I just re-read "1984." If you've never read it, here it is:
http://www.online-literature.com/orwell/1984/

Suzanna hamilton looked pretty good in "1984

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http://www.tvtotty.net/tottyvids18/8e684d20.jpg

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JohnH wrote:
I think he should be isolated in a small cage and left there until he
dies.
No martyrdom for him.
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My relatively rare OT comment, sorry.

Unless he committed a capital crime under common definition, as
reprehensible as the ******* is we should not put him to death. The
prosecution seems to be making a case that
"failure to act" to prevent 9-11 is a capital offense. (If some far out
wack job conspiracy theorists were ever proven correct, that legal
precedent could have some dire and unexpected consequences).

Would we be better off to stick him in a typical state prison, and make sure
every other prisoner knows exactly who he is?

Doug Kanter wrote:

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JohnH wrote:

I think he should be isolated in a small cage and left there until he
dies.
No martyrdom for him.
--

My relatively rare OT comment, sorry.

Unless he committed a capital crime under common definition, as
reprehensible as the ******* is we should not put him to death. The
prosecution seems to be making a case that
"failure to act" to prevent 9-11 is a capital offense. (If some far out
wack job conspiracy theorists were ever proven correct, that legal
precedent could have some dire and unexpected consequences).


Would we be better off to stick him in a typical state prison, and make sure
every other prisoner knows exactly who he is?


Exactly who is he?

He'd be better off in the mental health system.

On Fri, 14 Apr 2006 15:49:58 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
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JohnH wrote:
I think he should be isolated in a small cage and left there until he
dies.
No martyrdom for him.
--

My relatively rare OT comment, sorry.

Unless he committed a capital crime under common definition, as
reprehensible as the ******* is we should not put him to death. The
prosecution seems to be making a case that
"failure to act" to prevent 9-11 is a capital offense. (If some far out
wack job conspiracy theorists were ever proven correct, that legal
precedent could have some dire and unexpected consequences).

Would we be better off to stick him in a typical state prison, and make sure
every other prisoner knows exactly who he is?


There are too many Muslims in prisons who would think him a hero. He needs
isolation.
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'Til next time,

John H

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On 14 Apr 2006 08:28:23 -0700, "
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JohnH wrote:
I think he should be isolated in a small cage and left there until he dies.
No martyrdom for him.
--

My relatively rare OT comment, sorry.

Unless he committed a capital crime under common definition, as
reprehensible as the ******* is we should not put him to death. The
prosecution seems to be making a case that
"failure to act" to prevent 9-11 is a capital offense. (If some far out
wack job conspiracy theorists were ever proven correct, that legal
precedent could have some dire and unexpected consequences).

Sometimes I think too far outside the box. My fear with this case is
that we will wind up killing a man not for a crime that he committed,
but for a crime that he would have committed if he were not arrested
first. Does this open the door for executing anybody
planning a murder? If the police just happen to catch the would be
murderer before he or she can carry out the plan- should they be put to
death anyway? Setting off on a course where we kill people not for what
they did but for what they *thought* about doing is just a baby step
short of simply killing people for harboring certain "politically
incorrect" thoughts or opinions. We can't go there and still be the
USA.

As far as I know, conspiracy to commit murder is not a capital crime.
Give this ******* the maximum allowable term for each of the 3,0000
victimes on 9-11 with no possibiilty of parole. Should be abut 30,000
years. That's justice. I think the Constitution has to be observed and
defended, even when it stands in the way of exacting revenge for one of
the most tragic incidents in American history.

Will now surrender the soap box........

Not knowing the pertinent laws in this area (or those given the jury), I
can't argue why the jury found him eligible for the death penalty. I would
tend to think that finding not un-Constitutional, however.

At least we agree on the outcome. Put him in a box. Keep him quiet 'til he
dies.
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'Til next time,

John H

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JohnH wrote:
I think he should be isolated in a small cage and left there until he
dies.
No martyrdom for him.
--

My relatively rare OT comment, sorry.

Unless he committed a capital crime under common definition, as
reprehensible as the ******* is we should not put him to death. The
prosecution seems to be making a case that
"failure to act" to prevent 9-11 is a capital offense. (If some far out
wack job conspiracy theorists were ever proven correct, that legal
precedent could have some dire and unexpected consequences).

Sometimes I think too far outside the box. My fear with this case is
that we will wind up killing a man not for a crime that he committed,
but for a crime that he would have committed if he were not arrested
first. Does this open the door for executing anybody
planning a murder? If the police just happen to catch the would be
murderer before he or she can carry out the plan- should they be put to
death anyway? Setting off on a course where we kill people not for what
they did but for what they *thought* about doing is just a baby step
short of simply killing people for harboring certain "politically
incorrect" thoughts or opinions. We can't go there and still be the
USA.

As far as I know, conspiracy to commit murder is not a capital crime.
Give this ******* the maximum allowable term for each of the 3,0000
victimes on 9-11 with no possibiilty of parole. Should be abut 30,000
years. That's justice. I think the Constitution has to be observed and
defended, even when it stands in the way of exacting revenge for one of
the most tragic incidents in American history.

Will now surrender the soap box........


This guy is of the same breed that beheads innocent civilians and sends the
video to be broadcast world-wide. He's of the same breed that drags
(hopefully) dead foreigners through the streets of his hometown to make some
kind of public statement. He's a sworn enemy and has made a sacred vow to
kill as many of us as he can.

Castrate the sucker so he can't enjoy his 72 virgins, then fry his ass.

RCE

I would be happy to take him snorkling at the Farallones in October
(peak Great White Shark season).

In the sentencing phase, the prosucution has built a fine fire under
him, and he dumps a 55 gal drum of gas on it: "next time, burn the
whole Pentagon".


"Gudmundur" wrote in message ...
Let me see if one of the following is correct and fitting
for mossaoui,

Scene 1

Burn him at the stake in public. Start a very small fire at his feet
then each member of a family who lost a loved one on 9/11 can add a small
piece of pine to the fire. I want him slow roasted.

Scene 2

Tonight we accidently announce he will be released at the ground
zero area of New York City this Saturday at 14:00, but we start
selling clubs and bats half price Friday evening around 18:00.

Scene 3

We strap him into the first class area of a 747 radio controlled
target drone and after takeoff hand the radio remote control to
a six year old.

It's just time to not be politically correct anymore!!
You folks know me, you know I am an Icelander living in America
by your graces holding a job and paying taxes. I served in your Navy.
When I hear that they may try to defend Mossaoui with an insanity plea
I just can't handle it anymore. He will be a martyr no matter what.
We should at least have a little fun at Mossaoui's expense.

I know what it is like to lose a brother at sea, I know what it is
like to lose a father at war. I don't want you folks to ever have to
know that pain again. You really should end your hand out of jobs and
education to foreign nationals and I will leave if I am no longer
qualified to be here either.

One final thought,, If you don't support the idea of your troops
being over in Iraq, then take that matter up with your congress or
president, but don't disrespect or spit on a serviceman!! We chose to
serve so that others could be free of tyranny, we didn't get to choose
where or how we would do that.

Blessings of good boating to you this season! Please be safe!

Gummi.

I haven't heard anyone say this, yet.

Every one is venting about Mossaoui, but, what did he actually do?

He's just a wanna be, he's nuts, and he's seen as so be those he wanted
to join. They dumped him.

He actually had no part in 9/11. Executing him accomplished nothing.
he belongs in a mental hospital.

Our current political leaders chose not to "get" Osama. remember Bush's
unbelievable stance in the 2004 elections? He won the election despite
his failure. it was almost as if Bin Lauden had a value, for whatever
reason.

Listening to all the reliving 9/11, I wonder why we are blaming him for
those acts. he wasn't part of any of it.

Just a wanna be terrorist.

On Thu, 13 Apr 2006 04:11:32 +0000, Jim wrote:

I haven't heard anyone say this, yet.

Every one is venting about Mossaoui, but, what did he actually do?

He's just a wanna be, he's nuts, and he's seen as so be those he wanted to
join. They dumped him.

He actually had no part in 9/11. Executing him accomplished nothing. he
belongs in a mental hospital.

Our current political leaders chose not to "get" Osama. remember Bush's
unbelievable stance in the 2004 elections? He won the election despite
his failure. it was almost as if Bin Lauden had a value, for whatever
reason.

Exactly, but you are ****in' in the wind. Welcome to "the Long War". The
replacement for the Cold War.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,,1710062,00.html

Didn't Eisenhower mention this 40 years ago? Wasn't anyone listening?

http://coursesa.matrix.msu.edu/~hst3...ts/indust.html




Listening to all the reliving 9/11, I wonder why we are blaming him for
those acts. he wasn't part of any of it.

Just a wanna be terrorist.

I expected an argument. Instead, I receive support for my point.

I can't help but notice that some of my friends who were so strong in
their support for Bush a year ago are starting to make statements that I
agree with.

Maybe critical thinking is making a come-back.