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"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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Twenty ounces of beef? You guys order that much beef? Do you eat it all,
or do you take it home for snacks the next few days?

Well, there's a pretty good bone in the T-bone, but no, none gets taken
home! Lot's of exercise!
--
John H


I hardly ever order a steak at a restaurant. Once in a while, I'll order a
small prime rib, because prime rib is not something I cook at home. When
we eat out, I usually do not order what I cook.

When I lived in KC, back when the stockyards were still active, there were
at least a dozen restaurants in the downtown area where you could buy a
first-class steak dinner (12 ounce steak, baked spud, salad) for $2.50,
and the beef was prime. I "steaked out" my first year on the paper. There
was also a sort of diner place called "Nichols Restaurant" or maybe it was
"Nichols Lunch" where you could buy steak and eggs with toast for 99
cents.

Great hamburgers, too, at a place called Winsteds.

In my days in KC, the ballpark was downtown, within walking distance of
Bryants' Barbecue, considered the best barbecue in the world. Really.
Sometimes I'd get assigned to write a "crowd" story on a particular ball
game, an assignment I relished, because the pressbox copy boys would be
dispatched to Bryants to bring back all the barbecue they could carry.
There was always a keg in the press box.

Those were the days.


WayneB recently posted a pic of the traditional ICW stopover at Coinjock,
NC. The restaurant there offers a 32 oz prime rib that was absolutely
delicious. We stopped there a few years ago on the way to Florida and each
of us ordered the mega prime. We had leftovers for steak sandwiches for at
least half of the remaining trip.

Interesting place.

http://www.mirage-mfg.com/html/coinjock.html

Eisboch

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On Tue, 27 Dec 2005 11:21:38 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:

WayneB recently posted a pic of the traditional ICW stopover at Coinjock,
NC. The restaurant there offers a 32 oz prime rib that was absolutely
delicious.

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Oh yes, just got some hunger pangs thinking about it. We were there
for 5 days which is probably some sort of record (good WiFi
connection, working from boat, etc.). The GB49 was frequently the
smallest boat on the 1200 ft dock.

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Harry Krause wrote:

I won't deny the taste of a good rib roast, which is why I usually order
it when I order beef in a restaurant. But I don't order beef that often.

My father in law, the jokester who always sends me the 1/24 scale
Porsche, usually includes a bunch of restaurant gift cards. I got a nice
one this year for Outback, which is NOT on my list of places I like, but
I noticed on the back of the card that it also works at Carrabba's,
which I do like. It's one of my favorite "chain" restaurants. And it
works at the Bonefish Grill, which I have not yet tried.

Just not a big "beouf" fan, I guess.


The first time I went to Carrabbas I didn't know it was a chain. When
one opened up by the house I was very surprised. The look and the food
fooled me. I haven't had a bad meal there in a dozen visits.

The Bonefish Grill is a good, but not great, place for seafood. People
away from the coast may disagree.

Dan

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"Doug Kanter" wrote
This is a serious question: What's the most effective, yet socially
acceptable way to get SOMEONE ELSE'S dog to stop jumping on you,


John Gaquin wrote:
Dogs don't understand English. At best, they have a tenuous, rudimentary
grasp of a few English words, but they're really just unintelligible sounds
that sometimes produce a desired result. You have to speak dog. Widen your
eyes, stare directly into his eyes, bare your teeth way back, and growl deep
in your throat, loud. If he's smaller than you and thinks you're highly
****ed, he'll back off. Works for me.


Risky and time consuming. I'd suggest taking the dog by the
loose fur on his back just before the shoulderblades (it is
a little further back than "the scruff of the neck" but if
you get a handfull of scruff of the neck, that'll work too)
and hold the dog away from you, with his front feet off the
ground momentarily, then set him down and push him down just
a little further.

This is dog language for "I'm bigger & stronger & smarter
than you, not to mention the advanage of opposable thumbs."
It also engages the reflex of all puppies when carried by
their mothers... to go limp and be submissive.

I would not bare my teeth & growl at a dog unless I was
either very sure he was going to submit, or was holding a
machete. Even a medium dog can tear holes in your hide if he
decides it's time to throw down. Many dogs will not back
down for a strange human, especially if they have any chow
genes.

FWIW I agree that dogs don't speak English, but if you raise
them to be oriented towards human speech, and pay attention
the their signals, you can communicate amazingly well with them.

Regards
Doug King

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On Wed, 28 Dec 2005 11:47:10 GMT, Shortwave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Tue, 27 Dec 2005 22:56:48 -0500, DSK wrote:

"Doug Kanter" wrote
This is a serious question: What's the most effective, yet socially
acceptable way to get SOMEONE ELSE'S dog to stop jumping on you,


John Gaquin wrote:
Dogs don't understand English. At best, they have a tenuous, rudimentary
grasp of a few English words, but they're really just unintelligible sounds
that sometimes produce a desired result. You have to speak dog. Widen your
eyes, stare directly into his eyes, bare your teeth way back, and growl deep
in your throat, loud. If he's smaller than you and thinks you're highly
****ed, he'll back off. Works for me.


Risky and time consuming. I'd suggest taking the dog by the
loose fur on his back just before the shoulderblades (it is
a little further back than "the scruff of the neck" but if
you get a handfull of scruff of the neck, that'll work too)
and hold the dog away from you, with his front feet off the
ground momentarily, then set him down and push him down just
a little further.

You are leaving his/her head free to grab your arm and that can hurt.

The only true way to subdue a dog in an aggressive situation is to
basically pick it up put it on it's back with you hand on it's throat.
That is the total Alpha power position and I learned that in the
service. Did it with a 110 lb German Shepard, just flipped her on her
back, grabbed her throat and after a little struggle, she was very
wary of me.

The other best way to control a dog who jumps on you is to grab their
paws - they hate that.

Good morning. What was the picture of?
--
John H

**** May your Christmas be Spectacular!****
*****...and your New Year even Better!*****

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"DSK" wrote in message
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I would not bare my teeth & growl at a dog unless I was either very sure
he was going to submit, or was holding a machete.

I'll do it if a dog behind a fence raises a ruckus when I'm out for a walk
on a night that was previously beautiful and quiet. There are two in my
neighborhood that go completely bonkers, even if pedestrians are across the
street. Pain in the ass. I send them into fits, which guarantees that their
owners are annoyed as much as their dogs annoy me.

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... I'd suggest taking the dog by the
loose fur on his back just before the shoulderblades (it is
a little further back than "the scruff of the neck" but if
you get a handfull of scruff of the neck, that'll work too)
and hold the dog away from you, with his front feet off the
ground momentarily, then set him down and push him down just
a little further.


Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:
You are leaving his/her head free to grab your arm and that can hurt.

Umm, no.

If you're holding the dog by the scruff of the neck, he'd
need articulated telescoping jaws to bite your arm.

That's ignoring the fact that when you hold a dogs weight by
that spot, their instinct is to go limp. It also engages a
submission reflex.



The only true way to subdue a dog in an aggressive situation is to
basically pick it up put it on it's back with you hand on it's throat.

That works too, but requires a bit more time & effort and is
likely to involve you in an undiginified struggle
(as well as risk of getting bitten).


The other best way to control a dog who jumps on you is to grab their
paws - they hate that.

And he can't bite you then????

BTW if you grab a dog's paws, you will make him paranoid
about that forever... many dogs are already sensitive about
it... making the clipping of their nails and other
maintenance chores VERY problematic.

If you grabbed my dogs paws, I'd tell you quite directly to
NEVER do that again. Of course, my dog doesn't jump on
people, either.

DSK

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John Gaquin wrote:

Merry Christmas to all! (even Democrats) :-)

Happy holidays to all, even idiots.

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John Gaquin wrote:

Merry Christmas to all! (even Democrats) :-)

Happy holidays to all, even idiots.

I think that is one of the first names to have been called in over a week.

--
John H.

"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to resolve it."
Rene Descartes

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"JohnH" wrote in message
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On 2 Jan 2006 04:25:27 -0800, wrote:


John Gaquin wrote:

Merry Christmas to all! (even Democrats) :-)

Happy holidays to all, even idiots.

I think that is one of the first names to have been called in over a
week.

Besides harry's snarky ones, yes I believe you are correct. Why am I not
surprised that it is kevin.


--
John H.

"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary
to resolve it."
Rene Descartes