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Harry Krause wrote:
RCE wrote:
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Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:

For a former "reporter" Harry, you seem to have a strange way of
working a story.

From Friday's NYT - buried, but it was there. Please note the first
and last paragraphs.

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"The Cheneys reported adjusted gross income of nearly $8.82 million,
a
number largely padded with income they received by exercising stock
options that had been set aside in 2001 for charity.

The Cheneys donated about $6.87 million to charity from the stock
options and royalties earned on Mrs. Cheney's books: "America: A
Patriotic Primer," "A is for Abigail: An Almanac of Amazing American
Women" and "When Washington Crossed the Delawa A Wintertime Story
for Young Patriots."

Recipients of their charitable donations included: George Washington
University Medical Faculty Associates for the benefit of the
Cardiothoracic Institute, the University of Wyoming Foundation and
Capital Partners for Education, to benefit low-income high school
students in the Washington area.

After subtracting the charitable contributions, the Cheneys' income
was $1.95 million on which they owed $529,636 in taxes, according to
a
statement released by the vice president's office.

Since the Cheneys paid $2.46 million in withholding and estimated
taxes over the year, they were entitled to a refund of about $1.93"
million."

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I don't like Cheney either, but fair is fair.

I didn't say it wasn't legal. Good tax planning obviates the need for
substantial refunds. Paying that kind of money in withholding only to
get
most of it back is...not too bright.

Donating $6.87 million to charity in one year kinda screws up your tax
planning.

RCE


You think it was an unplanned donation?

It wouldn't matter. Have you ever exercised stock options? Depending
on the size, tax withholding is often required on the transaction,
particularly if it was considered cashing out, even if he donated the
cash proceeds from the transaction to charity.


Very true, and if they do not think you still paid enough withholding, they
get you for an underpayment penalty.
Does not matter that you paid more than the year before, even a lot more.

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Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 17 Apr 2006 06:20:10 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:

...I don't get much of one, and neither do most people who do
proper
tax planning, but I guess that excludes Dick Cheney, who
reportedly
is getting a $1.9 million refund.

I'm sure it is perfectly legal, but, sheesh, talk about a guy who
knows and cares nothing about even the semblance of appearances.
For a former "reporter" Harry, you seem to have a strange way of
working a story.

From Friday's NYT - buried, but it was there. Please note the
first
and last paragraphs.

--------------------------------

"The Cheneys reported adjusted gross income of nearly $8.82
million,
a
number largely padded with income they received by exercising
stock
options that had been set aside in 2001 for charity.

The Cheneys donated about $6.87 million to charity from the stock
options and royalties earned on Mrs. Cheney's books: "America: A
Patriotic Primer," "A is for Abigail: An Almanac of Amazing
American
Women" and "When Washington Crossed the Delawa A Wintertime
Story
for Young Patriots."

Recipients of their charitable donations included: George
Washington
University Medical Faculty Associates for the benefit of the
Cardiothoracic Institute, the University of Wyoming Foundation and
Capital Partners for Education, to benefit low-income high school
students in the Washington area.

After subtracting the charitable contributions, the Cheneys'
income
was $1.95 million on which they owed $529,636 in taxes, according
to
a
statement released by the vice president's office.

Since the Cheneys paid $2.46 million in withholding and estimated
taxes over the year, they were entitled to a refund of about
$1.93"
million."

------------------------

I don't like Cheney either, but fair is fair.
I didn't say it wasn't legal. Good tax planning obviates the need
for
substantial refunds. Paying that kind of money in withholding only
to
get most of it back is...not too bright.
Donating $6.87 million to charity in one year kinda screws up your
tax
planning.

RCE
You think it was an unplanned donation?

No, but the mechanics of a charity donation may not fit with normal
quarterly reporting, which I assume he is required to do. According
to
the article referenced by Tom, a bulk of it was based on stock options
that were set aside for charity. At a lesser scale, many of us have
to
make last minute contributions to retirement plans, etc. to even out
the
tax hit at the end of the year. In any event, he paid his share,
crooked
as you may think he is.

RCE


Once again, I am not questioning Cheney's tax returns. After all, this
country has no history of a Republican vice president in tax trouble.

My question was about the appearance of receiving a nearly $2 million
refund.



Did he deduct for old underware donated to charity?


So the guvmint held his money interest free for all that time, and harry
has a problem with him getting it back.........how typically ignorant of
him.