rants, you and he have become best of buds. If you condone HIS
past behavior here, you have nothing to say to anyone about their
actions in this newsgroup.


D'oh. I'm not condoning anything, but all you seem to do here these days
is "pick, pick, pick." To what end? Give it a rest.

I stayed away for awhile, and upon my return I feel like I fell down the
rabbit hole. Thinks just get curiouser and curiouser. Can anybody post a
chart listing whose side every one is on?

It was so much easier when it was liberal/conservative.


Were you on a boat trip? Fishing? What?

Of course. Spring and early summer is the best time for fishing down here.

In the last couple of months, I've caught a couple of personal bests: a
35lb. bull dolphin, a 30 lb. kingfish, and a 9 foot nurse shark.

I also caught YT snapper to 4 lbs., grouper to 5 lbs, and countless other
snapper, grunts, bonito, and spanish mackeral...but I consider those just
"bait".

Diaster in waiting....
 

"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
oups.com...

I, for one, am looking forward to a
greater number of boating related posts from down Naples way.

When I'm boating and fishing, I spend less time here talking about boating
and fishing. But red tide is pretty thick here right now, so expect more
frequent posts...but don't hold your breath that they're all about boating.

Diaster in waiting....
 

"NOYB" wrote in message
ink.net...

"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
oups.com...

I, for one, am looking forward to a
greater number of boating related posts from down Naples way.

When I'm boating and fishing, I spend less time here talking about boating
and fishing. But red tide is pretty thick here right now, so expect more
frequent posts...but don't hold your breath that they're all about
boating.

I figured you were busy trying to figure out how to help your president out
of the strategic corner he painted himself into.

Diaster in waiting....
 

"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
...
"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 20 Jul 2006 15:26:14 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

Harry *does* have a point about the price/politics connection, Chuck. I
keep
asking a question that the 54% are uncomfortable with, and do not answer.
But, you, of all people, should be able to answer it.

==========

He did answer it, told you it was off topic in a boating group, and he
is correct.

Current high prices are a political failure of the 70s and 80s,
nothing recent. The supply side is realtively fixed for any given
price point, opportunities are on the demand side.


Here...grab this rope before you sink any further in the mud, Wayne.

Do you listen to the news at all? Think of the last 100 times you've heard
about price increases for a barrel of oil during the last 24 months. Now,
forget the reports you heard when hurricanes were a threat. That leaves
90% of the reports. A hurricane around oil rigs is a valid reason for
price jitters.

Now, for the remaining 90%, what's the reason mentioned almost 100% of the
time?

According to the NY Times, Washington Post, CBS, etc.? Or according to
those without a political axe to grind?