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Ahhh February 14 th is coming. ( Vanintines day .)
I will be in the post office with hundreds of racey Valentines cards saying personal improper things to gentlemen. Channel # 5 in a spray bottle and lipstick on a tissue being liberaly spread. Business will flurish with or without doubles. Devorce lawyer. In truth I am not a lawyer. But I could not resist. Alex |
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Hi John.
This string became fun a little while ago. I like doubles for a couple of reasons and I dislike them for others. This couple is looking at a paddle in calm conditions: Perfect for a big old double. The 6' seas you tallk about would be out of the question for some of the other options around. I preffer singles but a double is a way to put challenged individuals on the water, Blind people can hear, smell and taste the spray from whales. You can take a friend from a wheelchair to a double, then the double out to see bergs and whales. Devorce boats are good for all sorts of things. Filming a superb paddler rock hop on an ice berg with a cameraman clutching a $40,000 camera can be done from a double. I have done this. I think a double may be an idea for the original poster. Alex |
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KMAN said: "They call them "divorce boats" because spouse x wants to
paddle up the east shoreline while spouse y wants to paddle up the west shoreline." I think they call them 'divorce boats' because spouse X and spouse Y both wanted to stay dry, but they dumped. And spouse X blames spouse Y and spouse Y blames spouse X. And just like sqeezing the damn toothpaste from the middle, over time the little grudge grows and grows and GROWS until ITS JUST TOO DAMN HARD TO PADDLE WITH YOU, YOU STUPID CONTROL FREAK WATCH OUT FOR THAT ROCK THIS IS JUST LIKE THAT TIME WITH THE KIDS WHEN YOU LET THEM STAY UP LATE AND I WANTED THEM TO LISTEN TO WHAT I HAD TO SAY AND HEY YOU DELIBERATELY LET THAT WAVE SOAK ME YOU LOOK LIKE YOUR FREAKING MOTHER OR FATHER AND HEY!!! DON'T STEER US THERE CAN'T YOU SEE WHERE YOU'RE GOING?? I CANNOT DEAL WITH THIS ANYMORE MR EXPERT PADDLER IT WAS YOUR FAULT WE DUMPED BACK THERE GET ME OUT OF THE GODAMNED CANOE YOU NEVER LISTEN TO WHAT I'M TELLING YOU WHEN WE GET TO SHORE I"M CALLING MY LAWYER I HATE YOU YOU STUPID IDIOT!! :-) --riverman |
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riverman wrote:
I think they call them 'divorce boats' because spouse X and spouse Y both wanted to stay dry, but they dumped. And spouse X blames spouse Y and spouse Y blames spouse X.... LOL The beginner river I use for training has one, count 'em, one rapid in the first day's section. Total drop of the rapid is maybe 2 feet. Maybe less, and it's a straight shot down the center of the river. You have to do a number of things wrong to flip in it, and so far, only one boat, a tandem crewed by a married couple, has managed that feat. They self-rescued and i saw them in the pool below the drop, talking animatedly. Seeing this as a good instructional opportunity, a "teachable moment" as we say in the biz, I paddled over and started my spiel "Let's talk about why you..." The woman turned away from her partner and fixed me with a hard glare. "If you DON'T mind, we're still arguing." No info as to whether they are still paddling the same boat, or even still paddling. However, I do know several very accomplished tandem teams who are still very happily coupled. Steve |
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John, I'll be the last one to point at the tandem boat instead of the
paddlers involved for finding the source of the problem. Of course, things like communication, trust, cooperation, honesty, awareness and respect all play much bigger roles in making a tandem team (or a relationship) work or not. IMNSHO the main problem is that many couples who think that they have a good relationship, don't. Finding out on the river that you're not communicating but talking to each other, that cooperation is something else than a fight for domination, that it's better to have the most experienced boater set the course instead of the most dominant one... A lot can go wrong in a relationship, but tandem kayaking is a good way of finding out how well a couple really gets along and brining out some deeper lying problems. I think that it's better to have that possible surprise out on the table before people get into tandem boating. For me, it strengthened and deepened my friendship and it also helped improve my relationship, but I've seen the opposite happen often enough to be the one to warn about it. Wilko -- Wilko van den Bergh wilkoa t)dse(d otnl Eindhoven The Netherlands Europe ---Look at the possibilities, don't worry about the limitations.--- http://www.kayaker.nl/ |
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"riverman" wrote in message
oups.com... And just like sqeezing the damn toothpaste from the middle, over time the little grudge grows and grows and GROWS until ITS JUST TOO DAMN HARD TO PADDLE WITH YOU, YOU STUPID CONTROL FREAK WATCH OUT FOR THAT ROCK THIS IS JUST LIKE THAT TIME WITH THE KIDS WHEN YOU LET THEM STAY UP LATE AND I WANTED THEM TO LISTEN TO WHAT I HAD TO SAY AND HEY YOU DELIBERATELY LET THAT WAVE SOAK ME YOU LOOK LIKE YOUR FREAKING MOTHER OR FATHER AND HEY!!! DON'T STEER US THERE CAN'T YOU SEE WHERE YOU'RE GOING?? I CANNOT DEAL WITH THIS ANYMORE MR EXPERT PADDLER IT WAS YOUR FAULT WE DUMPED BACK THERE GET ME OUT OF THE GODAMNED CANOE YOU NEVER LISTEN TO WHAT I'M TELLING YOU WHEN WE GET TO SHORE I"M CALLING MY LAWYER I HATE YOU YOU STUPID IDIOT!! LOL! That hits a little too close to home :-) I once tried paddling tandem with my father on a 2-day trip. It was a *very* long, very *wet* two days. I've also tried paddling tandem with a couple of other people and somehow it never works out well. Well, except for one particular guy--we had fun though he was a much stronger and better paddler than me. Hmm...I'm the common denominator in the equation so I guess that doesn't speak well for me! ;-) Rebecca Lightning |
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"Wilko van den Bergh" wrote in message oups.com... IMNSHO the main problem is that many couples who think that they have a good relationship, don't. Finding out on the river that you're not communicating but talking to each other, that cooperation is something else than a fight for domination, that it's better to have the most experienced boater set the course instead of the most dominant one... A lot can go wrong in a relationship, but tandem kayaking is a good way of finding out how well a couple really gets along and brining out some deeper lying problems. Wilko, I think you make a very valid point here... Rebecca Lightning |
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"riverman" wrote in message oups.com... KMAN said: "They call them "divorce boats" because spouse x wants to paddle up the east shoreline while spouse y wants to paddle up the west shoreline." I think they call them 'divorce boats' because spouse X and spouse Y both wanted to stay dry, but they dumped. And spouse X blames spouse Y and spouse Y blames spouse X. And just like sqeezing the damn toothpaste from the middle, over time the little grudge grows and grows and GROWS until ITS JUST TOO DAMN HARD TO PADDLE WITH YOU, YOU STUPID CONTROL FREAK WATCH OUT FOR THAT ROCK THIS IS JUST LIKE THAT TIME WITH THE KIDS WHEN YOU LET THEM STAY UP LATE AND I WANTED THEM TO LISTEN TO WHAT I HAD TO SAY AND HEY YOU DELIBERATELY LET THAT WAVE SOAK ME YOU LOOK LIKE YOUR FREAKING MOTHER OR FATHER AND HEY!!! DON'T STEER US THERE CAN'T YOU SEE WHERE YOU'RE GOING?? I CANNOT DEAL WITH THIS ANYMORE MR EXPERT PADDLER IT WAS YOUR FAULT WE DUMPED BACK THERE GET ME OUT OF THE GODAMNED CANOE YOU NEVER LISTEN TO WHAT I'M TELLING YOU WHEN WE GET TO SHORE I"M CALLING MY LAWYER I HATE YOU YOU STUPID IDIOT!! :-) --riverman Yes, there's that, as well. |
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"rlightning" wrote in message
... "Wilko van den Bergh" wrote in message oups.com... IMNSHO the main problem is that many couples who think that they have a good relationship, don't. Finding out on the river that you're not communicating but talking to each other, that cooperation is something else than a fight for domination, that it's better to have the most experienced boater set the course instead of the most dominant one... A lot can go wrong in a relationship, but tandem kayaking is a good way of finding out how well a couple really gets along and brining out some deeper lying problems. Wilko, I think you make a very valid point here... Rebecca Lightning I think it's total horse****. A couple could get along in a tandem kayak because their relationship is already broken and they can't function as independent equals. |
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