On 15 Jul 2006 12:51:52 -0700, wrote:

you're absolutely right John, especially for your daughters cause.
Agreed! $5K IS worth more than a buck.

but his name isn't......



JohnH wrote:
On Sat, 15 Jul 2006 15:20:07 -0400, Bert Robbins wrote:


Why are you so hung up on $5000? If it is the principle of the thing
then a bet of $1 should suffice.

The cause is the Breast Cancer Foundation, to which $5000 means more than
$1,


But...the money is only payable if he loses!
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wrote:
basskisser wrote:
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HA!

Grow up.

Flake off.

Again, good job showing your lack of intellect and maturity.

Bert Robbins wrote:
basskisser wrote:
Bert Robbins wrote:
basskisser wrote:
Bert Robbins wrote:
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"Bert Robbins" wrote in message
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If Mars and the Earth are warming and cooling on the same cycle then it
would lead anyone with any intelligence to conclude that forces outside
of the two planets are the cause of the warming and cooling.
So, like Mr Question Mark and his twin, you also believe that our human
activities have ZERO EFFECT on global warming. Right?
What percentage of global warming on earth do you attribute to the human
effect? Also, what percentage of global warming on Mars do you attribute
to human effect?
I've read this several times, and yet, and do not see an answer to the
simple question I asked you. One last time. I'll put some more space before
the question so it's easy for you to see.
Why do you want others to answer your questions when you won't answer
their questions?

Do you believe that the human contribution to global warming is ZERO?
I believe that the effect that humans have on global warming is
statistically insignificant. If I had to put a percentage on it it would
be 0.0000000000001%
Please show evidence of that number. And if you can cite any scientific
data that backs that number up, then show how that would or would not
be significant.

You couldn't comprehend the explanation because it is bigger than all of
us. As I said before, there are forces greater than man at work and the
effects of those forces can be seen on other heavenly bodies but, you
are blind to them.

If you are so sure I'm Kevin, you'd have no risk. Care to take the
challenge? Put up, or shut up.


You are Kevin Noble, the pot growing and pot smoking idiot from Georgia.

Put up or shut up, little boy. Please show what evidence you have of
ANY of the above. Or are you just saying that out of pure ignorance?

Bert Robbins wrote:
basskisser wrote:
Bert Robbins wrote:
basskisser wrote:
Bert Robbins wrote:
Dan Krueger wrote:
basskisser wrote:

Bert Robbins wrote:

JoeSpareBedroom wrote:

"Bert Robbins" wrote in message
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"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
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When you give me your evidence backing up YOUR statements that:
1. Global warming is "all mother nature (not humans)
It is IMPOSSIBLE for our activities to NOT have an effect on global
warming. Anyone who wasn't picking their nose all through high
school
physics is aware of this fact.
Please quantify the HUMAN effect.
He can't quantify the human effect becasue there is not informaiton
from
observation to forum a consensus on the human effect of the global
warming
equation.

This discussion is not about HOW MUCH effect. It's about a simple
idea: Do
we have any effect greater than none, or not. We have to conduct this
discussion in baby steps, for reasons obvious to everyone except
those who
require the baby steps.
The effect that we, the human race, have upon earth's global warming is
statistically insignificant, when compared to other forces at play in
the whole global warming of planets issue.
Proof? Let's see those university studies that prove the above
sentence.

The fact that you attribute so much effect to humans shows that rather
than having your finger up your nose in high school physics class you
instead had your head up your ass.
Petty and childish name calling and silly insults certainly clears up
the issue, huh?

The KING has spoken. Thanks, Kevin.
Kevin will be back on the newsgroup Monday morning, expect a snide
retort then.
Bert, care to take the $5000 challenge to prove that I'm not Kevin? Put
up or shut up.

Sure, you go first and if I believe you I might give you $5.00.

What's the matter, not willing to risk the money, little guy? If you
are so damned sure of yourself, there is no risk. Put up or shut up.


Why are you so hung up on $5000? If it is the principle of the thing
then a bet of $1 should suffice.

Because I think it's high time you paid for your ignorance.

To who? You?




basskisser wrote:
wrote:
basskisser wrote:
wrote:
HA!

Grow up.

Flake off.

Again, good job showing your lack of intellect and maturity.

"basskisser" wrote in message
oups.com...

JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"basskisser" wrote in message
ups.com...


Bert, care to take the $5000 challenge to prove that I'm not Kevin? Put
up or shut up.


How would that work, anyway?

Simple, I've said all along that I'm not Kevin. I offered to prove that
point to anyone who would put up $5000 to John's charity. So far, the
blow hards are just that. Not willing to risk the $5000, which, if they
are so sure that I'm Kevin, wouldn't be a risk at all.


Maybe if you say you'll give the money to Greenpeace, they'd jump at the
opportunity.

Or not. :-)

"Bert Robbins" wrote in message
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JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"Bert Robbins" wrote in message
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JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"Bert Robbins" wrote in message
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be 0.0000000000001%
Please show evidence of that number. And if you can cite any
scientific
data that backs that number up, then show how that would or would
not
be significant.

You couldn't comprehend the explanation because it is bigger than
all of us. As I said before, there are forces greater than man at
work and the effects of those forces can be seen on other heavenly
bodies but, you are blind to them.


You're absolutely right. When will YOU be publishing your research
methods? Don't give me links to someone else's. I want to see
YOURS.
Just for you Doug I will post it here.

Go outside on a cloudless day and look up at the bright shinny thing
in the sky and feel the heat radiating from it.

Silly child.
If you are under the delusion that the Sun has no effect on the Earth
then you are the real silly child due to the fact that you are trying
to change peoples behavior under the misguided premise that global
warming is just another tool to use in the class warfare struggle.

I wish I knew where you got the idea that I believe that nonsense about
the sun having no effect. But, it really doesn't matter. I know the
REAL reason why you resist the idea that we might be contributing to
warming. You're afraid that if it were proven, you would be asked to
make behavioral changes, and you would interpret that as an attempt to
control you. If George Bush himself walked into your house and told you
the human connection was significant, you would slap his face and
accuse him of switching parties. If your own kid the proof, you'd
disown him.
The human connection is nowhere near what you believe it is.

But, you have no idea what I believe is the extent of the connection. You
keep using that combination of words, which is what makes this so much
fun. You're the poster boy for reading comprehension problems.

Why don't you just state what you believe. Or, do you want to keep it to
yourself and use this as a point of argument? You really are a piece of
work Doug. You refuse to stand up and state what you believe because you
are afraid, yes afraid, that other people will disagree with you and you
will then have to defend your positon, rather than attacking everyone
else's.

Actually, my only belief is that there IS a connection. It is physically
impossible for there NOT to be. I also believe that it could not hurt ANYONE
if we began changing our habits as if there were proof that there were a BIG
connection. Now, you'll disagree with the "could not hurt anyone" part. I am
prepared to be amused. Bring it on.

"Bert Robbins" wrote in message
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If you are so sure I'm Kevin, you'd have no risk. Care to take the
challenge? Put up, or shut up.


You are Kevin Noble, the pot growing and pot smoking idiot from Georgia.

So what if he grows or smokes pot? Why do you imagine that to be a problem?

Bert Robbins wrote:
Dan Krueger wrote:

basskisser wrote:

Bert Robbins wrote:

JoeSpareBedroom wrote:

"Bert Robbins" wrote in message
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? wrote:

"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
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"basskisser" wrote in message
ps.com...



When you give me your evidence backing up YOUR statements that:
1. Global warming is "all mother nature (not humans)


It is IMPOSSIBLE for our activities to NOT have an effect on global
warming. Anyone who wasn't picking their nose all through high
school
physics is aware of this fact.


Please quantify the HUMAN effect.


He can't quantify the human effect becasue there is not
informaiton from
observation to forum a consensus on the human effect of the global
warming
equation.


This discussion is not about HOW MUCH effect. It's about a simple
idea: Do
we have any effect greater than none, or not. We have to conduct this
discussion in baby steps, for reasons obvious to everyone except
those who
require the baby steps.


The effect that we, the human race, have upon earth's global warming is
statistically insignificant, when compared to other forces at play in
the whole global warming of planets issue.



Proof? Let's see those university studies that prove the above
sentence.

The fact that you attribute so much effect to humans shows that rather
than having your finger up your nose in high school physics class you
instead had your head up your ass.



Petty and childish name calling and silly insults certainly clears up
the issue, huh?



The KING has spoken. Thanks, Kevin.


Kevin will be back on the newsgroup Monday morning, expect a snide
retort then.


Not this time. I read ahead...

basskisser wrote:

Dan Krueger wrote:

basskisser wrote:


Bert Robbins wrote:


JoeSpareBedroom wrote:


"Bert Robbins" wrote in message
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? wrote:


"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
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"basskisser" wrote in message
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When you give me your evidence backing up YOUR statements that:
1. Global warming is "all mother nature (not humans)

It is IMPOSSIBLE for our activities to NOT have an effect on global
warming. Anyone who wasn't picking their nose all through high school
physics is aware of this fact.

Please quantify the HUMAN effect.

He can't quantify the human effect becasue there is not informaiton from
observation to forum a consensus on the human effect of the global warming
equation.


This discussion is not about HOW MUCH effect. It's about a simple idea: Do
we have any effect greater than none, or not. We have to conduct this
discussion in baby steps, for reasons obvious to everyone except those who
require the baby steps.

The effect that we, the human race, have upon earth's global warming is
statistically insignificant, when compared to other forces at play in
the whole global warming of planets issue.


Proof? Let's see those university studies that prove the above
sentence.


The fact that you attribute so much effect to humans shows that rather
than having your finger up your nose in high school physics class you
instead had your head up your ass.


Petty and childish name calling and silly insults certainly clears up
the issue, huh?



The KING has spoken. Thanks, Kevin.


Care to take the $5000 challenge to prove I'm not Kevin? Put up or shut
up.


I don't care who you are. You emailed me as Kevin Noble so I will
respond to you as Kevin Noble. I've read your lame excuses for
"borrowing" his name.

Anyone could post under an alias for six month, **** a bunch of people
off, and come back as a more reasonable poster and offer a $5000 or even
a $50,000 "challenge".

Bottom line - who cares. YOU identified yourself as Kevin so deal with
with it, Kevin.