"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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i cant tell the difference.

I can. My wallet is a hell of a lot lighter.

Eisboch

"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Fri, 20 Jan 2006 19:38:54 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


" JimH" jimh_osudad@yahooDOT comREMOVETHIS wrote in message
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But...........I do not intend to purchase a HD set until I have to. I
agree that the digital HD picture is spectacular but I don't want to
spend
the bucks right now to upgrade both my TV and cable service....it is not
that important to me and my wife is quite content.


So was Mrs.E and me until my big-mouthed son turned us onto the HD thing.
Can't go back now.

i cant tell the difference.


If so............you need to see your optometrist.

"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Fri, 20 Jan 2006 20:23:55 -0500, " JimH" jimh_osudad@yahooDOT
comREMOVETHIS wrote:


"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Fri, 20 Jan 2006 19:38:54 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


" JimH" jimh_osudad@yahooDOT comREMOVETHIS wrote in message
news:bsOdnTjZ6dhA4kzenZ2dnUVZ_tOdnZ2d@comcast. com...


But...........I do not intend to purchase a HD set until I have to. I
agree that the digital HD picture is spectacular but I don't want to
spend
the bucks right now to upgrade both my TV and cable service....it is
not
that important to me and my wife is quite content.


So was Mrs.E and me until my big-mouthed son turned us onto the HD
thing.
Can't go back now.

i cant tell the difference.

If so............you need to see your optometrist.

i can introduce you to at least ten to twelve people who can't tell
the difference.

i think its all bs myself.

You must get a terrific picture on your analogue TV and I am glad for you
for that fact. However, we get a good picture also but I can see a huge
difference between the picture on my analogue CRT 32" TV and each and every
HD digital set I see at Best Buy, Circuit City, Costco and Wal-Mart.

Maybe I need to see your optometrist. ;-)

Skipper wrote:
JimH wrote:


Every time I walk into retail stores like Best Buy or Circuit City that have
the HD TV's in view as you walk into the store I am blown away.
But...........I still cannot justify the cost.


You could be blown away for 4 bucks a month if you have digital now.

--
Skipper


Up here it would be more like $20.00 extra a month.
$5.00 for the service and $15.00 to rent the cable box that records
programs.

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"Skipper" wrote in message
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Advantage: DLP

--
Skipper

I think viewing habits must be considered as part of the compromise
you speak of.
For me, I doubt I watch the HD plasma set more than 6 hours a week,
not a day.
I am watching more of the Discovery channel and an occasional sports
event (or non-event in the case of the Patriots).

I spend more time watching and listening to music videos, and that's
only once or twice a week. BTW - for the new guitar hobbyists in the
NG - highly recommend the Eric Clapton "Crossroads" guitar festival
DVD (Reprise records). Two disk set, featuring some of the finest
contemporary guitarists including Clapton to B.B. King, Carlos Santana
and a sober Joe Walsh among many others. For those with good sound
systems, the audio options include 2 channel, Dolby Digital 5.1 and
DTS (recommended).

Eisboch


For me.........some local and cable news, some PBS programs like NOVA,
some shows on A&E, the History Channel or Discovery as well as some old
Seinfeld or Everybody Loves Raymond episodes. Perhaps 12 hours/week.
My wife OTOH is hooked on TV and always has been. And we both watch
DVD's, perhaps one or two per week.

We have 10 TV's in our house, all connected to cable:

Basement: My wife's office, the TV/sitting room, the game room area
(soon to add another at the treadmill).
Main Floor: Family room, kitchen, my office.
2nd Floor: All 4 bedrooms

I think this discussion/thread has talked me out of considering a
plasma HD set. While there is no way we are going to buy new HD for
all these rooms. I may consider replacing the 32" RCA TV we have in the
family room (now 14 years old but still working fine) in the near
future, most likely with a 36" HD CRT set. ;-)

Wouldn't wait too long on that 36" CRT set. According to Consumers, most
manufacturers are dropping the big tube models. You may be restricted
to 32" max in the near future.

OK. Thanks!

I bought my SONY HD at Circuit City. It wasn't on sale. At the point of
sale, I asked the salesman "is that the best you can do on price?" He
knocked $250 off the price.

It doesn't hurt to ask.


Indeed.

But...........I do not intend to purchase a HD set until I have to. I agree
that the digital HD picture is spectacular but I don't want to spend the
bucks right now to upgrade both my TV and cable service....it is not that
important to me and my wife is quite content.


Tried Sears tonight...they don't have the CRT HD model I want.
Went back to the Sony store and kept the salesman dancing.
They had my model on display, but I balked at the extra $400.00 for the
matching stand. Then he tried to convince me we'd be just as happy with
the 26" Bravia LCD model. The wife balked....no way she wanted to go
smaller. Best deal he could give me on the 32" Bravia LCD model was
$2600.00 which included the extended warranty. I got cold feet
then...and we ended back at the CRT model for $ 1200.00.
Figure we can get a stand somewhere cheaper and better (for housing
cable box, DVD player, Home Theater receiver).
He's got my number & will call when units arrive.
In the meantime I have to suffer with a 20" set.

Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:
On Fri, 20 Jan 2006 19:38:54 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:

" JimH" jimh_osudad@yahooDOT comREMOVETHIS wrote in message
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But...........I do not intend to purchase a HD set until I have to. I
agree that the digital HD picture is spectacular but I don't want to spend
the bucks right now to upgrade both my TV and cable service....it is not
that important to me and my wife is quite content.

So was Mrs.E and me until my big-mouthed son turned us onto the HD thing.
Can't go back now.

i cant tell the difference.
That is because you are old and blind, with a broken wing.

--
Reggie
******

On Sat, 21 Jan 2006 01:56:53 GMT, Shortwave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Fri, 20 Jan 2006 20:23:55 -0500, " JimH" jimh_osudad@yahooDOT
comREMOVETHIS wrote:


"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Fri, 20 Jan 2006 19:38:54 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


" JimH" jimh_osudad@yahooDOT comREMOVETHIS wrote in message
news:bsOdnTjZ6dhA4kzenZ2dnUVZ_tOdnZ2d@comcast. com...


But...........I do not intend to purchase a HD set until I have to. I
agree that the digital HD picture is spectacular but I don't want to
spend
the bucks right now to upgrade both my TV and cable service....it is not
that important to me and my wife is quite content.


So was Mrs.E and me until my big-mouthed son turned us onto the HD thing.
Can't go back now.

i cant tell the difference.

If so............you need to see your optometrist.

i can introduce you to at least ten to twelve people who can't tell
the difference.

i think its all bs myself.

If I have friends over and switch the channel from the regular NBC to High
Def NBC, they are invariable amazed at the difference, especially during a
sporting event.

If you can't tell the difference in a comparison like this, then you *do*
have an eyeball problem. Does everything appear a little fuzzy and soft
around the edges?
--
John H

******Have a spectacular day!******

On Sat, 21 Jan 2006 04:26:10 GMT, Don White wrote:

JimH wrote:
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JimH wrote:

"Don White" wrote in message
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JimH wrote:

"Eisboch" wrote in message
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"Skipper" wrote in message
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Advantage: DLP

--
Skipper

I think viewing habits must be considered as part of the compromise
you speak of.
For me, I doubt I watch the HD plasma set more than 6 hours a week,
not a day.
I am watching more of the Discovery channel and an occasional sports
event (or non-event in the case of the Patriots).

I spend more time watching and listening to music videos, and that's
only once or twice a week. BTW - for the new guitar hobbyists in the
NG - highly recommend the Eric Clapton "Crossroads" guitar festival
DVD (Reprise records). Two disk set, featuring some of the finest
contemporary guitarists including Clapton to B.B. King, Carlos Santana
and a sober Joe Walsh among many others. For those with good sound
systems, the audio options include 2 channel, Dolby Digital 5.1 and
DTS (recommended).

Eisboch


For me.........some local and cable news, some PBS programs like NOVA,
some shows on A&E, the History Channel or Discovery as well as some old
Seinfeld or Everybody Loves Raymond episodes. Perhaps 12 hours/week.
My wife OTOH is hooked on TV and always has been. And we both watch
DVD's, perhaps one or two per week.

We have 10 TV's in our house, all connected to cable:

Basement: My wife's office, the TV/sitting room, the game room area
(soon to add another at the treadmill).
Main Floor: Family room, kitchen, my office.
2nd Floor: All 4 bedrooms

I think this discussion/thread has talked me out of considering a
plasma HD set. While there is no way we are going to buy new HD for
all these rooms. I may consider replacing the 32" RCA TV we have in the
family room (now 14 years old but still working fine) in the near
future, most likely with a 36" HD CRT set. ;-)

Wouldn't wait too long on that 36" CRT set. According to Consumers, most
manufacturers are dropping the big tube models. You may be restricted
to 32" max in the near future.

OK. Thanks!

I bought my SONY HD at Circuit City. It wasn't on sale. At the point of
sale, I asked the salesman "is that the best you can do on price?" He
knocked $250 off the price.

It doesn't hurt to ask.


Indeed.

But...........I do not intend to purchase a HD set until I have to. I agree
that the digital HD picture is spectacular but I don't want to spend the
bucks right now to upgrade both my TV and cable service....it is not that
important to me and my wife is quite content.


Tried Sears tonight...they don't have the CRT HD model I want.
Went back to the Sony store and kept the salesman dancing.
They had my model on display, but I balked at the extra $400.00 for the
matching stand. Then he tried to convince me we'd be just as happy with
the 26" Bravia LCD model. The wife balked....no way she wanted to go
smaller. Best deal he could give me on the 32" Bravia LCD model was
$2600.00 which included the extended warranty. I got cold feet
then...and we ended back at the CRT model for $ 1200.00.
Figure we can get a stand somewhere cheaper and better (for housing
cable box, DVD player, Home Theater receiver).
He's got my number & will call when units arrive.
In the meantime I have to suffer with a 20" set.

So which model did you get? I got the stand with mine, and I'm glad I did.
It has shelves for the accessories and 'fits' the footprint of the TV so it
will slide back into a corner pretty well. Maybe he'd deal on the stand a
little.
--
John H

******Have a spectacular day!******

"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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i am convinced that the only difference between hd and regular analoug
tv with a digital cable is brightness - every hd screen ive seen is
much brighter which lends itself to crisper colors, but in dark scenes
in a movie or tv show, they are exactly the same - the definition
doesnt matter.

i watched the lord of the rings trilogy on the hd tv in the living
room and when my arm was operated on, watched it in the wreck room -
my office - there really wasnt much difference.


Tom, I really am surprised that you don't notice that much of a difference -
so much so that I wonder if you, like many others, *think* or were led to
believe they were watching HD, but in fact where not.

My brother recently got sucked into the HD thing - (pre Patriots demise).
He bought a true HD Phillips 42" plasma set, got "the box" and watched it
for a week thinking it was HD. He called me one night and told me the
plasma tv picture was great, but he really couldn't see the big advantage of
the HD programming. I told him I was surprised and had expected a call from
him with a "Holy ****!" Turns out he had the system hooked up wrong and
was watching everything in digital, but at 480i. We did some basic
troubleshooting over the phone (his house cable system was a mess, RG-59u
instead of RG-6, multiple splitters without benefit of a distribution amp,
etc., but his biggest problem was that he plugged the cable into a RF
modulator box and then to the antenna input of the plasma set. He basically
was converting everything back to 480i.

We got the wiring straightened out, switched on the NFL game of the week in
HD and his jaw dropped. First thing out of his mouth was "Holy ****!"

I've done a bit of tweaking with my 50" Samsung, mostly with the color
drives. I don't like overly bright or over-driven color. I've got it
tweaked in nice now in the custom setup mode where the colors look very
natural and the contrast between dark and bright is optimized. Also, I have
found that some of the older movies on HBO don't have the clear resolution
of some of the more modern films or live broadcasts using HD cameras. The
Discovery Channel offers some of the best HD content I've seen.

So, I am wondering, are you really seeing HD? To most, the difference
between regular and HD is not subtle - it's breathtaking.

Don't ask me about HD CRT displays. I don't want to start a debate, but,
(can't help it) as good as CRTs are in terms of color purity and contrast,
few of the "HD" CRT monitors being sold now are capable of displaying true
HD. They don't have the required vertical resolution, and you will soon be
seeing some action being taken as to how they are being advertised. CRTs
will become obsolete, for this application, in the next 3-4 years.

Eisboch

"Eisboch" wrote in message
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"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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i am convinced that the only difference between hd and regular analoug
tv with a digital cable is brightness - every hd screen ive seen is
much brighter which lends itself to crisper colors, but in dark scenes
in a movie or tv show, they are exactly the same - the definition
doesnt matter.

i watched the lord of the rings trilogy on the hd tv in the living
room and when my arm was operated on, watched it in the wreck room -
my office - there really wasnt much difference.



WAIT a minute. It just hit me. You said you watched the Lord of the Rings
Trilogy on a HD set and (I assume) a regular set in your wreck room and
couldn't detect much of a difference.

Your source material was a DVD , correct? No wonder! DVD is not HD. It's
in a 480i or 480p format. You were not watching HD.

Eisboch