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Reggie Smithers
 
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Default Bill to ban "teak surfing" introduced in WA State

JohnH wrote:
On Fri, 27 Jan 2006 19:04:08 -0500, Reggie Smithers
wrote:

JohnH wrote:
On Fri, 27 Jan 2006 17:31:20 -0500, Reggie Smithers
wrote:

JohnH wrote:
On 27 Jan 2006 12:12:33 -0800, wrote:

JohnH wrote:
On 26 Jan 2006 19:33:09 -0800,
wrote:

Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:
On 26 Jan 2006 07:48:05 -0800,
wrote:

Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:
On 25 Jan 2006 19:16:40 -0800,
wrote:

Senator Pam Roach has sponsored Senate Bill 6364 to ban "teak surfing".
She was prompted by one of her constituent organizations, the East
Pierce County Fire and Rescue. This agency had dealt with two tragic
deaths on Lake Tapps due to teak surfing.
oh for petes sake - another do-gooder who wants to save people from
themselves.

do they seriously think a law is going to stop this type of activity?
ill bet there is a fine attached to this - just another revenue raiser
for the state.

another useless piece of legislation.
Actually, not just "another piece of useless legislation" designed to
generate fines.

Right now, if a cop sees some 16 year old kid running a boat while some
14 or 15 year old
is teak surfing, about all the cop can do is pull them over and give
them a lecture about safety. Of course once the cop is out of sight,
the allure of teak surfing is immediately tripled, because not only is
it some sort of fun, but now it's also borderline dangerous *and* it
****es off the cops.

If there's a law, the cops can go as far as arresting the operator, if
need be, to see that the teak surfing stops.

There's a difference between being mentally defective ("should be
removed from the gene pool") and uninformed. A lot of teak surfers are
probably kids who don't ordinarily spend a lot of time around boats,
and when "all" their friends are doing it they just assume it's a
normal activity.

Here's hoping you never answer a knock on your door to learn that a kid
or a grandkid was killed while doing something others would consider
"stupid". My bet is that the last thought to cross your mind would be,
"Oh, well. If they were that stupid they didn't deserve to live in the
first place and it's a good thing they died before they could
reproduce."

We're talking actual lives here, not some abstract talk show platitude.
there are laws against drink operating - less than 10% of people
operating a boat drunk are caught. there are laws concerning the
operation of boats by those under 16 - i can't tell you how many 12 to
16 yo kids i see on pwcs and pwc type boats operating in state parks
of all things - theres a law against that too. oh, lets talk about
operating with kids aboard w/o life preservers - theres a law about
that i think.

its still saving people from themselves. whats next - no bungee
jumping? sky diving? snowboarding? soccer? baseball? people get
seriously injured in those sports all the time - in particular soccer
where serious knee/ankle and head injuries occur on a regular basis.
bungee jumping, sky diving, snowboarding, soccer, baseball etc are all
ordinarily survivable.

sucking in CO fumes almost directly from the exhaust port usuallly is
not.



it is what it is chuck - just another grandstand play by some small
time politician making a name for themselves under the guise of public
safety.

its bull**** of the first order and just another way to produce
revenue along the way.
Chuck - I haven't forgotten the peanuts. It's just that the boiled ones are
a little harder to come by then I thought. I'm going down to Richmond
tomorrow to see the daughter. Hopefully I'll be able to pick 'em up there.
--
'Til next time,

John H

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No big deal.

If you want to send something other than boiled, that would be just
fine. Thanks for remembering.
No way. Boiled you wanted, boiled you get!
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'Til next time,

John H

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I am surprised they don't sell boiled peanuts in every single bait shop
around the bay.
I've never seen them at a bait shop. This is not the season for fresh
boiled peanuts, which are often a favorite at flea markets. The only way to
buy them now is canned, literally in cans. I've tracked some down, at a
deli in Richmond. Will be getting them tomorrow or Sunday. Gives me an
excuse to put a couple hundred miles on the Mustang.
--
'Til next time,

John H

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In many southern states you will see some good ole boys boiling peanuts
up and down the country roads. In the suburbs they will pull up with a
trailer with a very large pot to boil the peanuts fresh, so you get them
nice and hot.

For a brokerage fee, I will find them and forward them to chuck.


Do you think they're out there now?
--
'Til next time,

John H

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I think I will have to look harder than normal, that is why the
brokerage fee is as high as it is.

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Reggie
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That's my story and I am sticking to it.

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Default Bill to ban "teak surfing" introduced in WA State

On Sat, 28 Jan 2006 06:51:32 -0500, Reggie Smithers
wrote:

JohnH wrote:
On Fri, 27 Jan 2006 19:04:08 -0500, Reggie Smithers
wrote:

JohnH wrote:
On Fri, 27 Jan 2006 17:31:20 -0500, Reggie Smithers
wrote:

JohnH wrote:
On 27 Jan 2006 12:12:33 -0800, wrote:

JohnH wrote:
On 26 Jan 2006 19:33:09 -0800,
wrote:

Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:
On 26 Jan 2006 07:48:05 -0800,
wrote:

Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:
On 25 Jan 2006 19:16:40 -0800,
wrote:

Senator Pam Roach has sponsored Senate Bill 6364 to ban "teak surfing".
She was prompted by one of her constituent organizations, the East
Pierce County Fire and Rescue. This agency had dealt with two tragic
deaths on Lake Tapps due to teak surfing.
oh for petes sake - another do-gooder who wants to save people from
themselves.

do they seriously think a law is going to stop this type of activity?
ill bet there is a fine attached to this - just another revenue raiser
for the state.

another useless piece of legislation.
Actually, not just "another piece of useless legislation" designed to
generate fines.

Right now, if a cop sees some 16 year old kid running a boat while some
14 or 15 year old
is teak surfing, about all the cop can do is pull them over and give
them a lecture about safety. Of course once the cop is out of sight,
the allure of teak surfing is immediately tripled, because not only is
it some sort of fun, but now it's also borderline dangerous *and* it
****es off the cops.

If there's a law, the cops can go as far as arresting the operator, if
need be, to see that the teak surfing stops.

There's a difference between being mentally defective ("should be
removed from the gene pool") and uninformed. A lot of teak surfers are
probably kids who don't ordinarily spend a lot of time around boats,
and when "all" their friends are doing it they just assume it's a
normal activity.

Here's hoping you never answer a knock on your door to learn that a kid
or a grandkid was killed while doing something others would consider
"stupid". My bet is that the last thought to cross your mind would be,
"Oh, well. If they were that stupid they didn't deserve to live in the
first place and it's a good thing they died before they could
reproduce."

We're talking actual lives here, not some abstract talk show platitude.
there are laws against drink operating - less than 10% of people
operating a boat drunk are caught. there are laws concerning the
operation of boats by those under 16 - i can't tell you how many 12 to
16 yo kids i see on pwcs and pwc type boats operating in state parks
of all things - theres a law against that too. oh, lets talk about
operating with kids aboard w/o life preservers - theres a law about
that i think.

its still saving people from themselves. whats next - no bungee
jumping? sky diving? snowboarding? soccer? baseball? people get
seriously injured in those sports all the time - in particular soccer
where serious knee/ankle and head injuries occur on a regular basis.
bungee jumping, sky diving, snowboarding, soccer, baseball etc are all
ordinarily survivable.

sucking in CO fumes almost directly from the exhaust port usuallly is
not.



it is what it is chuck - just another grandstand play by some small
time politician making a name for themselves under the guise of public
safety.

its bull**** of the first order and just another way to produce
revenue along the way.
Chuck - I haven't forgotten the peanuts. It's just that the boiled ones are
a little harder to come by then I thought. I'm going down to Richmond
tomorrow to see the daughter. Hopefully I'll be able to pick 'em up there.
--
'Til next time,

John H

******************************************
***** Have a Spectacular Day! *****
******************************************
No big deal.

If you want to send something other than boiled, that would be just
fine. Thanks for remembering.
No way. Boiled you wanted, boiled you get!
--
'Til next time,

John H

******************************************
***** Have a Spectacular Day! *****
******************************************
I am surprised they don't sell boiled peanuts in every single bait shop
around the bay.
I've never seen them at a bait shop. This is not the season for fresh
boiled peanuts, which are often a favorite at flea markets. The only way to
buy them now is canned, literally in cans. I've tracked some down, at a
deli in Richmond. Will be getting them tomorrow or Sunday. Gives me an
excuse to put a couple hundred miles on the Mustang.
--
'Til next time,

John H

******************************************
***** Have a Spectacular Day! *****
******************************************
In many southern states you will see some good ole boys boiling peanuts
up and down the country roads. In the suburbs they will pull up with a
trailer with a very large pot to boil the peanuts fresh, so you get them
nice and hot.

For a brokerage fee, I will find them and forward them to chuck.


Do you think they're out there now?
--
'Til next time,

John H

******************************************
***** Have a Spectacular Day! *****
******************************************

I think I will have to look harder than normal, that is why the
brokerage fee is as high as it is.


Never mind. I got some today. They'll be in the mail Monday, unless I've
lost Chuck's address.
--
'Til next time,

John H

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FREDO
 
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Default Bill to ban "teak surfing" introduced in WA State

So if I throw a Ski rope behind Miss Daisy and drag my son thru the water on
it at 2-3 mph is that also bad?


"JohnH" wrote in message
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On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 06:53:26 -0500, Reggie Smithers
wrote:

wrote:
This memo is being sent to WAMBE & RBAW members because of your
interest in boating safety. If you would like off this list, please
let me know.

Senator Pam Roach has sponsored Senate Bill 6364 to ban "teak surfing".
She was prompted by one of her constituent organizations, the East
Pierce County Fire and Rescue. This agency had dealt with two tragic
deaths on Lake Tapps due to teak surfing. For info on bill language go
to: http://apps.leg.wa.gov/billinfo/summary.aspx?bill=6364

The hearing for this bill is on February 1st in Olympia. Unfortunately
it's at 8 AM, however Sen. Roach would like to have as many boaters as
possible show up to support this bill. RBAW supports this bill and
it's intent. There may be discussions to amend the bill for word
smithing purposes to clarify the term "teak surfing", but all for the
better. Clearly this is a bill all boating safety organizations should
have interest in and your participation at the hearing would be
welcomed by the bill's supporters.

RBAW plans to be there on the 1st. If anybody else can make it and
needs further information, directions, etc. please let me know. If you
want to testify PRO, you can say a few words why you or your
organization likes the bill. Otherwise, you can just sign in PRO "not
wanting to testify".

Thanks and let me know if any questions.
~David Kutz
RBAW President

Chuck,
I am concerned that the State of Washington is trying to override
Darwin's theories. One should not mess with Mother Nature.


I'll bite. What the hell is 'teak surfing'?
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JohnH
 
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On Sun, 29 Jan 2006 07:03:50 GMT, "FREDO" wrote:

So if I throw a Ski rope behind Miss Daisy and drag my son thru the water on
it at 2-3 mph is that also bad?


"JohnH" wrote in message
.. .
On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 06:53:26 -0500, Reggie Smithers
wrote:

wrote:
This memo is being sent to WAMBE & RBAW members because of your
interest in boating safety. If you would like off this list, please
let me know.

Senator Pam Roach has sponsored Senate Bill 6364 to ban "teak surfing".
She was prompted by one of her constituent organizations, the East
Pierce County Fire and Rescue. This agency had dealt with two tragic
deaths on Lake Tapps due to teak surfing. For info on bill language go
to: http://apps.leg.wa.gov/billinfo/summary.aspx?bill=6364

The hearing for this bill is on February 1st in Olympia. Unfortunately
it's at 8 AM, however Sen. Roach would like to have as many boaters as
possible show up to support this bill. RBAW supports this bill and
it's intent. There may be discussions to amend the bill for word
smithing purposes to clarify the term "teak surfing", but all for the
better. Clearly this is a bill all boating safety organizations should
have interest in and your participation at the hearing would be
welcomed by the bill's supporters.

RBAW plans to be there on the 1st. If anybody else can make it and
needs further information, directions, etc. please let me know. If you
want to testify PRO, you can say a few words why you or your
organization likes the bill. Otherwise, you can just sign in PRO "not
wanting to testify".

Thanks and let me know if any questions.
~David Kutz
RBAW President

Chuck,
I am concerned that the State of Washington is trying to override
Darwin's theories. One should not mess with Mother Nature.


I'll bite. What the hell is 'teak surfing'?
--
John H

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Not unless your exhaust is a foot from his nose.
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'Til next time,

John H

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FREDO
 
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Default Bill to ban "teak surfing" introduced in WA State

No its a ski tow rope length away from his nose. Besides anytime anyone is
on the water behind the boat less than 10 feet away the motor is off!

"JohnH" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 29 Jan 2006 07:03:50 GMT, "FREDO" wrote:

So if I throw a Ski rope behind Miss Daisy and drag my son thru the water
on
it at 2-3 mph is that also bad?


"JohnH" wrote in message
. ..
On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 06:53:26 -0500, Reggie Smithers
wrote:

wrote:
This memo is being sent to WAMBE & RBAW members because of your
interest in boating safety. If you would like off this list, please
let me know.

Senator Pam Roach has sponsored Senate Bill 6364 to ban "teak
surfing".
She was prompted by one of her constituent organizations, the East
Pierce County Fire and Rescue. This agency had dealt with two tragic
deaths on Lake Tapps due to teak surfing. For info on bill language
go
to: http://apps.leg.wa.gov/billinfo/summary.aspx?bill=6364

The hearing for this bill is on February 1st in Olympia.
Unfortunately
it's at 8 AM, however Sen. Roach would like to have as many boaters as
possible show up to support this bill. RBAW supports this bill and
it's intent. There may be discussions to amend the bill for word
smithing purposes to clarify the term "teak surfing", but all for the
better. Clearly this is a bill all boating safety organizations
should
have interest in and your participation at the hearing would be
welcomed by the bill's supporters.

RBAW plans to be there on the 1st. If anybody else can make it and
needs further information, directions, etc. please let me know. If
you
want to testify PRO, you can say a few words why you or your
organization likes the bill. Otherwise, you can just sign in PRO "not
wanting to testify".

Thanks and let me know if any questions.
~David Kutz
RBAW President

Chuck,
I am concerned that the State of Washington is trying to override
Darwin's theories. One should not mess with Mother Nature.

I'll bite. What the hell is 'teak surfing'?
--
John H

******************************************
***** Have a Spectacular Day! *****
******************************************



Not unless your exhaust is a foot from his nose.
--
'Til next time,

John H

******************************************
***** Have a Spectacular Day! *****
******************************************



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