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"JohnH" wrote in message
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Oh woe is me.

That's for all y'all saying the economy is so bad. I wonder who's
buying
all these middle class homes? I wonder who's buying all the cars? I
wonder
who's getting all the jobs and promotions?
.

"Whaddaya mean, run out of buffalo? Whoever heard of such an idea? I
just saw a herd a couple of days ago. Must still be plenty left." Wm
Cody, 1891 (not, just for purposes of illustration)

I never said the economy was bad. What I did say was that more people
than ever before are able to buy $1mm boats, and that more people than
ever before are working without as basic a benefit as health insurance
and cannot individually afford the premiums to pay for it with after
tax dollars. Is either one of those statements untrue? No, both are
correct.


Business has never been better for most every industrial customer I see.

It has been going like an old chain saw over the past few years for
them..............revs up........sputters..........revs
up...........sputters.........

It has now been purring consistently for enough months for these plants to
be hiring new employees and putting on additional shifts. They have also
been ordering new durable goods (machinery) and expanding their buildings.
You don't do that with an uncertain economy or one which 'sputters'. ;-)

There will always be the uneducated and the unmotivated not willing to put
in the time and hard work to make it happen for them. No President will be
able to change that.

JimH wrote:
wrote in message
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"JohnH" wrote in message
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Oh woe is me.

That's for all y'all saying the economy is so bad. I wonder who's
buying
all these middle class homes? I wonder who's buying all the cars? I
wonder
who's getting all the jobs and promotions?
.

"Whaddaya mean, run out of buffalo? Whoever heard of such an idea? I
just saw a herd a couple of days ago. Must still be plenty left." Wm
Cody, 1891 (not, just for purposes of illustration)

I never said the economy was bad. What I did say was that more people
than ever before are able to buy $1mm boats, and that more people than
ever before are working without as basic a benefit as health insurance
and cannot individually afford the premiums to pay for it with after
tax dollars. Is either one of those statements untrue? No, both are
correct.


Business has never been better for most every industrial customer I see.

It has been going like an old chain saw over the past few years for
them..............revs up........sputters..........revs
up...........sputters.........

It has now been purring consistently for enough months for these plants to
be hiring new employees and putting on additional shifts. They have also
been ordering new durable goods (machinery) and expanding their buildings.
You don't do that with an uncertain economy or one which 'sputters'. ;-)

There will always be the uneducated and the unmotivated not willing to put
in the time and hard work to make it happen for them. No President will be
able to change that.


The change in the economic landscape transcends politics. If the D's
were in office right now, or if someother party not even invented yet
had the WH, things wouldn't be much different.

One reason that so many of the new boats being introduced are 35 feet
and larger and $350,000 and up is that seems to be where the market is.
Wally Lunchbucket, with his job at the widget plant paying enough to
drive two fairly new cars, pay off the mortgage on a cozy little tract
house, help out with the kids's college bills, and still afford a
decent boat for cruising or skiing is an endangered species- and for
reasons that have a lot to do with global economics, computerization,
and other issues that are not in the least bit political.

wrote:

"JohnH" wrote in message
. ..


Oh woe is me.

That's for all y'all saying the economy is so bad. I wonder who's buying
all these middle class homes? I wonder who's buying all the cars? I wonder
who's getting all the jobs and promotions?

.

"Whaddaya mean, run out of buffalo? Whoever heard of such an idea? I
just saw a herd a couple of days ago. Must still be plenty left." Wm
Cody, 1891 (not, just for purposes of illustration)

I never said the economy was bad. What I did say was that more people
than ever before are able to buy $1mm boats, and that more people than
ever before are working without as basic a benefit as health insurance
and cannot individually afford the premiums to pay for it with after
tax dollars. Is either one of those statements untrue? No, both are
correct.


Chuck...
Did you see the latest episode of Smart Traveller/pacific Rim with Rudy
Maxa on PBS?
http://www.kcts.org/inside/news/release_189.htm

Seattle looked beautiful... Sunny, sparkling...not a drop of rain or
fog. Lots of interesting sites and activities. next time i get out
west I'm gonna drop in for a visit.
Tonight I believe it's Vancouver &7 Victoria

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JimH wrote:
wrote in message
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"JohnH" wrote in message
...

Oh woe is me.

That's for all y'all saying the economy is so bad. I wonder who's
buying
all these middle class homes? I wonder who's buying all the cars? I
wonder
who's getting all the jobs and promotions?
.

"Whaddaya mean, run out of buffalo? Whoever heard of such an idea? I
just saw a herd a couple of days ago. Must still be plenty left." Wm
Cody, 1891 (not, just for purposes of illustration)

I never said the economy was bad. What I did say was that more people
than ever before are able to buy $1mm boats, and that more people than
ever before are working without as basic a benefit as health insurance
and cannot individually afford the premiums to pay for it with after
tax dollars. Is either one of those statements untrue? No, both are
correct.


Business has never been better for most every industrial customer I see.

It has been going like an old chain saw over the past few years for
them..............revs up........sputters..........revs
up...........sputters.........

It has now been purring consistently for enough months for these plants
to
be hiring new employees and putting on additional shifts. They have also
been ordering new durable goods (machinery) and expanding their
buildings.
You don't do that with an uncertain economy or one which 'sputters'. ;-)

There will always be the uneducated and the unmotivated not willing to
put
in the time and hard work to make it happen for them. No President will
be
able to change that.


The change in the economic landscape transcends politics. If the D's
were in office right now, or if someother party not even invented yet
had the WH, things wouldn't be much different.


So you gave Clinton credit when the economy was good during a short time
when he was in office............... and now the story is different? ;-)

Is that how it goes?



One reason that so many of the new boats being introduced are 35 feet
and larger and $350,000 and up is that seems to be where the market is.
Wally Lunchbucket, with his job at the widget plant paying enough to
drive two fairly new cars, pay off the mortgage on a cozy little tract
house, help out with the kids's college bills, and still afford a
decent boat for cruising or skiing is an endangered species- and for
reasons that have a lot to do with global economics, computerization,
and other issues that are not in the least bit political.


Yet a previous post of yours showing statistics on Q1 2006 vs Q1 2005 boat
sales in your area showed that all but the 18 feet and under new boats were
selling good. Go figure. ;-)

On Mon, 01 May 2006 19:29:20 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:

"JohnH" wrote in message
.. .

Oh woe is me.

That's for all y'all saying the economy is so bad. I wonder who's buying
all these middle class homes? I wonder who's buying all the cars? I wonder
who's getting all the jobs and promotions?

What tripe!


Lots of people SELLING middle class homes, too. Without further information
about this, any conclusions are vapor.


Gosh, would that include all the *negative* conclusions you folks are
reaching?
--
'Til next time,

John H

******************************************
***** Have a Spectacular Day! *****
******************************************

Don White wrote:

Chuck...
Did you see the latest episode of Smart Traveller/pacific Rim with Rudy
Maxa on PBS?
http://www.kcts.org/inside/news/release_189.htm

Seattle looked beautiful... Sunny, sparkling...not a drop of rain or
fog.

Photoshop. Every 4-5 years when we get more than one sunny day in row,
The Chamber of Commerce shoots miles and miles of film and then gives
it away to anybody hoping to make a movie about Seattle. :-)

Please don't blow a hole in our best defense with scandalous rumors
about good weather.

On Mon, 1 May 2006 19:13:35 -0400, " JimH" jimh_osudad@yahooDOT
comREMOVETHIS wrote:

So you gave Clinton credit when the economy was good

Where did Chuck give Clinton credit? Anything to back up the claim?

during a short time
when he was in office

As presidents go, eight years is not a short time.

.............. and now the story is different? ;-)

Actually, the story is different now. The rich are getting richer,
the poor are getting poorer. There were tax breaks specifically
targeting the rich and they have had the desired effect. Our currency
is quickly being devalued and that does adversely effect the lower
class to a greater degree.

bb

"NOYB" wrote in message
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"basskisser" wrote in message
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NOYB wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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NOYB wrote:
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A handful of boats arent representative of a nation of people.


It's nothing more than an indicator. But when paired with all of
the
other indicators, its lends credibility to the notion that our
economy
is
firing on all cylinders.




For the wealthy. That's it. By this time next year, you'll be
bartering
dental services for boat gasoline.

I'm already doing that. One crown no longer equals a tank of of gas.
Now
it takes one crown, plus one build-up beneath the crown, plus a
two-surface
anterior resin. If it's a posterior tooth, $25 goes into my pocket.
Of
course, I could always take an extra radiograph to cover bait costs
too.
;-)

Ah, the used car saleman of the medical field.


*New* car salesmen. All of our crowns are new...and the full mouth
rehabilitations cost more than *used* cars.

How many people do you keep employed? vs, say, some scut work draftsman
in Atlanta?

NOYB wrote:
"basskisser" wrote in message
oups.com...

NOYB wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
NOYB wrote:
wrote in message
ups.com...
A handful of boats arent representative of a nation of people.


It's nothing more than an indicator. But when paired with all of the
other indicators, its lends credibility to the notion that our economy
is
firing on all cylinders.




For the wealthy. That's it. By this time next year, you'll be bartering
dental services for boat gasoline.

I'm already doing that. One crown no longer equals a tank of of gas.
Now
it takes one crown, plus one build-up beneath the crown, plus a
two-surface
anterior resin. If it's a posterior tooth, $25 goes into my pocket. Of
course, I could always take an extra radiograph to cover bait costs too.
;-)

Ah, the used car saleman of the medical field.


*New* car salesmen. All of our crowns are new...and the full mouth
rehabilitations cost more than *used* cars.

You just aren't quite swift enough to get it, are you?

"basskisser" wrote in message
oups.com...

NOYB wrote:
"basskisser" wrote in message
oups.com...

NOYB wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
NOYB wrote:
wrote in message
ups.com...
A handful of boats arent representative of a nation of people.


It's nothing more than an indicator. But when paired with all of
the
other indicators, its lends credibility to the notion that our
economy
is
firing on all cylinders.




For the wealthy. That's it. By this time next year, you'll be
bartering
dental services for boat gasoline.

I'm already doing that. One crown no longer equals a tank of of gas.
Now
it takes one crown, plus one build-up beneath the crown, plus a
two-surface
anterior resin. If it's a posterior tooth, $25 goes into my pocket.
Of
course, I could always take an extra radiograph to cover bait costs
too.
;-)

Ah, the used car saleman of the medical field.


*New* car salesmen. All of our crowns are new...and the full mouth
rehabilitations cost more than *used* cars.

You just aren't quite swift enough to get it, are you?

Au contraire. I "get it" just fine. But your statement was neither witty
nor accurate...and deserved a stupid post in response.