On Fri, 14 Apr 2006 15:32:04 GMT, Jim wrote:

I expected an argument. Instead, I receive support for my point.

I can't help but notice that some of my friends who were so strong in
their support for Bush a year ago are starting to make statements that I
agree with.

Maybe critical thinking is making a come-back.

Why the attempt to make the discussion political?
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JohnH wrote:

On Fri, 14 Apr 2006 15:32:04 GMT, Jim wrote:


I expected an argument. Instead, I receive support for my point.

I can't help but notice that some of my friends who were so strong in
their support for Bush a year ago are starting to make statements that I
agree with.

Maybe critical thinking is making a come-back.


Why the attempt to make the discussion political?
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'Til next time,

John H

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The discussion IS political.

If politics weren't involved, common sense would take over.

JohnH wrote:

On Fri, 14 Apr 2006 15:32:04 GMT, Jim wrote:


I expected an argument. Instead, I receive support for my point.

I can't help but notice that some of my friends who were so strong in
their support for Bush a year ago are starting to make statements that I
agree with.

Maybe critical thinking is making a come-back.


Why the attempt to make the discussion political?
--
'Til next time,

John H

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Everything going on here involves politics.

You are right, though. I was trying to make the point that the energy
seems to be moving away from what we were all sold in the last 5 years.

I know that political views, like religious, is based on long held
beliefs, reality takes a back seat sometimes. While this has no point
in a boating group, this thread is hopelessly mired in belief instead of
logic.

I could not read all the mis-placed anger with out trying to see if
everyone really thought that way.

On Fri, 14 Apr 2006 17:00:46 GMT, Jim wrote:

JohnH wrote:

On Fri, 14 Apr 2006 15:32:04 GMT, Jim wrote:


I expected an argument. Instead, I receive support for my point.

I can't help but notice that some of my friends who were so strong in
their support for Bush a year ago are starting to make statements that I
agree with.

Maybe critical thinking is making a come-back.


Why the attempt to make the discussion political?
--
'Til next time,

John H

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Everything going on here involves politics.

You are right, though. I was trying to make the point that the energy
seems to be moving away from what we were all sold in the last 5 years.

I know that political views, like religious, is based on long held
beliefs, reality takes a back seat sometimes. While this has no point
in a boating group, this thread is hopelessly mired in belief instead of
logic.

I could not read all the mis-placed anger with out trying to see if
everyone really thought that way.

A discussion of the possible punishment for a terrorist is not, in and of
itself, political.

A discussion of photography is not political.

A discussion on the best way to catch stripers is not political.

etc., etc., etc.

It's simply not true that everything going on here involves politics.
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John H

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JohnH wrote:

On Fri, 14 Apr 2006 17:00:46 GMT, Jim wrote:


JohnH wrote:


On Fri, 14 Apr 2006 15:32:04 GMT, Jim wrote:



I expected an argument. Instead, I receive support for my point.

I can't help but notice that some of my friends who were so strong in
their support for Bush a year ago are starting to make statements that I
agree with.

Maybe critical thinking is making a come-back.


Why the attempt to make the discussion political?
--
'Til next time,

John H

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Everything going on here involves politics.

You are right, though. I was trying to make the point that the energy
seems to be moving away from what we were all sold in the last 5 years.

I know that political views, like religious, is based on long held
beliefs, reality takes a back seat sometimes. While this has no point
in a boating group, this thread is hopelessly mired in belief instead of
logic.

I could not read all the mis-placed anger with out trying to see if
everyone really thought that way.


A discussion of the possible punishment for a terrorist is not, in and of
itself, political.

A discussion of photography is not political.

A discussion on the best way to catch stripers is not political.

etc., etc., etc.

It's simply not true that everything going on here involves politics.
--
'Til next time,

John H

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I'll try this again:

Mossaoui was tossed out of the group. His actions were ZERO, aside from
some unsuccessful flight training. I doubt that he really knew much
about the actual attack.

He said he did, but, AFTER the attack took place. He isn't a terrorist,
he's a wanna be terrorist.

What frustrates me, is that you misunderstand that we were not
"discussing possible punishment for a terrorist", but trying to out do
each other on inhuman treatment of a guy that's mentally ill.

Our society is not headed in a direction that makes us better than they are.


He's a nutcase, but only a pretend terrorist. That's quite different.

On Sat, 15 Apr 2006 02:44:24 GMT, Jim wrote:

JohnH wrote:

On Fri, 14 Apr 2006 17:00:46 GMT, Jim wrote:


JohnH wrote:


On Fri, 14 Apr 2006 15:32:04 GMT, Jim wrote:



I expected an argument. Instead, I receive support for my point.

I can't help but notice that some of my friends who were so strong in
their support for Bush a year ago are starting to make statements that I
agree with.

Maybe critical thinking is making a come-back.


Why the attempt to make the discussion political?
--
'Til next time,

John H

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Everything going on here involves politics.

You are right, though. I was trying to make the point that the energy
seems to be moving away from what we were all sold in the last 5 years.

I know that political views, like religious, is based on long held
beliefs, reality takes a back seat sometimes. While this has no point
in a boating group, this thread is hopelessly mired in belief instead of
logic.

I could not read all the mis-placed anger with out trying to see if
everyone really thought that way.


A discussion of the possible punishment for a terrorist is not, in and of
itself, political.

A discussion of photography is not political.

A discussion on the best way to catch stripers is not political.

etc., etc., etc.

It's simply not true that everything going on here involves politics.
--
'Til next time,

John H

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I'll try this again:

Mossaoui was tossed out of the group. His actions were ZERO, aside from
some unsuccessful flight training. I doubt that he really knew much
about the actual attack.

He said he did, but, AFTER the attack took place. He isn't a terrorist,
he's a wanna be terrorist.

What frustrates me, is that you misunderstand that we were not
"discussing possible punishment for a terrorist", but trying to out do
each other on inhuman treatment of a guy that's mentally ill.

Our society is not headed in a direction that makes us better than they are.


He's a nutcase, but only a pretend terrorist. That's quite different.

No. *We* were discussing punishment for a terrorist. *You* tried to turn
the discussion into a political argument.

As I said earlier, you obviously know more about Moussaoui's involvement
than either Moussaoui or his jury.

Would the other 19 be 'mentally ill' and deserving of placement in 'the
mental health system' by your definitions?


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John H

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