K. Smith wrote:
Reggie Smithers wrote:
K. Smith wrote:

Reggie Smithers wrote:


Karen,
For me the fallacy in your argument is that over the years we have
seen numerous people make posts in rec.boats and the other boating
NGs whenever they feel they have been slighted by a manufacturer. I
can not remember one complaint about Ficht and Etec, even with the
problems they had initially.

I would still look at a 4 stroke and compare the weight, gas
consumption
and sound levels between the 4 stroke and Etec, but I can not find
anything in the last few years that validates your premise.


Honestly Reggie there have been heaps here in this NG, at the time
there were even Ficht specific boards, damn in texas apparently they
were putting up bill boards (how appropriate!!) saying Ficht sucks!!
(don't cross the good ol' boys) but you don't seem motivated to find
them, you claimed you couldn't find any failed E-Tecs so in 2 minutes
I rustled up pages of them for you, but you just ignored them. Same
story with Matt he claims to want to know but then ..............
doesn't.

I know you want me to spoon feed you but it's OK I don't have
anything to prove, however note this is a re-run of Ficht using Ficht
& you don't even take the idiots to task!!!! What you think they'll
be your friends?? believe me when it happens again they'll dump you &
run away as they did last time, with your money also if you're silly
enough.

What say you of the E-tec, 11gph @ 35mph??? from the king of the OT
posts, or when Del posts the actual news you sit back & let the
world's biggest non boating nuff nuff liar Krause come out with the
wrong boat story!!!;-) Damn they said that exact same thing about
Ficht!!! I promise you:-) when they had worn out the "it's the oil",
"it's the fuel", "it's the owner", they then said "it's the
boat!!":-) Did you like the fuel BS'ter's rejoinder?? "bull" Honestly
this place is a hoot, again thanks to all.



K

Karen,
I can find problems related to the 1998-2000 model years. I can not
find any on the newer models. As far as "making friends", I really
don't care if someone likes me or not, but I am not interested in
getting into a ****ing contest with anyone, since it does nothing to
further boating discussions. While some people might prefer to
respond to your posts with flames, I have always kept the discussion
on topic.

Since these forums discussing the problems with the 2001-2005
Ficht/Etec problems are readily available, can you point me to a few
of them? You should be able to find a few much quicker than it takes
you to type your average post.


Reggie I accept you're genuine & that's fine but there were no Fichts
from 2001 other than the ones dumped on the unsustecting at give away
prices. Despite the BS about E-Tecs been marketed for 3 yrs that's just
more of the same dealer BS as I suspect you know.

Your last season is the only time they have actually started to market
AND deliver quantities of E-Tec & given that fact the failures being
reported even just in the examples I pasted or linked for you, confirms
to me you or anyone can & should have their own opinion of course, that
this is exactly as I saw with Ficht MK1; as then I say the same will
apply, way too high a failure rate because of lean at power, poor
atomisation, for a loopy injector, hopelessly too low injection pressure
& oiling that is just not even close to being safe.

Note I don't say every one will fail just as not every single aero
engine that is habitually run lean by zealous owners/renters will, but
enough will fail that it's not worth the risk.

I will post more examples as & when I think they will support my cause,
which is to be in this open forum commenting on & saying what I think
about boating related issues.

When I post things please disagree with your reasons for doing so, but
if it's just more of the rah rah we love E-Tec stuff or dealer groupie
hate Karen stuff them I can't really help.

Be aware Bill will never admit to any failures or shortcomings, remember
he was claiming right up to the bitter end of OMC that everything was
fine with Ficht & people should keep buying, even when people were in
this NG with horrendous problems & his advice was usually in essence
"take if to a franchise dealer" why????because it transpired later that
they were on a 30% kickback to keep flogging them!!!!

Why is an over grown whipper snipper motor more expensive than a proper
4 stroke OB of same HP? or even a medium sized car??? because I'd
suggest the only way they could get the dealers to sell this crap again
was to convince them they'd get agg. kickbacks so huge they'd recoup
their losses when OMC rolled over. So feed a dealer if you want but be
careful these are wild feral animals & will have you as a snack the
moment you start to trust them.

K
Karen,
As I stated, I have no desire to push any agenda. I am seriously
interested in reading about some of these disgruntled owners of Ficht
and Etec. I have not been able to find these sites, which should be
very easy if this was a unusual problem.

Since this is a non moderated forum, you have ever right to post
anything you want, factual or fiction, but if would help your cause if
you could document this problem with some web sites confirming your
suspension's. Since you have not posted any, it would seem you have had
as much problem as I have finding posts or web sites documented these
problems, with the exception of the 1999-2001 models. If your theory is
correct, after 5 years, there should be a large volume of engine
failures and frustrated owners.

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Reggie
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That's my story and I am sticking to it.

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