Anybody see the USA Today fuel price predictions?
 

Driving home this evening, I listened to a local talk radio station
discussing the probable fuel prices during the next few months. They
kept referring to an article in USA Today that projected $4/gallon gas
prices (would probably run $5 at a fuel dock).

Anybody actually see this story and know the details?

I can't find it online- does anybody have a website address to check?

Actually it is already almost 5 dollars a gallon at a marina here in S/E Michigan. $4.969 to be exact.

Anybody see the USA Today fuel price predictions?
 

Anybody see the USA Today fuel price predictions?
 

"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 13 Apr 2006 06:37:22 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:

Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:
On 12 Apr 2006 21:59:25 -0700, "
wrote:

Driving home this evening, I listened to a local talk radio station
discussing the probable fuel prices during the next few months. They
kept referring to an article in USA Today that projected $4/gallon gas
prices (would probably run $5 at a fuel dock).

Anybody actually see this story and know the details?

I can't find it online- does anybody have a website address to check?

Self-fulfilling prophecy. This is a market driven by speculation and
insider information.

I saw the article yesterday and just put it away. Watching CNBC
yesterday, you had prices going from $2.62 to $6 a gallon.

My guess is it will hit a high around $2,90 and settle back once the
refineries come back on-line.

Hugo Chavez says $50 a barrel for oil is sufficient.

Unfortunately, Hugo Chaves doesn't control the price of oil. I know
he likes to think he does, but he doesn't.

At what price does harvesting oil shale and oil sand become economical.
That is the price OPEC will not want oil to reach.

Anybody see the USA Today fuel price predictions?
 

RGrew176 wrote:
Actually it is already almost 5 dollars a gallon at a marina here in S/E
Michigan. $4.969 to be exact.


--
RGrew176

That's discouraging news. Even though the price of fuel is a relatively
minor consideration for many boaters- (as in if you're making $24,000 a
year in boat payments does it really matter if your summer fuel bill
goes from $2500 up to $3500?)- these unusually high fuel prices tend to
make people think twice or thrice about using their boats.

I don't think it's a situation of supply and demand at all. It's a case
of "we got you by the short hairs, we know you'll pay at least as much
as you did last year, and we need another round of record-breaking
profits to crank our share values up to the next level."

Gas station prices for 92-octane broke $3 this week at a lot of local
stations. It's only the middle of April, and they will proably keep
going up through Labor Day (simply because they can). At the risk of
wandering over near the OT border- perhaps there will be some political
pressure on the oil companies to keep prices in check, at least
slightly, this year. Dropping them in October may be too late to be of
much PR benefit to the party hoping to maintain a congressional
majority. There's no direct connection between who's in office and oil
prices, but John Q Public is more likely to vote "for change" if he's
feeling unhappy, and while a lot of national and international issues
are pretty abstract it doesn't take a rocket scientist to notice that
it's costing $75-$100 to fill up the F250. It will be interesting to
see how this plays out.

I'm glad I've got two nearly full tanks. I'd top off right now if I
wasn't still hauled out for refit, as any fuel bought weeks from now is
surely going to be a lot more expensive.

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" wrote
Dropping them in October may be too late to be of
much PR benefit to the party hoping to maintain a congressional
majority. There's no direct connection between who's in office and oil
prices, but John Q Public is more likely to vote "for change" if he's
feeling unhappy


There's a direct connection if the politician in question is
the President and he cuts a deal with the Saudis to drop oil
prices before the election.


Fred Dehl wrote:
But it's the Democrats and their envirolunatics who are responsible for
the increased prices during summer.

That's right Fred. Democrats are to blame for everything bad
in the whole world, including warm beer, your neighbors
barking dog, and the awful sound of fingernails on a blackboard.

DSK

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"Fred Dehl" wrote in message
...
" wrote in
oups.com:

Dropping them in October may be too late to be of
much PR benefit to the party hoping to maintain a congressional
majority. There's no direct connection between who's in office and oil
prices, but John Q Public is more likely to vote "for change" if he's
feeling unhappy

But it's the Democrats and their envirolunatics who are responsible for
the increased prices during summer.

Rest assured that if the oil companies were bothered by the seasonal
reformulation arrangements, they would've purchased the appropriate federal
officials and arranged for the rules to be changed. You may have noticed
logging companies doing similar things with the department of the interior,
and chemical manufacturers doing the same with the EPA.

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"Fred Dehl" wrote in message
...
"Doug Kanter" wrote in
:

But it's the Democrats and their envirolunatics who are responsible
for the increased prices during summer.

Rest assured that if the oil companies were bothered by the seasonal
reformulation arrangements, they would've purchased the appropriate
federal officials and arranged for the rules to be changed.

More flatulence from the ****scab who can't write one sentence.

Which sentence was I unable to write, Mr Delusional? And, go ahead and
refute anything I said in this paragraph, repeated below because you have a
tendency to get lost:

"Rest assured that if the oil companies were bothered by the seasonal
reformulation arrangements, they would've purchased the appropriate
federal officials and arranged for the rules to be changed."

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"Fred Dehl" wrote in message
...


Doug Kanter wrote:
Which sentence was I unable to write, Mr Delusional?

Don't Fred's posts make you laugh? He's really funny.

I suspect he has a very unhappy life, but that's his tough
luck. He's still funny.

DSK

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"Harry Krause" wrote in message
. ..
Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:
On Thu, 13 Apr 2006 06:37:22 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:

Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:
On 12 Apr 2006 21:59:25 -0700, "
wrote:

Driving home this evening, I listened to a local talk radio station
discussing the probable fuel prices during the next few months. They
kept referring to an article in USA Today that projected $4/gallon gas
prices (would probably run $5 at a fuel dock).

Anybody actually see this story and know the details?

I can't find it online- does anybody have a website address to check?
Self-fulfilling prophecy. This is a market driven by speculation and
insider information.

I saw the article yesterday and just put it away. Watching CNBC
yesterday, you had prices going from $2.62 to $6 a gallon.

My guess is it will hit a high around $2,90 and settle back once the
refineries come back on-line.
Hugo Chavez says $50 a barrel for oil is sufficient.

Unfortunately, Hugo Chaves doesn't control the price of oil. I know
he likes to think he does, but he doesn't.


He's a cool dude.

He'll be a cold dude soon. Ice cold.

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"DSK" wrote in message
...
"Fred Dehl" wrote in message
...


Doug Kanter wrote:
Which sentence was I unable to write, Mr Delusional?

Don't Fred's posts make you laugh? He's really funny.

I suspect he has a very unhappy life, but that's his tough luck. He's
still funny.

DSK


If he's like this when he's talking to someone face to face, it's amazing
he's lived this long. Most people I know would've put him in a wheelchair
for life by this point.

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That's discouraging news. Even though the price of fuel is a relatively
minor consideration for many boaters- (as in if you're making $24,000 a
year in boat payments does it really matter if your summer fuel bill
goes from $2500 up to $3500?)- these unusually high fuel prices tend to
make people think twice or thrice about using their boats.


I hope that it makes more of the less curteous go-fast &
show-off boaters use their boats less.


NOYB wrote:
I put on 200 hours/year. If half of that is cruising, then my burn rate is
23 gph. The other half is trolling/slow speed, burning 6 gph.

That's 2900 gallons/year.

2900 gallons*$3/gallon=$8700/year

2900 gallons*$5/gallon=$14,500/year

That's a wee-bit more than your example, eh Chuck?

Anybody want to buy a Grady White 30' Marlin? :-(


You might consider repowering for better efficiency, but
then you'd have to use the boat more to justify the expense
of repower. Speed costs. A lot!

For slow boats, fuel cost is negligible, but you don't cover
as much ground. Our cost to cruise might go up from
$0.50/mile to $.065/mile (in the absence of affecting wind &
current of course). Since we're planning a Great Loop which
is approx 6,000 miles, that will still be a big expense
item. Still way less than fishing offshore from a fast 30
foot sportfisher though.

Fair Skies
Doug King

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"Jeff Rigby" wrote in message
...

"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 13 Apr 2006 06:37:22 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:

Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:
On 12 Apr 2006 21:59:25 -0700, "
wrote:

Driving home this evening, I listened to a local talk radio station
discussing the probable fuel prices during the next few months. They
kept referring to an article in USA Today that projected $4/gallon gas
prices (would probably run $5 at a fuel dock).

Anybody actually see this story and know the details?

I can't find it online- does anybody have a website address to check?

Self-fulfilling prophecy. This is a market driven by speculation and
insider information.

I saw the article yesterday and just put it away. Watching CNBC
yesterday, you had prices going from $2.62 to $6 a gallon.

My guess is it will hit a high around $2,90 and settle back once the
refineries come back on-line.

Hugo Chavez says $50 a barrel for oil is sufficient.

Unfortunately, Hugo Chaves doesn't control the price of oil. I know
he likes to think he does, but he doesn't.

At what price does harvesting oil shale and oil sand become economical.
That is the price OPEC will not want oil to reach.


You have a good point. I recently saw a documentary on shale oil and if I
recall correctly, the price is right around 50 dollars per barrel to justify
the cost. Developers must be waiting for a long term stabilization of oil
prices before having at it.

RCE

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"DSK" wrote in message
...
That's discouraging news. Even though the price of fuel is a relatively
minor consideration for many boaters- (as in if you're making $24,000 a
year in boat payments does it really matter if your summer fuel bill
goes from $2500 up to $3500?)- these unusually high fuel prices tend to
make people think twice or thrice about using their boats.


I hope that it makes more of the less curteous go-fast & show-off boaters
use their boats less.


NOYB wrote:
I put on 200 hours/year. If half of that is cruising, then my burn rate
is 23 gph. The other half is trolling/slow speed, burning 6 gph.

That's 2900 gallons/year.

2900 gallons*$3/gallon=$8700/year

2900 gallons*$5/gallon=$14,500/year

That's a wee-bit more than your example, eh Chuck?

Anybody want to buy a Grady White 30' Marlin? :-(


You might consider repowering for better efficiency, but then you'd have
to use the boat more to justify the expense of repower. Speed costs. A
lot!

A repower to four-strokes would drop the fuel burn to about 18.5 gph at
cruise, and 3 gph out troll/idle.

That means 2150 gallons/year...or 750 gallons/year savings.

At $3/gallon, it's a $2250 savings

At $5/gallon, it's a $3750 savings.

(I'd save a little in oil burn too)

But it would take anywhere from 8.5 to 14 years before I saved enough to pay
for the $32,000 worth of new engines that I'd need to buy.





For slow boats, fuel cost is negligible, but you don't cover as much
ground. Our cost to cruise might go up from $0.50/mile to $.065/mile (in
the absence of affecting wind & current of course). Since we're planning a
Great Loop which is approx 6,000 miles, that will still be a big expense
item. Still way less than fishing offshore from a fast 30 foot sportfisher
though.

My cost/mile runs about $2.75/mile. But I have more money than time at this
point in my life. When I retire, the opposite will be true...and I'll get a
diesel-powered displacement or semi-displacement hull.

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"DSK" wrote in message
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"Fred Dehl" wrote in message
...


Doug Kanter wrote:
Which sentence was I unable to write, Mr Delusional?

Don't Fred's posts make you laugh? He's really funny.

I suspect he has a very unhappy life, but that's his tough luck. He's
still funny.

DSK


He's not funny. As a supposed representative of the human race, he's
alarming.

RCE

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"Fred Dehl" wrote in message
...


Fred, I have no idea how old you are but you present as a 17 year old about
to drop out of high school.

Am I close?

If so, it makes me feel a bit better because there's hope for you to mature.
If I am wrong, then there's no hope at all and you will be the first that I
will use the killfile for.

RCE

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Harry Krause wrote:
Fred Dehl wrote:

"Doug Kanter" wrote in
:

But it's the Democrats and their envirolunatics who are responsible
for the increased prices during summer.

Rest assured that if the oil companies were bothered by the seasonal
reformulation arrangements, they would've purchased the appropriate
federal officials and arranged for the rules to be changed.


More flatulence from the ****scab who can't write one sentence.



So, you're back from seeing mom in Thailand, eh?


Ah ha! Earlier this week after noticing the excess use of commas and
the potty mouth plus the term 'ya', I was wondering if this was our
former nemesis, Tuuk... aka 'Bangkok Bob'.
He's a one & only...... mold trashed, burned and buried after product
flaws realized.

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NOYB wrote:


He'll be a cold dude soon. Ice cold.


You and your leaders are worse than the Sopranos.
*** go to left column.. more than half way down & hit on 'MacKinnon's

cartoons'
http://www.herald.ns.ca/

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RCE wrote:
He's not funny. As a supposed representative of the human race, he's
alarming.


If Fred agreed with any of my expressed opinions, and still
acted the way he does, I'd find him alarming too. But if he
did think more along the lines I do, he couldn't possibly
act the way he does. So I think he's funny.

But then I always have had a cruel sense of humor. Fred is
like a spastic kitten trying to unravel the strands of
reason from the ball of yarn of life, I laugh when he keeps
konking his head and getting mad at the yarn.

FWIW I agree he's a sorry excuse for a representative of the
human race. If 3,000 years of civilization have brought us
to guys like Fred D, then we might as well have stayed in caves.

Regards
Doug King

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DSK wrote:
RCE wrote:

He's not funny. As a supposed representative of the human race, he's
alarming.


If Fred agreed with any of my expressed opinions, and still acted the
way he does, I'd find him alarming too. But if he did think more along
the lines I do, he couldn't possibly act the way he does. So I think
he's funny.

But then I always have had a cruel sense of humor. Fred is like a
spastic kitten trying to unravel the strands of reason from the ball of
yarn of life, I laugh when he keeps konking his head and getting mad at
the yarn.

FWIW I agree he's a sorry excuse for a representative of the human race.
If 3,000 years of civilization have brought us to guys like Fred D, then
we might as well have stayed in caves.

Regards
Doug King


If you guys keep this up, & Fred is who we think he might be.... expect
another round of threats to visit your houses, kick you in the
nuts...etc etc. I'm gonna rush down to my closest sporting goods store
and buy a jock strap/cup combo.

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"Don White" wrote in message
...
DSK wrote:
RCE wrote:

He's not funny. As a supposed representative of the human race, he's
alarming.


If Fred agreed with any of my expressed opinions, and still acted the way
he does, I'd find him alarming too. But if he did think more along the
lines I do, he couldn't possibly act the way he does. So I think he's
funny.

But then I always have had a cruel sense of humor. Fred is like a spastic
kitten trying to unravel the strands of reason from the ball of yarn of
life, I laugh when he keeps konking his head and getting mad at the yarn.

FWIW I agree he's a sorry excuse for a representative of the human race.
If 3,000 years of civilization have brought us to guys like Fred D, then
we might as well have stayed in caves.

Regards
Doug King


If you guys keep this up, & Fred is who we think he might be.... expect
another round of threats to visit your houses, kick you in the nuts...etc
etc. I'm gonna rush down to my closest sporting goods store and buy a
jock strap/cup combo.

I'd have to brush up on my old Navy days lingo, just to try to communicate
with him.

RCE

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RCE wrote:
"Don White" wrote in message
...

DSK wrote:

RCE wrote:


He's not funny. As a supposed representative of the human race, he's
alarming.


If Fred agreed with any of my expressed opinions, and still acted the way
he does, I'd find him alarming too. But if he did think more along the
lines I do, he couldn't possibly act the way he does. So I think he's
funny.

But then I always have had a cruel sense of humor. Fred is like a spastic
kitten trying to unravel the strands of reason from the ball of yarn of
life, I laugh when he keeps konking his head and getting mad at the yarn.

FWIW I agree he's a sorry excuse for a representative of the human race.
If 3,000 years of civilization have brought us to guys like Fred D, then
we might as well have stayed in caves.

Regards
Doug King


If you guys keep this up, & Fred is who we think he might be.... expect
another round of threats to visit your houses, kick you in the nuts...etc
etc. I'm gonna rush down to my closest sporting goods store and buy a
jock strap/cup combo.


I'd have to brush up on my old Navy days lingo, just to try to communicate
with him.

RCE


Did you watch 'Motor Week' tonight? They were raving about the 2006 BMW
M5. So many features my head was swimming. Got a kick out of the
'paddle type gear shifters' on the steering column.

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I'm pretty sure that's the car Eisboch said he bought.


"Don White" wrote in message
...
RCE wrote:
"Don White" wrote in message
...

DSK wrote:

RCE wrote:


He's not funny. As a supposed representative of the human race, he's
alarming.


If Fred agreed with any of my expressed opinions, and still acted the
way he does, I'd find him alarming too. But if he did think more along
the lines I do, he couldn't possibly act the way he does. So I think
he's funny.

But then I always have had a cruel sense of humor. Fred is like a
spastic kitten trying to unravel the strands of reason from the ball of
yarn of life, I laugh when he keeps konking his head and getting mad at
the yarn.

FWIW I agree he's a sorry excuse for a representative of the human race.
If 3,000 years of civilization have brought us to guys like Fred D, then
we might as well have stayed in caves.

Regards
Doug King


If you guys keep this up, & Fred is who we think he might be.... expect
another round of threats to visit your houses, kick you in the nuts...etc
etc. I'm gonna rush down to my closest sporting goods store and buy a
jock strap/cup combo.


I'd have to brush up on my old Navy days lingo, just to try to
communicate with him.

RCE
Did you watch 'Motor Week' tonight? They were raving about the 2006 BMW
M5. So many features my head was swimming. Got a kick out of the 'paddle
type gear shifters' on the steering column.

Anybody see the USA Today fuel price predictions?
 

Anybody see the USA Today fuel price predictions?
 

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
. ..
NOYB wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
. ..
Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:
On Thu, 13 Apr 2006 06:37:22 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:

Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:
On 12 Apr 2006 21:59:25 -0700, "
wrote:

Driving home this evening, I listened to a local talk radio station
discussing the probable fuel prices during the next few months. They
kept referring to an article in USA Today that projected $4/gallon
gas
prices (would probably run $5 at a fuel dock).

Anybody actually see this story and know the details?

I can't find it online- does anybody have a website address to
check?
Self-fulfilling prophecy. This is a market driven by speculation and
insider information.

I saw the article yesterday and just put it away. Watching CNBC
yesterday, you had prices going from $2.62 to $6 a gallon.

My guess is it will hit a high around $2,90 and settle back once the
refineries come back on-line.
Hugo Chavez says $50 a barrel for oil is sufficient.
Unfortunately, Hugo Chaves doesn't control the price of oil. I know
he likes to think he does, but he doesn't.

He's a cool dude.

He'll be a cold dude soon. Ice cold.


Oh, puh-lease. One of the best attributes of Chavez is that he gives Bush
and the neo-convicts fits. What could be better?

Someone who was not a nutcase dictator. And he fixed the election. Do a
little research. May be his local opposition that ice's him.

Anybody see the USA Today fuel price predictions?
 

CalifBill wrote:
Someone who was not a nutcase dictator. And he fixed the election. Do a
little research. May be his local opposition that ice's him.

Chavez or Bush?

Anybody see the USA Today fuel price predictions?
 

In article ,
says...
DSK wrote in
:

But it's the Democrats and their envirolunatics who are responsible for
the increased prices during summer.

That's right Fred. Democrats are to blame for everything bad
in the whole world, including warm beer, your neighbors
barking dog, and the awful sound of fingernails on a blackboard.

You'd reply rationally if you had a point to make.

If our Republican President hadn't have chosen to invade Iraq, the mid-
east wouldn't be in such turmoil and barrel oil prices would be half or
less than what they are today.

That's rational.

Do you have a rational point to make about Democrats being responsible
for the highest profits the oil companies have experienced in their
entire existence?

Were you going to say something about regulation before I pointed out
the oil companies MADE MORE PROFIT THIS PAST YEAR THAN ANY OTHER TIME IN
HISTORY???

jps

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In article ,
says...
RCE wrote:
He's not funny. As a supposed representative of the human race, he's
alarming.


If Fred agreed with any of my expressed opinions, and still
acted the way he does, I'd find him alarming too. But if he
did think more along the lines I do, he couldn't possibly
act the way he does. So I think he's funny.

But then I always have had a cruel sense of humor. Fred is
like a spastic kitten trying to unravel the strands of
reason from the ball of yarn of life, I laugh when he keeps
konking his head and getting mad at the yarn.

FWIW I agree he's a sorry excuse for a representative of the
human race. If 3,000 years of civilization have brought us
to guys like Fred D, then we might as well have stayed in caves.

Regards
Doug King

I think it's better expressed as *the yarn ball of life*.

A perfect metaphor for Fred's miswired, intermittent synapses.

He chases his tail too.

jps

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In article ,
says...
CalifBill wrote:
Someone who was not a nutcase dictator. And he fixed the election. Do a
little research. May be his local opposition that ice's him.

Chavez or Bush?

If you're talking Bush it could be a member of his own party.

jps

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"-rick-" wrote in message
. ..
CalifBill wrote:
Someone who was not a nutcase dictator. And he fixed the election. Do a
little research. May be his local opposition that ice's him.

Chavez or Bush?

Chavez and the DNC both fixed elections. Bush was very beatable, probably
the most beatable incumbant in history. But the DNC blesses Kerry as the
Dem's candidate? Had to be a fix to lose the election.

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"jps" wrote in message
...
In article ,
says...
DSK wrote in
:

But it's the Democrats and their envirolunatics who are responsible
for
the increased prices during summer.

That's right Fred. Democrats are to blame for everything bad
in the whole world, including warm beer, your neighbors
barking dog, and the awful sound of fingernails on a blackboard.

You'd reply rationally if you had a point to make.

If our Republican President hadn't have chosen to invade Iraq, the mid-
east wouldn't be in such turmoil and barrel oil prices would be half or
less than what they are today.

That's rational.

Do you have a rational point to make about Democrats being responsible
for the highest profits the oil companies have experienced in their
entire existence?

Were you going to say something about regulation before I pointed out
the oil companies MADE MORE PROFIT THIS PAST YEAR THAN ANY OTHER TIME IN
HISTORY???

jps

And the prices of everything are higher then most of history. Gas is lower
compared to most items. And you are very ignorant of world oil markets if
you think that the price would be less than 1/2 per barrel! China has to
get the oil for their massive manufacturing base somewhere.

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"Don White" wrote in message
...
RCE wrote:
"Don White" wrote in message
...

DSK wrote:

RCE wrote:


He's not funny. As a supposed representative of the human race, he's
alarming.


If Fred agreed with any of my expressed opinions, and still acted the
way he does, I'd find him alarming too. But if he did think more along
the lines I do, he couldn't possibly act the way he does. So I think
he's funny.

But then I always have had a cruel sense of humor. Fred is like a
spastic kitten trying to unravel the strands of reason from the ball of
yarn of life, I laugh when he keeps konking his head and getting mad at
the yarn.

FWIW I agree he's a sorry excuse for a representative of the human race.
If 3,000 years of civilization have brought us to guys like Fred D, then
we might as well have stayed in caves.

Regards
Doug King


If you guys keep this up, & Fred is who we think he might be.... expect
another round of threats to visit your houses, kick you in the nuts...etc
etc. I'm gonna rush down to my closest sporting goods store and buy a
jock strap/cup combo.


I'd have to brush up on my old Navy days lingo, just to try to
communicate with him.

RCE
Did you watch 'Motor Week' tonight? They were raving about the 2006 BMW
M5. So many features my head was swimming. Got a kick out of the 'paddle
type gear shifters' on the steering column.


I didn't see it on TV, but I think this must be it:

http://www.mpt.org/motorweek/reviews/rt2531a.shtml.

There were a couple of errors I noticed, although not important issues. One
had to do with the rear seats not folding. You can order optional folding
rear seats.

The other is the elimination of what they call "Launch Control" in the US
versions. Although not the same as the European LC, the US versions do have
a toned down "crippled" version of launch control that becomes automatically
enabled after the break-in period (1200 miles). It's one of several little
secret surprises in the car's software that they don't advertise or tell you
about. It works, but is really impractical to use unless you are at the
drag strip.

Now that I've completed the required 1200 mile "run-in" procedure that is
specified, I've been given the go-ahead by the dealership to let it rip, so
to speak. I tried the "S-6" mode once (highest level of performance and
required driver skills). I doubt I'll ever do it again unless I am on an
isolated race track. The car is just insanely fast and powerful and a
driver not skilled to handle it can get in trouble real fast. Like most
cars, it has DSC (Dynamic Stability Control) that brakes any wheel that
starts to spin and backs off the throttle until traction is regained. Unlike
many cars it also has a second setting called MSC (or something like that)
that allows a level of wheel spin, drifting and high lateral G forces, but
will kick in if things get too far out of hand. Then, for the purist and
experienced driver, you can turn the system off completely and rely on your
driving skills to maintain control. I learned quickly that I am not in that
league, especially with 500 hp on tap.

I plan to attend the M-5 performance driving school in South Carolina
sometime in the next few months. It's a 2 day course that comes with the
purchase of the car and those that have attended say it's a blast and a half
and well worth attending, not just for high performance cars like the M5,
but for drivers of all types of cars.

RCE

Anybody see the USA Today fuel price predictions?
 

In article et,
says...

"jps" wrote in message
...
In article ,
says...
DSK wrote in
:

But it's the Democrats and their envirolunatics who are responsible
for
the increased prices during summer.

That's right Fred. Democrats are to blame for everything bad
in the whole world, including warm beer, your neighbors
barking dog, and the awful sound of fingernails on a blackboard.

You'd reply rationally if you had a point to make.

If our Republican President hadn't have chosen to invade Iraq, the mid-
east wouldn't be in such turmoil and barrel oil prices would be half or
less than what they are today.

That's rational.

Do you have a rational point to make about Democrats being responsible
for the highest profits the oil companies have experienced in their
entire existence?

Were you going to say something about regulation before I pointed out
the oil companies MADE MORE PROFIT THIS PAST YEAR THAN ANY OTHER TIME IN
HISTORY???

jps

And the prices of everything are higher then most of history. Gas is lower
compared to most items. And you are very ignorant of world oil markets if
you think that the price would be less than 1/2 per barrel! China has to
get the oil for their massive manufacturing base somewhere.

Please tell me what the price of oil was prior to the invasion of Iraq.

Never mind, I'll tell you. It was under $30/barrel. Most of Clinton's
years it averaged near $20/barrel.

It's Bush's war that pushed oil prices to where they are today.

Ignorant? Yes, you are.

jps

Anybody see the USA Today fuel price predictions?
 

In article . net,
says...

"-rick-" wrote in message
. ..
CalifBill wrote:
Someone who was not a nutcase dictator. And he fixed the election. Do a
little research. May be his local opposition that ice's him.

Chavez or Bush?

Chavez and the DNC both fixed elections. Bush was very beatable, probably
the most beatable incumbant in history. But the DNC blesses Kerry as the
Dem's candidate? Had to be a fix to lose the election.

Boy, even in hindsight your vision is foggy.

jps

Anybody see the USA Today fuel price predictions?
 

In article ,
says...
jps wrote in
:

It's Bush's war that pushed oil prices to where they are today.

The companies would not be profitable if they did not provide a product at
a price the market is willing to bear. If you don't like the price or the
product, don't buy it.

Non-sequitur Fred. Look it up.

jps

Anybody see the USA Today fuel price predictions?
 

In article ,
says...
jps wrote in
:

Do you have a rational point to make about Democrats being responsible
for the highest profits the oil companies have experienced in their
entire existence?

The companies would not be profitable if they did not provide a product at
a price the market is willing to bear. If you don't like the price or the
product, don't buy it.

Were you going to say something about regulation before I pointed out
the oil companies MADE MORE PROFIT THIS PAST YEAR THAN ANY OTHER TIME IN
HISTORY???

The companies would not be profitable if they did not provide a product at
a price the market is willing to bear. If you don't like the price or the
product, don't buy it.

Non-sequitur Fred. Look it up.

jps

Anybody see the USA Today fuel price predictions?
 

"jps" wrote in message
...
In article . net,
says...

"-rick-" wrote in message
. ..
CalifBill wrote:
Someone who was not a nutcase dictator. And he fixed the election.
Do a
little research. May be his local opposition that ice's him.

Chavez or Bush?

Chavez and the DNC both fixed elections. Bush was very beatable,
probably
the most beatable incumbant in history. But the DNC blesses Kerry as the
Dem's candidate? Had to be a fix to lose the election.

Boy, even in hindsight your vision is foggy.

jps

Why do you say that? You think Kerry was a good choice? Best Choice in
your view?

Anybody see the USA Today fuel price predictions?
 

In article . net,
says...

"jps" wrote in message
...
In article . net,
says...

"-rick-" wrote in message
. ..
CalifBill wrote:
Someone who was not a nutcase dictator. And he fixed the election.
Do a
little research. May be his local opposition that ice's him.

Chavez or Bush?

Chavez and the DNC both fixed elections. Bush was very beatable,
probably
the most beatable incumbant in history. But the DNC blesses Kerry as the
Dem's candidate? Had to be a fix to lose the election.

Boy, even in hindsight your vision is foggy.

jps

Why do you say that? You think Kerry was a good choice? Best Choice in
your view?

If you bother to think back for a moment, you will remember that Kerry
came blazing to the forefront in Iowa -- not because of what the DNC did
but because people there (and lots of other places) thought that his
military service and heroism would counteract the "war president."

I thought so too but I wanted the primary races to remain competitive
for many more weeks into the year, for fear that Kerry would dive to the
middle as soon as Dean's chances faded.

Of course, that's exactly what happened. Kerry dove to the middle and
lost all his luster.

That, and the little dirty tricks launched by the Swift Boaters.

Jog your memory at all?

jps

Anybody see the USA Today fuel price predictions?
 

"RCE" wrote in message
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"Jeff Rigby" wrote in message
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"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 13 Apr 2006 06:37:22 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:

Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:
On 12 Apr 2006 21:59:25 -0700, "
wrote:

Driving home this evening, I listened to a local talk radio station
discussing the probable fuel prices during the next few months. They
kept referring to an article in USA Today that projected $4/gallon
gas
prices (would probably run $5 at a fuel dock).

Anybody actually see this story and know the details?

I can't find it online- does anybody have a website address to check?

Self-fulfilling prophecy. This is a market driven by speculation and
insider information.

I saw the article yesterday and just put it away. Watching CNBC
yesterday, you had prices going from $2.62 to $6 a gallon.

My guess is it will hit a high around $2,90 and settle back once the
refineries come back on-line.

Hugo Chavez says $50 a barrel for oil is sufficient.

Unfortunately, Hugo Chaves doesn't control the price of oil. I know
he likes to think he does, but he doesn't.

At what price does harvesting oil shale and oil sand become economical.
That is the price OPEC will not want oil to reach.


You have a good point. I recently saw a documentary on shale oil and if I
recall correctly, the price is right around 50 dollars per barrel to
justify the cost. Developers must be waiting for a long term
stabilization of oil prices before having at it.

RCE

IF I remember correctly I thought it was Canadian oil sands and slightly
higher than $50 was the price point. Oil shale is harder to mine and
process. Also most of the regions that contain oil shale in this country
are under government control and that makes it harder to get at. As a
political statement we need to have in place laws outlining the sale and
recovery methods so that it won't take 10 years to get them through
congress.

That would go a long way toward stabilizing oil prices and relieve consumers
minds about our oil independence. At a certain price point we would become
100% energy independent as we process our own shale oil reserves.

Anybody see the USA Today fuel price predictions?
 

The ONLY reason for the gas prices is because they can!

That's it in a nutshell.

Ray
"Fred Dehl" wrote in message
...
" wrote in
oups.com:

Dropping them in October may be too late to be of
much PR benefit to the party hoping to maintain a congressional
majority. There's no direct connection between who's in office and oil
prices, but John Q Public is more likely to vote "for change" if he's
feeling unhappy

But it's the Democrats and their envirolunatics who are responsible for
the increased prices during summer.