"thunder" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 01 Feb 2006 13:42:29 +0000, NOYB wrote:


Breakthroughs on this and other new technologies will help us reach
another great goal: to replace more than 75 percent of our oil imports
from the Middle East by 2025.

I don't want to rain on your parade, but do you know how much of our oil
imports come from the middle east? Now if he had said 75% of all our
imports . . .


I don't believe the continuation of oil imported from Canada and Mexico is
particularly in jeopardy. But the Middle East is a powder keg.

Europe gets 30% of its oil from the Middle East, and Japan gets 2/3 of its
oil from there. If the Middle East falls into total chaos, and al Qaeda
gets control of the oil, the ripple effect felt here would be horrendous.

There's not just a US oil market. There's a world oil market. And a
problem in one supply area affects prices everywhere.

"Mys Terry" wrote in message
...

Woo Hoo!



I see the boys from the Wild, Wild West show have dropped in for a visit.
:-)

RCE

"DSK" wrote in message
...
Thanks, Bill, the prosecutor wants more evidence that you're stalking.
Following me to other newsgroups is great!


NOYB wrote:
Excellent! Glad to see you have a fan base (not!) elsewhere.

You're following the Karl Rove principle that the enemy of your enemy is
your friend, right?

You're not my enemy, Doug. I consider you more like my "project".

"RCE" wrote in message
...

"Mys Terry" wrote in message
...

Woo Hoo!



I see the boys from the Wild, Wild West show have dropped in for a visit.
:-)

RCE



Just foul mouthed Rusty RedCloud using a new handle.

NOYB wrote:
You're not my enemy, Doug. I consider you more like my "project".


I don't consider you an enemy either... you've too good a
sense of humor.

But as for being a project, I'm too old to become an
indoctrinated socialist true-believer!

DSK

On Wed, 01 Feb 2006 15:27:28 GMT, Mys Terry
wrote:

So, there is no prosecutor. Poor Douggles. Another fantasy bites the
dust.

=============================

Some of the phrasing reminds me of JaxAshby. He was from the New York
area if my memory is correct.

On Wed, 01 Feb 2006 16:26:57 +0000, NOYB wrote:


"thunder" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 01 Feb 2006 13:42:29 +0000, NOYB wrote:


Breakthroughs on this and other new technologies will help us reach
another great goal: to replace more than 75 percent of our oil imports
from the Middle East by 2025.

I don't want to rain on your parade, but do you know how much of our
oil imports come from the middle east? Now if he had said 75% of all
our imports . . .


I don't believe the continuation of oil imported from Canada and Mexico
is particularly in jeopardy. But the Middle East is a powder keg.

Europe gets 30% of its oil from the Middle East, and Japan gets 2/3 of
its oil from there. If the Middle East falls into total chaos, and al
Qaeda gets control of the oil, the ripple effect felt here would be
horrendous.

There's not just a US oil market. There's a world oil market. And a
problem in one supply area affects prices everywhere.

I'm not denying that, but if memory serves, we get around 12% of our oil
from the middle east. Cutting that my 75% is better that a sharp stick in
the eye, but it ain't going to change the oil situation by very much.

I also have my doubts about ethanol. Our agriculture sector is very oil
intensive, fertilizers, tractors, transport, etc. It's my limited
understanding that there isn't much of an oil savings by using ethanol.

"thunder" wrote in message
...

I also have my doubts about ethanol. Our agriculture sector is very oil
intensive, fertilizers, tractors, transport, etc. It's my limited
understanding that there isn't much of an oil savings by using ethanol.

Plus, ethanol is proving to have a bigger pollution problem than gas.

RCE

Mys Terry wrote:
On Wed, 01 Feb 2006 12:00:17 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:


On Wed, 01 Feb 2006 15:27:28 GMT, Mys Terry
wrote:


So, there is no prosecutor. Poor Douggles. Another fantasy bites the
dust.

=============================

Some of the phrasing reminds me of JaxAshby. He was from the New York
area if my memory is correct.


Oh, lordy!


Damn..you don't plan to post pictures of you in a Speedo again, do you?

"thunder" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 01 Feb 2006 16:26:57 +0000, NOYB wrote:


"thunder" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 01 Feb 2006 13:42:29 +0000, NOYB wrote:


Breakthroughs on this and other new technologies will help us reach
another great goal: to replace more than 75 percent of our oil imports
from the Middle East by 2025.

I don't want to rain on your parade, but do you know how much of our
oil imports come from the middle east? Now if he had said 75% of all
our imports . . .


I don't believe the continuation of oil imported from Canada and Mexico
is particularly in jeopardy. But the Middle East is a powder keg.

Europe gets 30% of its oil from the Middle East, and Japan gets 2/3 of
its oil from there. If the Middle East falls into total chaos, and al
Qaeda gets control of the oil, the ripple effect felt here would be
horrendous.

There's not just a US oil market. There's a world oil market. And a
problem in one supply area affects prices everywhere.

I'm not denying that, but if memory serves, we get around 12% of our oil
from the middle east.

I believe it's 20%...but I'll have to check.

Cutting that my 75% is better that a sharp stick in
the eye, but it ain't going to change the oil situation by very much.


Sure it would. We consume 20,000,000 barrels per day.

20% of 20 million is 400,000 barrels/day. There are probably only two dozen
other countries that consume more than that in a day.



I also have my doubts about ethanol. Our agriculture sector is very oil
intensive, fertilizers, tractors, transport, etc. It's my limited
understanding that there isn't much of an oil savings by using ethanol.

I believe I heard that too.