Skipper wrote:
Don White wrote:


I would love to read more of the E-Tec horror stories, can you provide
me a link to the owner stories? Let me correct that, will you cut and
paste a link to the horror stories he


Karen and Skipper do their reading in the same section of the
library...the fantasy section.


Unfortunately, you're not old enough to recall Karen accurately forecast
the Ficht debacle. She took on the Billgrans of the NG and *proved* them
wrong. Suspect history does repeat itself, Donald.

--
Skipper


Only my mother calls me 'Donald'!
I'm old enough...I just wasn't around here way back then.

Don White wrote:

Karen and Skipper do their reading in the same section of the
library...the fantasy section.

Unfortunately, you're not old enough to recall Karen accurately forecast
the Ficht debacle. She took on the Billgrans of the NG and *proved* them
wrong. Suspect history does repeat itself, Donald.

Only my mother calls me 'Donald'!
I'm old enough...I just wasn't around here way back then.

Yes, many contributors were not *there* back then...as is the case to
this day. History has proven Karen to be correct on most technical
issues of controversy. If she takes a strong position, it's wise to pay
attention.

--
Skipper

"Skipper" wrote in message
...
Unfortunately, you're not old enough to recall Karen accurately forecast
the Ficht debacle. She took on the Billgrans of the NG and *proved* them
wrong. Skipper


She hasn't proved anything, except her ignorance in DFI engines. Ranting and
raving is not proof.

Bill Grannis
service manager

Billgran wrote:

"Skipper" wrote:

Unfortunately, you're not old enough to recall Karen accurately forecast
the Ficht debacle. She took on the Billgrans of the NG and *proved* them
wrong.

She hasn't proved anything, except her ignorance in DFI engines. Ranting and
raving is not proof.

I have a great deal of respect for your advice, but Karen was proven
correct in her Ficht prognostications. That technology took a huge
company down as she *correctly* forecast. As for proof, the NG archives
are all the proof she needs on that subject. She was the only one
predicting that fall, as I recall.

--
Skipper

Skipper wrote:
Don White wrote:

Karen and Skipper do their reading in the same section of the
library...the fantasy section.

Unfortunately, you're not old enough to recall Karen accurately forecast
the Ficht debacle. She took on the Billgrans of the NG and *proved* them
wrong. Suspect history does repeat itself, Donald.

Only my mother calls me 'Donald'!
I'm old enough...I just wasn't around here way back then.

Yes, many contributors were not *there* back then...as is the case to
this day. History has proven Karen to be correct on most technical
issues of controversy. If she takes a strong position, it's wise to pay
attention.

--
Skipper

Skipper,

Many wise people have supported unpopular positions and have been later
been proven correct. The problem I have with Karen's position is,
except for the initial first two years there has not been any abnormal
problem with Ficht or E-Tec. The initial problems was corrected, and to
the best of my understanding, the owners had their motors covered under
warranty. When I do a search on Ficht or E-Tec problems, the only
problems I can find relate to the initial problem.

Why have all the consumers, and their were many that complained during
the first two years, suddenly stopped complaining?

The only logical conclusion is the Ficht/E-Tec problem has been solved.

Why does Karen refuse to post links to the consumer complaints she has
posted in rec.boats. The logical conclusion is they relate to problems
that arose in the first two years and have since been corrected.

Those who are supporting E-Tec technology have done a much better job of
presenting their position. Karen speaks very loudly, but is not
effective in presenting a logical argument to support her position.
--
Reggie
************************************************** *************
That's my story and I am sticking to it.

************************************************** *************

Skipper wrote:
Billgran wrote:

"Skipper" wrote:

Unfortunately, you're not old enough to recall Karen accurately forecast
the Ficht debacle. She took on the Billgrans of the NG and *proved* them
wrong.

She hasn't proved anything, except her ignorance in DFI engines. Ranting and
raving is not proof.

I have a great deal of respect for your advice, but Karen was proven
correct in her Ficht prognostications. That technology took a huge
company down as she *correctly* forecast. As for proof, the NG archives
are all the proof she needs on that subject. She was the only one
predicting that fall, as I recall.

--
Skipper
Skipper,
Can you provide some links to the problems with 2000 or later E-Tec and
Ficht engines?

--
Reggie
************************************************** *************
That's my story and I am sticking to it.

************************************************** *************

Reggie Smithers wrote:

Yes, many contributors were not *there* back then...as is the case to
this day. History has proven Karen to be correct on most technical
issues of controversy. If she takes a strong position, it's wise to pay
attention.

Why does Karen refuse to post links to the consumer complaints she has
posted in rec.boats.

I just Googled the Ficht issue and found many consumer complaints. They
are there. And then there's the original OMC failure scam voiding
warrantees. What about those consumers?

Look, Karen was alone in detailing the technical problems and
forecasting the failure. That was a significant event. Why can't you
give her credit for that?

--
Skipper

"Skipper" wrote in message
...

I just Googled the Ficht issue and found many consumer complaints. They
are there. And then there's the original OMC failure scam voiding
warrantees. What about those consumers?

--
Skipper

One of the problems of "Goggling" for feedback on any product is the
vastness of the Internet and the fact that, by far, the only people
motivated to post something are those that have problems or are otherwise
dissatisfied. There is little motivation to arbitrarily report that
"everything is fine and we love it." You will find 'em, but they are
usually in response to someone asking for recommendations or those having
specific questions about a product.

If you doubt this, pick several automobile models or any other high volume
product and Google for customer comments. The vast majority will be
complaints, but will only represent a small percentage of the total product
sales.

RCE

RCE wrote:
"Skipper" wrote in message
...
I just Googled the Ficht issue and found many consumer complaints. They
are there. And then there's the original OMC failure scam voiding
warrantees. What about those consumers?

--
Skipper

One of the problems of "Goggling" for feedback on any product is the
vastness of the Internet and the fact that, by far, the only people
motivated to post something are those that have problems or are otherwise
dissatisfied. There is little motivation to arbitrarily report that
"everything is fine and we love it." You will find 'em, but they are
usually in response to someone asking for recommendations or those having
specific questions about a product.

If you doubt this, pick several automobile models or any other high volume
product and Google for customer comments. The vast majority will be
complaints, but will only represent a small percentage of the total product
sales.

RCE


Richard,
The vast majority of complaints seem to be limited to the 1998 and 1999
models. I am sure there are some more recent, I just could not find any.

--
Reggie
************************************************** *************
That's my story and I am sticking to it.

************************************************** *************

Reggie Smithers wrote:

The vast majority of complaints seem to be limited to the 1998 and 1999
models. I am sure there are some more recent, I just could not find any.

Sorry to learn of your infirmity. Hopefully, you will get your Google
working properly soon.

--
Skipper