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JimH wrote:
First show me folks who work 90 hours/week for only an annual income of
$25,000.

Even Micky D's pays more than the minimum wage. My son will be making
$10.50/hour plus painting houses this summer, plus another $1.50 for
every hour he worked if he does not miss work (except for vacations).

Your son lives at home and eats out of the family fridge. Big
difference.

Actually no. The point I made is that is that even a high school student
can find a job making far more than minimum wage.

Even if you charge him a token amount for room and board,
that doesn't compare to trying to make it on his own with a $420/week
gross income and paying the actual expenses.

I never brought up anything about trying to make a living on minimum wage
Chuck. I agree, it has to be tough. But that was a decision those folks
living at those wages made at some point in their teenage years.

Skipping out of school. Not being dependable at work. Showing up late or
not showing up at all. Settling for jobs that require no commitment.
Going from minimum wage job to job to job because of all that.

*Our* fault?

The minimum wage was established for entry level jobs......no skills
needed....no education needed. Just show up and work and over time you get
raises. Perhaps you are motivated enough to work hard towards the job of
supervisor, then store manager.

It is *your* choice which path *you* choose to take.


Your son is lucky he has
his family to fall back on, and lucky that he doesn't have to work for
$8-9 an hour like many others do in this WalMart economic model.

My son found this job on his own, as did my daughter. Both are making over
$10/hour and neither has yet been out fending for themselves.

The point being is that no one *has to* work for minimum wage other than the
folks who have no education and/or cannot hold a job because they are lazy.
And even if they did they can still work to better themselves with continued
education......hard work and discipline required though. ;-)

It is all about choice and taking responsibility for the directions in life
you choose. And it is possible to recover from the bad
choices...........but that requires commitment and hard work. We are now
back to my original point. ;-)

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JimH wrote:
First show me folks who work 90 hours/week for only an annual income
of
$25,000.

Even Micky D's pays more than the minimum wage. My son will be making
$10.50/hour plus painting houses this summer, plus another $1.50 for
every hour he worked if he does not miss work (except for vacations).

Your son lives at home and eats out of the family fridge. Big
difference.

Actually no. The point I made is that is that even a high school
student
can find a job making far more than minimum wage.

Even if you charge him a token amount for room and board,
that doesn't compare to trying to make it on his own with a $420/week
gross income and paying the actual expenses.

I never brought up anything about trying to make a living on minimum
wage
Chuck. I agree, it has to be tough. But that was a decision those
folks
living at those wages made at some point in their teenage years.

Skipping out of school. Not being dependable at work. Showing up late
or
not showing up at all. Settling for jobs that require no commitment.
Going from minimum wage job to job to job because of all that.

*Our* fault?

The minimum wage was established for entry level jobs......no skills
needed....no education needed. Just show up and work and over time you
get
raises. Perhaps you are motivated enough to work hard towards the job
of
supervisor, then store manager.

It is *your* choice which path *you* choose to take.


Your son is lucky he has
his family to fall back on, and lucky that he doesn't have to work for
$8-9 an hour like many others do in this WalMart economic model.

My son found this job on his own, as did my daughter. Both are making
over
$10/hour and neither has yet been out fending for themselves.

The point being is that no one *has to* work for minimum wage other than
the
folks who have no education and/or cannot hold a job because they are
lazy.
And even if they did they can still work to better themselves with
continued
education......hard work and discipline required though. ;-)

It is all about choice and taking responsibility for the directions in
life
you choose. And it is possible to recover from the bad
choices...........but that requires commitment and hard work. We are
now
back to my original point. ;-)



The fact is that the minimum wage is an artificial bar created by the
guvmint that disrupts the economic basic of supply and demand. It is a prop
for the weak minded and the unions.

P. Fritz wrote:



The fact is that the minimum wage is an artificial bar created by the
guvmint that disrupts the economic basic of supply and demand. It is a prop
for the weak minded and the unions.



Well, well. Look who comes slithering out from under his rock.

P. Fritz wrote:

The fact is that the minimum wage is an artificial bar created by the
guvmint that disrupts the economic basic of supply and demand. It is a prop
for the weak minded and the unions.


I'm sure wages would be a lot higher for everybody if employer's
weren't limited to paying only the minimum wage. I assume you support
the "guest worker" program? There has to be an almost unlimited demand
for people desperate enough to work for $2-3 an hour. Should we condone
paying people so little that they have no realistic alternative to
subsist except public assistance and/or crime, just to allow the law of
"supply and demand" to operate? If you hate the minimum wage, you've
gotta be thrilled with illegal immigration.