Calif Bill wrote:
Maybe I am a wimp, or just cheap. When I used to shoot a lot, I shot
38 special in my 357. Much easier on the body of the shooter.


Yes it is, I did that too. One thing to be careful of is
that the shorter cartridge will leave hard ring of fouling
up inside the chamber.

Dan Krueger wrote:
On a few occasions I've loaded my .357 with five .38's and one, final,
.357 for an unsuspecting friend at the range with interesting results.


That's also an excellent way to cure "trigger flinch." I
used to load up some very light rounds and some fairly heavy
rounds, mix them at random in a speed-loader, and fire them
off. Helps keep coordination as your hand gets fatigued, and
cures (or prevents the start of) bad habits.

Regards
Doug King

On Tue, 14 Feb 2006 00:20:53 GMT, Dan Krueger
wrote:

Calif Bill wrote:
"Steven Shelikoff" wrote in message
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On Sat, 11 Feb 2006 21:59:10 GMT, "Calif Bill"
wrote:


"Steven Shelikoff" wrote in message
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On Sat, 11 Feb 2006 01:15:46 GMT, Dan Krueger
wrote:


Skipper wrote:

The 9mm is for pansies. Real men pack the .454 Casull magnum, the most
powerful handgun in the world.

http://tinyurl.com/8xcnc

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Skipper

How do YOU define "most powerful"? Do you know anything about handguns?
If you are considering just the size of the bullet, look here...

http://www.israeli-weapons.com/weapo...ert_Eagle.html

or here...

http://www.tcarms.com/TC_HTML/TC_G2_Pistol_CalChart.htm

I have a Magnum Research Lone Eagle in 30-06. That's one damn powerful
handgun, much more so than a .454. I also have a 30-30 barrel for it so
I can take my Winchester 94 in 30-30 and the pistol and they can both
use the same ammo.

Steve

The problem is the barrel length. The rifle cartridge is set up for a
burn
of about 14-16 inches of barrel length. Smokeless powder is a propellant,
not an explosive. You are still having bunches of unburned powder as the
bullet leaves the barrel. Lots of flash. Years ago, I had a Rugar 30
Carbine shooting pistol. If you did not kill the animal, you burned it
alive with the muzzle blast.

Unless you reload it yourself and set it up for a shorter burn time.
Not that I bother to do that though. However, while it's true you lose
some power in the shorter barrel, it's not as bad as you might think
since the powder doesn't burn at an even rate. Most of it burns
quickly. Also, while I forget the exact barrel length, it's not all
that much shorter than a rifle, maybe something like 10". That's
because you don't have the stock or the receiver behind the cartridge
adding that extra length. Except for maybe 1.5" for the cannon breech
plus the length of the brass, the entire length of the pistol is usable
barrel. (unless you use the muzzle brake, which is higly recommended
for 30-06 but not really needed for 30-30.)

At any rate, even though due to the shorter barrel you lose some of the
power when compared to a rifle, it's still way more than a .454 casul

http://www.kitsune.addr.com/Firearms...Lone_Eagle.htm

Steve


Maybe I am a wimp, or just cheap. When I used to shoot a lot, I shot 38
special in my 357. Much easier on the body of the shooter.



On a few occasions I've loaded my .357 with five .38's and one, final,
.357 for an unsuspecting friend at the range with interesting results.

Dan

When my brother, while a cop, taught me the fine art of shooting a
revolver, that was a trick he used also. It keeps one from tightening up to
handle the .357 recoil.
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'Til next time,

John H

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Deer hunter...there's something inherently amusing about that phrase...a
false implication of mystery, danger, intrigue, skill...

Sorry...I see too many deer crossing the woods on my property to think
it requires any particular high-level skill to shoot and kill one with a
gun. I could use my upper level French door opening as a "stand," and
shoot one deer after another from 100 yards away.

Apparently you never had the opportunity to hunt with John Kerry.
Remember he takes his double barrel shotgun and crawls through the
woods on his hands and knees in order to sneak up on them - whatta
man.

On Tue, 14 Feb 2006 00:42:20 GMT, Shortwave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Mon, 13 Feb 2006 19:33:58 -0500, DSK wrote:

Dan Krueger wrote:
On a few occasions I've loaded my .357 with five .38's and one, final,
.357 for an unsuspecting friend at the range with interesting results.

That's also an excellent way to cure "trigger flinch." I
used to load up some very light rounds and some fairly heavy
rounds, mix them at random in a speed-loader, and fire them
off. Helps keep coordination as your hand gets fatigued, and
cures (or prevents the start of) bad habits.

My youngest had a problem with that and we went to the local shooting
range where the instructor who runs it is a former Marine pistol
instructor.

That's exactly what he did - I had never heard of it before.

Neat technique.
When I was on a rifle team we used to shoot in pairs on occasion - one
loads the other shoots. Sometimes you load, sometimes you don't.
Really points out flinching.