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JimH February 1st 06 01:48 AM

OT A computer virus heads up
 
==========================
The clock is ticking on a dangerous computer virus programmed to delete
millions of Word files stored on PCs when it reaches the end of its
countdown on Friday.

Experts have warned that the Blackworm virus, which has also been named
Blackmal, Nyxem, MyWife and Tearec, could destroy vast amounts of
information when it is triggered, and could send unprotected businesses into
chaos. The malicious software strikes against machines powered by
Microsoft's near-ubiquitous Windows software.

According to SANS, the US-based internet security organisation, by January
26 around 300,000 computer systems, made up of potentially millions of
individual PCs, had already been infected by the virus. The organisation
said: "This worm is different and more serious than other worms for a number
of reasons. In particular, it will overwrite a user's files on February 3."

The list of file-types that the virus will hit and delete includes the most
commonly-used formats, including Word, Powerpoint and Excel documents.
===================================

More at http://tinyurl.com/at299



Don White February 1st 06 01:51 AM

OT A computer virus heads up
 
JimH wrote:
==========================
The clock is ticking on a dangerous computer virus programmed to delete
millions of Word files stored on PCs when it reaches the end of its
countdown on Friday.

Experts have warned that the Blackworm virus, which has also been named
Blackmal, Nyxem, MyWife and Tearec, could destroy vast amounts of
information when it is triggered, and could send unprotected businesses into
chaos. The malicious software strikes against machines powered by
Microsoft's near-ubiquitous Windows software.

According to SANS, the US-based internet security organisation, by January
26 around 300,000 computer systems, made up of potentially millions of
individual PCs, had already been infected by the virus. The organisation
said: "This worm is different and more serious than other worms for a number
of reasons. In particular, it will overwrite a user's files on February 3."

The list of file-types that the virus will hit and delete includes the most
commonly-used formats, including Word, Powerpoint and Excel documents.
===================================

More at http://tinyurl.com/at299


Looks like the anti-virus people need more cash.

JimH February 1st 06 01:57 AM

OT A computer virus heads up
 

"Don White" wrote in message
...
JimH wrote:
==========================
The clock is ticking on a dangerous computer virus programmed to delete
millions of Word files stored on PCs when it reaches the end of its
countdown on Friday.

Experts have warned that the Blackworm virus, which has also been named
Blackmal, Nyxem, MyWife and Tearec, could destroy vast amounts of
information when it is triggered, and could send unprotected businesses
into chaos. The malicious software strikes against machines powered by
Microsoft's near-ubiquitous Windows software.

According to SANS, the US-based internet security organisation, by
January 26 around 300,000 computer systems, made up of potentially
millions of individual PCs, had already been infected by the virus. The
organisation said: "This worm is different and more serious than other
worms for a number of reasons. In particular, it will overwrite a user's
files on February 3."

The list of file-types that the virus will hit and delete includes the
most commonly-used formats, including Word, Powerpoint and Excel
documents.
===================================

More at http://tinyurl.com/at299

Looks like the anti-virus people need more cash.


I use Avast. It is free and updates the virus definitions daily
automatically.

AVG is also a very good antivirus program........also free.

No need to purchase an antivirus program these days.



Reggie Smithers February 1st 06 12:17 PM

OT A computer virus heads up
 
JimH wrote:
==========================
The clock is ticking on a dangerous computer virus programmed to delete
millions of Word files stored on PCs when it reaches the end of its
countdown on Friday.

Experts have warned that the Blackworm virus, which has also been named
Blackmal, Nyxem, MyWife and Tearec, could destroy vast amounts of
information when it is triggered, and could send unprotected businesses into
chaos. The malicious software strikes against machines powered by
Microsoft's near-ubiquitous Windows software.

According to SANS, the US-based internet security organisation, by January
26 around 300,000 computer systems, made up of potentially millions of
individual PCs, had already been infected by the virus. The organisation
said: "This worm is different and more serious than other worms for a number
of reasons. In particular, it will overwrite a user's files on February 3."

The list of file-types that the virus will hit and delete includes the most
commonly-used formats, including Word, Powerpoint and Excel documents.
===================================

More at http://tinyurl.com/at299



Here is a removal tool. Since the worm "turns off" your antivirus
software, it makes sense for everyone to run a specific removal tool.

http://securityresponse.symantec.com...oval.tool.html


--
Reggie
************************************************** *************
That's my story and I am sticking to it.

************************************************** *************

Doug Kanter February 1st 06 12:22 PM

OT A computer virus heads up
 

" JimH" jimh_osudad@yahooDOT comREMOVETHIS wrote in message
. ..

"Don White" wrote in message
...
JimH wrote:
==========================
The clock is ticking on a dangerous computer virus programmed to delete
millions of Word files stored on PCs when it reaches the end of its
countdown on Friday.

Experts have warned that the Blackworm virus, which has also been named
Blackmal, Nyxem, MyWife and Tearec, could destroy vast amounts of
information when it is triggered, and could send unprotected businesses
into chaos. The malicious software strikes against machines powered by
Microsoft's near-ubiquitous Windows software.

According to SANS, the US-based internet security organisation, by
January 26 around 300,000 computer systems, made up of potentially
millions of individual PCs, had already been infected by the virus. The
organisation said: "This worm is different and more serious than other
worms for a number of reasons. In particular, it will overwrite a user's
files on February 3."

The list of file-types that the virus will hit and delete includes the
most commonly-used formats, including Word, Powerpoint and Excel
documents.
===================================

More at http://tinyurl.com/at299

Looks like the anti-virus people need more cash.


I use Avast. It is free and updates the virus definitions daily
automatically.

AVG is also a very good antivirus program........also free.

No need to purchase an antivirus program these days.


What is your backup strategy?



[email protected] February 1st 06 12:52 PM

OT A computer virus heads up
 

Reggie Smithers wrote:
JimH wrote:
==========================
The clock is ticking on a dangerous computer virus programmed to delete
millions of Word files stored on PCs when it reaches the end of its
countdown on Friday.

Experts have warned that the Blackworm virus, which has also been named
Blackmal, Nyxem, MyWife and Tearec, could destroy vast amounts of
information when it is triggered, and could send unprotected businesses into
chaos. The malicious software strikes against machines powered by
Microsoft's near-ubiquitous Windows software.

According to SANS, the US-based internet security organisation, by January
26 around 300,000 computer systems, made up of potentially millions of
individual PCs, had already been infected by the virus. The organisation
said: "This worm is different and more serious than other worms for a number
of reasons. In particular, it will overwrite a user's files on February 3."

The list of file-types that the virus will hit and delete includes the most
commonly-used formats, including Word, Powerpoint and Excel documents.
===================================

More at http://tinyurl.com/at299



Here is a removal tool. Since the worm "turns off" your antivirus
software, it makes sense for everyone to run a specific removal tool.

http://securityresponse.symantec.com...oval.tool.html


--
Reggie
************************************************** *************
That's my story and I am sticking to it.

************************************************** *************


Reggie, from what I understand, if your Norton or other popular
software is up to date, it will catch it before it turns off your
anitvirus software.


Reggie Smithers February 1st 06 01:22 PM

OT A computer virus heads up
 
wrote:
Reggie Smithers wrote:
JimH wrote:
==========================
The clock is ticking on a dangerous computer virus programmed to delete
millions of Word files stored on PCs when it reaches the end of its
countdown on Friday.

Experts have warned that the Blackworm virus, which has also been named
Blackmal, Nyxem, MyWife and Tearec, could destroy vast amounts of
information when it is triggered, and could send unprotected businesses into
chaos. The malicious software strikes against machines powered by
Microsoft's near-ubiquitous Windows software.

According to SANS, the US-based internet security organisation, by January
26 around 300,000 computer systems, made up of potentially millions of
individual PCs, had already been infected by the virus. The organisation
said: "This worm is different and more serious than other worms for a number
of reasons. In particular, it will overwrite a user's files on February 3."

The list of file-types that the virus will hit and delete includes the most
commonly-used formats, including Word, Powerpoint and Excel documents.
===================================

More at
http://tinyurl.com/at299


Here is a removal tool. Since the worm "turns off" your antivirus
software, it makes sense for everyone to run a specific removal tool.

http://securityresponse.symantec.com...oval.tool.html


--
Reggie
************************************************** *************
That's my story and I am sticking to it.

************************************************** *************


Reggie, from what I understand, if your Norton or other popular
software is up to date, it will catch it before it turns off your
anitvirus software.

Bassy,
If you were infected before your antivirus included blackmal in it's
database you could still be infected. Since no one will know until 2/3
it is a simply strategy to run the removal tool.

My wife's office was infected with a spyware worm that turned off
Norton, and you had to go in and manual deleted the start up line and
the reinstall file to get rid of the worm. The Spyware Worm would
overload your computer with so much spyware that it would slow down to a
crawl then finally freeze up. When they ran Ad-Aware there was over
3000 processes running. None of the antispyware packages were able to
removal the worm. The hardest part is the start up line was a random
generated file name, and the file it used to generated the file used a
legitimate file name installed as part of windows.

As a courtesy, they spyware worm offered to sell you a spyware package
to remove the worm.

--
Reggie
************************************************** *************
That's my story and I am sticking to it.

************************************************** *************

JimH February 1st 06 01:38 PM

OT A computer virus heads up
 

"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 31 Jan 2006 20:57:23 -0500, " JimH" jimh_osudad@yahooDOT
comREMOVETHIS wrote:


"Don White" wrote in message
...
JimH wrote:
==========================
The clock is ticking on a dangerous computer virus programmed to delete
millions of Word files stored on PCs when it reaches the end of its
countdown on Friday.

Experts have warned that the Blackworm virus, which has also been named
Blackmal, Nyxem, MyWife and Tearec, could destroy vast amounts of
information when it is triggered, and could send unprotected businesses
into chaos. The malicious software strikes against machines powered by
Microsoft's near-ubiquitous Windows software.

According to SANS, the US-based internet security organisation, by
January 26 around 300,000 computer systems, made up of potentially
millions of individual PCs, had already been infected by the virus. The
organisation said: "This worm is different and more serious than other
worms for a number of reasons. In particular, it will overwrite a
user's
files on February 3."

The list of file-types that the virus will hit and delete includes the
most commonly-used formats, including Word, Powerpoint and Excel
documents.
===================================

More at http://tinyurl.com/at299
Looks like the anti-virus people need more cash.


I use Avast. It is free and updates the virus definitions daily
automatically.

AVG is also a very good antivirus program........also free.

No need to purchase an antivirus program these days.


you trust a free antivirus program?

well good for you.


Sure do. And reviews of antivirus programs shows those 2 are amongst the
best.



JimH February 1st 06 01:39 PM

OT A computer virus heads up
 

"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 01 Feb 2006 12:22:50 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:


" JimH" jimh_osudad@yahooDOT comREMOVETHIS wrote in message
m...

"Don White" wrote in message
...
JimH wrote:
==========================
The clock is ticking on a dangerous computer virus programmed to
delete
millions of Word files stored on PCs when it reaches the end of its
countdown on Friday.

Experts have warned that the Blackworm virus, which has also been
named
Blackmal, Nyxem, MyWife and Tearec, could destroy vast amounts of
information when it is triggered, and could send unprotected
businesses
into chaos. The malicious software strikes against machines powered by
Microsoft's near-ubiquitous Windows software.

According to SANS, the US-based internet security organisation, by
January 26 around 300,000 computer systems, made up of potentially
millions of individual PCs, had already been infected by the virus.
The
organisation said: "This worm is different and more serious than other
worms for a number of reasons. In particular, it will overwrite a
user's
files on February 3."

The list of file-types that the virus will hit and delete includes the
most commonly-used formats, including Word, Powerpoint and Excel
documents.
===================================

More at http://tinyurl.com/at299
Looks like the anti-virus people need more cash.

I use Avast. It is free and updates the virus definitions daily
automatically.

AVG is also a very good antivirus program........also free.

No need to purchase an antivirus program these days.


What is your backup strategy?


more free software?


Sorry but you don't know what the hell you are talking about.



Doug Kanter February 1st 06 02:05 PM

OT A computer virus heads up
 

" JimH" jimh_osudad@yahooDOT comREMOVETHIS wrote in message
...

"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 01 Feb 2006 12:22:50 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:


" JimH" jimh_osudad@yahooDOT comREMOVETHIS wrote in message
om...

"Don White" wrote in message
...
JimH wrote:
==========================
The clock is ticking on a dangerous computer virus programmed to
delete
millions of Word files stored on PCs when it reaches the end of its
countdown on Friday.

Experts have warned that the Blackworm virus, which has also been
named
Blackmal, Nyxem, MyWife and Tearec, could destroy vast amounts of
information when it is triggered, and could send unprotected
businesses
into chaos. The malicious software strikes against machines powered
by
Microsoft's near-ubiquitous Windows software.

According to SANS, the US-based internet security organisation, by
January 26 around 300,000 computer systems, made up of potentially
millions of individual PCs, had already been infected by the virus.
The
organisation said: "This worm is different and more serious than
other
worms for a number of reasons. In particular, it will overwrite a
user's
files on February 3."

The list of file-types that the virus will hit and delete includes
the
most commonly-used formats, including Word, Powerpoint and Excel
documents.
===================================

More at http://tinyurl.com/at299
Looks like the anti-virus people need more cash.

I use Avast. It is free and updates the virus definitions daily
automatically.

AVG is also a very good antivirus program........also free.

No need to purchase an antivirus program these days.

What is your backup strategy?


more free software?


Sorry but you don't know what the hell you are talking about.


What is your backup strategy?



JimH February 1st 06 02:10 PM

OT A computer virus heads up
 

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...

" JimH" jimh_osudad@yahooDOT comREMOVETHIS wrote in message
...

"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 01 Feb 2006 12:22:50 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:


" JimH" jimh_osudad@yahooDOT comREMOVETHIS wrote in message
news:Kr2dnUawZPcbiH3enZ2dnUVZ_vmdnZ2d@comcast. com...

"Don White" wrote in message
...
JimH wrote:
==========================
The clock is ticking on a dangerous computer virus programmed to
delete
millions of Word files stored on PCs when it reaches the end of its
countdown on Friday.

Experts have warned that the Blackworm virus, which has also been
named
Blackmal, Nyxem, MyWife and Tearec, could destroy vast amounts of
information when it is triggered, and could send unprotected
businesses
into chaos. The malicious software strikes against machines powered
by
Microsoft's near-ubiquitous Windows software.

According to SANS, the US-based internet security organisation, by
January 26 around 300,000 computer systems, made up of potentially
millions of individual PCs, had already been infected by the virus.
The
organisation said: "This worm is different and more serious than
other
worms for a number of reasons. In particular, it will overwrite a
user's
files on February 3."

The list of file-types that the virus will hit and delete includes
the
most commonly-used formats, including Word, Powerpoint and Excel
documents.
===================================

More at http://tinyurl.com/at299
Looks like the anti-virus people need more cash.

I use Avast. It is free and updates the virus definitions daily
automatically.

AVG is also a very good antivirus program........also free.

No need to purchase an antivirus program these days.

What is your backup strategy?

more free software?


Sorry but you don't know what the hell you are talking about.


What is your backup strategy?


I have an external hard drive that I do a full backup to weekly using
Acronis. I store my music and photo files on a partition on my hard drive
and on the external hard drive.

How about you?



Doug Kanter February 1st 06 02:14 PM

OT A computer virus heads up
 
"Reggie Smithers" wrote in message
...
wrote:
Reggie Smithers wrote:
JimH wrote:
==========================
The clock is ticking on a dangerous computer virus programmed to delete
millions of Word files stored on PCs when it reaches the end of its
countdown on Friday.

Experts have warned that the Blackworm virus, which has also been named
Blackmal, Nyxem, MyWife and Tearec, could destroy vast amounts of
information when it is triggered, and could send unprotected businesses
into
chaos. The malicious software strikes against machines powered by
Microsoft's near-ubiquitous Windows software.

According to SANS, the US-based internet security organisation, by
January
26 around 300,000 computer systems, made up of potentially millions of
individual PCs, had already been infected by the virus. The
organisation
said: "This worm is different and more serious than other worms for a
number
of reasons. In particular, it will overwrite a user's files on February
3."

The list of file-types that the virus will hit and delete includes the
most
commonly-used formats, including Word, Powerpoint and Excel documents.
===================================

More at
http://tinyurl.com/at299


Here is a removal tool. Since the worm "turns off" your antivirus
software, it makes sense for everyone to run a specific removal tool.

http://securityresponse.symantec.com...oval.tool.html


--
Reggie
************************************************** *************
That's my story and I am sticking to it.

************************************************** *************


Reggie, from what I understand, if your Norton or other popular
software is up to date, it will catch it before it turns off your
anitvirus software.

Bassy,
If you were infected before your antivirus included blackmal in it's
database you could still be infected. Since no one will know until 2/3 it
is a simply strategy to run the removal tool.


Then, it's your fault for not noticing that your AV software isn't working.
No matter what anyone tells you, it's not "set it and forget it". You need
to consciously focus on it once a week or so. Or daily, if your computer is
used to earn money.



Doug Kanter February 1st 06 02:28 PM

OT A computer virus heads up
 

" JimH" jimh_osudad@yahooDOT comREMOVETHIS wrote in message
. ..

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...

" JimH" jimh_osudad@yahooDOT comREMOVETHIS wrote in message
...

"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 01 Feb 2006 12:22:50 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:


" JimH" jimh_osudad@yahooDOT comREMOVETHIS wrote in message
news:Kr2dnUawZPcbiH3enZ2dnUVZ_vmdnZ2d@comcast .com...

"Don White" wrote in message
...
JimH wrote:
==========================
The clock is ticking on a dangerous computer virus programmed to
delete
millions of Word files stored on PCs when it reaches the end of its
countdown on Friday.

Experts have warned that the Blackworm virus, which has also been
named
Blackmal, Nyxem, MyWife and Tearec, could destroy vast amounts of
information when it is triggered, and could send unprotected
businesses
into chaos. The malicious software strikes against machines powered
by
Microsoft's near-ubiquitous Windows software.

According to SANS, the US-based internet security organisation, by
January 26 around 300,000 computer systems, made up of potentially
millions of individual PCs, had already been infected by the virus.
The
organisation said: "This worm is different and more serious than
other
worms for a number of reasons. In particular, it will overwrite a
user's
files on February 3."

The list of file-types that the virus will hit and delete includes
the
most commonly-used formats, including Word, Powerpoint and Excel
documents.
===================================

More at http://tinyurl.com/at299
Looks like the anti-virus people need more cash.

I use Avast. It is free and updates the virus definitions daily
automatically.

AVG is also a very good antivirus program........also free.

No need to purchase an antivirus program these days.

What is your backup strategy?

more free software?

Sorry but you don't know what the hell you are talking about.


What is your backup strategy?


I have an external hard drive that I do a full backup to weekly using
Acronis. I store my music and photo files on a partition on my hard drive
and on the external hard drive.

How about you?


Obsessive strategy, but this machine makes $$$$, so I have no choice.

Weekly: Full backup of all data and configuration files. These are done on
Travan-3 tapes, a set of 4, used sequentially.
Daily: Incremental backup (whatever's changed since the previous backup).
Set of 5 tapes, Monday-Friday.
Daily: Same data as in the daily tapes backups is sent via PCAnywhere to an
identically configured laptop.

No full disk backup is done because if the entire OS is fried that badly,
it's generally either impossible, or a waste of time to try and figure out
what the problem was. Better to simply reformat & reinstall, which is a good
housekeeping idea anyway, maybe once a year.

The weakest link in the plan is the potential for fire damage. When I was
working from an office, I'd take home some tapes and leave others at the
office. Now I work at home. Fire safes aren't the panacea we think they are.
And, there's no bank nearby with safe deposit boxes (unbelievable!).



Reggie Smithers February 1st 06 02:30 PM

OT A computer virus heads up
 
Doug Kanter wrote:
"Reggie Smithers" wrote in message
...
wrote:
Reggie Smithers wrote:
JimH wrote:
==========================
The clock is ticking on a dangerous computer virus programmed to delete
millions of Word files stored on PCs when it reaches the end of its
countdown on Friday.

Experts have warned that the Blackworm virus, which has also been named
Blackmal, Nyxem, MyWife and Tearec, could destroy vast amounts of
information when it is triggered, and could send unprotected businesses
into
chaos. The malicious software strikes against machines powered by
Microsoft's near-ubiquitous Windows software.

According to SANS, the US-based internet security organisation, by
January
26 around 300,000 computer systems, made up of potentially millions of
individual PCs, had already been infected by the virus. The
organisation
said: "This worm is different and more serious than other worms for a
number
of reasons. In particular, it will overwrite a user's files on February
3."

The list of file-types that the virus will hit and delete includes the
most
commonly-used formats, including Word, Powerpoint and Excel documents.
===================================

More at
http://tinyurl.com/at299


Here is a removal tool. Since the worm "turns off" your antivirus
software, it makes sense for everyone to run a specific removal tool.

http://securityresponse.symantec.com...oval.tool.html


--
Reggie
************************************************** *************
That's my story and I am sticking to it.

************************************************** *************
Reggie, from what I understand, if your Norton or other popular
software is up to date, it will catch it before it turns off your
anitvirus software.

Bassy,
If you were infected before your antivirus included blackmal in it's
database you could still be infected. Since no one will know until 2/3 it
is a simply strategy to run the removal tool.


Then, it's your fault for not noticing that your AV software isn't working.
No matter what anyone tells you, it's not "set it and forget it". You need
to consciously focus on it once a week or so. Or daily, if your computer is
used to earn money.


Doug,
I am lucky, I have never been infected with a virus or a worm, but I do
try to use a highly rated software package.

When the worm deactivated the antivirus, it still appears to be working.
The way to tell if your software is actually working is to run a eicar
test I would guess very few people run a eicar test on a regular basis.

--
Reggie
************************************************** *************
That's my story and I am sticking to it.

************************************************** *************

JimH February 1st 06 02:33 PM

OT A computer virus heads up
 

"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 01 Feb 2006 12:22:50 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:


" JimH" jimh_osudad@yahooDOT comREMOVETHIS wrote in message
m...

"Don White" wrote in message
...
JimH wrote:
==========================
The clock is ticking on a dangerous computer virus programmed to
delete
millions of Word files stored on PCs when it reaches the end of its
countdown on Friday.

Experts have warned that the Blackworm virus, which has also been
named
Blackmal, Nyxem, MyWife and Tearec, could destroy vast amounts of
information when it is triggered, and could send unprotected
businesses
into chaos. The malicious software strikes against machines powered by
Microsoft's near-ubiquitous Windows software.

According to SANS, the US-based internet security organisation, by
January 26 around 300,000 computer systems, made up of potentially
millions of individual PCs, had already been infected by the virus.
The
organisation said: "This worm is different and more serious than other
worms for a number of reasons. In particular, it will overwrite a
user's
files on February 3."

The list of file-types that the virus will hit and delete includes the
most commonly-used formats, including Word, Powerpoint and Excel
documents.
===================================

More at http://tinyurl.com/at299
Looks like the anti-virus people need more cash.

I use Avast. It is free and updates the virus definitions daily
automatically.

AVG is also a very good antivirus program........also free.

No need to purchase an antivirus program these days.


What is your backup strategy?


more free software?


How is the antivirus program you paid for better than a free copy of Avast
or AVG Tom? What program is it that you purchased and like so much?



thunder February 1st 06 02:59 PM

OT A computer virus heads up
 
On Wed, 01 Feb 2006 14:14:01 +0000, Doug Kanter wrote:


Then, it's your fault for not noticing that your AV software isn't
working.


Uh, what's AV software? Must be a Windows thing.

Sorry, I couldn't help myself. ;-)

Doug Kanter February 1st 06 03:01 PM

OT A computer virus heads up
 

" JimH" jimh_osudad@yahooDOT comREMOVETHIS wrote in message
. ..

"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 01 Feb 2006 12:22:50 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:


" JimH" jimh_osudad@yahooDOT comREMOVETHIS wrote in message
om...

"Don White" wrote in message
...
JimH wrote:
==========================
The clock is ticking on a dangerous computer virus programmed to
delete
millions of Word files stored on PCs when it reaches the end of its
countdown on Friday.

Experts have warned that the Blackworm virus, which has also been
named
Blackmal, Nyxem, MyWife and Tearec, could destroy vast amounts of
information when it is triggered, and could send unprotected
businesses
into chaos. The malicious software strikes against machines powered
by
Microsoft's near-ubiquitous Windows software.

According to SANS, the US-based internet security organisation, by
January 26 around 300,000 computer systems, made up of potentially
millions of individual PCs, had already been infected by the virus.
The
organisation said: "This worm is different and more serious than
other
worms for a number of reasons. In particular, it will overwrite a
user's
files on February 3."

The list of file-types that the virus will hit and delete includes
the
most commonly-used formats, including Word, Powerpoint and Excel
documents.
===================================

More at http://tinyurl.com/at299
Looks like the anti-virus people need more cash.

I use Avast. It is free and updates the virus definitions daily
automatically.

AVG is also a very good antivirus program........also free.

No need to purchase an antivirus program these days.

What is your backup strategy?


more free software?


How is the antivirus program you paid for better than a free copy of Avast
or AVG Tom? What program is it that you purchased and like so much?


Wasn't there already a 2,489,602 message thread about this back in November
or December?



Doug Kanter February 1st 06 03:02 PM

OT A computer virus heads up
 

"thunder" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 01 Feb 2006 14:14:01 +0000, Doug Kanter wrote:


Then, it's your fault for not noticing that your AV software isn't
working.


Uh, what's AV software? Must be a Windows thing.

Sorry, I couldn't help myself. ;-)


Well....yeah. I do actual work with this computer. :-) Open sauce programs
are too risky.



thunder February 1st 06 03:04 PM

OT A computer virus heads up
 
On Wed, 01 Feb 2006 09:10:49 -0500, JimH wrote:


I have an external hard drive that I do a full backup to weekly using
Acronis. I store my music and photo files on a partition on my hard drive
and on the external hard drive.


With a latent virus like this, you could have backed the virus up to that
external hard drive. Something to think about if your data is important.

JimH February 1st 06 03:18 PM

OT A computer virus heads up
 

"thunder" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 01 Feb 2006 09:10:49 -0500, JimH wrote:


I have an external hard drive that I do a full backup to weekly using
Acronis. I store my music and photo files on a partition on my hard
drive
and on the external hard drive.


With a latent virus like this, you could have backed the virus up to that
external hard drive. Something to think about if your data is important.


I run a virus scan prior to backing up.

Here is a nice tool from MS to run:

http://safety.live.com/

More he

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sec...ry/904420.mspx

http://www.windowsonecare.com/



JimH February 1st 06 03:44 PM

OT A computer virus heads up
 

"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 1 Feb 2006 09:33:44 -0500, " JimH" jimh_osudad@yahooDOT
comREMOVETHIS wrote:


"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
. ..
On Wed, 01 Feb 2006 12:22:50 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:


" JimH" jimh_osudad@yahooDOT comREMOVETHIS wrote in message
news:Kr2dnUawZPcbiH3enZ2dnUVZ_vmdnZ2d@comcast. com...

"Don White" wrote in message
...
JimH wrote:
==========================
The clock is ticking on a dangerous computer virus programmed to
delete
millions of Word files stored on PCs when it reaches the end of its
countdown on Friday.

Experts have warned that the Blackworm virus, which has also been
named
Blackmal, Nyxem, MyWife and Tearec, could destroy vast amounts of
information when it is triggered, and could send unprotected
businesses
into chaos. The malicious software strikes against machines powered
by
Microsoft's near-ubiquitous Windows software.

According to SANS, the US-based internet security organisation, by
January 26 around 300,000 computer systems, made up of potentially
millions of individual PCs, had already been infected by the virus.
The
organisation said: "This worm is different and more serious than
other
worms for a number of reasons. In particular, it will overwrite a
user's
files on February 3."

The list of file-types that the virus will hit and delete includes
the
most commonly-used formats, including Word, Powerpoint and Excel
documents.
===================================

More at http://tinyurl.com/at299
Looks like the anti-virus people need more cash.

I use Avast. It is free and updates the virus definitions daily
automatically.

AVG is also a very good antivirus program........also free.

No need to purchase an antivirus program these days.

What is your backup strategy?

more free software?


How is the antivirus program you paid for better than a free copy of Avast
or AVG Tom? What program is it that you purchased and like so much?


i didnt say anything about being better. im very glad that you are
confident enough in free antivirus software to use it.

more people should use free software - i mean its free - dont have to
contribute a dime right?

frees for me kind of thing?

good for you - more people should do like you do.


Yes they should. Just because it is free does not mean it is crap, and
certainly not in the case of the 2 *free* AV programs I mentioned.

Go ahead and throw your money away if it makes you feel better. I am glad
more people do not do like you do.




[email protected] February 1st 06 05:05 PM

OT A computer virus heads up
 

JimH wrote:
"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 1 Feb 2006 09:33:44 -0500, " JimH" jimh_osudad@yahooDOT
comREMOVETHIS wrote:


"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
. ..
On Wed, 01 Feb 2006 12:22:50 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:


" JimH" jimh_osudad@yahooDOT comREMOVETHIS wrote in message
news:Kr2dnUawZPcbiH3enZ2dnUVZ_vmdnZ2d@comcast. com...

"Don White" wrote in message
...
JimH wrote:
==========================
The clock is ticking on a dangerous computer virus programmed to
delete
millions of Word files stored on PCs when it reaches the end of its
countdown on Friday.

Experts have warned that the Blackworm virus, which has also been
named
Blackmal, Nyxem, MyWife and Tearec, could destroy vast amounts of
information when it is triggered, and could send unprotected
businesses
into chaos. The malicious software strikes against machines powered
by
Microsoft's near-ubiquitous Windows software.

According to SANS, the US-based internet security organisation, by
January 26 around 300,000 computer systems, made up of potentially
millions of individual PCs, had already been infected by the virus.
The
organisation said: "This worm is different and more serious than
other
worms for a number of reasons. In particular, it will overwrite a
user's
files on February 3."

The list of file-types that the virus will hit and delete includes
the
most commonly-used formats, including Word, Powerpoint and Excel
documents.
===================================

More at http://tinyurl.com/at299
Looks like the anti-virus people need more cash.

I use Avast. It is free and updates the virus definitions daily
automatically.

AVG is also a very good antivirus program........also free.

No need to purchase an antivirus program these days.

What is your backup strategy?

more free software?

How is the antivirus program you paid for better than a free copy of Avast
or AVG Tom? What program is it that you purchased and like so much?


i didnt say anything about being better. im very glad that you are
confident enough in free antivirus software to use it.

more people should use free software - i mean its free - dont have to
contribute a dime right?

frees for me kind of thing?

good for you - more people should do like you do.


Yes they should. Just because it is free does not mean it is crap, and
certainly not in the case of the 2 *free* AV programs I mentioned.

Go ahead and throw your money away if it makes you feel better. I am glad
more people do not do like you do.


AVG is considered one of the best out there.


[email protected] February 1st 06 05:08 PM

OT A computer virus heads up
 

Reggie Smithers wrote:
wrote:
Reggie Smithers wrote:
JimH wrote:
==========================
The clock is ticking on a dangerous computer virus programmed to delete
millions of Word files stored on PCs when it reaches the end of its
countdown on Friday.

Experts have warned that the Blackworm virus, which has also been named
Blackmal, Nyxem, MyWife and Tearec, could destroy vast amounts of
information when it is triggered, and could send unprotected businesses into
chaos. The malicious software strikes against machines powered by
Microsoft's near-ubiquitous Windows software.

According to SANS, the US-based internet security organisation, by January
26 around 300,000 computer systems, made up of potentially millions of
individual PCs, had already been infected by the virus. The organisation
said: "This worm is different and more serious than other worms for a number
of reasons. In particular, it will overwrite a user's files on February 3."

The list of file-types that the virus will hit and delete includes the most
commonly-used formats, including Word, Powerpoint and Excel documents.
===================================

More at
http://tinyurl.com/at299


Here is a removal tool. Since the worm "turns off" your antivirus
software, it makes sense for everyone to run a specific removal tool.

http://securityresponse.symantec.com...oval.tool.html


--
Reggie
************************************************** *************
That's my story and I am sticking to it.

************************************************** *************


Reggie, from what I understand, if your Norton or other popular
software is up to date, it will catch it before it turns off your
anitvirus software.

Bassy,
If you were infected before your antivirus included blackmal in it's
database you could still be infected. Since no one will know until 2/3
it is a simply strategy to run the removal tool.


Ah, got it! Thanks


Reggie Smithers February 1st 06 05:35 PM

OT A computer virus heads up
 
Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:
On Wed, 1 Feb 2006 10:44:26 -0500, " JimH" jimh_osudad@yahooDOT
comREMOVETHIS wrote:

"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 1 Feb 2006 09:33:44 -0500, " JimH" jimh_osudad@yahooDOT
comREMOVETHIS wrote:

"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 01 Feb 2006 12:22:50 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:

" JimH" jimh_osudad@yahooDOT comREMOVETHIS wrote in message
. ..
"Don White" wrote in message
...
JimH wrote:
==========================
The clock is ticking on a dangerous computer virus programmed to
delete
millions of Word files stored on PCs when it reaches the end of its
countdown on Friday.

Experts have warned that the Blackworm virus, which has also been
named
Blackmal, Nyxem, MyWife and Tearec, could destroy vast amounts of
information when it is triggered, and could send unprotected
businesses
into chaos. The malicious software strikes against machines powered
by
Microsoft's near-ubiquitous Windows software.

According to SANS, the US-based internet security organisation, by
January 26 around 300,000 computer systems, made up of potentially
millions of individual PCs, had already been infected by the virus.
The
organisation said: "This worm is different and more serious than
other
worms for a number of reasons. In particular, it will overwrite a
user's
files on February 3."

The list of file-types that the virus will hit and delete includes
the
most commonly-used formats, including Word, Powerpoint and Excel
documents.
===================================

More at http://tinyurl.com/at299
Looks like the anti-virus people need more cash.
I use Avast. It is free and updates the virus definitions daily
automatically.

AVG is also a very good antivirus program........also free.

No need to purchase an antivirus program these days.
What is your backup strategy?
more free software?
How is the antivirus program you paid for better than a free copy of Avast
or AVG Tom? What program is it that you purchased and like so much?
i didnt say anything about being better. im very glad that you are
confident enough in free antivirus software to use it.

more people should use free software - i mean its free - dont have to
contribute a dime right?

frees for me kind of thing?

good for you - more people should do like you do.

Yes they should. Just because it is free does not mean it is crap, and
certainly not in the case of the 2 *free* AV programs I mentioned.

Go ahead and throw your money away if it makes you feel better. I am glad
more people do not do like you do.


i dont consider it throwing it away at all.

im perfectly comfortable using symantec and i have for years - why
change? you are perfectly comfortable using a freebie - why change.

no worries. if somebody offers something for free, and it works,
thats a good thing. its just not something i trust.

i believe in the TANSTAAFL model - you dont.

no worries - to each their own.


"There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch"

--
Reggie
************************************************** *************
That's my story and I am sticking to it.

************************************************** *************

RCE February 1st 06 06:00 PM

OT A computer virus heads up
 

"Reggie Smithers" wrote in message
...

"There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch"

--
Reggie



Because I am currently bored, I tried that Microsoft SafetyLine link that
someone (JimH?) provided (thanks). I did the full scan doober (took a
while) and it reported my computer was fine, no viruses, no screwed up
files, no de-frag required. Everything is just hunky-dorey.

What's interesting to me is I have never, in all the years I've had a
computer and been on-line used any kind of anti-virus, anti-spyware,
anti-anything software. The only thing protecting this computer from the
cold, hard world is whatever firewall Microsoft uses in XP and whatever my
ISP firewall is. I tell people this and they are horrified - and they
advise me I am going to get hacked, mutilated, screwed and all kinds of
horrible things.
To date (knocking on wood) nothing has ever happened. In fact, the only
problem I encountered with this computer was after Microsoft did one of
those automatic updates, which I didn't know it was going to do until I shut
the computer off one day and it told me to wait while some updates where
installed. The next day I could not connect to our house Wireless router.
I did a "recover" back to a date just prior to the update installation and
everything has been fine ever since. After that experience, I shut off the
automatic update option as well.

My wife, the worry wart, has all kinds of anti-bad stuff installed on her
computer and she is constantly having crashes and problems. Norton seems to
be the biggest culprit.

The way I figure it, I just can't allow myself to worry and get paranoid
about a stupid computer. If I get a virus and it breaks - I'll take it to a
computer repair place and let them clean it up. If, in the unlikely event
the computer is totally trashed - I'll decide if I really want a new one. I
am very careful not to store anything of any importance on the computer.

So, has all this hacking and virus stuff been over emphasized to sell
protection software, or have I just been lucky for the last 15 years?

RCE



Don White February 1st 06 06:10 PM

OT A computer virus heads up
 
RCE wrote:
"Reggie Smithers" wrote in message
...


"There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch"

--
Reggie




Because I am currently bored, I tried that Microsoft SafetyLine link that
someone (JimH?) provided (thanks). I did the full scan doober (took a
while) and it reported my computer was fine, no viruses, no screwed up
files, no de-frag required. Everything is just hunky-dorey.

What's interesting to me is I have never, in all the years I've had a
computer and been on-line used any kind of anti-virus, anti-spyware,
anti-anything software. The only thing protecting this computer from the
cold, hard world is whatever firewall Microsoft uses in XP and whatever my
ISP firewall is. I tell people this and they are horrified - and they
advise me I am going to get hacked, mutilated, screwed and all kinds of
horrible things.
To date (knocking on wood) nothing has ever happened. In fact, the only
problem I encountered with this computer was after Microsoft did one of
those automatic updates, which I didn't know it was going to do until I shut
the computer off one day and it told me to wait while some updates where
installed. The next day I could not connect to our house Wireless router.
I did a "recover" back to a date just prior to the update installation and
everything has been fine ever since. After that experience, I shut off the
automatic update option as well.

My wife, the worry wart, has all kinds of anti-bad stuff installed on her
computer and she is constantly having crashes and problems. Norton seems to
be the biggest culprit.

The way I figure it, I just can't allow myself to worry and get paranoid
about a stupid computer. If I get a virus and it breaks - I'll take it to a
computer repair place and let them clean it up. If, in the unlikely event
the computer is totally trashed - I'll decide if I really want a new one. I
am very careful not to store anything of any importance on the computer.

So, has all this hacking and virus stuff been over emphasized to sell
protection software, or have I just been lucky for the last 15 years?

RCE


It is a racket... *but* I ran a year or two without protection and got
infected by a friend. Cost me about $ 125.00 to have it cleaned and
Norton installed.

RCE February 1st 06 06:38 PM

OT A computer virus heads up
 

"Don White" wrote in message
...
RCE wrote:
"Reggie Smithers" wrote in message
...


"There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch"

--
Reggie




Because I am currently bored, I tried that Microsoft SafetyLine link that
someone (JimH?) provided (thanks). I did the full scan doober (took a
while) and it reported my computer was fine, no viruses, no screwed up
files, no de-frag required. Everything is just hunky-dorey.

What's interesting to me is I have never, in all the years I've had a
computer and been on-line used any kind of anti-virus, anti-spyware,
anti-anything software. The only thing protecting this computer from the
cold, hard world is whatever firewall Microsoft uses in XP and whatever
my ISP firewall is. I tell people this and they are horrified - and
they advise me I am going to get hacked, mutilated, screwed and all kinds
of horrible things.
To date (knocking on wood) nothing has ever happened. In fact, the only
problem I encountered with this computer was after Microsoft did one of
those automatic updates, which I didn't know it was going to do until I
shut the computer off one day and it told me to wait while some updates
where installed. The next day I could not connect to our house Wireless
router. I did a "recover" back to a date just prior to the update
installation and everything has been fine ever since. After that
experience, I shut off the automatic update option as well.

My wife, the worry wart, has all kinds of anti-bad stuff installed on her
computer and she is constantly having crashes and problems. Norton seems
to be the biggest culprit.

The way I figure it, I just can't allow myself to worry and get paranoid
about a stupid computer. If I get a virus and it breaks - I'll take it
to a computer repair place and let them clean it up. If, in the unlikely
event the computer is totally trashed - I'll decide if I really want a
new one. I am very careful not to store anything of any importance on
the computer.

So, has all this hacking and virus stuff been over emphasized to sell
protection software, or have I just been lucky for the last 15 years?

RCE

It is a racket... *but* I ran a year or two without protection and got
infected by a friend. Cost me about $ 125.00 to have it cleaned and Norton
installed.


Of the $125 bucks, how much of it was for Norton? This is timely. Since I
posted the above, Mrs.E, who just returned from a week trip, called me
complaining that she could not get on-line. I checked the wireless setup -
fine. My computer using the same router is working fine. So --- I clicked
on the Norton thing ... WOOAAAHHH! Big red alerts, updates required,
impeding critical mass - everything but the sky is falling. I disabled
Norton. Clicked to connect on-line. Bang. There's her homepage.
Everything is fine.

Told her to leave Norton sleeping.

RCE



Doug Kanter February 1st 06 06:54 PM

OT A computer virus heads up
 

"RCE" wrote in message
...

"Don White" wrote in message
...
RCE wrote:
"Reggie Smithers" wrote in message
...


"There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch"

--
Reggie



Because I am currently bored, I tried that Microsoft SafetyLine link
that someone (JimH?) provided (thanks). I did the full scan doober
(took a while) and it reported my computer was fine, no viruses, no
screwed up files, no de-frag required. Everything is just hunky-dorey.

What's interesting to me is I have never, in all the years I've had a
computer and been on-line used any kind of anti-virus, anti-spyware,
anti-anything software. The only thing protecting this computer from
the cold, hard world is whatever firewall Microsoft uses in XP and
whatever my ISP firewall is. I tell people this and they are
horrified - and they advise me I am going to get hacked, mutilated,
screwed and all kinds of horrible things.
To date (knocking on wood) nothing has ever happened. In fact, the
only problem I encountered with this computer was after Microsoft did
one of those automatic updates, which I didn't know it was going to do
until I shut the computer off one day and it told me to wait while some
updates where installed. The next day I could not connect to our house
Wireless router. I did a "recover" back to a date just prior to the
update installation and everything has been fine ever since. After that
experience, I shut off the automatic update option as well.

My wife, the worry wart, has all kinds of anti-bad stuff installed on
her computer and she is constantly having crashes and problems. Norton
seems to be the biggest culprit.

The way I figure it, I just can't allow myself to worry and get paranoid
about a stupid computer. If I get a virus and it breaks - I'll take it
to a computer repair place and let them clean it up. If, in the
unlikely event the computer is totally trashed - I'll decide if I really
want a new one. I am very careful not to store anything of any
importance on the computer.

So, has all this hacking and virus stuff been over emphasized to sell
protection software, or have I just been lucky for the last 15 years?

RCE

It is a racket... *but* I ran a year or two without protection and got
infected by a friend. Cost me about $ 125.00 to have it cleaned and
Norton installed.


Of the $125 bucks, how much of it was for Norton? This is timely. Since
I posted the above, Mrs.E, who just returned from a week trip, called me
complaining that she could not get on-line. I checked the wireless
setup - fine. My computer using the same router is working fine. So ---
I clicked on the Norton thing ... WOOAAAHHH! Big red alerts, updates
required, impeding critical mass - everything but the sky is falling. I
disabled Norton. Clicked to connect on-line. Bang. There's her
homepage. Everything is fine.

Told her to leave Norton sleeping.

RCE


You *will* get burned at some point. It's a question of when, not if.



Wayne.B February 1st 06 07:05 PM

OT A computer virus heads up
 
On Wed, 1 Feb 2006 13:00:32 -0500, "RCE" wrote:

So, has all this hacking and virus stuff been over emphasized to sell
protection software, or have I just been lucky for the last 15 years?


You've been lucky. My home computer has the standard array of
protection: anti-virus, hardware firewall, software firewall, and
anti-spyware. It's up 24x7 and constantly connected with never a
problem. Many attempts are logged however.

I have a small laptop which normally gets used on the boat and
consequently has little or no protection. Two years ago I took it on
a trip to upstate NY, dialed into a small town internet service used
by friends, and 15 minutes later had a worm or virus which took down
the whole computer. I had to totally rebuild the software from the
ground up.


RCE February 1st 06 07:06 PM

OT A computer virus heads up
 

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...



You *will* get burned at some point. It's a question of when, not if.


Well sure, now that I've announced to the world that I am unarmed.

Oh, well. Computer prices are coming down.

CE



RCE February 1st 06 07:16 PM

OT A computer virus heads up
 

"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 1 Feb 2006 13:00:32 -0500, "RCE" wrote:

So, has all this hacking and virus stuff been over emphasized to sell
protection software, or have I just been lucky for the last 15 years?


You've been lucky. My home computer has the standard array of
protection: anti-virus, hardware firewall, software firewall, and
anti-spyware. It's up 24x7 and constantly connected with never a
problem. Many attempts are logged however.

I have a small laptop which normally gets used on the boat and
consequently has little or no protection. Two years ago I took it on
a trip to upstate NY, dialed into a small town internet service used
by friends, and 15 minutes later had a worm or virus which took down
the whole computer. I had to totally rebuild the software from the
ground up.


Now you did it. Thanks. Paranoia setting in. One thing I do though. I
never intentionally leave my computer connected to the Internet when I am
not using it. I am in the habit of always shutting the connection off.

RCE



Doug Kanter February 1st 06 07:18 PM

OT A computer virus heads up
 

"RCE" wrote in message
...

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...



You *will* get burned at some point. It's a question of when, not if.


Well sure, now that I've announced to the world that I am unarmed.

Oh, well. Computer prices are coming down.

CE


That would be your solution to a virus messing up your computer???

News flash: Unprotected computers can become infected within a matter of
minutes. If your ISP's providing some sort of firewall, you're lucky it's
working. But if you *do* have a problem, it will be proof that the
protection does NOT work, and that a new computer will run into a similar
problem.



Doug Kanter February 1st 06 07:22 PM

OT A computer virus heads up
 

"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 1 Feb 2006 13:00:32 -0500, "RCE" wrote:

So, has all this hacking and virus stuff been over emphasized to sell
protection software, or have I just been lucky for the last 15 years?


You've been lucky. My home computer has the standard array of
protection: anti-virus, hardware firewall, software firewall, and
anti-spyware. It's up 24x7 and constantly connected with never a
problem. Many attempts are logged however.

I have a small laptop which normally gets used on the boat and
consequently has little or no protection. Two years ago I took it on
a trip to upstate NY, dialed into a small town internet service used
by friends, and 15 minutes later had a worm or virus which took down
the whole computer. I had to totally rebuild the software from the
ground up.


Same here, sort of. I was doing a reformat/reinstall of XP for a friend, but
I forgot to unplug the thing from the cable modem. I hadn't installed
ZoneAlarm yet (big mistake that should've been obvious). Tried to get all
the MS security updates before continuing with anything else, but something
completely took over IE. The computer was useless, all within 20 minutes.



DSK February 1st 06 07:24 PM

OT A computer virus heads up
 
So, has all this hacking and virus stuff been over emphasized to sell
protection software, or have I just been lucky for the last 15 years?



Wayne.B wrote:
You've been lucky. My home computer has the standard array of
protection: anti-virus, hardware firewall, software firewall, and
anti-spyware. It's up 24x7 and constantly connected with never a
problem. Many attempts are logged however.

I have a small laptop which normally gets used on the boat and
consequently has little or no protection. Two years ago I took it on
a trip to upstate NY, dialed into a small town internet service used
by friends, and 15 minutes later had a worm or virus which took down
the whole computer. I had to totally rebuild the software from the
ground up.


What he said. I've had pretty much the same experience,
except repeated 3 or 4 times now and a few other minor
crashes that may been from hackery or just WinDOS urping on
itself.

Sometimes you pick up malware in less than 15 minutes!

Regards
Doug King


Doug Kanter February 1st 06 07:38 PM

OT A computer virus heads up
 

"RCE" wrote in message
...

"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 1 Feb 2006 13:00:32 -0500, "RCE" wrote:

So, has all this hacking and virus stuff been over emphasized to sell
protection software, or have I just been lucky for the last 15 years?


You've been lucky. My home computer has the standard array of
protection: anti-virus, hardware firewall, software firewall, and
anti-spyware. It's up 24x7 and constantly connected with never a
problem. Many attempts are logged however.

I have a small laptop which normally gets used on the boat and
consequently has little or no protection. Two years ago I took it on
a trip to upstate NY, dialed into a small town internet service used
by friends, and 15 minutes later had a worm or virus which took down
the whole computer. I had to totally rebuild the software from the
ground up.


Now you did it. Thanks. Paranoia setting in. One thing I do though. I
never intentionally leave my computer connected to the Internet when I am
not using it. I am in the habit of always shutting the connection off.

RCE


By the way, now that you're a bit paranoid, be aware that the firewall which
is part of XP is only partially useful. It blocks incoming nasties, but it
does nothing about a worm that's already in your machine and attempts to
make outbound contact. The simplest way around this is to install the free
version of ZoneAlarm (which some people don't like, but they're silly). They
make various levels of protection, including one which includes antivirus,
but the free thing is just a firewall.

www.zonelabs.com

My son installed the free version and said it sent up messages for a short
time which made him think he'd installed the fancy version. Really, it was
just a badly worded attempt to get him to consider one of the versions you
pay for. The messages stopped after a couple of weeks, if I recall, and the
thing's been nicely behaved ever since.

It's a bit of work getting it set up because any time a program wants to
communicate with the outside world, ZA asks for permission. But, once it's
trained to recognize the "good" programs, it's nice & quiet.



Doug Kanter February 1st 06 07:53 PM

OT A computer virus heads up
 
"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 1 Feb 2006 13:00:32 -0500, "RCE" wrote:

So, has all this hacking and virus stuff been over emphasized to sell
protection software, or have I just been lucky for the last 15 years?


i have often suspected that the virus/worm/hackers out there actually
work for symantec and other makers of anti-this and that software.

one of the issues i have is cookies


Which browser are you using? Doesn't it give you the ability to deal with
cookies manually, by asking permission to accept them?



RCE February 1st 06 07:55 PM

OT A computer virus heads up
 

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...


By the way, now that you're a bit paranoid, be aware that the firewall
which is part of XP is only partially useful. It blocks incoming nasties,
but it does nothing about a worm that's already in your machine and
attempts to make outbound contact. The simplest way around this is to
install the free version of ZoneAlarm (which some people don't like, but
they're silly). They make various levels of protection, including one
which includes antivirus, but the free thing is just a firewall.

www.zonelabs.com

My son installed the free version and said it sent up messages for a short
time which made him think he'd installed the fancy version. Really, it was
just a badly worded attempt to get him to consider one of the versions you
pay for. The messages stopped after a couple of weeks, if I recall, and
the thing's been nicely behaved ever since.

It's a bit of work getting it set up because any time a program wants to
communicate with the outside world, ZA asks for permission. But, once it's
trained to recognize the "good" programs, it's nice & quiet.


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JimH February 1st 06 08:09 PM

OT A computer virus heads up
 

"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 1 Feb 2006 13:00:32 -0500, "RCE" wrote:

So, has all this hacking and virus stuff been over emphasized to sell
protection software, or have I just been lucky for the last 15 years?


i have often suspected that the virus/worm/hackers out there actually
work for symantec and other makers of anti-this and that software.

one of the issues i have is cookies - i have to clean them out every
once in a while - those are probably the most - quote dangerous end of
quote - in the sense they can and do slow down a computer. and there
are various spy programs, etc that are a pia.

i was like you actually - i only had a firewall and anti-popup
software for a few years until about three years ago when i noticed
that my computer was doing really odd things on startup and it wasn't
getting to my home page as fast as it used to. i surfed around and
came up with adaware which i tried the free version of. 236 cookies,
a couple of spy programs and some other things called malware. axed
all the bad guys and computer is fine.

it was right after that that i noticed that there was some outgoing
traffic on the computer when it was online- sure enough, one of those
cookies left open a port and i got hacked.

fixed that, purchased norton, donated to spyware, bought adaware and a
program called pop-up stopper and havent had a problem since.


Yep, Ad-Aware is indeed terrific *free* software. Spybot S&D, Spyware
Blaster and Microsoft Antispyware are also good.........and *free*. I run
Cleanup! weekly to get rid of my temp files. Also a *free* program. (I
think you get my point now ;-) )

Popups are blocked automatically with Mozilla Firefox. You may want to give
it a try.

A nice little program that is not free is Tuneup Utilities 2006. You can
download a free trial version he
http://www.tune-up.com/products/tuneup-utilities/



Doug Kanter February 1st 06 08:36 PM

OT A computer virus heads up
 

" JimH" jimh_osudad@yahooDOT comREMOVETHIS wrote in message
...


Popups are blocked automatically with Mozilla Firefox. You may want to
give it a try.


Excellent cookie control with Firefox, too.



JimH February 1st 06 08:41 PM

OT A computer virus heads up
 

"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 1 Feb 2006 15:09:57 -0500, " JimH" jimh_osudad@yahooDOT
comREMOVETHIS wrote:


"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
. ..
On Wed, 1 Feb 2006 13:00:32 -0500, "RCE" wrote:

So, has all this hacking and virus stuff been over emphasized to sell
protection software, or have I just been lucky for the last 15 years?

i have often suspected that the virus/worm/hackers out there actually
work for symantec and other makers of anti-this and that software.

one of the issues i have is cookies - i have to clean them out every
once in a while - those are probably the most - quote dangerous end of
quote - in the sense they can and do slow down a computer. and there
are various spy programs, etc that are a pia.

i was like you actually - i only had a firewall and anti-popup
software for a few years until about three years ago when i noticed
that my computer was doing really odd things on startup and it wasn't
getting to my home page as fast as it used to. i surfed around and
came up with adaware which i tried the free version of. 236 cookies,
a couple of spy programs and some other things called malware. axed
all the bad guys and computer is fine.

it was right after that that i noticed that there was some outgoing
traffic on the computer when it was online- sure enough, one of those
cookies left open a port and i got hacked.

fixed that, purchased norton, donated to spyware, bought adaware and a
program called pop-up stopper and havent had a problem since.


Yep, Ad-Aware is indeed terrific *free* software. Spybot S&D, Spyware
Blaster and Microsoft Antispyware are also good.........and *free*. I
run
Cleanup! weekly to get rid of my temp files. Also a *free* program. (I
think you get my point now ;-) )

Popups are blocked automatically with Mozilla Firefox. You may want to
give
it a try.

A nice little program that is not free is Tuneup Utilities 2006. You can
download a free trial version he
http://www.tune-up.com/products/tuneup-utilities/


look you smarmy little block head - nothing is -free-. adaware pro is
not free. i bought the pro version to support them so cheapskates
like you can have it - free - .

spypot is not free - oh, wait its only free to dweebs like you - check
the faq page -


What the hell is your problem? Do you have to play the expert on everything
Tom or are you willing to take some advice from others?

And BTW, it's Spybot, not Spypot.........and it is free.




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