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Speaking of high fuel prices,
I heard rumor (I can't confirm, nor deny) that gas is going to hit $4.
bucks per gal. by august. Not only will that hurt (as in stab) the economy, but my boating will be pretty well done. for a while...... CRAP! |
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wrote in message
oups.com... I heard rumor (I can't confirm, nor deny) that gas is going to hit $4. bucks per gal. by august. Not only will that hurt (as in stab) the economy, but my boating will be pretty well done. for a while...... CRAP! You know how to fix the problem. Right? |
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concerning boating, yeah, convert to steam. or a sail. concerning the
economy? buy oil co. stock.... JoeSpareBedroom wrote: wrote in message oups.com... I heard rumor (I can't confirm, nor deny) that gas is going to hit $4. bucks per gal. by august. Not only will that hurt (as in stab) the economy, but my boating will be pretty well done. for a while...... CRAP! You know how to fix the problem. Right? |
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"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... wrote in message oups.com... I heard rumor (I can't confirm, nor deny) that gas is going to hit $4. bucks per gal. by august. Not only will that hurt (as in stab) the economy, but my boating will be pretty well done. for a while...... CRAP! You know how to fix the problem. Right? Ah yeah, give Israel tthe wink and let em go nuts and put the smack-down on Syria and Iran ? If thats all causing bad oil prices, let em get it all out of their system. Seriously, most of us are driving 4, and 6 cylinder 3, and 4L engines, and not doing it everyday, so its _not_ really hurting us like you may think it is. |
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wrote in message oups.com... I heard rumor (I can't confirm, nor deny) that gas is going to hit $4. bucks per gal. by august. Not only will that hurt (as in stab) the economy, but my boating will be pretty well done. for a while...... CRAP! Was at a boat dealer/marina in Beloit, WI., yesterday and the handwritten sign on the counter said "gasoline, $4.00 per gallon". |
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Mr Wizzard wrote: Seriously, most of us are driving 4, and 6 cylinder 3, and 4L engines, and not doing it everyday, so its _not_ really hurting us like you may think it is. But Semi Trucks don't and they struggle to get better than 6 mpg. Not counting all the fiberglass, plastic, and that you wouldn't imagine being made out of petroleum. it all leads to prices going up in every comodity. |
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wrote in message ups.com... Mr Wizzard wrote: Seriously, most of us are driving 4, and 6 cylinder 3, and 4L engines, and not doing it everyday, so its _not_ really hurting us like you may think it is. But Semi Trucks don't and they struggle to get better than 6 mpg. Not counting all the fiberglass, plastic, and that you wouldn't imagine being made out of petroleum. it all leads to prices going up in every comodity. " Huh " ? ....The guy was talking about "what to do about his boating"... |
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Speaking of high fuel prices,
wrote in message
ups.com... JoeSpareBedroom wrote: wrote in message oups.com... I heard rumor (I can't confirm, nor deny) that gas is going to hit $4. bucks per gal. by august. Not only will that hurt (as in stab) the economy, but my boating will be pretty well done. for a while...... CRAP! You know how to fix the problem. Right? concerning boating, yeah, convert to steam. or a sail. concerning the economy? buy oil co. stock.... In the news, when you hear that a barrel of oil's gone up in price, they always follow that statement with a reason. Do you remember what that reason is? To keep this thread less cluttered, the reason is not supply & demand. |
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"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... wrote in message ups.com... JoeSpareBedroom wrote: wrote in message oups.com... I heard rumor (I can't confirm, nor deny) that gas is going to hit $4. bucks per gal. by august. Not only will that hurt (as in stab) the economy, but my boating will be pretty well done. for a while...... CRAP! You know how to fix the problem. Right? concerning boating, yeah, convert to steam. or a sail. concerning the economy? buy oil co. stock.... In the news, when you hear that a barrel of oil's gone up in price, they always follow that statement with a reason. Do you remember what that reason is? To keep this thread less cluttered, the reason is not supply & demand. Supply and demand. Investment speculation that oil will be scarce in the near future due to destabilization of the Middle East. |
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"Mr Wizzard" wrote in message ... wrote in message ups.com... Mr Wizzard wrote: Seriously, most of us are driving 4, and 6 cylinder 3, and 4L engines, and not doing it everyday, so its _not_ really hurting us like you may think it is. But Semi Trucks don't and they struggle to get better than 6 mpg. Not counting all the fiberglass, plastic, and that you wouldn't imagine being made out of petroleum. it all leads to prices going up in every comodity. " Huh " ? ...The guy was talking about "what to do about his boating"... The price of gas is on my mind every time I fill my car or my boat these days. The more I have to tighten my belt due to the rising cost of goods and services due to the rising cost of fuel, the more I consider the affordability of taking my boat out for a spin. Each of us has our own breaking point. |
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"Bryan" wrote in message .net... "Mr Wizzard" wrote in message ... wrote in message ups.com... Mr Wizzard wrote: Seriously, most of us are driving 4, and 6 cylinder 3, and 4L engines, and not doing it everyday, so its _not_ really hurting us like you may think it is. But Semi Trucks don't and they struggle to get better than 6 mpg. Not counting all the fiberglass, plastic, and that you wouldn't imagine being made out of petroleum. it all leads to prices going up in every comodity. " Huh " ? ...The guy was talking about "what to do about his boating"... The price of gas is on my mind every time I fill my car or my boat these days. Not me. There is nothing you can do about it. I burn around 2.5 gallons/hour. So a couple of hours running the boat now costs me about $16. If prices double I will be out an whole extra $16. Big deal. The more I have to tighten my belt due to the rising cost of goods and services due to the rising cost of fuel, the more I consider the affordability of taking my boat out for a spin. Each of us has our own breaking point. You also have a small boat so start looking at it in real numbers rather than letting it ruin your day. It is the folks with the big boats who are taking the hit. |
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"Bryan" wrote in message
.net... "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... wrote in message ups.com... JoeSpareBedroom wrote: wrote in message oups.com... I heard rumor (I can't confirm, nor deny) that gas is going to hit $4. bucks per gal. by august. Not only will that hurt (as in stab) the economy, but my boating will be pretty well done. for a while...... CRAP! You know how to fix the problem. Right? concerning boating, yeah, convert to steam. or a sail. concerning the economy? buy oil co. stock.... In the news, when you hear that a barrel of oil's gone up in price, they always follow that statement with a reason. Do you remember what that reason is? To keep this thread less cluttered, the reason is not supply & demand. Supply and demand. Investment speculation that oil will be scarce in the near future due to destabilization of the Middle East. Your first idea, supply & demand, will *always* be a factor. Your second reason is the one you could've done something about, and may still be able to. |
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" JimH" jimhUNDERSCOREosudad@yahooDOTcom wrote in message
. .. "Bryan" wrote in message .net... "Mr Wizzard" wrote in message ... wrote in message ups.com... Mr Wizzard wrote: Seriously, most of us are driving 4, and 6 cylinder 3, and 4L engines, and not doing it everyday, so its _not_ really hurting us like you may think it is. But Semi Trucks don't and they struggle to get better than 6 mpg. Not counting all the fiberglass, plastic, and that you wouldn't imagine being made out of petroleum. it all leads to prices going up in every comodity. " Huh " ? ...The guy was talking about "what to do about his boating"... The price of gas is on my mind every time I fill my car or my boat these days. Not me. There is nothing you can do about it. I burn around 2.5 gallons/hour. So a couple of hours running the boat now costs me about $16. If prices double I will be out an whole extra $16. Big deal. The more I have to tighten my belt due to the rising cost of goods and services due to the rising cost of fuel, the more I consider the affordability of taking my boat out for a spin. Each of us has our own breaking point. You also have a small boat so start looking at it in real numbers rather than letting it ruin your day. It is the folks with the big boats who are taking the hit. So, you're intimately familiar with Bryan's budget, and you think he's silly to imagine that the price increases impact him in any way. |
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JoeSpareBedroom wrote: " JimH" jimhUNDERSCOREosudad@yahooDOTcom wrote in message . .. "Bryan" wrote in message .net... "Mr Wizzard" wrote in message ... wrote in message ups.com... Mr Wizzard wrote: Seriously, most of us are driving 4, and 6 cylinder 3, and 4L engines, and not doing it everyday, so its _not_ really hurting us like you may think it is. But Semi Trucks don't and they struggle to get better than 6 mpg. Not counting all the fiberglass, plastic, and that you wouldn't imagine being made out of petroleum. it all leads to prices going up in every comodity. " Huh " ? ...The guy was talking about "what to do about his boating"... The price of gas is on my mind every time I fill my car or my boat these days. Not me. There is nothing you can do about it. I burn around 2.5 gallons/hour. So a couple of hours running the boat now costs me about $16. If prices double I will be out an whole extra $16. Big deal. The more I have to tighten my belt due to the rising cost of goods and services due to the rising cost of fuel, the more I consider the affordability of taking my boat out for a spin. Each of us has our own breaking point. You also have a small boat so start looking at it in real numbers rather than letting it ruin your day. It is the folks with the big boats who are taking the hit. So, you're intimately familiar with Bryan's budget, and you think he's silly to imagine that the price increases impact him in any way. Do you get some sort of pleasure arguing with folks here everyday? Did you take your boat out this weekend Doug? What kind of boat do you have? |
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"JimH" wrote in message
oups.com... JoeSpareBedroom wrote: " JimH" jimhUNDERSCOREosudad@yahooDOTcom wrote in message . .. "Bryan" wrote in message .net... "Mr Wizzard" wrote in message ... wrote in message ups.com... Mr Wizzard wrote: Seriously, most of us are driving 4, and 6 cylinder 3, and 4L engines, and not doing it everyday, so its _not_ really hurting us like you may think it is. But Semi Trucks don't and they struggle to get better than 6 mpg. Not counting all the fiberglass, plastic, and that you wouldn't imagine being made out of petroleum. it all leads to prices going up in every comodity. " Huh " ? ...The guy was talking about "what to do about his boating"... The price of gas is on my mind every time I fill my car or my boat these days. Not me. There is nothing you can do about it. I burn around 2.5 gallons/hour. So a couple of hours running the boat now costs me about $16. If prices double I will be out an whole extra $16. Big deal. The more I have to tighten my belt due to the rising cost of goods and services due to the rising cost of fuel, the more I consider the affordability of taking my boat out for a spin. Each of us has our own breaking point. You also have a small boat so start looking at it in real numbers rather than letting it ruin your day. It is the folks with the big boats who are taking the hit. So, you're intimately familiar with Bryan's budget, and you think he's silly to imagine that the price increases impact him in any way. Do you get some sort of pleasure arguing with folks here everyday? I enjoy slicing you into pieces when you fail to listen. You said "start looking at it in real numbers". Bryan has already done that. He said "Each of us has our breaking point", a statement which is inarguably true, but you pretended it was not. Did you take your boat out this weekend Doug? What kind of boat do you have? I have a 14' Lund. It's been out twice since Thursday. We will leave the house again today around 5:00 to get in some fishing as the temperatures cool down. |
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JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"JimH" wrote in message oups.com... JoeSpareBedroom wrote: " JimH" jimhUNDERSCOREosudad@yahooDOTcom wrote in message . .. "Bryan" wrote in message .net... "Mr Wizzard" wrote in message ... wrote in message ups.com... Mr Wizzard wrote: Seriously, most of us are driving 4, and 6 cylinder 3, and 4L engines, and not doing it everyday, so its _not_ really hurting us like you may think it is. But Semi Trucks don't and they struggle to get better than 6 mpg. Not counting all the fiberglass, plastic, and that you wouldn't imagine being made out of petroleum. it all leads to prices going up in every comodity. " Huh " ? ...The guy was talking about "what to do about his boating"... The price of gas is on my mind every time I fill my car or my boat these days. Not me. There is nothing you can do about it. I burn around 2.5 gallons/hour. So a couple of hours running the boat now costs me about $16. If prices double I will be out an whole extra $16. Big deal. The more I have to tighten my belt due to the rising cost of goods and services due to the rising cost of fuel, the more I consider the affordability of taking my boat out for a spin. Each of us has our own breaking point. You also have a small boat so start looking at it in real numbers rather than letting it ruin your day. It is the folks with the big boats who are taking the hit. So, you're intimately familiar with Bryan's budget, and you think he's silly to imagine that the price increases impact him in any way. Do you get some sort of pleasure arguing with folks here everyday? I enjoy slicing you into pieces when you fail to listen. Only in your mind Doug. Enjoy your day and cheer up. ;-) |
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"JimH" wrote in message oups.com... JoeSpareBedroom wrote: "JimH" wrote in message oups.com... JoeSpareBedroom wrote: " JimH" jimhUNDERSCOREosudad@yahooDOTcom wrote in message . .. "Bryan" wrote in message .net... "Mr Wizzard" wrote in message ... wrote in message ups.com... Mr Wizzard wrote: Seriously, most of us are driving 4, and 6 cylinder 3, and 4L engines, and not doing it everyday, so its _not_ really hurting us like you may think it is. But Semi Trucks don't and they struggle to get better than 6 mpg. Not counting all the fiberglass, plastic, and that you wouldn't imagine being made out of petroleum. it all leads to prices going up in every comodity. " Huh " ? ...The guy was talking about "what to do about his boating"... The price of gas is on my mind every time I fill my car or my boat these days. Not me. There is nothing you can do about it. I burn around 2.5 gallons/hour. So a couple of hours running the boat now costs me about $16. If prices double I will be out an whole extra $16. Big deal. The more I have to tighten my belt due to the rising cost of goods and services due to the rising cost of fuel, the more I consider the affordability of taking my boat out for a spin. Each of us has our own breaking point. You also have a small boat so start looking at it in real numbers rather than letting it ruin your day. It is the folks with the big boats who are taking the hit. So, you're intimately familiar with Bryan's budget, and you think he's silly to imagine that the price increases impact him in any way. Do you get some sort of pleasure arguing with folks here everyday? I enjoy slicing you into pieces when you fail to listen. Only in your mind Doug. Enjoy your day and cheer up. ;-) I'm in a great mood, Jimmy, except when I see people like you who cannot connect the price of gas to anything you've personally done to create the problem. |
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" JimH" jimhUNDERSCOREosudad@yahooDOTcom wrote in message . .. It is the folks with the big boats who are taking the hit. Not me. Beer's still relatively cheap. Eisboch "Soul Source" the dock queen. |
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"Eisboch" wrote in message ... " JimH" jimhUNDERSCOREosudad@yahooDOTcom wrote in message . .. It is the folks with the big boats who are taking the hit. Not me. Beer's still relatively cheap. Yeah, but the price of pretzels and peanuts is about to double. ;-) |
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"Tom G" wrote in message news:acuug.1772$RV.187@trnddc08... "Chuck Gould" wrote in message oups.com... wrote: I heard rumor (I can't confirm, nor deny) that gas is going to hit $4. bucks per gal. by august. Not only will that hurt (as in stab) the economy, but my boating will be pretty well done. for a while...... CRAP! Look for a dramatic moderation in prices immediately after Labor Day. Then expect further notable decreases through the first Tuesday in November. After that, hang on Matilda- I think she's a gonna blow. $5 by next Memorial Day, or $6 a the fuel dock. Just my pessimistic opinion- I could be wrong and I sincerely hope that I am. Can you slow down or stay a bit closer to home port to save the fuel you feel you'll need to save to keep on boating Just bought a 3 gallon tank to replace the defective 6.5 gallon tank for my outboard. Should save/help in two ways...I always had a 1/2 a tank left at the end of the season with the 6.5 gal tank and if I should run out while on the water, using the oars should help reduce this expanding middle that advanced age has brought on. Plus I'm finding it more and more difficult to carry 6.5 gallons of gas down the hill to the boat dock. Tom G. If you row in the same fashion as competitive rowers, it'll do good things for your back muscles, and you might be able to lift a bigger gas tank easily. :-) |
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"Bryan" wrote in message .net... "Mr Wizzard" wrote in message ... wrote in message ups.com... Mr Wizzard wrote: Seriously, most of us are driving 4, and 6 cylinder 3, and 4L engines, and not doing it everyday, so its _not_ really hurting us like you may think it is. But Semi Trucks don't and they struggle to get better than 6 mpg. Not counting all the fiberglass, plastic, and that you wouldn't imagine being made out of petroleum. it all leads to prices going up in every comodity. " Huh " ? ...The guy was talking about "what to do about his boating"... The price of gas is on my mind every time I fill my car or my boat these days. Is it on your mind when you run the lawn mower, or weed wacker too? Point being is that most people associate "boat" with a family outing, and special "fun" event - not something that they have to do every Sunday night before going to work the next day. But year, I hear ya. If you are in the "boater" catagory, you've already made choices in your mind to "justify" spending money thast you didn't have too, so the price increase of gas kinda gets absorbed in that whole mindset. Face it, most people dont 'think about" the price of beer when they go out for beers, or grab a half-rack at the store, or smokes, or the operating cost of a boat. Its just how you think about it, thats all. The more I have to tighten my belt due to the rising cost of goods and services due to the rising cost of fuel, the more I consider the affordability of taking my boat out for a spin. If you feel this way, then whats *really* going on it that you are struggling with the whole idea of having the boat, not the gas price. Its like buying beer and fireworks - some things in life you just don't 'analyze like that. I mean, I guess you _could_, but I think you get the drift. (humm, beer & foreworks for the 4th, or new sneakers for little Johnny, and diapers for Jack-Jack)... Each of us has our own breaking point. True. But moreover, most of us also have a mental "slush fund catagory" in our mind for justifing things. |
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Just bought a 3 gallon tank to replace the defective 6.5 gallon tank for my outboard. Should save/help in two ways...I always had a 1/2 a tank left at the end of the season with the 6.5 gal tank and if I should run out while on the water, using the oars should help reduce this expanding middle that advanced age has brought on. Plus I'm finding it more and more difficult to carry 6.5 gallons of gas down the hill to the boat dock. Tom G. If you row in the same fashion as competitive rowers, it'll do good things for your back muscles, and you might be able to lift a bigger gas tank easily. :-) Right...I'll keep that in mind. :-) Tom G |
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"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... "Bryan" wrote in message .net... "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... wrote in message ups.com... JoeSpareBedroom wrote: wrote in message oups.com... I heard rumor (I can't confirm, nor deny) that gas is going to hit $4. bucks per gal. by august. Not only will that hurt (as in stab) the economy, but my boating will be pretty well done. for a while...... CRAP! You know how to fix the problem. Right? concerning boating, yeah, convert to steam. or a sail. concerning the economy? buy oil co. stock.... In the news, when you hear that a barrel of oil's gone up in price, they always follow that statement with a reason. Do you remember what that reason is? To keep this thread less cluttered, the reason is not supply & demand. Supply and demand. Investment speculation that oil will be scarce in the near future due to destabilization of the Middle East. Your first idea, supply & demand, will *always* be a factor. Your second reason is the one you could've done something about, and may still be able to. Too cryptic for me. I don't understand. You're expecting too much of my intellectual abilities. |
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" JimH" jimhUNDERSCOREosudad@yahooDOTcom wrote in message . .. "Bryan" wrote in message .net... "Mr Wizzard" wrote in message ... wrote in message ups.com... Mr Wizzard wrote: Seriously, most of us are driving 4, and 6 cylinder 3, and 4L engines, and not doing it everyday, so its _not_ really hurting us like you may think it is. But Semi Trucks don't and they struggle to get better than 6 mpg. Not counting all the fiberglass, plastic, and that you wouldn't imagine being made out of petroleum. it all leads to prices going up in every comodity. " Huh " ? ...The guy was talking about "what to do about his boating"... The price of gas is on my mind every time I fill my car or my boat these days. Not me. There is nothing you can do about it. I burn around 2.5 gallons/hour. So a couple of hours running the boat now costs me about $16. If prices double I will be out an whole extra $16. Big deal. The more I have to tighten my belt due to the rising cost of goods and services due to the rising cost of fuel, the more I consider the affordability of taking my boat out for a spin. Each of us has our own breaking point. You also have a small boat so start looking at it in real numbers rather than letting it ruin your day. It is the folks with the big boats who are taking the hit. I'm with you on that, Jim. I was trying to express the idea that it's not just the cost of boating that will cause some people to feel the negative pressures of rising fuel prices on their luxury hobby, small boat or large. The bottom line is that the overall cost of living will cause financial stress of varying magnitudes for each of us and for some it will affect their boating. |
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"Mr Wizzard" wrote in message ... "Bryan" wrote in message .net... "Mr Wizzard" wrote in message ... wrote in message ups.com... Mr Wizzard wrote: Seriously, most of us are driving 4, and 6 cylinder 3, and 4L engines, and not doing it everyday, so its _not_ really hurting us like you may think it is. But Semi Trucks don't and they struggle to get better than 6 mpg. Not counting all the fiberglass, plastic, and that you wouldn't imagine being made out of petroleum. it all leads to prices going up in every comodity. " Huh " ? ...The guy was talking about "what to do about his boating"... The price of gas is on my mind every time I fill my car or my boat these days. Is it on your mind when you run the lawn mower, or weed wacker too? Point being is that most people associate "boat" with a family outing, and special "fun" event - not something that they have to do every Sunday night before going to work the next day. But year, I hear ya. If you are in the "boater" catagory, you've already made choices in your mind to "justify" spending money thast you didn't have too, so the price increase of gas kinda gets absorbed in that whole mindset. Face it, most people dont 'think about" the price of beer when they go out for beers, or grab a half-rack at the store, or smokes, or the operating cost of a boat. Its just how you think about it, thats all. I push my lawn mower. I pull my weed by hand. The price of fuel compared to my pay raises over the last 6 years has had a significant impact on my personally. I do, as you say, make my choice to spend the money, but I make it each time I consider going out. Some days I don't go out. Other days I go out 'cause at any price it will be worth it. The more I have to tighten my belt due to the rising cost of goods and services due to the rising cost of fuel, the more I consider the affordability of taking my boat out for a spin. If you feel this way, then whats *really* going on it that you are struggling with the whole idea of having the boat, not the gas price. True to some degree. The price of owning and operating a boat is a financial struggle for me; a minor one albeit, but not a freebie. Still, we decided to take on the "burden" while our kids were still home with us. Each of us has our own breaking point. True. But moreover, most of us also have a mental "slush fund catagory" in our mind for justifing things. My slush fund is low on ice! |
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"Tom G" wrote in message news:acuug.1772$RV.187@trnddc08... "Chuck Gould" wrote in message oups.com... wrote: I heard rumor (I can't confirm, nor deny) that gas is going to hit $4. bucks per gal. by august. Not only will that hurt (as in stab) the economy, but my boating will be pretty well done. for a while...... CRAP! Look for a dramatic moderation in prices immediately after Labor Day. Then expect further notable decreases through the first Tuesday in November. After that, hang on Matilda- I think she's a gonna blow. $5 by next Memorial Day, or $6 a the fuel dock. Just my pessimistic opinion- I could be wrong and I sincerely hope that I am. Can you slow down or stay a bit closer to home port to save the fuel you feel you'll need to save to keep on boating Just bought a 3 gallon tank to replace the defective 6.5 gallon tank for my outboard. Should save/help in two ways...I always had a 1/2 a tank left at the end of the season with the 6.5 gal tank and if I should run out while on the water, using the oars should help reduce this expanding middle that advanced age has brought on. Plus I'm finding it more and more difficult to carry 6.5 gallons of gas down the hill to the boat dock. Tom G. Your silver lining will save your back, reduce your middle, and ... |
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Actually Chuck, there's more to the story, I'm looking at the whole
picture. The wife and I have a lot of stuff going on financially, we're doing fine, but we're also socking a bunch away, and budgeting stuff. She drives a 2000 chrysler Town 'n Country van wich gets pretty good economy. I drive a 96 plymouth Voyager with a 4 banging work beater. My "tow vehicle" is a 88 Mercury Grand Marq which actually should have been thrown away about 4 years ago, but I still license and insure it just to go with the boat. I need to ditch the Mercury, and get something else. I don't have any need for a pick up, but it's hard to find anything with decent rear wheel drive with good pulling power, or at least what I'm comfortable with. The wife and I both make more than a modest commute to our work places, and burn about $200. a week in gas at the present prices, that also includes the 'round towning' too. And this is using resonable economy vehicles. So what I suppose I'm saying is with paying for a decent tow vehicle (license, ins. etc) especially for a vehicle thats mainly going to sit. , plus the added fuel costs, and what ever other expendetures are needed. It's getting a bit tougher to justify for myself. I LOVE boating, and my little Chris Craft sips fuel. I dont' know about the GPH, but we've always had a fun day on the lake for less than 10 gal in the boat. I suppose I'm really making a much a do about nothing. Boating isn't going to break us, but then again, it's getting more expensive for us all the time. Chuck Gould wrote: wrote: I heard rumor (I can't confirm, nor deny) that gas is going to hit $4. bucks per gal. by august. Not only will that hurt (as in stab) the economy, but my boating will be pretty well done. for a while...... CRAP! Look for a dramatic moderation in prices immediately after Labor Day. Then expect further notable decreases through the first Tuesday in November. After that, hang on Matilda- I think she's a gonna blow. $5 by next Memorial Day, or $6 a the fuel dock. Just my pessimistic opinion- I could be wrong and I sincerely hope that I am. Can you slow down or stay a bit closer to home port to save the fuel you feel you'll need to save to keep on boating? |
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"Bryan" wrote in message .com... "Mr Wizzard" wrote in message ... "Bryan" wrote in message .net... "Mr Wizzard" wrote in message ... wrote in message ups.com... Mr Wizzard wrote: Seriously, most of us are driving 4, and 6 cylinder 3, and 4L engines, and not doing it everyday, so its _not_ really hurting us like you may think it is. But Semi Trucks don't and they struggle to get better than 6 mpg. Not counting all the fiberglass, plastic, and that you wouldn't imagine being made out of petroleum. it all leads to prices going up in every comodity. " Huh " ? ...The guy was talking about "what to do about his boating"... The price of gas is on my mind every time I fill my car or my boat these days. Is it on your mind when you run the lawn mower, or weed wacker too? Point being is that most people associate "boat" with a family outing, and special "fun" event - not something that they have to do every Sunday night before going to work the next day. But year, I hear ya. If you are in the "boater" catagory, you've already made choices in your mind to "justify" spending money thast you didn't have too, so the price increase of gas kinda gets absorbed in that whole mindset. Face it, most people dont 'think about" the price of beer when they go out for beers, or grab a half-rack at the store, or smokes, or the operating cost of a boat. Its just how you think about it, thats all. I push my lawn mower. I pull my weed by hand. The price of fuel compared to my pay raises over the last 6 years has had a significant impact on my personally. I do, as you say, make my choice to spend the money, but I make it each time I consider going out. Some days I don't go out. Other days I go out 'cause at any price it will be worth it. So here's an interesting thought. Try to figure out what the "opportunity cost" is based on gas prices vs. the daily depreciation of your vessel, over the life of the vessel for the time that you own it vs. the number of days that you *don't* go out because of gas proces when you *would* go out otherwise. The more I have to tighten my belt due to the rising cost of goods and services due to the rising cost of fuel, the more I consider the affordability of taking my boat out for a spin. If you feel this way, then whats *really* going on it that you are struggling with the whole idea of having the boat, not the gas price. True to some degree. The price of owning and operating a boat is a financial struggle for me; a minor one albeit, but not a freebie. Still, we decided to take on the "burden" while our kids were still home with us. If I had a wife, and kids who would enjoy a boat outing, then the notion of *not* going out would never even cross my mind. Period. Each of us has our own breaking point. True. But moreover, most of us also have a mental "slush fund catagory" in our mind for justifing things. My slush fund is low on ice! |
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" JimH" jimhUNDERSCOREosudad@yahooDOTcom wrote in message . .. "Eisboch" wrote in message ... " JimH" jimhUNDERSCOREosudad@yahooDOTcom wrote in message . .. It is the folks with the big boats who are taking the hit. Not me. Beer's still relatively cheap. Yeah, but the price of pretzels and peanuts is about to double. ;-) That would suck, but the upshot is that we can all drop the pretzels (just not the peanuts). Hooties go up, and we're all ****ed. |
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"Bryan" wrote in message
.com... "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... "Bryan" wrote in message .net... "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... wrote in message ups.com... JoeSpareBedroom wrote: wrote in message oups.com... I heard rumor (I can't confirm, nor deny) that gas is going to hit $4. bucks per gal. by august. Not only will that hurt (as in stab) the economy, but my boating will be pretty well done. for a while...... CRAP! You know how to fix the problem. Right? concerning boating, yeah, convert to steam. or a sail. concerning the economy? buy oil co. stock.... In the news, when you hear that a barrel of oil's gone up in price, they always follow that statement with a reason. Do you remember what that reason is? To keep this thread less cluttered, the reason is not supply & demand. Supply and demand. Investment speculation that oil will be scarce in the near future due to destabilization of the Middle East. Your first idea, supply & demand, will *always* be a factor. Your second reason is the one you could've done something about, and may still be able to. Too cryptic for me. I don't understand. You're expecting too much of my intellectual abilities. OK: There has been instability in the Middle East since I was old enough to really digest the news. Let's call it 1967. The first major jump in oil prices in my memory was around 1971. Since then, there've been numerous hiccups, usually corresponding to the latest spat between Israel and whomever. Sometimes, the jitters are related to something real, like a hurricane. But, the most frequent jitters have come within the last 5 years or so, during the Iraq invasion. Even if everyone put down their guns tomorrow and we left, President Cheney has created a level of instability which will not fade away for quite some time. You want to see more price stability? Vote for people who know how to fight an enemy like adults, instead of like children hypnotized by a video game. |
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news:gwxug.2953$rT6.1176@trnddc03... Just bought a 3 gallon tank to replace the defective 6.5 gallon tank for my outboard. Should save/help in two ways...I always had a 1/2 a tank left at the end of the season with the 6.5 gal tank and if I should run out while on the water, using the oars should help reduce this expanding middle that advanced age has brought on. Plus I'm finding it more and more difficult to carry 6.5 gallons of gas down the hill to the boat dock. Tom G. If you row in the same fashion as competitive rowers, it'll do good things for your back muscles, and you might be able to lift a bigger gas tank easily. :-) Right...I'll keep that in mind. :-) Tom G It's true! That type of rowing does more for back, shoulder & upper leg muscles than it does for your arms. In competitive rowing, your upper arms don't do much. |
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"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... "Bryan" wrote in message .com... "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... "Bryan" wrote in message .net... "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... wrote in message ups.com... JoeSpareBedroom wrote: wrote in message oups.com... I heard rumor (I can't confirm, nor deny) that gas is going to hit $4. bucks per gal. by august. Not only will that hurt (as in stab) the economy, but my boating will be pretty well done. for a while...... CRAP! You know how to fix the problem. Right? concerning boating, yeah, convert to steam. or a sail. concerning the economy? buy oil co. stock.... In the news, when you hear that a barrel of oil's gone up in price, they always follow that statement with a reason. Do you remember what that reason is? To keep this thread less cluttered, the reason is not supply & demand. Supply and demand. Investment speculation that oil will be scarce in the near future due to destabilization of the Middle East. Your first idea, supply & demand, will *always* be a factor. Your second reason is the one you could've done something about, and may still be able to. Too cryptic for me. I don't understand. You're expecting too much of my intellectual abilities. OK: There has been instability in the Middle East since I was old enough to really digest the news. Let's call it 1967. The first major jump in oil prices in my memory was around 1971. Since then, there've been numerous hiccups, usually corresponding to the latest spat between Israel and whomever. Sometimes, the jitters are related to something real, like a hurricane. But, the most frequent jitters have come within the last 5 years or so, during the Iraq invasion. Even if everyone put down their guns tomorrow and we left, President Cheney has created a level of instability which will not fade away for quite some time. You want to see more price stability? Vote for people who know how to fight an enemy like adults, instead of like children hypnotized by a video game. I see. Thanks for the clarification. A much more interesting reply this time; thought provoking. |
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"Bryan" wrote in message . com... "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... "Bryan" wrote in message .com... "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... "Bryan" wrote in message .net... "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... wrote in message ups.com... JoeSpareBedroom wrote: wrote in message oups.com... I heard rumor (I can't confirm, nor deny) that gas is going to hit $4. bucks per gal. by august. Not only will that hurt (as in stab) the economy, but my boating will be pretty well done. for a while...... CRAP! You know how to fix the problem. Right? concerning boating, yeah, convert to steam. or a sail. concerning the economy? buy oil co. stock.... In the news, when you hear that a barrel of oil's gone up in price, they always follow that statement with a reason. Do you remember what that reason is? To keep this thread less cluttered, the reason is not supply & demand. Supply and demand. Investment speculation that oil will be scarce in the near future due to destabilization of the Middle East. Your first idea, supply & demand, will *always* be a factor. Your second reason is the one you could've done something about, and may still be able to. Too cryptic for me. I don't understand. You're expecting too much of my intellectual abilities. OK: There has been instability in the Middle East since I was old enough to really digest the news. Let's call it 1967. The first major jump in oil prices in my memory was around 1971. Since then, there've been numerous hiccups, usually corresponding to the latest spat between Israel and whomever. Sometimes, the jitters are related to something real, like a hurricane. But, the most frequent jitters have come within the last 5 years or so, during the Iraq invasion. Even if everyone put down their guns tomorrow and we left, President Cheney has created a level of instability which will not fade away for quite some time. You want to see more price stability? Vote for people who know how to fight an enemy like adults, instead of like children hypnotized by a video game. I see. Thanks for the clarification. A much more interesting reply this time; thought provoking. I hope so. It comes from the idea that the CIA has been gradually castrated over the years, and the state department's been staffed by single-minded robots. William Casey, the CIA chief during Reagan's time, was aware of the problem. Not much has been done to fix it since then. These agencies are our most useful weapons in the current "war". |
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"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... "Tom G" wrote in message news:gwxug.2953$rT6.1176@trnddc03... Just bought a 3 gallon tank to replace the defective 6.5 gallon tank for my outboard. Should save/help in two ways...I always had a 1/2 a tank left at the end of the season with the 6.5 gal tank and if I should run out while on the water, using the oars should help reduce this expanding middle that advanced age has brought on. Plus I'm finding it more and more difficult to carry 6.5 gallons of gas down the hill to the boat dock. Tom G. If you row in the same fashion as competitive rowers, it'll do good things for your back muscles, and you might be able to lift a bigger gas tank easily. :-) Right...I'll keep that in mind. :-) Tom G It's true! That type of rowing does more for back, shoulder & upper leg muscles than it does for your arms. In competitive rowing, your upper arms don't do much. I believe you...I just don't see myself doing much rowing by the time I've gotten this 64 yr old body down a 45 degree slope that consists of 45 steps, two piers, and a long ramp to the boat. Had to add a railing to the dock this year so I could get into the boat without losing my balance and going over the other side. I asked my son the other day, when had I turned 90, as that is how I feel. I remember when I was about 25, thinking that I was never going to be like those old guys of 40 that I saw always walking, not running like I usually did at the time. Oh well, enough of my troubles. Tom G. |
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"Tom G" wrote in message news:VcMug.3895$Lw.79@trnddc07... "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... "Tom G" wrote in message news:gwxug.2953$rT6.1176@trnddc03... Just bought a 3 gallon tank to replace the defective 6.5 gallon tank for my outboard. Should save/help in two ways...I always had a 1/2 a tank left at the end of the season with the 6.5 gal tank and if I should run out while on the water, using the oars should help reduce this expanding middle that advanced age has brought on. Plus I'm finding it more and more difficult to carry 6.5 gallons of gas down the hill to the boat dock. Tom G. If you row in the same fashion as competitive rowers, it'll do good things for your back muscles, and you might be able to lift a bigger gas tank easily. :-) Right...I'll keep that in mind. :-) Tom G It's true! That type of rowing does more for back, shoulder & upper leg muscles than it does for your arms. In competitive rowing, your upper arms don't do much. I believe you...I just don't see myself doing much rowing by the time I've gotten this 64 yr old body down a 45 degree slope that consists of 45 steps, two piers, and a long ramp to the boat. Had to add a railing to the dock this year so I could get into the boat without losing my balance and going over the other side. I asked my son the other day, when had I turned 90, as that is how I feel. I remember when I was about 25, thinking that I was never going to be like those old guys of 40 that I saw always walking, not running like I usually did at the time. Oh well, enough of my troubles. Tom G. Some co-workers and I used to drive a few minutes to the Erie Canal, to have lunch at one of the parks. There was a guy with a rowing shell who'd cruise by on most days. He didn't look a day under 80, but he got his boat moving VERY fast. Not the competitive speeds I did in college, but pretty damned good for a guy that age. Don't assume you can't do anything. |
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Chuck Gould wrote: wrote: I suppose I'm really making a much a do about nothing. Boating isn't going to break us, but then again, it's getting more expensive for us all the time. As it is for us all. IMO, it's a matter of discretionary dollars and priorities. Nobody should ever consider taking up boating if it means that the kids won't get a college education or that there won't be money to take care of aging parents or provide for personal retirement. Again IMO, once the "must do's" are handled and the money left over gets apportioned to "want to do's", some people will spend a very high percentage on boating while others may spend only a few of the discretionary dollars on boating while prioritizing golf, international travel, or collecting things like antique cars instead. Well, it didn't wait till august around ehre. Gas shot up a buck over night. at the pumps it's now $4.06 per gal. This sucks! |
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