Aweful quiet in here................
 

...........all the guys must be out finally getting that Christmas gift for
their wives.

You guys give the rest of us a bad name!

Anyway, the turkey is stuffed and has been cooking for about an hour.
Guests arrive after 1.

Merry Christmas folks.

Aweful quiet in here................
 

" JimH" wrote in message
...
..........all the guys must be out finally getting that Christmas gift for
their wives.

You guys give the rest of us a bad name!

Anyway, the turkey is stuffed and has been cooking for about an hour.
Guests arrive after 1.

Merry Christmas folks.


I'm busy cleaning the guns and setting up the razor wire. If anyone comes
down MY chimney, he's not going back up. There's something strange about a
holiday when you're supposed to not only *wish* for an intruder, but also
leave food out for him.

Aweful quiet in here................
 

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message news:%3erf.1945

...... There's something strange about a holiday when you're supposed to
not only *wish* for an intruder, but also leave food out for him.

But Dougie.......don't you get it? Its a lefties wet dream!!! Somebody
shows up right on schedule, and delivers free stuff right to your house!
You don't have to qualify, ...you don't even have to show him an ID card!

Merry Christmas to all! (even Democrats) :-)

Aweful quiet in here................
 

JimH wrote:
..........all the guys must be out finally getting that Christmas gift for
their wives.

You guys give the rest of us a bad name!

Anyway, the turkey is stuffed and has been cooking for about an hour.
Guests arrive after 1.

Merry Christmas folks.



Merry christmas to you and everyone in the newsgroup.
Happy holidays to anyone celebrating other than Christmas.

Cooking that turkey already? We do it Christmas Day.
My assigned duties today include cleaning the upstairs bathroom top to
bottom.

Aweful quiet in here................
 

"Don White" wrote in message
...
JimH wrote:
..........all the guys must be out finally getting that Christmas gift
for their wives.

You guys give the rest of us a bad name!

Anyway, the turkey is stuffed and has been cooking for about an hour.
Guests arrive after 1.

Merry Christmas folks.

Merry christmas to you and everyone in the newsgroup.
Happy holidays to anyone celebrating other than Christmas.

Cooking that turkey already? We do it Christmas Day.
My assigned duties today include cleaning the upstairs bathroom top to
bottom.


Turkey, stuffing and all the fixings today. Tomorrow we go to 8 a.m. mass,
then open gifts while sipping on our favorite adult beverage, then pork,
sauerkraut and dumplings for dinner. We will have the same on News Years
Day.

Aweful quiet in here................
 

"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
It ain't around here. Kids, Daughter in Law,, Son in Law, Girlfriend,
Boyfriend, six dogs four of which don't belong to me, two grandkids,
two cats....

AAARRRRGGHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!

Later,

Tom

Six dogs. You said six, as in 6. Six dogs.

If you can get them near a window, I could help with that. I'll even pay for
the window repair.

Aweful quiet in here................
 

"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 11:56:23 -0500, " JimH" wrote:


"Don White" wrote in message
...
JimH wrote:
..........all the guys must be out finally getting that Christmas gift
for their wives.

You guys give the rest of us a bad name!

Anyway, the turkey is stuffed and has been cooking for about an hour.
Guests arrive after 1.

Merry Christmas folks.

Merry christmas to you and everyone in the newsgroup.
Happy holidays to anyone celebrating other than Christmas.

Cooking that turkey already? We do it Christmas Day.
My assigned duties today include cleaning the upstairs bathroom top to
bottom.

Turkey, stuffing and all the fixings today. Tomorrow we go to 8 a.m.
mass,
then open gifts while sipping on our favorite adult beverage, then pork,
sauerkraut and dumplings for dinner. We will have the same on News Years
Day.

Wife, daughters and DIL decided on roast beef for tomorrow. Not just
any roast beef - A FREAKIN' STEAMSHIP ROUND OF PRIME RIB!!!

It's slow roasting as we speak.

You have any idea how much that damn thing cost me?

Tonight, the traditional Christmas Eve meal of American Slop Chewy,
salad, garlic bread and banana cream pie. Then all the Military types
get out the dress uniforms, the kids get cleaned up and it's off to
8:00 mass (kids mass). I'm sitting this one out because my RA is
flaring and I'm really not in the mood.

It's the stress of having all these freakin' people in my house. :)


RA??? What's that?

Aweful quiet in here................
 

"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 17:38:28 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:


"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
. ..
On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 11:56:23 -0500, " JimH" wrote:


"Don White" wrote in message
...
JimH wrote:
..........all the guys must be out finally getting that Christmas
gift
for their wives.

You guys give the rest of us a bad name!

Anyway, the turkey is stuffed and has been cooking for about an hour.
Guests arrive after 1.

Merry Christmas folks.

Merry christmas to you and everyone in the newsgroup.
Happy holidays to anyone celebrating other than Christmas.

Cooking that turkey already? We do it Christmas Day.
My assigned duties today include cleaning the upstairs bathroom top to
bottom.

Turkey, stuffing and all the fixings today. Tomorrow we go to 8 a.m.
mass,
then open gifts while sipping on our favorite adult beverage, then pork,
sauerkraut and dumplings for dinner. We will have the same on News
Years
Day.

Wife, daughters and DIL decided on roast beef for tomorrow. Not just
any roast beef - A FREAKIN' STEAMSHIP ROUND OF PRIME RIB!!!

It's slow roasting as we speak.

You have any idea how much that damn thing cost me?

Tonight, the traditional Christmas Eve meal of American Slop Chewy,
salad, garlic bread and banana cream pie. Then all the Military types
get out the dress uniforms, the kids get cleaned up and it's off to
8:00 mass (kids mass). I'm sitting this one out because my RA is
flaring and I'm really not in the mood.

It's the stress of having all these freakin' people in my house. :)

RA??? What's that?

Rheumatoid Arthritis.

Do you notice the stress-related increase pretty quickly?

Aweful quiet in here................
 

JimH wrote:
..........all the guys must be out finally getting that Christmas gift for
their wives.

You guys give the rest of us a bad name!

Anyway, the turkey is stuffed and has been cooking for about an hour.
Guests arrive after 1.

Merry Christmas folks.

Not I.

My shopping is done.

My personal shopping coach flew in from New York to steer me through
the proper series of department stores and point out just the styles,
colors, and sizes that would be perfect for my wife. (Personal shopping
coach is my adult daughter, who will be visiting until NYD). Personal
shopping coach managed to "hint" that she really personally liked a
bottle of a certain cologne, so it found its way to the cash register
along with one of the groups of baubles and bangles for the Mrs. You
think gas is expensive? I don't know what fraction of an ounce, or so,
you get for $80- but you know that stuff has to be selling somewhere on
the upper side of $1000 a gallon. It would be cheaper if my Personal
shopping coach/adult daughter simply daubed gasoline or diesel behind
her ears- but on second thought that would only attract a powerboater
(like her dad) or a NASCAR fan, so the cologne is a wise investment.

Still today:

Football game with son.
Drive out to little farm town tonight, visit my inlaws. Drive back.

Tomorrow:

up at 0600, go downtown and prepare breakfast for 200 homeless
1000, will go to neighborhood church
1100, go home to rejoin wife and kids. My parents will show up before
1200 to spend the afternoon and dine on holiday beast.

Some "holiday", I'm running my arse off. Much prefer more spontaneuos
and more natural
celebrations, but solstice is just past and light is reentering the
world on as many levels as one cares to consider it (even if the
Christians have the date screwed up- big grin and a friendly wink).

Interesting to note that in the earliest years, the Christian New Years
was at the spring solsitice, in the month we now call March.

http://www.bibletime.com/jesus/birth/


Merry Christmas, Happy Holdiays, etc etc etc to everybody in the NG.

Aweful quiet in here................
 

"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 17:47:40 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:


"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
. ..
On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 17:38:28 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:


"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
m...
On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 11:56:23 -0500, " JimH" wrote:


"Don White" wrote in message
...
JimH wrote:
..........all the guys must be out finally getting that Christmas
gift
for their wives.

You guys give the rest of us a bad name!

Anyway, the turkey is stuffed and has been cooking for about an
hour.
Guests arrive after 1.

Merry Christmas folks.

Merry christmas to you and everyone in the newsgroup.
Happy holidays to anyone celebrating other than Christmas.

Cooking that turkey already? We do it Christmas Day.
My assigned duties today include cleaning the upstairs bathroom top
to
bottom.

Turkey, stuffing and all the fixings today. Tomorrow we go to 8 a.m.
mass,
then open gifts while sipping on our favorite adult beverage, then
pork,
sauerkraut and dumplings for dinner. We will have the same on News
Years
Day.

Wife, daughters and DIL decided on roast beef for tomorrow. Not just
any roast beef - A FREAKIN' STEAMSHIP ROUND OF PRIME RIB!!!

It's slow roasting as we speak.

You have any idea how much that damn thing cost me?

Tonight, the traditional Christmas Eve meal of American Slop Chewy,
salad, garlic bread and banana cream pie. Then all the Military types
get out the dress uniforms, the kids get cleaned up and it's off to
8:00 mass (kids mass). I'm sitting this one out because my RA is
flaring and I'm really not in the mood.

It's the stress of having all these freakin' people in my house. :)

RA??? What's that?

Rheumatoid Arthritis.

Do you notice the stress-related increase pretty quickly?

Instantly.

Fishing must be spectacular as a medication, then.

Aweful quiet in here................
 

"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 17:32:14 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:


"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
. ..
It ain't around here. Kids, Daughter in Law,, Son in Law, Girlfriend,
Boyfriend, six dogs four of which don't belong to me, two grandkids,
two cats....

AAARRRRGGHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!

Six dogs. You said six, as in 6. Six dogs.

Six as in two Border Collies, two Australian Blue Heelers, one English
Bulldog, one German Shepard. At the moment, they are playing keep
away with each other in the play pen in the back yard.

Shortly, they will be brought in and the kids will help me give them
all baths, wash/dry and then to their crates for a couple of hours
while the dinner table is set up. One dinner is finished, they are
let out to join in the celebrations.

It's kind of charming actually. They all get together and take over a
corner of the living room and just sit watching the activities.

I trained each and every one of them and they are all excellent dogs.

Keep your dog opinions to yourself.

Even the border collies behave? How on earth did you accomplish that? They
always seem to have a natural internal source of methamphetamines.

Aweful quiet in here................
 

Tom,

Have you tried Enbril and Arava, both great disease modifying drugs for RA?

http://www.enbrel.com/index.jsp?f=7
http://www.arava.com/patient/home.do

They are normally prescribed together to not only reduce the symptoms, but
slow down the progression of the disease.



"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 17:38:28 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:


"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
. ..
On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 11:56:23 -0500, " JimH" wrote:


"Don White" wrote in message
...
JimH wrote:
..........all the guys must be out finally getting that Christmas
gift
for their wives.

You guys give the rest of us a bad name!

Anyway, the turkey is stuffed and has been cooking for about an hour.
Guests arrive after 1.

Merry Christmas folks.

Merry christmas to you and everyone in the newsgroup.
Happy holidays to anyone celebrating other than Christmas.

Cooking that turkey already? We do it Christmas Day.
My assigned duties today include cleaning the upstairs bathroom top to
bottom.

Turkey, stuffing and all the fixings today. Tomorrow we go to 8 a.m.
mass,
then open gifts while sipping on our favorite adult beverage, then pork,
sauerkraut and dumplings for dinner. We will have the same on News
Years
Day.

Wife, daughters and DIL decided on roast beef for tomorrow. Not just
any roast beef - A FREAKIN' STEAMSHIP ROUND OF PRIME RIB!!!

It's slow roasting as we speak.

You have any idea how much that damn thing cost me?

Tonight, the traditional Christmas Eve meal of American Slop Chewy,
salad, garlic bread and banana cream pie. Then all the Military types
get out the dress uniforms, the kids get cleaned up and it's off to
8:00 mass (kids mass). I'm sitting this one out because my RA is
flaring and I'm really not in the mood.

It's the stress of having all these freakin' people in my house. :)

RA??? What's that?

Rheumatoid Arthritis.

Aweful quiet in here................
 

Doug,
Doctors say all chronic illnesses are aggravated by stress.


"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...

"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 17:38:28 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:


"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 11:56:23 -0500, " JimH" wrote:


"Don White" wrote in message
...
JimH wrote:
..........all the guys must be out finally getting that Christmas
gift
for their wives.

You guys give the rest of us a bad name!

Anyway, the turkey is stuffed and has been cooking for about an
hour.
Guests arrive after 1.

Merry Christmas folks.

Merry christmas to you and everyone in the newsgroup.
Happy holidays to anyone celebrating other than Christmas.

Cooking that turkey already? We do it Christmas Day.
My assigned duties today include cleaning the upstairs bathroom top
to
bottom.

Turkey, stuffing and all the fixings today. Tomorrow we go to 8 a.m.
mass,
then open gifts while sipping on our favorite adult beverage, then
pork,
sauerkraut and dumplings for dinner. We will have the same on News
Years
Day.

Wife, daughters and DIL decided on roast beef for tomorrow. Not just
any roast beef - A FREAKIN' STEAMSHIP ROUND OF PRIME RIB!!!

It's slow roasting as we speak.

You have any idea how much that damn thing cost me?

Tonight, the traditional Christmas Eve meal of American Slop Chewy,
salad, garlic bread and banana cream pie. Then all the Military types
get out the dress uniforms, the kids get cleaned up and it's off to
8:00 mass (kids mass). I'm sitting this one out because my RA is
flaring and I'm really not in the mood.

It's the stress of having all these freakin' people in my house. :)

RA??? What's that?

Rheumatoid Arthritis.

Do you notice the stress-related increase pretty quickly?

Aweful quiet in here................
 

Doug,
Border Collies do have high energy, but their natural instinct is to try to
figure out what their master wants. They are considered the smartest and
most well behaved dog you can adopted. The only negative is they do want to
"work", and if you live in an urban area they can get bored.


"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...

"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 17:32:14 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:


"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
It ain't around here. Kids, Daughter in Law,, Son in Law, Girlfriend,
Boyfriend, six dogs four of which don't belong to me, two grandkids,
two cats....

AAARRRRGGHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!

Six dogs. You said six, as in 6. Six dogs.

Six as in two Border Collies, two Australian Blue Heelers, one English
Bulldog, one German Shepard. At the moment, they are playing keep
away with each other in the play pen in the back yard.

Shortly, they will be brought in and the kids will help me give them
all baths, wash/dry and then to their crates for a couple of hours
while the dinner table is set up. One dinner is finished, they are
let out to join in the celebrations.

It's kind of charming actually. They all get together and take over a
corner of the living room and just sit watching the activities.

I trained each and every one of them and they are all excellent dogs.

Keep your dog opinions to yourself.

Even the border collies behave? How on earth did you accomplish that? They
always seem to have a natural internal source of methamphetamines.

Aweful quiet in here................
 

"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 11:56:23 -0500, " JimH" wrote:


"Don White" wrote in message
...
JimH wrote:
..........all the guys must be out finally getting that Christmas gift
for their wives.

You guys give the rest of us a bad name!

Anyway, the turkey is stuffed and has been cooking for about an hour.
Guests arrive after 1.

Merry Christmas folks.

Merry christmas to you and everyone in the newsgroup.
Happy holidays to anyone celebrating other than Christmas.

Cooking that turkey already? We do it Christmas Day.
My assigned duties today include cleaning the upstairs bathroom top to
bottom.

Turkey, stuffing and all the fixings today. Tomorrow we go to 8 a.m.
mass,
then open gifts while sipping on our favorite adult beverage, then pork,
sauerkraut and dumplings for dinner. We will have the same on News Years
Day.

Wife, daughters and DIL decided on roast beef for tomorrow. Not just
any roast beef - A FREAKIN' STEAMSHIP ROUND OF PRIME RIB!!!

It's slow roasting as we speak.

You have any idea how much that damn thing cost me?

Tonight, the traditional Christmas Eve meal of American Slop Chewy,
salad, garlic bread and banana cream pie. Then all the Military types
get out the dress uniforms, the kids get cleaned up and it's off to
8:00 mass (kids mass). I'm sitting this one out because my RA is
flaring and I'm really not in the mood.

It's the stress of having all these freakin' people in my house. :)


I go to Safeway since they have Prime Rib on sale at $5 / pound for club
members and ask for a roast for 11 people. He cuts and wraps me a 10# prime
rib. He must think they are gluttons. Will be nice left over's. And off
to deliver goodie trays later, and pick up the Tamales for dinner. Youngest
is off to look at the set up for a Bat'h Mitzvah ( or however the females is
spelt). For her August wedding reception. Oldest is off to an engagement
party. Just the parents and the kids dog.

Aweful quiet in here................
 

"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 18:23:22 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:


"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
. ..
On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 17:32:14 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:


"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
m...
It ain't around here. Kids, Daughter in Law,, Son in Law, Girlfriend,
Boyfriend, six dogs four of which don't belong to me, two grandkids,
two cats....

AAARRRRGGHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!

Six dogs. You said six, as in 6. Six dogs.

Six as in two Border Collies, two Australian Blue Heelers, one English
Bulldog, one German Shepard. At the moment, they are playing keep
away with each other in the play pen in the back yard.

Shortly, they will be brought in and the kids will help me give them
all baths, wash/dry and then to their crates for a couple of hours
while the dinner table is set up. One dinner is finished, they are
let out to join in the celebrations.

It's kind of charming actually. They all get together and take over a
corner of the living room and just sit watching the activities.

I trained each and every one of them and they are all excellent dogs.

Keep your dog opinions to yourself.

Even the border collies behave? How on earth did you accomplish that? They
always seem to have a natural internal source of methamphetamines.

Training, training and more training. Both of them go through an hour
every other day, we run through all the obedience commands, then we
train a on a skill like tracking or herding (the farmer in back of me
lends his heifers for that) and then it's play time. Play can be any
number of "events" - mostly high energy events like chasing balls or
playing soccer.

They are great dogs.

The kid's dog is here and is Lab, Border Collie mix. Still not completely
under control, but is only 6 months old. Tries to be a runner. Wants to
play with the cat. Cat is staying under the bed.

quiet... dogs
 

Bill McKee wrote:
The kid's dog is here and is Lab, Border Collie mix. Still not completely
under control, but is only 6 months old.

That's the best time to work with them. Actually no, the
best time to begin a dog's training is much younger.

Time spent with a very young puppy is the most bang for the
buck in terms of shaping the dog's behavior later in life.
It takes some patience, consistency, and willingness to work
with a puppy's instincts & attitudes... and for me it has
always been great fun to have a puppy running around.

Collies and most herding dogs need a lot of exercise.
They're also too noisy for me. I've had more retrievers than
any other breed, IMHO they are perfect boating

http://community.webshots.com/photo/...83126526ongQsz

& household dogs. Our current dog is an unknown... I suspect
at least 1/4 pit bull, but people have guessed everything
from Chesapeake Bay Retriever to Rhodesian Ridgeback to hyena.

http://community.webshots.com/photo/...19409682lFZFTd
http://community.webshots.com/photo/...89675958BCXOSw

Sounds like you all are having a great family holiday.

Merry Christmas!

Doug King

Aweful quiet in here................
 

Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:
I've just been informed that we are adding two Sailors and two Marines
from the Navy Base for tomorrow's dinner. Wife has already left for a
quick foray into Target/Walmart/Sears to pick up some small presents.

~~ sigh ~~

If never rains, it pours. :)

And that's the way it should be. You will have a great
occasion to share with those servicemen. I stand & salute
you all, even though you can't see it.

DSK

Aweful quiet in here................
 

" JimH" wrote ...

..........all the guys must be out finally getting that Christmas gift for
their wives.

You guys give the rest of us a bad name!

Anyway, the turkey is stuffed and has been cooking for about an hour. Guests
arrive after 1.

Merry Christmas folks.

I hope my wife likes her new fishing reel.

-rick-

quiet... dogs
 

The kid's dog is here and is Lab, Border Collie mix. Still not completely
under control, but is only 6 months old.

That's the best time to work with them. Actually no, the
best time to begin a dog's training is much younger.


Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:
Right from the git go in fact.

Yep. Our last dog learned "sit" and "heel" at about 14
weeks... within two weeks of bringing him home.

The important thing with a young puppy is to teach them to
pay attention to you, and imprint on them that they will be
rewarded for good behavior... good as defined by you, of course.


.... The difference with BCs is that their
attention span increases exponentially as you work with them as
puppies - if you keep them busy and active they can be as advanced in
training at six months as any other dog is at a year.

I'd say that's true with all working breeds, in fact I
suspect as a general prinicple, it's true of all dogs...
maybe all mammals...


Ours are strictly working dog stock and in general, have been much
smarter than the average BC.


That ain't sayin' much. I've known a few border collies &
small shepherd breeds that were often outsmarted by a plate
of meat loaf.



I've owned one retriever, but I wasn't overly impressed - that was
probably one dog that I've owned that I wasn't overly enthusiastic
about. Good dog, just not my style.

What, didn't he bark at nothing often enough?

.... I ended up giving her to a
friend who hunts ducks and she was very happy with him.


Good. Not enough happy homes for dogs in this country, these
days.


I've trained a lot of dogs in my time, but standard, non-registered
stock dogs, BCs, Heelers, etc., are the best in my opinion. They can
do pretty much anything.

Hmmm... it's rare to have a dog that can both point & fetch,
but how about one that also retrieves a wallet dropped out
of the boat? Chesapeakes have a bad reputation with people
who can't raise them properly, but IMHO they're the best of
the best.

Here is a story you might enjoy, and illustrates part of why
I think so much of retrievers in general and Chessies in
particular.

http://www.amchessieclub.org/a-reddog.html


Another thing: swimming is very potent exercise... a tired
dog is a well-behaved dog (and a dog that gets regular
exercise is a healthy dog). Playing fetch in the water for
1/2 an hour is the equivalent of at least two hours of
running around in circles on dry land.

Most people don't spend enough time with their dogs, I'm
glad to hear about you all including yours in the family.

Merry Christmas!

Doug King

Aweful quiet in here................
 

On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 09:58:53 -0500, " JimH" wrote:

..........all the guys must be out finally getting that Christmas gift for
their wives.

You guys give the rest of us a bad name!

Anyway, the turkey is stuffed and has been cooking for about an hour.
Guests arrive after 1.

Merry Christmas folks.


We just got back from visiting the kids in Richmond. We took the presents down there
this year to save her from the packing and driving up here. She's the one who had the
breast removal two weeks ago, and was back in yesterday for some further surgery. She
is in no shape to bring the family up here.

We had a most enjoyable time. The other daughter and family were there also, so we
had five grandchildren running around. Well, one was just crawling. Grandkids must
have been intelligently designed to give us old folks a lot of pleasure!

Tomorrow the local daughter and family come over to open gifts and have dinner. Prime
rib and big shrimp. Can't wait.
--
John H

**** May your Christmas be Spectacular!****
*****...and your New Year even Better!*****

Aweful quiet in here................
 

On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 11:56:23 -0500, " JimH" wrote:


"Don White" wrote in message
...
JimH wrote:
..........all the guys must be out finally getting that Christmas gift
for their wives.

You guys give the rest of us a bad name!

Anyway, the turkey is stuffed and has been cooking for about an hour.
Guests arrive after 1.

Merry Christmas folks.

Merry christmas to you and everyone in the newsgroup.
Happy holidays to anyone celebrating other than Christmas.

Cooking that turkey already? We do it Christmas Day.
My assigned duties today include cleaning the upstairs bathroom top to
bottom.


Turkey, stuffing and all the fixings today. Tomorrow we go to 8 a.m. mass,
then open gifts while sipping on our favorite adult beverage, then pork,
sauerkraut and dumplings for dinner. We will have the same on News Years
Day.


Pork and sauerkraut were my wife's tradition, black-eyed peas and ham hocks were
mine. We do both!

Merry Christmas to all!
--
John H

**** May your Christmas be Spectacular!****
*****...and your New Year even Better!*****

Aweful quiet in here................
 

On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 17:37:24 GMT, Shortwave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 11:56:23 -0500, " JimH" wrote:


"Don White" wrote in message
...
JimH wrote:
..........all the guys must be out finally getting that Christmas gift
for their wives.

You guys give the rest of us a bad name!

Anyway, the turkey is stuffed and has been cooking for about an hour.
Guests arrive after 1.

Merry Christmas folks.

Merry christmas to you and everyone in the newsgroup.
Happy holidays to anyone celebrating other than Christmas.

Cooking that turkey already? We do it Christmas Day.
My assigned duties today include cleaning the upstairs bathroom top to
bottom.

Turkey, stuffing and all the fixings today. Tomorrow we go to 8 a.m. mass,
then open gifts while sipping on our favorite adult beverage, then pork,
sauerkraut and dumplings for dinner. We will have the same on News Years
Day.

Wife, daughters and DIL decided on roast beef for tomorrow. Not just
any roast beef - A FREAKIN' STEAMSHIP ROUND OF PRIME RIB!!!

It's slow roasting as we speak.

You have any idea how much that damn thing cost me?

Tonight, the traditional Christmas Eve meal of American Slop Chewy,
salad, garlic bread and banana cream pie. Then all the Military types
get out the dress uniforms, the kids get cleaned up and it's off to
8:00 mass (kids mass). I'm sitting this one out because my RA is
flaring and I'm really not in the mood.

It's the stress of having all these freakin' people in my house. :)

Which did you get, a steamship round or a prime rib? In my book they're two different
things. This year we got a five-rib roast. Set me back about $40 bucks, but it's
worth it. I've never 'slow roasted' a prime rib, always just the opposite. Hit it
with 450 degrees for about 45 minutes, then down to 350 until it's medium (at most
another hour and a half).
--
John H

**** May your Christmas be Spectacular!****
*****...and your New Year even Better!*****

Aweful quiet in here................
 

On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 21:03:52 GMT, Shortwave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 20:52:22 GMT, "Bill McKee"
wrote:


"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
. ..
On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 11:56:23 -0500, " JimH" wrote:


"Don White" wrote in message
...
JimH wrote:
..........all the guys must be out finally getting that Christmas gift
for their wives.

You guys give the rest of us a bad name!

Anyway, the turkey is stuffed and has been cooking for about an hour.
Guests arrive after 1.

Merry Christmas folks.

Merry christmas to you and everyone in the newsgroup.
Happy holidays to anyone celebrating other than Christmas.

Cooking that turkey already? We do it Christmas Day.
My assigned duties today include cleaning the upstairs bathroom top to
bottom.

Turkey, stuffing and all the fixings today. Tomorrow we go to 8 a.m.
mass,
then open gifts while sipping on our favorite adult beverage, then pork,
sauerkraut and dumplings for dinner. We will have the same on News Years
Day.

Wife, daughters and DIL decided on roast beef for tomorrow. Not just
any roast beef - A FREAKIN' STEAMSHIP ROUND OF PRIME RIB!!!

It's slow roasting as we speak.

You have any idea how much that damn thing cost me?

Tonight, the traditional Christmas Eve meal of American Slop Chewy,
salad, garlic bread and banana cream pie. Then all the Military types
get out the dress uniforms, the kids get cleaned up and it's off to
8:00 mass (kids mass). I'm sitting this one out because my RA is
flaring and I'm really not in the mood.

It's the stress of having all these freakin' people in my house. :)


I go to Safeway since they have Prime Rib on sale at $5 / pound for club
members and ask for a roast for 11 people. He cuts and wraps me a 10# prime
rib. He must think they are gluttons. Will be nice left over's. And off
to deliver goodie trays later, and pick up the Tamales for dinner. Youngest
is off to look at the set up for a Bat'h Mitzvah ( or however the females is
spelt). For her August wedding reception. Oldest is off to an engagement
party. Just the parents and the kids dog.

I've just been informed that we are adding two Sailors and two Marines
from the Navy Base for tomorrow's dinner. Wife has already left for a
quick foray into Target/Walmart/Sears to pick up some small presents.

~~ sigh ~~

If never rains, it pours. :)

When I was stationed at Ft. Sill, OK, I had guard duty around a post exchange on
Christmas Eve. The next day a few of us were invited to a family's house for
Christmas dinner. That was in 1965, and it is something I will never forget. You are
doing a good thing, and those Sailors and Marines will always remember it.

The old couple that had us over have long since passed away, so I'll say "Thanks" to
you instead.
--
John H

**** May your Christmas be Spectacular!****
*****...and your New Year even Better!*****

Aweful quiet in here................
 

On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 21:32:29 GMT, Shortwave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 16:20:50 -0500, DSK wrote:

Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:
I've just been informed that we are adding two Sailors and two Marines
from the Navy Base for tomorrow's dinner. Wife has already left for a
quick foray into Target/Walmart/Sears to pick up some small presents.

~~ sigh ~~

If never rains, it pours. :)

And that's the way it should be. You will have a great
occasion to share with those servicemen. I stand & salute
you all, even though you can't see it.

Ah I bitch and moan, but I knew it was going to happen. My oldest boy
calls one or two of his classmates to see if we can host anybody who
is away from home and we usually end up with two or three.

No big deal even if I try to make it out to be. :)

It's a big deal to them.
--
John H

**** May your Christmas be Spectacular!****
*****...and your New Year even Better!*****

Aweful quiet in here................
 

On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 17:32:14 GMT, "Doug Kanter" wrote:


"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
.. .
It ain't around here. Kids, Daughter in Law,, Son in Law, Girlfriend,
Boyfriend, six dogs four of which don't belong to me, two grandkids,
two cats....

AAARRRRGGHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!

Later,

Tom

Six dogs. You said six, as in 6. Six dogs.

If you can get them near a window, I could help with that. I'll even pay for
the window repair.


Doug, you're hopeless. If *you* had a couple mean-assed dogs, you wouldn't have to
put up the concertina wire to keep that fat guy from coming down your chimney!
--
John H

**** May your Christmas be Spectacular!****
*****...and your New Year even Better!*****

Aweful quiet in here................
 

On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 13:54:46 -0500, "Reggie Smithers"
wrote:

Doug,
Border Collies do have high energy, but their natural instinct is to try to
figure out what their master wants. They are considered the smartest and
most well behaved dog you can adopted. The only negative is they do want to
"work", and if you live in an urban area they can get bored.


"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...

"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 17:32:14 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:


"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
m...
It ain't around here. Kids, Daughter in Law,, Son in Law, Girlfriend,
Boyfriend, six dogs four of which don't belong to me, two grandkids,
two cats....

AAARRRRGGHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!

Six dogs. You said six, as in 6. Six dogs.

Six as in two Border Collies, two Australian Blue Heelers, one English
Bulldog, one German Shepard. At the moment, they are playing keep
away with each other in the play pen in the back yard.

Shortly, they will be brought in and the kids will help me give them
all baths, wash/dry and then to their crates for a couple of hours
while the dinner table is set up. One dinner is finished, they are
let out to join in the celebrations.

It's kind of charming actually. They all get together and take over a
corner of the living room and just sit watching the activities.

I trained each and every one of them and they are all excellent dogs.

Keep your dog opinions to yourself.

Even the border collies behave? How on earth did you accomplish that? They
always seem to have a natural internal source of methamphetamines.



Couldn't you train them to chase cars?
--
John H

**** May your Christmas be Spectacular!****
*****...and your New Year even Better!*****

Aweful quiet in here................
 

"JohnH" wrote in message

... Hit it
with 450 degrees for about 45 minutes, then down to 350 until it's medium

Cook a prime rib to medium? Say it ain't so!

Aweful quiet in here................
 

On 24 Dec 2005 09:58:29 -0800, wrote:

Merry Christmas, Happy Holdiays, etc etc etc to everybody in the NG.

Same to you Chuck. I salute your energy and generosity.

Aweful quiet in here................
 

On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 18:33:23 -0500, "John Gaquin" wrote:


"JohnH" wrote in message

... Hit it
with 450 degrees for about 45 minutes, then down to 350 until it's medium

Cook a prime rib to medium? Say it ain't so!


Well, my daughter and the wife are the deciding factors. Damn women. But, what are
you going to do?
--
John H

**** May your Christmas be Spectacular!****
*****...and your New Year even Better!*****

quiet... dogs
 

"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 16:17:31 -0500, DSK wrote:

Bill McKee wrote:
The kid's dog is here and is Lab, Border Collie mix. Still not
completely
under control, but is only 6 months old.

That's the best time to work with them. Actually no, the
best time to begin a dog's training is much younger.

Right from the git go in fact. The difference with BCs is that their
attention span increases exponentially as you work with them as
puppies - if you keep them busy and active they can be as advanced in
training at six months as any other dog is at a year.

Ours are strictly working dog stock and in general, have been much
smarter than the average BC.

Time spent with a very young puppy is the most bang for the
buck in terms of shaping the dog's behavior later in life.
It takes some patience, consistency, and willingness to work
with a puppy's instincts & attitudes... and for me it has
always been great fun to have a puppy running around.

Collies and most herding dogs need a lot of exercise.
They're also too noisy for me. I've had more retrievers than
any other breed, IMHO they are perfect boating

I've owned one retriever, but I wasn't overly impressed - that was
probably one dog that I've owned that I wasn't overly enthusiastic
about. Good dog, just not my style. I ended up giving her to a
friend who hunts ducks and she was very happy with him.

I've trained a lot of dogs in my time, but standard, non-registered
stock dogs, BCs, Heelers, etc., are the best in my opinion. They can
do pretty much anything.

This was a resue dog, and was about 6 months when the got her. Actually
Cloe is doing pretty well.

Aweful quiet in here................
 

"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 20:52:22 GMT, "Bill McKee"
wrote:


"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
. ..
On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 11:56:23 -0500, " JimH" wrote:


"Don White" wrote in message
...
JimH wrote:
..........all the guys must be out finally getting that Christmas
gift
for their wives.

You guys give the rest of us a bad name!

Anyway, the turkey is stuffed and has been cooking for about an hour.
Guests arrive after 1.

Merry Christmas folks.

Merry christmas to you and everyone in the newsgroup.
Happy holidays to anyone celebrating other than Christmas.

Cooking that turkey already? We do it Christmas Day.
My assigned duties today include cleaning the upstairs bathroom top to
bottom.

Turkey, stuffing and all the fixings today. Tomorrow we go to 8 a.m.
mass,
then open gifts while sipping on our favorite adult beverage, then pork,
sauerkraut and dumplings for dinner. We will have the same on News
Years
Day.

Wife, daughters and DIL decided on roast beef for tomorrow. Not just
any roast beef - A FREAKIN' STEAMSHIP ROUND OF PRIME RIB!!!

It's slow roasting as we speak.

You have any idea how much that damn thing cost me?

Tonight, the traditional Christmas Eve meal of American Slop Chewy,
salad, garlic bread and banana cream pie. Then all the Military types
get out the dress uniforms, the kids get cleaned up and it's off to
8:00 mass (kids mass). I'm sitting this one out because my RA is
flaring and I'm really not in the mood.

It's the stress of having all these freakin' people in my house. :)


I go to Safeway since they have Prime Rib on sale at $5 / pound for club
members and ask for a roast for 11 people. He cuts and wraps me a 10#
prime
rib. He must think they are gluttons. Will be nice left over's. And off
to deliver goodie trays later, and pick up the Tamales for dinner.
Youngest
is off to look at the set up for a Bat'h Mitzvah ( or however the females
is
spelt). For her August wedding reception. Oldest is off to an engagement
party. Just the parents and the kids dog.

I've just been informed that we are adding two Sailors and two Marines
from the Navy Base for tomorrow's dinner. Wife has already left for a
quick foray into Target/Walmart/Sears to pick up some small presents.

~~ sigh ~~

If never rains, it pours. :)

We always had Betty, my mom's older friend for years, but she has since
passed. We may have my daughters friends, He is Hindu, and she Christian.
We had them last year, but they may be going to another Hindu affair. I
come from a family, where we always had an open seat. Only way to get on
Mom's bad side was not to stay and eat.

Aweful quiet in here................
 

"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 17:59:34 -0500, JohnH wrote:

On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 17:37:24 GMT, Shortwave Sportfishing

wrote:

On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 11:56:23 -0500, " JimH" wrote:


"Don White" wrote in message
...
JimH wrote:
..........all the guys must be out finally getting that Christmas
gift
for their wives.

You guys give the rest of us a bad name!

Anyway, the turkey is stuffed and has been cooking for about an hour.
Guests arrive after 1.

Merry Christmas folks.

Merry christmas to you and everyone in the newsgroup.
Happy holidays to anyone celebrating other than Christmas.

Cooking that turkey already? We do it Christmas Day.
My assigned duties today include cleaning the upstairs bathroom top to
bottom.

Turkey, stuffing and all the fixings today. Tomorrow we go to 8 a.m.
mass,
then open gifts while sipping on our favorite adult beverage, then pork,
sauerkraut and dumplings for dinner. We will have the same on News
Years
Day.

Wife, daughters and DIL decided on roast beef for tomorrow. Not just
any roast beef - A FREAKIN' STEAMSHIP ROUND OF PRIME RIB!!!

It's slow roasting as we speak.

You have any idea how much that damn thing cost me?

Tonight, the traditional Christmas Eve meal of American Slop Chewy,
salad, garlic bread and banana cream pie. Then all the Military types
get out the dress uniforms, the kids get cleaned up and it's off to
8:00 mass (kids mass). I'm sitting this one out because my RA is
flaring and I'm really not in the mood.

It's the stress of having all these freakin' people in my house. :)

Which did you get, a steamship round or a prime rib? In my book they're
two different
things. This year we got a five-rib roast. Set me back about $40 bucks,
but it's
worth it. I've never 'slow roasted' a prime rib, always just the opposite.
Hit it
with 450 degrees for about 45 minutes, then down to 350 until it's medium
(at most
another hour and a half).

I have no idea - not my job. All I know is it's called a steamship
round of prime rib - and it's freakin' huge and cost me a ton of
money.

~~ mutter ~~

De Nada. Younger daughter has been shopping wedding reception places while
home. The reception will cost me almost what the budget for the first girls
wedding was 6 years ago. So the cost of Prime Rib, seems like a pittance
this year. Oh well, maybe Santa will bring me a winning lotto ticket.

Aweful quiet in here................
 

"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message

They would hate me - I don't like medium or rare meats - I like my
food cooked and hot - not shoe leather, but cooked through and hot in
the middle.

It's hard to get that across to some people, but of all the
restaurants I've been to, the only one to get it right the first time,
every time is Outback.

Outback gets it just right for me, too. I just tell them to carry the steak
past the grill on the way to the table!

Merry Christmas!

Aweful quiet in here................
 

On Sun, 25 Dec 2005 12:59:02 GMT, Shortwave Sportfishing
wrote:

It's hard to get that across to some people, but of all the
restaurants I've been to, the only one to get it right the first time,
every time is Outback.

Perfect every time.

===========================

And you can get a Bloomin Onion with it :-)

Very good but instant indigestion.

Aweful quiet in here................
 

On Sun, 25 Dec 2005 12:59:02 GMT, Shortwave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 23:40:10 -0500, JohnH wrote:

On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 18:33:23 -0500, "John Gaquin" wrote:


"JohnH" wrote in message

... Hit it
with 450 degrees for about 45 minutes, then down to 350 until it's medium

Cook a prime rib to medium? Say it ain't so!


Well, my daughter and the wife are the deciding factors. Damn women. But, what are
you going to do?

They would hate me - I don't like medium or rare meats - I like my
food cooked and hot - not shoe leather, but cooked through and hot in
the middle.

It's hard to get that across to some people, but of all the
restaurants I've been to, the only one to get it right the first time,
every time is Outback.

Perfect every time.

Well-done and prime rib don't belong in the same sentence.

For chuck roast, yeah!
--
John H

**** May your Christmas be Spectacular!****
*****...and your New Year even Better!*****

Aweful quiet in here................
 

On Sun, 25 Dec 2005 09:11:10 -0500, Wayne.B wrote:

On Sun, 25 Dec 2005 12:59:02 GMT, Shortwave Sportfishing
wrote:

It's hard to get that across to some people, but of all the
restaurants I've been to, the only one to get it right the first time,
every time is Outback.

Perfect every time.

===========================

And you can get a Bloomin Onion with it :-)

Very good but instant indigestion.

Their 20oz T-Bone is a joy to behold. Damn, I haven't been there in a long time.
Maybe tomorrow.

Merry Christmas all!
--
John H

**** May your Christmas be Spectacular!****
*****...and your New Year even Better!*****

Aweful quiet in here................
 

JohnH wrote:
Well-done and prime rib don't belong in the same sentence.


Now there's something we agree on.

DSK

Aweful quiet in here................
 

"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 23:40:10 -0500, JohnH wrote:

On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 18:33:23 -0500, "John Gaquin"
wrote:


"JohnH" wrote in message

... Hit it
with 450 degrees for about 45 minutes, then down to 350 until it's
medium

Cook a prime rib to medium? Say it ain't so!


Well, my daughter and the wife are the deciding factors. Damn women. But,
what are
you going to do?

They would hate me - I don't like medium or rare meats - I like my
food cooked and hot - not shoe leather, but cooked through and hot in
the middle.

It's hard to get that across to some people, but of all the
restaurants I've been to, the only one to get it right the first time,
every time is Outback.

Perfect every time.


Outback is great. I like mine medium rare, and as Wayne suggested, with a
bloomin' onion. Great food.

Aweful quiet in here................
 

On Sun, 25 Dec 2005 09:56:00 -0500, " JimH" wrote:


"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
.. .
On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 23:40:10 -0500, JohnH wrote:

On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 18:33:23 -0500, "John Gaquin"
wrote:


"JohnH" wrote in message

... Hit it
with 450 degrees for about 45 minutes, then down to 350 until it's
medium

Cook a prime rib to medium? Say it ain't so!


Well, my daughter and the wife are the deciding factors. Damn women. But,
what are
you going to do?

They would hate me - I don't like medium or rare meats - I like my
food cooked and hot - not shoe leather, but cooked through and hot in
the middle.

It's hard to get that across to some people, but of all the
restaurants I've been to, the only one to get it right the first time,
every time is Outback.

Perfect every time.


Outback is great. I like mine medium rare, and as Wayne suggested, with a
bloomin' onion. Great food.


The wife took me to Ruth's Chris Steak House for my birthday. Two steaks (nothing I'd
call spectacular) set her back about $135, with a veggie or two. Neither of us are
drinkers, so there wasn't any booze added to the bill. I would have much preferred
Outback, or my own for that matter.
--
John H

**** May your Christmas be Spectacular!****
*****...and your New Year even Better!*****