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![]() News From the Other Border The flood of American liberals sneaking across the border into Canada has intensified in the past week, sparking calls for increased patrols to stop the illegal immigration. The unflinching arrogance of the Bush Administration is prompting the exodus among liberal citizens who fear they'll soon be required to hunt, pray, and agree with Bill O'Reilly. Canadian border farmers say it's not uncommon to see dozens of sociology professors, animal-rights activists, and Unitarians crossing their fields at night. "I went out to milk the cows the other day, and there was a Hollywood producer huddled in the barn," said Manitoba farmer Red Greenfield, whose acreage borders North Dakota. The producer was cold, exhausted and hungry."He asked me if I could spare a latte and some free-range chicken. When I said I didn't have any, he left. Didn't even get a chance to show him my screenplay." In an effort to stop the illegal aliens, Greenfield erected higher fences, but the liberals scaled them. So he tried installing speakers that blare Rush Limbaugh across the fields. "Not real effective," he said. "The liberals still got through, and Rush annoyed the cows so much they wouldn't give milk" Officials are particularly concerned about smugglers who meet liberals near the Canadian border, pack them into Volvo station wagons, drive them across the border and leave them to fend for themselves. "A lot of these people are not prepared for rugged conditions," an Ontario border patrolman said. "I found one carload without a drop of drinking water. They did have a pleasant little Napa Valley cabernet, though." When liberals are caught, they're sent back across the border, often wailing loudly that they fear retribution from conservatives. Rumors have been circulating about the Bush administration establishing re-education camps in which liberals will be forced to drink domestic beer and watch NASCAR. Liberals have turned to sometimes-ingenious ways of crossing the border. Some have taken to posing as senior citizens on bus trips to buy cheap Canadian prescription drugs. After catching a half-dozen young vegans disguised in powdered wigs, Canadian immigration authorities began stopping buses and quizzing the supposed senior-citizen passengers. "If they can't identify the accordion player on The Lawrence Welk Show, we get suspicious about their age," an official said. Canadian citizens have complained that the illegal immigrants are creating an organic-broccoli shortage and renting all the good Susan Sarandon movies. "I feel sorry for American liberals, but the Canadian economy just can't support them," an Ottawa resident said. "How many art-history majors does one country need?" In an effort to ease tensions between the United States and Canada, Vice President Dick Cheney met with the Canadian ambassador and pledged that the administration would take steps to reassure liberals, a source close to Cheney said. "We're going to have some Peter, Paul & Mary concerts. And we might put some endangered species on postage stamps. The president is determined to reach out." |
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![]() NOYB wrote: News From the Other Border The flood of American liberals sneaking across the border into Canada has intensified in the past week, sparking calls for increased patrols to stop the illegal immigration. The unflinching arrogance of the Bush Administration is prompting the exodus among liberal citizens who fear they'll soon be required to hunt, pray, and agree with Bill O'Reilly. Canadian border farmers say it's not uncommon to see dozens of sociology professors, animal-rights activists, and Unitarians crossing their fieldsat night. "I went out to milk the cows the other day, and there was a Hollywood producer huddled in the barn," said Manitoba farmer Red Greenfield, whose acreage borders North Dakota. The producer was cold, exhausted and hungry."He asked me if I could spare a latte and some free-range chicken. When I said I didn't have any, he left. Didn't even get a chance to show him my screenplay." In an effort to stop the illegal aliens, Greenfield erected higher fences, but the liberals scaled them. So he tried installing speakers that blare Rush Limbaugh across the fields. "Not real effective," he said. "The liberals still got through, and Rush annoyed the cows so much they wouldn't give milk" Officials are particularly concerned about smugglers who meet liberals near the Canadian border, pack them into Volvo station wagons, drive them across the border and leave them to fend for themselves. "A lot of these people are not prepared for rugged conditions," an Ontario border patrolman said. "I found one carload without a drop of drinking water. They did have a pleasant little Napa Valley cabernet, though." When liberals are caught, they're sent back across the border, often wailing loudly that they fear retribution from conservatives. Rumors have been circulating about the Bush administration establishing re-education campsin which liberals will be forced to drink domestic beer and watch NASCAR. Liberals have turned to sometimes-ingenious ways of crossing the border. Some have taken to posing as senior citizens on bus trips to buy cheap Canadian prescription drugs. After catching a half-dozen young vegans disguised in powdered wigs, Canadian immigration authorities began stopping buses and quizzing the supposed senior-citizen passengers. "If they can't identify the accordion player on The Lawrence Welk Show, we get suspicious about their age," an official said. Canadian citizens have complained that the illegal immigrants are creating an organic-broccoli shortage and renting all the good Susan Sarandon movies. "I feel sorry for American liberals, but the Canadian economy just can't support them," an Ottawa resident said. "How many art-history majors does one country need?" In an effort to ease tensions between the United States and Canada, Vice President Dick Cheney met with the Canadian ambassador and pledged that the administration would take steps to reassure liberals, a source close to Cheney said. "We're going to have some Peter, Paul & Mary concerts. And we might put some endangered species on postage stamps. The president is determined to reach out." Oh fer cry sakes, NOYB, that was already old immediately after the last election. Some clinical reading for you: The Cluster B personality disorders of the DSM-IV include the antisocial, borderline, histrionic, and narcissistic personality disorders. While none of these are a perfect description of the typical troll's behavior, they do share features with the troll. First of all is the antisocial personality disorder, also known as psychopathy or sociopathy. Antisocial behavior includes some of the following elements: ï‚· Failure to conform to social norms ï‚· Deceitfulness, as indicated by repeated lying, use of aliases, or conning others for personal profit or pleasure ï‚· Consistent irresponsibility ï‚· Lack of remorse, as indicated by being indifferent to or rationalizing having hurt, mistreated, or stolen from another Narcissism is the ego unbound. The DSM-IV describes the narcissistic personality disorder as, "A pervasive pattern of grandiosity (in fantasy or behavior), need for admiration, and lack of empathy, beginning by early adulthood and present in a variety of contexts...." Some indicative behavior are these: ï‚· Has a grandiose sense of self-importance (e.g., exaggerates achievements and talents, expects to be recognized as superior without commensurate achievements) ï‚· Is preoccupied with fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance, beauty, or ideal love ï‚· Has a sense of entitlement, i.e., unreasonable expectations of especially favorable treatment or automatic compliance with his or her expectations ï‚· Is interpersonally exploitative, i.e., takes advantage of others to achieve his or her own ends ï‚· Lacks empathy: is unwilling to recognize or identify with the feelings and needs of others ï‚· Shows arrogant, haughty behaviors or attitudes Some elements of the histrionic personality disorder, a disordered personality exhibiting an excessive need for attention, also manifest themselves in trolls: ï‚· Is uncomfortable in situations in which he or she is not the center of attention ï‚· Interaction with others is often characterized by provocative behavior ï‚· Has a style of speech that is excessively impressionistic and lacking in detail What the Cluster B personality disorders have in common is manipulative behavior, a lack of empathy, and self-centeredness. What separates trolls from typical people with Cluster B personality disorders is a form of social aversion or fear of identification that prevents them from acting out their self-centered behavior in less anonymous places. The result is that these needs are satisfied on the Internet. Here are my criteria for the Internet Troll Personality Disorder: The Internet Troll Personality Disorder is characterized by attention-seeking and disruptive behavior in anonymous, delocalized places of socializing. It is indicated by the following traits: 1. A tendency to make provocative comments to invoke emotional responses in others 2. A lack of connection to the community being trolled; i.e., will leave if desired response is not invoked ("Do not feed the trolls!") 3. A dissatisfaction with one's life and a cynical attitude towards things in general 4. A tendency to challenge the rules and authorities of a community 5. A preference to exhibit these behaviors only in places where one's true identity is unknown Disclaimer: It takes a qualified professional to diagnose anyone with a personality disorder. Source: http://www.behavenet.com/capsules/di...sification.htm |
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![]() "Chuck Gould" wrote in message oups.com... Oh fer cry sakes, NOYB, that was already old immediately after the last election. Some clinical reading for you: The Cluster B personality disorders of the DSM-IV include the... Oh fer cry sakes, Chuck, that was already old immediately after I posted it for Harry several years ago. If you're going to criticize anybody for posting redundancies, then you might want to first start by looking within. And get a sense of humor. |
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![]() NOYB wrote: "Chuck Gould" wrote in message oups.com... Oh fer cry sakes, NOYB, that was already old immediately after the last election. Some clinical reading for you: The Cluster B personality disorders of the DSM-IV include the... Oh fer cry sakes, Chuck, that was already old immediately after I posted it for Harry several years ago. If you're going to criticize anybody for posting redundancies, then you might want to first start by looking within. And get a sense of humor. I don't criticize redundancies, I criticize trolls. If you feel a need to send private notes to Harry, use email. Now that most of the trolling has abated in this group, the handful of guys still doing much of it are glaringly obvious, aren't they? No need to answer the following question, but aside from being trolls, what do most of the few remaining trolls have in common? (I have drawn a conclusion, but won't express it here due to the risk of appearing to troll as well). |
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On 26 Jun 2006 09:38:00 -0700, "Chuck Gould"
wrote: Wow! [No further comment.] Some clinical reading for you: The Cluster B personality disorders of the DSM-IV include the antisocial, borderline, histrionic, and narcissistic personality disorders. While none of these are a perfect description of the typical troll's behavior, they do share features with the troll. First of all is the antisocial personality disorder, also known as psychopathy or sociopathy. Antisocial behavior includes some of the following elements: ? Failure to conform to social norms ? Deceitfulness, as indicated by repeated lying, use of aliases, or conning others for personal profit or pleasure ? Consistent irresponsibility ? Lack of remorse, as indicated by being indifferent to or rationalizing having hurt, mistreated, or stolen from another Narcissism is the ego unbound. The DSM-IV describes the narcissistic personality disorder as, "A pervasive pattern of grandiosity (in fantasy or behavior), need for admiration, and lack of empathy, beginning by early adulthood and present in a variety of contexts...." Some indicative behavior are these: ? Has a grandiose sense of self-importance (e.g., exaggerates achievements and talents, expects to be recognized as superior without commensurate achievements) ? Is preoccupied with fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance, beauty, or ideal love ? Has a sense of entitlement, i.e., unreasonable expectations of especially favorable treatment or automatic compliance with his or her expectations ? Is interpersonally exploitative, i.e., takes advantage of others to achieve his or her own ends ? Lacks empathy: is unwilling to recognize or identify with the feelings and needs of others ? Shows arrogant, haughty behaviors or attitudes Some elements of the histrionic personality disorder, a disordered personality exhibiting an excessive need for attention, also manifest themselves in trolls: ? Is uncomfortable in situations in which he or she is not the center of attention ? Interaction with others is often characterized by provocative behavior ? Has a style of speech that is excessively impressionistic and lacking in detail What the Cluster B personality disorders have in common is manipulative behavior, a lack of empathy, and self-centeredness. What separates trolls from typical people with Cluster B personality disorders is a form of social aversion or fear of identification that prevents them from acting out their self-centered behavior in less anonymous places. The result is that these needs are satisfied on the Internet. Here are my criteria for the Internet Troll Personality Disorder: The Internet Troll Personality Disorder is characterized by attention-seeking and disruptive behavior in anonymous, delocalized places of socializing. It is indicated by the following traits: 1. A tendency to make provocative comments to invoke emotional responses in others 2. A lack of connection to the community being trolled; i.e., will leave if desired response is not invoked ("Do not feed the trolls!") 3. A dissatisfaction with one's life and a cynical attitude towards things in general 4. A tendency to challenge the rules and authorities of a community 5. A preference to exhibit these behaviors only in places where one's true identity is unknown Disclaimer: It takes a qualified professional to diagnose anyone with a personality disorder. Source: http://www.behavenet.com/capsules/di...sification.htm -- John H ****************************************** ***** Have a Spectacular Day! ***** ****************************************** |
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On Mon, 26 Jun 2006 17:20:21 GMT, "NOYB" wrote:
"Chuck Gould" wrote in message roups.com... Oh fer cry sakes, NOYB, that was already old immediately after the last election. Some clinical reading for you: The Cluster B personality disorders of the DSM-IV include the... Oh fer cry sakes, Chuck, that was already old immediately after I posted it for Harry several years ago. If you're going to criticize anybody for posting redundancies, then you might want to first start by looking within. And get a sense of humor. Redundant anti-trolling posts are good things. -- John H ****************************************** ***** Have a Spectacular Day! ***** ****************************************** |
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![]() "Harry Krause" wrote in message . .. JohnH wrote: On Mon, 26 Jun 2006 17:20:21 GMT, "NOYB" wrote: "Chuck Gould" wrote in message oups.com... You two netcops should get a room and entertain yourselves with your silliness. Been boating yet this year, John? Do you think your wife could help poor Chuck? I think he's on the verge of a nervous breakdown. Jim |
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On 26 Jun 2006 09:38:00 -0700, "Chuck Gould"
wrote: Disclaimer: It takes a qualified professional to diagnose anyone with a personality disorder. Source: http://www.behavenet.com/capsules/di...sification.htm ================================= NOYBy will try to get his teeth into it... |
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Harry Krause wrote:
Wayne.B wrote: On 26 Jun 2006 09:38:00 -0700, "Chuck Gould" wrote: Disclaimer: It takes a qualified professional to diagnose anyone with a personality disorder. Source: http://www.behavenet.com/capsules/di...sification.htm ================================= NOYBy will try to get his teeth into it... And Chuck will write a review if he can get a free ride or ad... :-} Of course he will, Chuck writes for a boating magazine and that is what they do. If it wasn't for those ads, we would not have any boating magazines. Chucks articles about the boats he sees are as good as any I have read, and when he reposts them in rec.boats, they always stir up great on topic posts. -- Reggie That's my story and I am sticking to it! |
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On Mon, 26 Jun 2006 16:31:40 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote: JohnH wrote: On Mon, 26 Jun 2006 17:20:21 GMT, "NOYB" wrote: "Chuck Gould" wrote in message oups.com... You two netcops should get a room and entertain yourselves with your silliness. Been boating yet this year, John? And *you* should read Chuck's post very carefully. Yes. -- John H ****************************************** ***** Have a Spectacular Day! ***** ****************************************** |
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