"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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Don White wrote:
Reggie Smithers wrote:
I had to look up Component Video Inputs to see what they are .....

They are just RCA plugs.



here's what Consumer Reports says...

"Component-video inputs split the video signal into three parts: two for
color and one for luminance. This provides slightly better quality than
S-video, most evident in color fidelity. They're often used with DVD
players, high-definition satellite receivers, and cable boxes. What it
looks like: red, green, and blue RCA jacks."


They're also used to connect CD players, tuners, and suchlike to amps and
receivers. I run a pair of these jacks directly from my DVD player into my
NAD amplifier, and bypass the TV set's audio circuits. I also run a pair
of jacks out of my TV set to the amp, so that when the broadcast program
has some good sound to offer, I can control it.

Same connectors, different signals.

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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JimH wrote:
"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
news
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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I finally got around to looking at the manuals for a TV set and DVD
player we have, and noticed there was a "new" way to hook them up
together, with an "HDMI" cable. The cable is supposed to provide the
highest possible video quality from a DVD to the TV set, and it also
carries audio signals.

$100+ for the manufacturer's branded cable, same price for a "Monster"
cable. Unbelievable. The fittings on the cable sort of resemble the
flat ones on a USB cable, but they are not the same.

$100, for what I am sure is a perfectly ordinary cable. I had no idea
SONY had been taken over by the boating industry.

Anyway, I shopped around for a while, and found a no-name supplier who
has the cable for *only* $35. Sheesh. For a 6' cable with two 50-cent
ends on it.

Margins are pretty slim in the video biz. Accessories are the answer. By
the way, Monster Cable is pretty good stuff. They manufacturer them a
little slower. Better solder connections, etc etc....


S-Video is the way to go when connecting the DVD to the TV.

BTW: Monster cables are overrated and overpriced.


I shouldn't bother, but SONY and other top drawer manufacturers disagree
with your opinion that "S-Video" is the way to go. My SONY manuals say
"component" video inputs offer the best video quality for DVD and digital
setop box connections. That's what I am using now, and it is noticeably
better than "S-Video," which is what I used first because the cable came
with the DVD. But the manuals also state the "best" input interface for an
HD TV is HDMI. Several other manufacturers of decent TVs and DVD players
state the exact same thing. Oh, and so does Crutchfield, from whom I
obtained a piece of gear. The exact quote: "using component video input
will result in a better image quality than S Video."

Frankly, I don't know what your area of expertise is, but it doesn't seem
to be computers or consumer electronics.

Harry, be nice...the guy was right in his time, he's just been outdated.
Until component inputs were available S-VHS was the best connector. He
probably doesn't have a HD TV with component cables so for him S-VHS IS the
best connector.

Then came DVI then HDMI. And HDMI is not always the best connector for your
TV, usually is though. Depends on which device has the best video
converter. On the higher end HD SONY TV's they have very good video
processing so I'd suspect that in your case HDMI is the best interface.

" JimH" jimh_osudad@yahooDOT com wrote in message
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"Eisboch" wrote in message
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"Reggie Smithers" wrote in message
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I had to look up Component Video Inputs to see what they are .....

They are just RCA plugs.



No they are not. Well, yes the plugs are RCA, but the whole transmission
system is different. A basic primer:

Yellow "video" (composite) plug with RCA jacks are nothing more than
audio type wires and connectors. These are the ones that are packaged
with every audio/video device and are of the poorest quality in terms of
transmission of a video signal.

Higher quality video coaxial cable - RCA plugs again, but the wire is of
better quality, the dielectrics used are better, the shielding is better
and the resultant reactive impedance is more consistent. Much better
than the cheap "yellow" audio wires for video.

S-Video - DIN type connector - twisted pair of shielded wires for video
signal transmission - usually differentially inputted - better quality
transmission for video than both above.

Component cables. High quality RCA plugs - usually gold plated, but the
main difference is the video transmission scheme. Simply put, component
cables transmit the Blue, Green and Red components of the video signal
individually and are then recombined in the proper sync and levels at the
TV, monitor or whatever the video display is. By separating each drive
color, losses in the cables are compensated for. Best way to transmit
video.

HDMI - high quality lines for both video and digital audio. Basically,
mini coax versions of the component cables that allow for high bandwidth
signals with low loss or distortion.

Eisboch


You are a good man if you can tell the difference in picture quality when
using component cables vs. S-video.

Add a bad signal from the cable company or sat. TV provider and
poof.......

It is all hype........and all touted by the manufacturers and retailers.

And looking at the differences in prices...........I can understand why.

Hurry folks.............lookie see.......Jenuwine gold plating and
assembled only in kosher kitchens during a full moon. Git em while yew
can.. ;-)

I can see major difference when using component inputs, there is NO video
ringing and color saturation is better. Of course the better the TV the
more YOU can see the difference. With a non-HD or cheap HD TV it's hard to
see the difference.

I have seen NO difference between component cables (cheap to expensive)
doesn't mean their isn't, just I can't see the difference. Between
component to HDMI, a slight difference but that is always the difference in
the video converter (digital to analog). By the way a HDMI or DVI cable
carries the digital signal a component cable carries analog.

Ok, enough is enough.

A few weeks before Christmas all of this talk about Digital SLR cost me
over $500.

Now all this talk about Plasma Flat Screens, S-Video and Component Cables
made me realize my stereo is over 5 yrs old. my DVD is 3 yrs old, my Flat
CRT TV is 4 yrs. old, and I am not using S-Video or Component Cables.

I think this thread just cost me over $7000.
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"Reggie Smithers" wrote in message
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Ok, enough is enough.

A few weeks before Christmas all of this talk about Digital SLR cost me
over $500.

Now all this talk about Plasma Flat Screens, S-Video and Component Cables
made me realize my stereo is over 5 yrs old. my DVD is 3 yrs old, my Flat
CRT TV is 4 yrs. old, and I am not using S-Video or Component Cables.

I think this thread just cost me over $7000.
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LOL!

Eisboch

JimH wrote:
"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
news

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
I finally got around to looking at the manuals for a TV set and DVD player
we have, and noticed there was a "new" way to hook them up together, with
an "HDMI" cable. The cable is supposed to provide the highest possible
video quality from a DVD to the TV set, and it also carries audio signals.

$100+ for the manufacturer's branded cable, same price for a "Monster"
cable. Unbelievable. The fittings on the cable sort of resemble the flat
ones on a USB cable, but they are not the same.

$100, for what I am sure is a perfectly ordinary cable. I had no idea
SONY had been taken over by the boating industry.

Anyway, I shopped around for a while, and found a no-name supplier who
has the cable for *only* $35. Sheesh. For a 6' cable with two 50-cent
ends on it.


Margins are pretty slim in the video biz. Accessories are the answer. By
the way, Monster Cable is pretty good stuff. They manufacturer them a
little slower. Better solder connections, etc etc....


S-Video is the way to go when connecting the DVD to the TV.

Jim, you may want to do some research, SVideo is outdated, obsolete
technology.

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JimH wrote:
"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
news

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
I finally got around to looking at the manuals for a TV set and DVD
player
we have, and noticed there was a "new" way to hook them up together,
with
an "HDMI" cable. The cable is supposed to provide the highest possible
video quality from a DVD to the TV set, and it also carries audio
signals.

$100+ for the manufacturer's branded cable, same price for a "Monster"
cable. Unbelievable. The fittings on the cable sort of resemble the
flat
ones on a USB cable, but they are not the same.

$100, for what I am sure is a perfectly ordinary cable. I had no idea
SONY had been taken over by the boating industry.

Anyway, I shopped around for a while, and found a no-name supplier who
has the cable for *only* $35. Sheesh. For a 6' cable with two 50-cent
ends on it.


Margins are pretty slim in the video biz. Accessories are the answer.
By
the way, Monster Cable is pretty good stuff. They manufacturer them a
little slower. Better solder connections, etc etc....


S-Video is the way to go when connecting the DVD to the TV.

Jim, you may want to do some research, SVideo is outdated, obsolete
technology.


I guess so. We do not have digital cable or HD tv sets so the S-video works
just fine for us.

JimH wrote:
"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

"Reggie Smithers" wrote in message
...
I had to look up Component Video Inputs to see what they are .....

They are just RCA plugs.



No they are not. Well, yes the plugs are RCA, but the whole transmission
system is different. A basic primer:

Yellow "video" (composite) plug with RCA jacks are nothing more than audio
type wires and connectors. These are the ones that are packaged with
every audio/video device and are of the poorest quality in terms of
transmission of a video signal.

Higher quality video coaxial cable - RCA plugs again, but the wire is of
better quality, the dielectrics used are better, the shielding is better
and the resultant reactive impedance is more consistent. Much better than
the cheap "yellow" audio wires for video.

S-Video - DIN type connector - twisted pair of shielded wires for video
signal transmission - usually differentially inputted - better quality
transmission for video than both above.

Component cables. High quality RCA plugs - usually gold plated, but the
main difference is the video transmission scheme. Simply put, component
cables transmit the Blue, Green and Red components of the video signal
individually and are then recombined in the proper sync and levels at the
TV, monitor or whatever the video display is. By separating each drive
color, losses in the cables are compensated for. Best way to transmit
video.

HDMI - high quality lines for both video and digital audio. Basically,
mini coax versions of the component cables that allow for high bandwidth
signals with low loss or distortion.

Eisboch


You are a good man if you can tell the difference in picture quality when
using component cables vs. S-video.

Add a bad signal from the cable company or sat. TV provider and poof.......

It is all hype........and all touted by the manufacturers and retailers.

And looking at the differences in prices...........I can understand why.

Hurry folks.............lookie see.......Jenuwine gold plating and assembled
only in kosher kitchens during a full moon. Git em while yew can.. ;-)

You probably should go back to rabbit ears and a black and white tv
using your reasoning.

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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JimH wrote:


I guess so. We do not have digital cable or HD tv sets so the S-video
works just fine for us.


Comcast hasn't gone to "digital" cable in your part of the country?

Many subscribers, me included up until a few days ago, just have a basic
cable service meaning there is no cable box. The cable is simply hooked up
to the VHF antenna input on the TV and you use the TV tuner to choose the
channels. In this case, all channels are analog.

Eisboch

"Eisboch" wrote in message
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"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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JimH wrote:


I guess so. We do not have digital cable or HD tv sets so the S-video
works just fine for us.


Comcast hasn't gone to "digital" cable in your part of the country?

Many subscribers, me included up until a few days ago, just have a basic
cable service meaning there is no cable box. The cable is simply hooked
up to the VHF antenna input on the TV and you use the TV tuner to choose
the channels. In this case, all channels are analog.

Eisboch

We have analog also although digital is offered. I just refuse to pay the
extra bucks for it.