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K. Smith wrote: wrote: you claimed you couldn't find any failed E-Tecs so in 2 minutes I rustled up pages of them for you, but you just ignored them. Same story with Matt he claims to want to know but then .............. doesn't. the pages you showed didnt convince me there are problems with ETec .. the one claiming that several blew up at a tournament didnt have much credibility to me .. I have no idea about who's credible & which isn't but I do know the dealers endlessly post spruiking falsehoods & have no credibility at all. Well .. it was a post by someone that so many ETecs had blown up ... the way it was presented on that BB and nowhere else mentioned did not seem credible to me ... As for Tom have you watched him??? hows his claims now??? if he is full of it on the fuel what else is the same?? If you are a real boater have a look at his hours usage claims??? they are way out there given the time he spends on this NG with his football & camera stroies & other sundry boring OT posts. Given we know how long it took to actually get the engines he claimns are his he must be leaving them idling in the slip??? everything he says is suss I say. I agree .. Tom's fuel use claims do seem to need some recalculating ... The only useable fuel use data is gph over mph and gph over rpm .. thats how i present mine ... The other smaller issues I beleive but its nothing related to the 2DFI technology ... Matt you have been dealer convinced that E-Tec "has" a track record because that's how the dealers have been told to sell sell sell, but they don't!!! They were taking orders & not delivering in quantities till your last season, so give it time & the lean detonation will get them again. All their "fixes" are for the symptoms none even admit much less address the real issue. ETecs had issues with the transition period, cold weahter and oil not flowing from the reservoir ... those are things that can be addressed .... The real issue is if there is a systematic fault in the design which will lead to Kabooms So far the Etec does seem to be holding up ... that doesnt mean the fuel use claims are holding up to the expectations ... they really dont seem to and there are some facts to substantiate that. Facts for kabooms are still missing I have linked several sites to failures in the past but as you know the sites got humpy, assuming you can't read???? after all they don't want to upset the dealers:-) There were I believe 2 links to kabooms .. one did not seem credible to me which leaves one report of a kaboom which is not good but does not prove a design issue. On another note ... how many kaboomed 4 strokes do we see? And how many kaboomed conv. 2 strokes do we see? I wonder how different the numbers are .. Have we heard of a Honda kaboom ? Or yamaha 4 stroke kaboom? As sad as it sounds but we will have to accept a certain (small!) percentage of kabooms with any motor .. a concern would be if a particular motor or design has significantly more failures .. A different question I would like to raise are the Verado ... what do we think of it? It is a little heavy and for my taste to overloaded with gadgetry like drive by wire, intercoolers and cherger ... these are components that are just waiting to cause trouble ... I agree with you that the 2DFI is complicated to design and has the potential for issues. The big question remains if that is under control . Matt |
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