OT A computer virus heads up
 

RCE wrote:
"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
You *will* get burned at some point. It's a question of when, not if.


Well sure, now that I've announced to the world that I am unarmed.

Oh, well. Computer prices are coming down.

CE


RCE.
By the way, what is your IP again?

--
Reggie
************************************************** *************
That's my story and I am sticking to it.

************************************************** *************

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Doug Kanter wrote:
"RCE" wrote in message
...
"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
You *will* get burned at some point. It's a question of when, not if.

Well sure, now that I've announced to the world that I am unarmed.

Oh, well. Computer prices are coming down.

CE


That would be your solution to a virus messing up your computer???

News flash: Unprotected computers can become infected within a matter of
minutes. If your ISP's providing some sort of firewall, you're lucky it's
working. But if you *do* have a problem, it will be proof that the
protection does NOT work, and that a new computer will run into a similar
problem.


Before I turned off the warning messages, I was surprised how many times
my computer would get probed, probably at least once every 5 min. No
dinner, no drinks .... nothing. Wam Bam Thank you Mame.

--
Reggie
************************************************** *************
That's my story and I am sticking to it.

************************************************** *************

OT A computer virus heads up
 

JimH wrote:
"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 1 Feb 2006 15:09:57 -0500, " JimH" jimh_osudad@yahooDOT
comREMOVETHIS wrote:

"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 1 Feb 2006 13:00:32 -0500, "RCE" wrote:

So, has all this hacking and virus stuff been over emphasized to sell
protection software, or have I just been lucky for the last 15 years?
i have often suspected that the virus/worm/hackers out there actually
work for symantec and other makers of anti-this and that software.

one of the issues i have is cookies - i have to clean them out every
once in a while - those are probably the most - quote dangerous end of
quote - in the sense they can and do slow down a computer. and there
are various spy programs, etc that are a pia.

i was like you actually - i only had a firewall and anti-popup
software for a few years until about three years ago when i noticed
that my computer was doing really odd things on startup and it wasn't
getting to my home page as fast as it used to. i surfed around and
came up with adaware which i tried the free version of. 236 cookies,
a couple of spy programs and some other things called malware. axed
all the bad guys and computer is fine.

it was right after that that i noticed that there was some outgoing
traffic on the computer when it was online- sure enough, one of those
cookies left open a port and i got hacked.

fixed that, purchased norton, donated to spyware, bought adaware and a
program called pop-up stopper and havent had a problem since.
Yep, Ad-Aware is indeed terrific *free* software. Spybot S&D, Spyware
Blaster and Microsoft Antispyware are also good.........and *free*. I
run
Cleanup! weekly to get rid of my temp files. Also a *free* program. (I
think you get my point now ;-) )

Popups are blocked automatically with Mozilla Firefox. You may want to
give
it a try.

A nice little program that is not free is Tuneup Utilities 2006. You can
download a free trial version he
http://www.tune-up.com/products/tuneup-utilities/
look you smarmy little block head - nothing is -free-. adaware pro is
not free. i bought the pro version to support them so cheapskates
like you can have it - free - .

spypot is not free - oh, wait its only free to dweebs like you - check
the faq page -


What the hell is your problem? Do you have to play the expert on everything
Tom or are you willing to take some advice from others?

And BTW, it's Spybot, not Spypot.........and it is free.


JimH,
If you read Tom's post without the "smarmy little block head", that one
might find offensive, what he is saying is correct. These companies
offer the 'free' version so people will see the benefit of the product
and either buy the full version or make a voluntary contribution.

from SpyBot's web site:

Please donate! [link]

Spybot-S&D has long grown a full-time job for me and causes quite a lot
of work for our volunteers. I'm working hard and it's great fun to do
it. Of course all the infrastructure we use causes costs, and I've got
to live on something, but at the same time I believe in free software.
Therefore I decided to keep Spybot-S&D free and give you the freedom to
decide if and how much it is worth to you.

If you can spare a few bucks, please donate to our cause. This is purely
voluntary though - if you do not donate, you won't get less support from us.

If no one purchased and supported the software engineers, there would
not be any of the great software we use today. Stripped down versions
are made available so you will buy the full/pro version.

Mozilla is developing open source browsers so developers can compete
against MS.

--
Reggie
************************************************** *************
That's my story and I am sticking to it.

************************************************** *************

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"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...

your point is stupid. your point is that you are cheapskate who lives
off the work and contributions of others without any recompense so
that you can have it - free - .

TANSTAAFL cheapskate.

oh wiat, that doesnt count for you does it - its all free!!!!!

What's your address? I'm sending you 3 hookers. You're in some mood today.
:-)

OT A computer virus heads up
 

RCE wrote:
"Don White" wrote in message
...

RCE wrote:

"Reggie Smithers" wrote in message
...



"There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch"

--
Reggie



Because I am currently bored, I tried that Microsoft SafetyLine link that
someone (JimH?) provided (thanks). I did the full scan doober (took a
while) and it reported my computer was fine, no viruses, no screwed up
files, no de-frag required. Everything is just hunky-dorey.

What's interesting to me is I have never, in all the years I've had a
computer and been on-line used any kind of anti-virus, anti-spyware,
anti-anything software. The only thing protecting this computer from the
cold, hard world is whatever firewall Microsoft uses in XP and whatever
my ISP firewall is. I tell people this and they are horrified - and
they advise me I am going to get hacked, mutilated, screwed and all kinds
of horrible things.
To date (knocking on wood) nothing has ever happened. In fact, the only
problem I encountered with this computer was after Microsoft did one of
those automatic updates, which I didn't know it was going to do until I
shut the computer off one day and it told me to wait while some updates
where installed. The next day I could not connect to our house Wireless
router. I did a "recover" back to a date just prior to the update
installation and everything has been fine ever since. After that
experience, I shut off the automatic update option as well.

My wife, the worry wart, has all kinds of anti-bad stuff installed on her
computer and she is constantly having crashes and problems. Norton seems
to be the biggest culprit.

The way I figure it, I just can't allow myself to worry and get paranoid
about a stupid computer. If I get a virus and it breaks - I'll take it
to a computer repair place and let them clean it up. If, in the unlikely
event the computer is totally trashed - I'll decide if I really want a
new one. I am very careful not to store anything of any importance on
the computer.

So, has all this hacking and virus stuff been over emphasized to sell
protection software, or have I just been lucky for the last 15 years?

RCE

It is a racket... *but* I ran a year or two without protection and got
infected by a friend. Cost me about $ 125.00 to have it cleaned and Norton
installed.


Of the $125 bucks, how much of it was for Norton? This is timely. Since I
posted the above, Mrs.E, who just returned from a week trip, called me
complaining that she could not get on-line. I checked the wireless setup -
fine. My computer using the same router is working fine. So --- I clicked
on the Norton thing ... WOOAAAHHH! Big red alerts, updates required,
impeding critical mass - everything but the sky is falling. I disabled
Norton. Clicked to connect on-line. Bang. There's her homepage.
Everything is fine.

Told her to leave Norton sleeping.

RCE


$ 50.00 - 60.00 CDN for initial program.
My subscription has expired too and I keep getting the messages.
The computer store said not to re-new on line... just come to them and
buy a new version. (I get a new CD).
Not sure which way is cheaper at this point.

OT A computer virus heads up
 

RCE wrote:
"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...

On Wed, 1 Feb 2006 13:00:32 -0500, "RCE" wrote:


So, has all this hacking and virus stuff been over emphasized to sell
protection software, or have I just been lucky for the last 15 years?

You've been lucky. My home computer has the standard array of
protection: anti-virus, hardware firewall, software firewall, and
anti-spyware. It's up 24x7 and constantly connected with never a
problem. Many attempts are logged however.

I have a small laptop which normally gets used on the boat and
consequently has little or no protection. Two years ago I took it on
a trip to upstate NY, dialed into a small town internet service used
by friends, and 15 minutes later had a worm or virus which took down
the whole computer. I had to totally rebuild the software from the
ground up.



Now you did it. Thanks. Paranoia setting in. One thing I do though. I
never intentionally leave my computer connected to the Internet when I am
not using it. I am in the habit of always shutting the connection off.

RCE


Same here and I shut down the entire computer when I go to bed until
mid-morning the next day. This is an old habit from work.

OT A computer virus heads up
 

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...

your point is stupid. your point is that you are cheapskate who lives
off the work and contributions of others without any recompense so
that you can have it - free - .

TANSTAAFL cheapskate.

oh wiat, that doesnt count for you does it - its all free!!!!!

What's your address? I'm sending you 3 hookers. You're in some mood today.
:-)



He certainly had no reason to insult me the way he did when all I was trying
to do was offer some help and a heads up on a new virus.

Go figure.

OT A computer virus heads up
 

"Don White" wrote in message
...
RCE wrote:
"Don White" wrote in message
...

RCE wrote:

"Reggie Smithers" wrote in message
...



"There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch"

--
Reggie



Because I am currently bored, I tried that Microsoft SafetyLine link
that someone (JimH?) provided (thanks). I did the full scan doober
(took a while) and it reported my computer was fine, no viruses, no
screwed up files, no de-frag required. Everything is just hunky-dorey.

What's interesting to me is I have never, in all the years I've had a
computer and been on-line used any kind of anti-virus, anti-spyware,
anti-anything software. The only thing protecting this computer from
the cold, hard world is whatever firewall Microsoft uses in XP and
whatever my ISP firewall is. I tell people this and they are
horrified - and they advise me I am going to get hacked, mutilated,
screwed and all kinds of horrible things.
To date (knocking on wood) nothing has ever happened. In fact, the
only problem I encountered with this computer was after Microsoft did
one of those automatic updates, which I didn't know it was going to do
until I shut the computer off one day and it told me to wait while some
updates where installed. The next day I could not connect to our house
Wireless router. I did a "recover" back to a date just prior to the
update installation and everything has been fine ever since. After that
experience, I shut off the automatic update option as well.

My wife, the worry wart, has all kinds of anti-bad stuff installed on
her computer and she is constantly having crashes and problems. Norton
seems to be the biggest culprit.

The way I figure it, I just can't allow myself to worry and get paranoid
about a stupid computer. If I get a virus and it breaks - I'll take it
to a computer repair place and let them clean it up. If, in the
unlikely event the computer is totally trashed - I'll decide if I really
want a new one. I am very careful not to store anything of any
importance on the computer.

So, has all this hacking and virus stuff been over emphasized to sell
protection software, or have I just been lucky for the last 15 years?

RCE

It is a racket... *but* I ran a year or two without protection and got
infected by a friend. Cost me about $ 125.00 to have it cleaned and
Norton installed.


Of the $125 bucks, how much of it was for Norton? This is timely. Since
I posted the above, Mrs.E, who just returned from a week trip, called me
complaining that she could not get on-line. I checked the wireless
setup - fine. My computer using the same router is working fine. So ---
I clicked on the Norton thing ... WOOAAAHHH! Big red alerts, updates
required, impeding critical mass - everything but the sky is falling. I
disabled Norton. Clicked to connect on-line. Bang. There's her
homepage. Everything is fine.

Told her to leave Norton sleeping.

RCE
$ 50.00 - 60.00 CDN for initial program.
My subscription has expired too and I keep getting the messages.
The computer store said not to re-new on line... just come to them and buy
a new version. (I get a new CD).

Bull****. Renew on line if it's cheaper and you're happy with the program. I
say "if" because I don't know how that sort of thing works on other planets,
like Canada. But here, it was cheaper just to renew the NAV I already had.

OT A computer virus heads up
 

" JimH" jimh_osudad@yahooDOT comREMOVETHIS wrote in message
...

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...

your point is stupid. your point is that you are cheapskate who lives
off the work and contributions of others without any recompense so
that you can have it - free - .

TANSTAAFL cheapskate.

oh wiat, that doesnt count for you does it - its all free!!!!!

What's your address? I'm sending you 3 hookers. You're in some mood
today. :-)



He certainly had no reason to insult me the way he did when all I was
trying to do was offer some help and a heads up on a new virus.

Go figure.


Well, you *are* a pretty easy target. Always have been. :-)

OT A computer virus heads up
 

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...

" JimH" jimh_osudad@yahooDOT comREMOVETHIS wrote in message
...

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...

your point is stupid. your point is that you are cheapskate who lives
off the work and contributions of others without any recompense so
that you can have it - free - .

TANSTAAFL cheapskate.

oh wiat, that doesnt count for you does it - its all free!!!!!

What's your address? I'm sending you 3 hookers. You're in some mood
today. :-)



He certainly had no reason to insult me the way he did when all I was
trying to do was offer some help and a heads up on a new virus.

Go figure.


Well, you *are* a pretty easy target. Always have been. :-)


??

OT A computer virus heads up
 

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...

"Don White" wrote in message
...
RCE wrote:
"Don White" wrote in message
...

RCE wrote:

"Reggie Smithers" wrote in message
...



"There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch"

--
Reggie



Because I am currently bored, I tried that Microsoft SafetyLine link
that someone (JimH?) provided (thanks). I did the full scan doober
(took a while) and it reported my computer was fine, no viruses, no
screwed up files, no de-frag required. Everything is just hunky-dorey.

What's interesting to me is I have never, in all the years I've had a
computer and been on-line used any kind of anti-virus, anti-spyware,
anti-anything software. The only thing protecting this computer from
the cold, hard world is whatever firewall Microsoft uses in XP and
whatever my ISP firewall is. I tell people this and they are
horrified - and they advise me I am going to get hacked, mutilated,
screwed and all kinds of horrible things.
To date (knocking on wood) nothing has ever happened. In fact, the
only problem I encountered with this computer was after Microsoft did
one of those automatic updates, which I didn't know it was going to do
until I shut the computer off one day and it told me to wait while some
updates where installed. The next day I could not connect to our house
Wireless router. I did a "recover" back to a date just prior to the
update installation and everything has been fine ever since. After
that experience, I shut off the automatic update option as well.

My wife, the worry wart, has all kinds of anti-bad stuff installed on
her computer and she is constantly having crashes and problems. Norton
seems to be the biggest culprit.

The way I figure it, I just can't allow myself to worry and get
paranoid about a stupid computer. If I get a virus and it breaks -
I'll take it to a computer repair place and let them clean it up. If,
in the unlikely event the computer is totally trashed - I'll decide if
I really want a new one. I am very careful not to store anything of
any importance on the computer.

So, has all this hacking and virus stuff been over emphasized to sell
protection software, or have I just been lucky for the last 15 years?

RCE

It is a racket... *but* I ran a year or two without protection and got
infected by a friend. Cost me about $ 125.00 to have it cleaned and
Norton installed.


Of the $125 bucks, how much of it was for Norton? This is timely.
Since I posted the above, Mrs.E, who just returned from a week trip,
called me complaining that she could not get on-line. I checked the
wireless setup - fine. My computer using the same router is working
fine. So --- I clicked on the Norton thing ... WOOAAAHHH! Big red
alerts, updates required, impeding critical mass - everything but the
sky is falling. I disabled Norton. Clicked to connect on-line. Bang.
There's her homepage. Everything is fine.

Told her to leave Norton sleeping.

RCE
$ 50.00 - 60.00 CDN for initial program.
My subscription has expired too and I keep getting the messages.
The computer store said not to re-new on line... just come to them and
buy a new version. (I get a new CD).

Bull****. Renew on line if it's cheaper and you're happy with the program.
I say "if" because I don't know how that sort of thing works on other
planets, like Canada. But here, it was cheaper just to renew the NAV I
already had.


Cheaper to buy a new disk. Costco had a rebate program, \so the cost was
about $10 after rebate. Watch the adds from Fry's and Office depot or
Staples. Almost 100% rebate.

OT A computer virus heads up
 

"Gene Kearns" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 31 Jan 2006 20:48:47 -0500, " JimH" jimh_osudad@yahooDOT
comREMOVETHIS penned the following well considered thoughts to the
readers of rec.boats:

==========================
The clock is ticking on a dangerous computer virus programmed to delete
millions of Word files stored on PCs when it reaches the end of its
countdown on Friday.

Anybody got the latest poop on this with respect to how prepared we
are to cleanse infected computers or how effective firewalls are in
protecting against this peril?

--

Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Oak Island, NC.

http://myworkshop.idleplay.net/
Homepage*
http://www.thebayguide.com/rec.boats
Rec.boats at Lee Yeaton's Bayguide



More he

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sec...ry/904420.mspx

http://www.windowsonecare.com/

OT A computer virus heads up
 

"Gene Kearns" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 31 Jan 2006 20:48:47 -0500, " JimH" jimh_osudad@yahooDOT
comREMOVETHIS penned the following well considered thoughts to the
readers of rec.boats:

==========================
The clock is ticking on a dangerous computer virus programmed to delete
millions of Word files stored on PCs when it reaches the end of its
countdown on Friday.

Anybody got the latest poop on this with respect to how prepared we
are to cleanse infected computers or how effective firewalls are in
protecting against this peril?

--

Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Oak Island, NC.

http://myworkshop.idleplay.net/
Homepage*
http://www.thebayguide.com/rec.boats
Rec.boats at Lee Yeaton's Bayguide



Symantec has released a free tool that will remove the virus. Download the
tool and run it, even if you are certain that you are not infected. It is a
very small file and you have nothing to lose by running it.

http://securityresponse.symantec.com...oval.tool.html

If you already have an antivirus program, make certain it is updated and run
a full scan of your computer.

OT A computer virus heads up
 

"Calif Bill" wrote in message
ink.net...

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...

"Don White" wrote in message
...
RCE wrote:
"Don White" wrote in message
...

RCE wrote:

"Reggie Smithers" wrote in message
...



"There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch"

--
Reggie



Because I am currently bored, I tried that Microsoft SafetyLine link
that someone (JimH?) provided (thanks). I did the full scan doober
(took a while) and it reported my computer was fine, no viruses, no
screwed up files, no de-frag required. Everything is just hunky-dorey.

What's interesting to me is I have never, in all the years I've had a
computer and been on-line used any kind of anti-virus, anti-spyware,
anti-anything software. The only thing protecting this computer from
the cold, hard world is whatever firewall Microsoft uses in XP and
whatever my ISP firewall is. I tell people this and they are
horrified - and they advise me I am going to get hacked, mutilated,
screwed and all kinds of horrible things.
To date (knocking on wood) nothing has ever happened. In fact, the
only problem I encountered with this computer was after Microsoft did
one of those automatic updates, which I didn't know it was going to do
until I shut the computer off one day and it told me to wait while
some updates where installed. The next day I could not connect to our
house Wireless router. I did a "recover" back to a date just prior to
the update installation and everything has been fine ever since.
After that experience, I shut off the automatic update option as well.

My wife, the worry wart, has all kinds of anti-bad stuff installed on
her computer and she is constantly having crashes and problems.
Norton seems to be the biggest culprit.

The way I figure it, I just can't allow myself to worry and get
paranoid about a stupid computer. If I get a virus and it breaks -
I'll take it to a computer repair place and let them clean it up. If,
in the unlikely event the computer is totally trashed - I'll decide if
I really want a new one. I am very careful not to store anything of
any importance on the computer.

So, has all this hacking and virus stuff been over emphasized to sell
protection software, or have I just been lucky for the last 15 years?

RCE

It is a racket... *but* I ran a year or two without protection and got
infected by a friend. Cost me about $ 125.00 to have it cleaned and
Norton installed.


Of the $125 bucks, how much of it was for Norton? This is timely.
Since I posted the above, Mrs.E, who just returned from a week trip,
called me complaining that she could not get on-line. I checked the
wireless setup - fine. My computer using the same router is working
fine. So --- I clicked on the Norton thing ... WOOAAAHHH! Big red
alerts, updates required, impeding critical mass - everything but the
sky is falling. I disabled Norton. Clicked to connect on-line. Bang.
There's her homepage. Everything is fine.

Told her to leave Norton sleeping.

RCE
$ 50.00 - 60.00 CDN for initial program.
My subscription has expired too and I keep getting the messages.
The computer store said not to re-new on line... just come to them and
buy a new version. (I get a new CD).

Bull****. Renew on line if it's cheaper and you're happy with the
program. I say "if" because I don't know how that sort of thing works on
other planets, like Canada. But here, it was cheaper just to renew the
NAV I already had.


Cheaper to buy a new disk. Costco had a rebate program, \so the cost was
about $10 after rebate. Watch the adds from Fry's and Office depot or
Staples. Almost 100% rebate.


Sometimes, uninstalling & reinstalling software in the Windows environment
causes "interesting" problems that you can't fix. Renewing the subscription
for existing software is much safer. If he's got unlimited time on his hands
to deal with nightmares, then fiddling with new software is the way to go.

OT A computer virus heads up
 

"Gene Kearns" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 2 Feb 2006 07:35:12 -0500, " JimH" jimh_osudad@yahooDOT
comREMOVETHIS penned the following well considered thoughts to the
readers of rec.boats:

If you already have an antivirus program, make certain it is updated and
run
a full scan of your computer.

I'm running a commercial software firewall and mail server with an
anti-virus program.... but I still worry.

One easy safeguard that everyone can employ is to write one filter
that throws away all mail not addressed to "you." A second filter
should move all mail that isn't addressed from a known address to a
folder marked "purgatory." Purgatory mail should never be opened until
thoroughly inspected.

The "secure" version of The Bat! email client also adds a *lot* of
security.

--

Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Oak Island, NC.

Homepage
http://myworkshop.idleplay.net/

Rec.boats at Lee Yeaton's Bayguide
http://www.thebayguide.com/rec.boats

I use Mailwasher Pro for that very purpose.

OT A computer virus heads up
 

On Fri, 3 Feb 2006 10:26:22 -0500, " JimH" jimh_osudad@yahooDOT
comREMOVETHIS wrote:


"Gene Kearns" wrote in message
.. .
On Thu, 2 Feb 2006 07:35:12 -0500, " JimH" jimh_osudad@yahooDOT
comREMOVETHIS penned the following well considered thoughts to the
readers of rec.boats:

If you already have an antivirus program, make certain it is updated and
run
a full scan of your computer.

I'm running a commercial software firewall and mail server with an
anti-virus program.... but I still worry.

One easy safeguard that everyone can employ is to write one filter
that throws away all mail not addressed to "you." A second filter
should move all mail that isn't addressed from a known address to a
folder marked "purgatory." Purgatory mail should never be opened until
thoroughly inspected.

The "secure" version of The Bat! email client also adds a *lot* of
security.

--

Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Oak Island, NC.

Homepage
http://myworkshop.idleplay.net/

Rec.boats at Lee Yeaton's Bayguide
http://www.thebayguide.com/rec.boats

I use Mailwasher Pro for that very purpose.


A *great* piece of software that let's the ISP be 'purgatory'.
--
'Til next time,

John H

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