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Billgran February 24th 06 02:05 PM

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"Skipper" wrote in message
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Sorry, Skipper,

Those fuel consumption and performance figures are FACTS, not "spuik".



Billgran February 24th 06 02:24 PM

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"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On 24 Feb 2006 05:43:49 -0800, "billgran"
wrote:
Here are the performance results with twin 2006 250hp E-TECs that only
consume 20.7 gph at about 35 mph on a heavy 30' SeaCraft, less than 11
gph per motor, just like Gene said.



I've been saying this since last summer when I put the 225s on my
Contender.




Actually, you probably get better milage than the 20.7 gph at 35mph than the
SeaCraft because your Contender is a faster boat with a more efficient hull
design. What do you get for top speed and which props are you running?

Bill Grannis
service manager



Skipper February 24th 06 02:27 PM

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Billgran wrote:

spruiked, spruiking
1. slang
Said especially of showmen, salesmen, etc: to speak in public,
especially at length and using ornate language.
Derivative: spruiker


Sorry, Skipper,


Those fuel consumption and performance figures are FACTS, not "spuik".


You were one of those disagreeing with Karen when she correctly pointed
out the original Ficht debacle. Respectfully, Bill, did you ever admit
she was right and you were wrong at the time? Did you ever apologize to
her for your mistaken position?

--
Skipper

Billgran February 24th 06 02:49 PM

E-Tec problems?????
 

"Skipper" wrote in message
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You were one of those disagreeing with Karen when she correctly pointed
out the original Ficht debacle. Respectfully, Bill, did you ever admit
she was right and you were wrong at the time? Did you ever apologize to
her for your mistaken position?

--
Skipper



Did you ever stop beating your wife?




Reggie Smithers February 24th 06 03:01 PM

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Billgran wrote:
"Skipper" wrote in message
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You were one of those disagreeing with Karen when she correctly pointed
out the original Ficht debacle. Respectfully, Bill, did you ever admit
she was right and you were wrong at the time? Did you ever apologize to
her for your mistaken position?

--
Skipper



Did you ever stop beating your wife?



Bill,
I wonder how long E-Tec needs to be in use before we can decide if their
service record is acceptable or comparable to 4 stroke engines.

--
Reggie
************************************************** *************
That's my story and I am sticking to it.

************************************************** *************

Don White February 24th 06 03:05 PM

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Billgran wrote:
"Skipper" wrote in message
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You were one of those disagreeing with Karen when she correctly pointed
out the original Ficht debacle. Respectfully, Bill, did you ever admit
she was right and you were wrong at the time? Did you ever apologize to
her for your mistaken position?

--
Skipper




Did you ever stop beating your wife?



More likely she beats him!

Skipper February 24th 06 03:12 PM

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Billgran wrote:

"Skipper" wrote...


You were one of those disagreeing with Karen when she correctly pointed
out the original Ficht debacle. Respectfully, Bill, did you ever admit
she was right and you were wrong at the time? Did you ever apologize to
her for your mistaken position?


Did you ever stop beating your wife?


Just thought I'd ask...and offer some insight into your long running
battle with Karen. She was *proven* right then...and you should have
been big enough to have admitted it.

--
Skipper

Billgran February 24th 06 03:37 PM

E-Tec problems?????
 

"Skipper" wrote in message
...


Just thought I'd ask...and offer some insight into your long running
battle with Karen. She was *proven* right then...and you should have
been big enough to have admitted it.

--
Skipper



She hasn't been proven right. Karen has been consistantly wrong on most
counts. Just look at the recent post about fuel consumption at 35mph. In
actuality, her erroneous assumption was almost 50% higher that the actual
facts. That is what happens when "armchair admirals" spout off with no hands
on experience, training, or even seeing or driving an E-TEC, FICHT, or any
other model.

I work on outboard motors as a full time job. If E-TEC and FICHT were so
bad, as Karen claims, there would be piles of blown engines and every
Evinrude dealer would be out of business as no one would buy them. It ain't
that way, Bombardier is the 3rd largest seller of outboards in the US,
behind 1st place Merc and then Yamaha.






[email protected] February 24th 06 04:32 PM

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billgran wrote:
"K. Smith" wrote:


Oh Gene!!!! Read this, "cruising" @ 35MPH on his claimed E-Tecs 8-11 US
gph!!!!! The contender with twin 225 anythings will be almost 30 gph at
35mph.


Come
on Gene embarrass yourself as usual & say you think this is for real.
I'll send it to the contender people for you:-)




Well, once again Karen is "blown out of the water" with actual facts.

Here are the performance results with twin 2006 250hp E-TECs that only
consume 20.7 gph at about 35 mph on a heavy 30' SeaCraft, less than 11
gph per motor, just like Gene said.

That is so much better fuel economy than Karen's contention that a boat
that size should burn 30 gph at 35 mph!


Twin 250 E-TEC - 30' SeaCraft
19" Rebel - 3 blade props

RPM MPH GPH MPG
500 2.2 0.36 6.0
1000 5.7 1.46 3.9
1500 7.9 2.97 2.6
2000 9.0 5.98 1.5
2500 14.7 12.22 1.2
3000 21.4 14.20 1.5
3500 29.0 17.19 1.7
4000 35.3 20.70 1.7
4500 41.0 24.45 1.7
5000 46.2 31.59 1.5
5400 48.7 37.84 1.3



Is the data for one motor or both motors?

My 200 HP Optimax takes 19 GPH at WOT .. so 37 GPH for 500 HP wouldnt
be bad ...

All other ETec fuel data I have seen so far the ETec got their ass
whipped by the optimax (even HDPI).

Matt


Skipper February 24th 06 04:37 PM

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Billgran wrote:

Just thought I'd ask...and offer some insight into your long running
battle with Karen. She was *proven* right then...and you should have
been big enough to have admitted it.


She hasn't been proven right.


That's what I'm talking about, Bill. OMC when bankrupt and screwed
thousands customers over the very Ficht technology issues Karen warned
us about.

http://my.boatus.com/consumer/OMCBankruptcy.asp

In spite of your blunder in the Ficht issue I still have a great deal of
respect for your opinions. You are one the the industries real assets,
but damn it, admit when you're wrong.

--
Skipper


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