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JohnH March 5th 06 12:19 PM

Ayatollah Monaghan sets up shop near Naples, Florida
 
On Sat, 04 Mar 2006 09:43:42 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

Bert Robbins wrote:

Harry Krause wrote:


See what happens when you sell really bad pizza to Americans?




I agree that Dominos pizza is the worst of all take out pizza. Thank God we
have Pizza Hut and Pappa John's serving our area.



Well. I'm not impressed with the product of any of the carry-out pizza
chains, but I'll agree that Pizza Hut is better than Dominos. I thought
Papa Johns no better than Dominos, though it tasted different.

There are better frozen pizzas at the supermarket than any of the chains
offer.

The best pizza in the DC area is at Luciano's Restaurant in the Tysons
Corners mall, and at Mama Lucia's in Dunkirk, MD. Both are full menu sit
down Italian restaurants with carry out.

I know this because I grew up in New Haven where the best pizza in the
world is still made at Pepe's, and I've had Pepe's pizza hundreds of
times, and try to get there whenever I'm in the area.


Ledo's, College Park. Best in the area.
--
'Til next time,

John H

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***** Have a Spectacular Day! *****
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Bert Robbins March 5th 06 02:27 PM

Ayatollah Monaghan sets up shop near Naples, Florida
 

"Gene Kearns" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 4 Mar 2006 23:24:46 -0500 in rec.boats, Bert Robbins penned
the following thoughts:



According to Bert, you are wrong.


What? You are mistaking covenants with laws.


In the relevant post, I said nothing about covenants. This is about
the US Constitution and laws, not deed restrictions.


Deed restrictions are based upon English Common Law and are addressed in the
US Constitution and laws.

You said, "Some native americans are allowed to use Peote because it
is part of their religious services. So, using some weed, like the
Rastafarans, shouldn't be any different. But, their might be a some
deference place on Native Americans rather than transplants."

NOYB said, "There are laws limiting the number of wives, the use of
marijuana, and sex with young boys. So you couldn't set up a
community that violates those laws."

If you guys want to take the same position, do you want some time to
get on the same side of the fence?


You are confusing the freedom to practice your religion with enacting and
enforcing laws. One is a right granted by the US Constitution and the other
is a choice by the people.





Bert Robbins March 5th 06 02:30 PM

Ayatollah Monaghan sets up shop near Naples, Florida
 

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
JohnH wrote:
On Sat, 04 Mar 2006 09:43:42 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

Bert Robbins wrote:

Harry Krause wrote:
See what happens when you sell really bad pizza to Americans?

I agree that Dominos pizza is the worst of all take out pizza. Thank
God we have Pizza Hut and Pappa John's serving our area.

Well. I'm not impressed with the product of any of the carry-out pizza
chains, but I'll agree that Pizza Hut is better than Dominos. I thought
Papa Johns no better than Dominos, though it tasted different.

There are better frozen pizzas at the supermarket than any of the chains
offer.

The best pizza in the DC area is at Luciano's Restaurant in the Tysons
Corners mall, and at Mama Lucia's in Dunkirk, MD. Both are full menu sit
down Italian restaurants with carry out.

I know this because I grew up in New Haven where the best pizza in the
world is still made at Pepe's, and I've had Pepe's pizza hundreds of
times, and try to get there whenever I'm in the area.


Ledo's, College Park. Best in the area.
--
'Til next time,

John H

******************************************
***** Have a Spectacular Day! *****
******************************************


I kept hearing about Ledos, so we tried it. It's fourth rate.


Ledo's is cheap pizza and is in the same league as McDonalds food.



Bert Robbins March 5th 06 02:38 PM

Ayatollah Monaghan sets up shop near Naples, Florida
 

"Gene Kearns" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 05 Mar 2006 12:09:16 GMT in rec.boats, NOYB penned the
following thoughts:

Before you step too far into this... realize that there are good
christian fundamentalists that are ready to take over the state of SC
and secede from the USA to force their will on all of the citizens of
SC.... see: http://christianexodus.org

I don't see that these catholic zealots in FL are any different.


I do. The group you talk about is trying to assimilate a bunch of people
who are already living there. Ave Maria is yet to be built. Anybody who
lives there or works there knows the rules going in.


That is a terribly weak and specious argument.

This is merely an effort by well heeled religious zealots to try to
restrict the constitutional rights of the citizens of Naples and
Collier County. Those citizens, already property owners, do NOT as you
assert ".....know the rules going in." They will likely pay a large
price, in terms of taxation, to defend themselves against these
newcomers in order to protect their constitutional rights.

After having breakfast with some Catholic friends, to my surprise, I
find that there are a LOT of Catholics that don't see it your way.


I ate diner with some Catholics last night, slept with one of them, my wife,
and had breakfast with some Catholics this morning. They disagree with your
view of this issue.

Gene, please tell us what is really bothering you about Ave Maria and other
similar communities?

Caveat emptor.



JohnH March 5th 06 04:44 PM

Ayatollah Monaghan sets up shop near Naples, Florida
 
On Sun, 5 Mar 2006 09:30:00 -0500, "Bert Robbins" wrote:


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
JohnH wrote:
On Sat, 04 Mar 2006 09:43:42 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

Bert Robbins wrote:

Harry Krause wrote:
See what happens when you sell really bad pizza to Americans?

I agree that Dominos pizza is the worst of all take out pizza. Thank
God we have Pizza Hut and Pappa John's serving our area.

Well. I'm not impressed with the product of any of the carry-out pizza
chains, but I'll agree that Pizza Hut is better than Dominos. I thought
Papa Johns no better than Dominos, though it tasted different.

There are better frozen pizzas at the supermarket than any of the chains
offer.

The best pizza in the DC area is at Luciano's Restaurant in the Tysons
Corners mall, and at Mama Lucia's in Dunkirk, MD. Both are full menu sit
down Italian restaurants with carry out.

I know this because I grew up in New Haven where the best pizza in the
world is still made at Pepe's, and I've had Pepe's pizza hundreds of
times, and try to get there whenever I'm in the area.


Ledo's, College Park. Best in the area.
--
'Til next time,

John H

******************************************
***** Have a Spectacular Day! *****
******************************************


I kept hearing about Ledos, so we tried it. It's fourth rate.


Ledo's is cheap pizza and is in the same league as McDonalds food.


Shows what you know!
--
'Til next time,

John H

******************************************
***** Have a Spectacular Day! *****
******************************************

Bert Robbins March 6th 06 02:32 AM

Ayatollah Monaghan sets up shop near Naples, Florida
 

"Gene Kearns" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 5 Mar 2006 09:38:56 -0500 in rec.boats, Bert Robbins penned
the following thoughts:


"Gene Kearns" wrote in message
. ..
On Sun, 05 Mar 2006 12:09:16 GMT in rec.boats, NOYB penned the
following thoughts:

Before you step too far into this... realize that there are good
christian fundamentalists that are ready to take over the state of SC
and secede from the USA to force their will on all of the citizens of
SC.... see: http://christianexodus.org

I don't see that these catholic zealots in FL are any different.

I do. The group you talk about is trying to assimilate a bunch of
people
who are already living there. Ave Maria is yet to be built. Anybody
who
lives there or works there knows the rules going in.

That is a terribly weak and specious argument.

This is merely an effort by well heeled religious zealots to try to
restrict the constitutional rights of the citizens of Naples and
Collier County. Those citizens, already property owners, do NOT as you
assert ".....know the rules going in." They will likely pay a large
price, in terms of taxation, to defend themselves against these
newcomers in order to protect their constitutional rights.

After having breakfast with some Catholic friends, to my surprise, I
find that there are a LOT of Catholics that don't see it your way.


I ate diner with some Catholics last night, slept with one of them, my
wife,
and had breakfast with some Catholics this morning. They disagree with
your
view of this issue.

Gene, please tell us what is really bothering you about Ave Maria and
other
similar communities?

Caveat emptor.


Simply? Separation of church and state.


There is no "seperation of church and state." There is the establishment
clause, "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion,
or prohibiting the free exercise thereof". Do you understand that
establishment and seperation are two different words.

I know separation of church and state is in the constitution and is
*supposed to be a law, but gosh, man, there is always "a choice by the
people," right?


Sorry, there is no seperation of church and state in the US Constitution.

Caveat Emptor? For a Catholic, your Latin sucks. I'm neither buying
your line of argument nor do I think those people that have drunk the
good Mr. Monaghan's kool-aid are particularly careful of their
merchants.


In this country you have the freedom to live their or not to live there. Why
do you want to deny others of their freedom to make that choice?

Your position is now clear. Roger and out.


I support individual freedom, which this country was founded upon. But, you
don't want other to exercise their God given rights under the constitution.
If they weren't God given then who or what gave them their inalienable
rights? The State didn't exist prior to it's constitution so the state
couldn't have given you those rights.




NOYB March 6th 06 04:33 AM

Ayatollah Monaghan sets up shop near Naples, Florida
 

"Gene Kearns" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 05 Mar 2006 12:09:16 GMT in rec.boats, NOYB penned the
following thoughts:

Before you step too far into this... realize that there are good
christian fundamentalists that are ready to take over the state of SC
and secede from the USA to force their will on all of the citizens of
SC.... see: http://christianexodus.org

I don't see that these catholic zealots in FL are any different.


I do. The group you talk about is trying to assimilate a bunch of people
who are already living there. Ave Maria is yet to be built. Anybody who
lives there or works there knows the rules going in.


That is a terribly weak and specious argument.

This is merely an effort by well heeled religious zealots to try to
restrict the constitutional rights of the citizens of Naples and
Collier County. Those citizens, already property owners, do NOT as you
assert ".....know the rules going in." They will likely pay a large
price, in terms of taxation, to defend themselves against these
newcomers in order to protect their constitutional rights.

After having breakfast with some Catholic friends, to my surprise, I
find that there are a LOT of Catholics that don't see it your way.


I go to church with a lot of Catholics who love the idea of a Catholic
University and Catholic "town" so close to Naples.

My kids go to a Catholic elementary school that has some affiliations with
Ave Maria and Monaghan.

And "my" Catholic friends live in this region of Florida...not in the
Carolinas...so their opinion is more relevant.




Doug Kanter March 6th 06 11:35 AM

Ayatollah Monaghan sets up shop near Naples, Florida
 

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Bert Robbins wrote:


I support individual freedom, which this country was founded upon. But,
you don't want other to exercise their God given rights under the
constitution. If they weren't God given then who or what gave them their
inalienable rights? The State didn't exist prior to it's constitution so
the state couldn't have given you those rights.


Circular.



......and pretzel-like. Even worse.




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