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"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 18:23:22 GMT, "Doug Kanter" wrote: "Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message . .. On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 17:32:14 GMT, "Doug Kanter" wrote: "Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message m... It ain't around here. Kids, Daughter in Law,, Son in Law, Girlfriend, Boyfriend, six dogs four of which don't belong to me, two grandkids, two cats.... AAARRRRGGHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!! Six dogs. You said six, as in 6. Six dogs. Six as in two Border Collies, two Australian Blue Heelers, one English Bulldog, one German Shepard. At the moment, they are playing keep away with each other in the play pen in the back yard. Shortly, they will be brought in and the kids will help me give them all baths, wash/dry and then to their crates for a couple of hours while the dinner table is set up. One dinner is finished, they are let out to join in the celebrations. It's kind of charming actually. They all get together and take over a corner of the living room and just sit watching the activities. I trained each and every one of them and they are all excellent dogs. Keep your dog opinions to yourself. Even the border collies behave? How on earth did you accomplish that? They always seem to have a natural internal source of methamphetamines. Training, training and more training. Both of them go through an hour every other day, we run through all the obedience commands, then we train a on a skill like tracking or herding (the farmer in back of me lends his heifers for that) and then it's play time. Play can be any number of "events" - mostly high energy events like chasing balls or playing soccer. They are great dogs. This is a serious question: What's the most effective, yet socially acceptable way to get SOMEONE ELSE'S dog to stop jumping on you, if the someone else is a person you'd like to speak to again in the future, even though they're sort of clueless dolts when it comes to their dog? |
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On Sun, 25 Dec 2005 16:32:01 GMT, "Doug Kanter" wrote:
"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message .. . On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 18:23:22 GMT, "Doug Kanter" wrote: "Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 17:32:14 GMT, "Doug Kanter" wrote: "Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message om... It ain't around here. Kids, Daughter in Law,, Son in Law, Girlfriend, Boyfriend, six dogs four of which don't belong to me, two grandkids, two cats.... AAARRRRGGHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!! Six dogs. You said six, as in 6. Six dogs. Six as in two Border Collies, two Australian Blue Heelers, one English Bulldog, one German Shepard. At the moment, they are playing keep away with each other in the play pen in the back yard. Shortly, they will be brought in and the kids will help me give them all baths, wash/dry and then to their crates for a couple of hours while the dinner table is set up. One dinner is finished, they are let out to join in the celebrations. It's kind of charming actually. They all get together and take over a corner of the living room and just sit watching the activities. I trained each and every one of them and they are all excellent dogs. Keep your dog opinions to yourself. Even the border collies behave? How on earth did you accomplish that? They always seem to have a natural internal source of methamphetamines. Training, training and more training. Both of them go through an hour every other day, we run through all the obedience commands, then we train a on a skill like tracking or herding (the farmer in back of me lends his heifers for that) and then it's play time. Play can be any number of "events" - mostly high energy events like chasing balls or playing soccer. They are great dogs. This is a serious question: What's the most effective, yet socially acceptable way to get SOMEONE ELSE'S dog to stop jumping on you, if the someone else is a person you'd like to speak to again in the future, even though they're sort of clueless dolts when it comes to their dog? Knuckles on the forehead or a kick in the nuts will usually work, along with a nice, loud, "NO!" -- John H **** May your Christmas be Spectacular!**** *****...and your New Year even Better!***** |
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Doug,
A gun to the forehead seems to work. Either that or a strong "Sit". If that doesn't work, as the dog starts to jump up bring your knee up so he bounces his chest into your knee. If those don't work, try a gun to the forehead. "Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... "Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 18:23:22 GMT, "Doug Kanter" wrote: "Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 17:32:14 GMT, "Doug Kanter" wrote: "Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message om... It ain't around here. Kids, Daughter in Law,, Son in Law, Girlfriend, Boyfriend, six dogs four of which don't belong to me, two grandkids, two cats.... AAARRRRGGHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!! Six dogs. You said six, as in 6. Six dogs. Six as in two Border Collies, two Australian Blue Heelers, one English Bulldog, one German Shepard. At the moment, they are playing keep away with each other in the play pen in the back yard. Shortly, they will be brought in and the kids will help me give them all baths, wash/dry and then to their crates for a couple of hours while the dinner table is set up. One dinner is finished, they are let out to join in the celebrations. It's kind of charming actually. They all get together and take over a corner of the living room and just sit watching the activities. I trained each and every one of them and they are all excellent dogs. Keep your dog opinions to yourself. Even the border collies behave? How on earth did you accomplish that? They always seem to have a natural internal source of methamphetamines. Training, training and more training. Both of them go through an hour every other day, we run through all the obedience commands, then we train a on a skill like tracking or herding (the farmer in back of me lends his heifers for that) and then it's play time. Play can be any number of "events" - mostly high energy events like chasing balls or playing soccer. They are great dogs. This is a serious question: What's the most effective, yet socially acceptable way to get SOMEONE ELSE'S dog to stop jumping on you, if the someone else is a person you'd like to speak to again in the future, even though they're sort of clueless dolts when it comes to their dog? |
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On Sun, 25 Dec 2005 16:54:45 GMT, Shortwave Sportfishing
wrote: On Sun, 25 Dec 2005 16:32:01 GMT, "Doug Kanter" wrote: "Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message . .. On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 18:23:22 GMT, "Doug Kanter" wrote: "Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message m... On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 17:32:14 GMT, "Doug Kanter" wrote: "Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message news:fq0rq1tliguhv5j4eg2901u1la3o7j0h2d@4ax. com... It ain't around here. Kids, Daughter in Law,, Son in Law, Girlfriend, Boyfriend, six dogs four of which don't belong to me, two grandkids, two cats.... AAARRRRGGHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!! Six dogs. You said six, as in 6. Six dogs. Six as in two Border Collies, two Australian Blue Heelers, one English Bulldog, one German Shepard. At the moment, they are playing keep away with each other in the play pen in the back yard. Shortly, they will be brought in and the kids will help me give them all baths, wash/dry and then to their crates for a couple of hours while the dinner table is set up. One dinner is finished, they are let out to join in the celebrations. It's kind of charming actually. They all get together and take over a corner of the living room and just sit watching the activities. I trained each and every one of them and they are all excellent dogs. Keep your dog opinions to yourself. Even the border collies behave? How on earth did you accomplish that? They always seem to have a natural internal source of methamphetamines. Training, training and more training. Both of them go through an hour every other day, we run through all the obedience commands, then we train a on a skill like tracking or herding (the farmer in back of me lends his heifers for that) and then it's play time. Play can be any number of "events" - mostly high energy events like chasing balls or playing soccer. They are great dogs. This is a serious question: What's the most effective, yet socially acceptable way to get SOMEONE ELSE'S dog to stop jumping on you, if the someone else is a person you'd like to speak to again in the future, even though they're sort of clueless dolts when it comes to their dog? Other than getting the other person to control their dog? Simplest and most effective is to grab their paws and not let go - untrained dogs hate that. Check out Wayne's pics on alt.binaries.pictures.sports.ocean. Nice! -- John H **** May your Christmas be Spectacular!**** *****...and your New Year even Better!***** |
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"JohnH" wrote in message ... This is a serious question: What's the most effective, yet socially acceptable way to get SOMEONE ELSE'S dog to stop jumping on you, if the someone else is a person you'd like to speak to again in the future, even though they're sort of clueless dolts when it comes to their dog? Knuckles on the forehead or a kick in the nuts will usually work, along with a nice, loud, "NO!" Forehead, as in an old-fashioned noogie? :-) |
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Tom's gonna yell at your for the gun suggestion. :-) Either that, or you're
just catering to my dog mania, and you & Tom are both aware of this, but I'm not. "Reggie Smithers" wrote in message . .. Doug, A gun to the forehead seems to work. Either that or a strong "Sit". If that doesn't work, as the dog starts to jump up bring your knee up so he bounces his chest into your knee. If those don't work, try a gun to the forehead. "Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... "Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 18:23:22 GMT, "Doug Kanter" wrote: "Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message m... On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 17:32:14 GMT, "Doug Kanter" wrote: "Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message news:fq0rq1tliguhv5j4eg2901u1la3o7j0h2d@4ax. com... It ain't around here. Kids, Daughter in Law,, Son in Law, Girlfriend, Boyfriend, six dogs four of which don't belong to me, two grandkids, two cats.... AAARRRRGGHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!! Six dogs. You said six, as in 6. Six dogs. Six as in two Border Collies, two Australian Blue Heelers, one English Bulldog, one German Shepard. At the moment, they are playing keep away with each other in the play pen in the back yard. Shortly, they will be brought in and the kids will help me give them all baths, wash/dry and then to their crates for a couple of hours while the dinner table is set up. One dinner is finished, they are let out to join in the celebrations. It's kind of charming actually. They all get together and take over a corner of the living room and just sit watching the activities. I trained each and every one of them and they are all excellent dogs. Keep your dog opinions to yourself. Even the border collies behave? How on earth did you accomplish that? They always seem to have a natural internal source of methamphetamines. Training, training and more training. Both of them go through an hour every other day, we run through all the obedience commands, then we train a on a skill like tracking or herding (the farmer in back of me lends his heifers for that) and then it's play time. Play can be any number of "events" - mostly high energy events like chasing balls or playing soccer. They are great dogs. This is a serious question: What's the most effective, yet socially acceptable way to get SOMEONE ELSE'S dog to stop jumping on you, if the someone else is a person you'd like to speak to again in the future, even though they're sort of clueless dolts when it comes to their dog? |
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"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
... This is a serious question: What's the most effective, yet socially acceptable way to get SOMEONE ELSE'S dog to stop jumping on you, if the someone else is a person you'd like to speak to again in the future, even though they're sort of clueless dolts when it comes to their dog? Other than getting the other person to control their dog? Simplest and most effective is to grab their paws and not let go - untrained dogs hate that. I'll try the paws thing. Maybe if I give it a cigarette, too, it'll stay occupied while I get my coat off. |
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"JohnH" wrote in message ... On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 17:32:14 GMT, "Doug Kanter" wrote: "Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message . .. It ain't around here. Kids, Daughter in Law,, Son in Law, Girlfriend, Boyfriend, six dogs four of which don't belong to me, two grandkids, two cats.... AAARRRRGGHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!! Later, Tom Six dogs. You said six, as in 6. Six dogs. If you can get them near a window, I could help with that. I'll even pay for the window repair. Doug, you're hopeless. If *you* had a couple mean-assed dogs, you wouldn't have to put up the concertina wire to keep that fat guy from coming down your chimney! -- John H Yeah, but then I'd have dogs. There's absolutely, positively no place on my 1/4 acre I'd want used as a dog outhouse. Not ever, not under any conditions, period. And, there's no way I'd walk a dog in some of the weather we're going to have here over the next 4 months. I have a cat that's very good at tripping people who don't know her antics around feet. If there's ever an intruder here, I'm sure she'd create at least 30 seconds of mayhem, which would give me time to load up. :-) |
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"Harry Krause" wrote in message ... Doug Kanter wrote: Tom's gonna yell at your for the gun suggestion. :-) Either that, or you're just catering to my dog mania, and you & Tom are both aware of this, but I'm not. Get yourself a taser. You're crazier than I am. That's not good. I'm gonna have to actually work to take back the crown. |
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Tom,
Is it possible you want the dog to bite Doug "Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... On Sun, 25 Dec 2005 16:32:01 GMT, "Doug Kanter" wrote: "Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message . .. On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 18:23:22 GMT, "Doug Kanter" wrote: "Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message m... On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 17:32:14 GMT, "Doug Kanter" wrote: "Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message news:fq0rq1tliguhv5j4eg2901u1la3o7j0h2d@4ax. com... It ain't around here. Kids, Daughter in Law,, Son in Law, Girlfriend, Boyfriend, six dogs four of which don't belong to me, two grandkids, two cats.... AAARRRRGGHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!! Six dogs. You said six, as in 6. Six dogs. Six as in two Border Collies, two Australian Blue Heelers, one English Bulldog, one German Shepard. At the moment, they are playing keep away with each other in the play pen in the back yard. Shortly, they will be brought in and the kids will help me give them all baths, wash/dry and then to their crates for a couple of hours while the dinner table is set up. One dinner is finished, they are let out to join in the celebrations. It's kind of charming actually. They all get together and take over a corner of the living room and just sit watching the activities. I trained each and every one of them and they are all excellent dogs. Keep your dog opinions to yourself. Even the border collies behave? How on earth did you accomplish that? They always seem to have a natural internal source of methamphetamines. Training, training and more training. Both of them go through an hour every other day, we run through all the obedience commands, then we train a on a skill like tracking or herding (the farmer in back of me lends his heifers for that) and then it's play time. Play can be any number of "events" - mostly high energy events like chasing balls or playing soccer. They are great dogs. This is a serious question: What's the most effective, yet socially acceptable way to get SOMEONE ELSE'S dog to stop jumping on you, if the someone else is a person you'd like to speak to again in the future, even though they're sort of clueless dolts when it comes to their dog? Other than getting the other person to control their dog? Simplest and most effective is to grab their paws and not let go - untrained dogs hate that. |
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JohnH wrote:
On Sun, 25 Dec 2005 16:32:01 GMT, "Doug Kanter" wrote: "Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message . .. On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 18:23:22 GMT, "Doug Kanter" wrote: "Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message m... On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 17:32:14 GMT, "Doug Kanter" wrote: "Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message news:fq0rq1tliguhv5j4eg2901u1la3o7j0h2d@4ax. com... It ain't around here. Kids, Daughter in Law,, Son in Law, Girlfriend, Boyfriend, six dogs four of which don't belong to me, two grandkids, two cats.... AAARRRRGGHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!! Six dogs. You said six, as in 6. Six dogs. Six as in two Border Collies, two Australian Blue Heelers, one English Bulldog, one German Shepard. At the moment, they are playing keep away with each other in the play pen in the back yard. Shortly, they will be brought in and the kids will help me give them all baths, wash/dry and then to their crates for a couple of hours while the dinner table is set up. One dinner is finished, they are let out to join in the celebrations. It's kind of charming actually. They all get together and take over a corner of the living room and just sit watching the activities. I trained each and every one of them and they are all excellent dogs. Keep your dog opinions to yourself. Even the border collies behave? How on earth did you accomplish that? They always seem to have a natural internal source of methamphetamines. Training, training and more training. Both of them go through an hour every other day, we run through all the obedience commands, then we train a on a skill like tracking or herding (the farmer in back of me lends his heifers for that) and then it's play time. Play can be any number of "events" - mostly high energy events like chasing balls or playing soccer. They are great dogs. This is a serious question: What's the most effective, yet socially acceptable way to get SOMEONE ELSE'S dog to stop jumping on you, if the someone else is a person you'd like to speak to again in the future, even though they're sort of clueless dolts when it comes to their dog? Knuckles on the forehead or a kick in the nuts will usually work, along with a nice, loud, "NO!" -- John H **** May your Christmas be Spectacular!**** *****...and your New Year even Better!***** The dog or the owner John?? K |
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On Sun, 25 Dec 2005 16:32:01 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote: This is a serious question: What's the most effective, yet socially acceptable way to get SOMEONE ELSE'S dog to stop jumping on you, if the someone else is a person you'd like to speak to again in the future, even though they're sort of clueless dolts when it comes to their dog? Knee them in the chest every time they do it. Mark E. Williams |
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"Doug Kanter" wrote in message news:5Qzrf.340 This is a serious question: What's the most effective, yet socially acceptable way to get SOMEONE ELSE'S dog to stop jumping on you, Dogs don't understand English. At best, they have a tenuous, rudimentary grasp of a few English words, but they're really just unintelligible sounds that sometimes produce a desired result. You have to speak dog. Widen your eyes, stare directly into his eyes, bare your teeth way back, and growl deep in your throat, loud. If he's smaller than you and thinks you're highly ****ed, he'll back off. Works for me. |
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"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message Nice try, but that's a myth. Baring your teeth is a fight reflex in dogs and even small ones will react to it. Try it sometime with your own dog and see what happens. Well, I guess nobody told the dogs its a myth.. That tactic has worked for me on my own dogs (though rarely used), others' dogs, even on feral dogs in central asia and the mid-east the many times I've been there over the years. It isn't just the teeth - its the whole package, tone, and attitude. If it were just the teeth, every time you smile your dog would tear out your throat. You just have to be smart enough not to pull it on a dog that's almost as big as you -- the intimidation factor drops to near zero. |
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"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... On Mon, 26 Dec 2005 17:04:23 -0500, "John Gaquin" wrote: "Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message Nice try, but that's a myth. Baring your teeth is a fight reflex in dogs and even small ones will react to it. Try it sometime with your own dog and see what happens. Well, I guess nobody told the dogs its a myth.. That tactic has worked for me on my own dogs (though rarely used), others' dogs, even on feral dogs in central asia and the mid-east the many times I've been there over the years. It isn't just the teeth - its the whole package, tone, and attitude. If it were just the teeth, every time you smile your dog would tear out your throat. You just have to be smart enough not to pull it on a dog that's almost as big as you -- the intimidation factor drops to near zero. I bow to your superior knowledge of dog behavior. I'm so wrong. Now boys.........behave or no cookies and milk for you tonight! |
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"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... On Mon, 26 Dec 2005 17:04:23 -0500, "John Gaquin" wrote: "Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message Nice try, but that's a myth. Baring your teeth is a fight reflex in dogs and even small ones will react to it. Try it sometime with your own dog and see what happens. Well, I guess nobody told the dogs its a myth.. That tactic has worked for me on my own dogs (though rarely used), others' dogs, even on feral dogs in central asia and the mid-east the many times I've been there over the years. It isn't just the teeth - its the whole package, tone, and attitude. If it were just the teeth, every time you smile your dog would tear out your throat. You just have to be smart enough not to pull it on a dog that's almost as big as you -- the intimidation factor drops to near zero. I bow to your superior knowledge of dog behavior. I'm so wrong. I don't know much about them, but I have to agree with you, based on an enormous statistical dog sampling of....one. One of my historical neighbors had a "blend" (he didn't like "mutt") of two or eight big dogs. After three years of living in the adjacent yard, the dog still didn't consider us to be familiar. Any time we came out our back door, the dump thing would bark like Godzilla was about to walk through the yard. There were times when I really wanted some peace and quiet, and Gawkins' method worked nicely, in terms of getting the dog to shut the phuque up. ***HOWEVER***, it was clear that if this was a normal dog, with a brain, balls, and some size, without a fence, my method (towering over the fence and roaring at it) would've turned out badly for me. |
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" JimH" wrote in message . .. "Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... On Mon, 26 Dec 2005 17:04:23 -0500, "John Gaquin" wrote: "Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message Nice try, but that's a myth. Baring your teeth is a fight reflex in dogs and even small ones will react to it. Try it sometime with your own dog and see what happens. Well, I guess nobody told the dogs its a myth.. That tactic has worked for me on my own dogs (though rarely used), others' dogs, even on feral dogs in central asia and the mid-east the many times I've been there over the years. It isn't just the teeth - its the whole package, tone, and attitude. If it were just the teeth, every time you smile your dog would tear out your throat. You just have to be smart enough not to pull it on a dog that's almost as big as you -- the intimidation factor drops to near zero. I bow to your superior knowledge of dog behavior. I'm so wrong. Now boys.........behave or no cookies and milk for you tonight! Die. |
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"Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... " JimH" wrote in message . .. "Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... On Mon, 26 Dec 2005 17:04:23 -0500, "John Gaquin" wrote: "Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message Nice try, but that's a myth. Baring your teeth is a fight reflex in dogs and even small ones will react to it. Try it sometime with your own dog and see what happens. Well, I guess nobody told the dogs its a myth.. That tactic has worked for me on my own dogs (though rarely used), others' dogs, even on feral dogs in central asia and the mid-east the many times I've been there over the years. It isn't just the teeth - its the whole package, tone, and attitude. If it were just the teeth, every time you smile your dog would tear out your throat. You just have to be smart enough not to pull it on a dog that's almost as big as you -- the intimidation factor drops to near zero. I bow to your superior knowledge of dog behavior. I'm so wrong. Now boys.........behave or no cookies and milk for you tonight! Die. Eh? |
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" JimH" wrote in message ... "Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... " JimH" wrote in message . .. "Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... On Mon, 26 Dec 2005 17:04:23 -0500, "John Gaquin" wrote: "Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message Nice try, but that's a myth. Baring your teeth is a fight reflex in dogs and even small ones will react to it. Try it sometime with your own dog and see what happens. Well, I guess nobody told the dogs its a myth.. That tactic has worked for me on my own dogs (though rarely used), others' dogs, even on feral dogs in central asia and the mid-east the many times I've been there over the years. It isn't just the teeth - its the whole package, tone, and attitude. If it were just the teeth, every time you smile your dog would tear out your throat. You just have to be smart enough not to pull it on a dog that's almost as big as you -- the intimidation factor drops to near zero. I bow to your superior knowledge of dog behavior. I'm so wrong. Now boys.........behave or no cookies and milk for you tonight! Die. Eh? ROFL!!!!!!!!!! |
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"Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... " JimH" wrote in message ... "Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... " JimH" wrote in message . .. "Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... On Mon, 26 Dec 2005 17:04:23 -0500, "John Gaquin" wrote: "Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message Nice try, but that's a myth. Baring your teeth is a fight reflex in dogs and even small ones will react to it. Try it sometime with your own dog and see what happens. Well, I guess nobody told the dogs its a myth.. That tactic has worked for me on my own dogs (though rarely used), others' dogs, even on feral dogs in central asia and the mid-east the many times I've been there over the years. It isn't just the teeth - its the whole package, tone, and attitude. If it were just the teeth, every time you smile your dog would tear out your throat. You just have to be smart enough not to pull it on a dog that's almost as big as you -- the intimidation factor drops to near zero. I bow to your superior knowledge of dog behavior. I'm so wrong. Now boys.........behave or no cookies and milk for you tonight! Die. Eh? ROFL!!!!!!!!!! You can roll on the floor (whatever that means) all you want Doug, but I still don't understand your "die" comment. |
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" JimH" wrote in message . .. "Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... " JimH" wrote in message ... "Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... " JimH" wrote in message . .. "Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... On Mon, 26 Dec 2005 17:04:23 -0500, "John Gaquin" wrote: "Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message Nice try, but that's a myth. Baring your teeth is a fight reflex in dogs and even small ones will react to it. Try it sometime with your own dog and see what happens. Well, I guess nobody told the dogs its a myth.. That tactic has worked for me on my own dogs (though rarely used), others' dogs, even on feral dogs in central asia and the mid-east the many times I've been there over the years. It isn't just the teeth - its the whole package, tone, and attitude. If it were just the teeth, every time you smile your dog would tear out your throat. You just have to be smart enough not to pull it on a dog that's almost as big as you -- the intimidation factor drops to near zero. I bow to your superior knowledge of dog behavior. I'm so wrong. Now boys.........behave or no cookies and milk for you tonight! Die. Eh? ROFL!!!!!!!!!! You can roll on the floor (whatever that means) all you want Doug, but I still don't understand your "die" comment. Sorry, missed the "L" part.....................doh! Color me slow but I still don't understand your 'die' comment though. |
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. .. Color me slow.... Done. A long time ago. :-) But you're still OK. |
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"Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... " JimH" wrote in message ... Color me slow but I still don't understand your 'die' comment though. Done. A long time ago. :-) But you're still OK. I wish I could return the compliment. ;-) |
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" JimH" wrote in message ... "Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... " JimH" wrote in message m... Color me slow but I still don't understand your 'die' comment though. Done. A long time ago. :-) But you're still OK. I wish I could return the compliment. ;-) Kind of a sideways you-gotta-squint-to-see-it compliment, but still....... |
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"Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... I don't know much about them, but I have to agree with you, based on an enormous statistical dog sampling of....one. One of my historical neighbors had a "blend" (he didn't like "mutt") of two or eight big dogs. After three years of living in the adjacent yard, the dog still didn't consider us to be familiar. Any time we came out our back door, the dump thing would bark like Godzilla was about to walk through the yard. There were times when I really wanted some peace and quiet, and Gawkins' method worked nicely, in terms of getting the dog to shut the phuque up. ***HOWEVER***, it was clear that if this was a normal dog, with a brain, balls, and some size, without a fence, my method (towering over the fence and roaring at it) would've turned out badly for me. Several years ago the house we owned at the time was broken into while we were all away. The thieves helped themselves to many items. When the crime lab investigators were doing their thing, I asked for a recommendation for a home security system. He said forget the fancy electronics and just get yourself a big, loud dog. Statistically, thieves will avoid entering a house with a barking dog but security devices don't phase them. Eisboch |
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"Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... " JimH" wrote in message ... "Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... " JimH" wrote in message om... Color me slow but I still don't understand your 'die' comment though. Done. A long time ago. :-) But you're still OK. I wish I could return the compliment. ;-) Kind of a sideways you-gotta-squint-to-see-it compliment, but still....... Sorry Doug but I saw it as clear as a bell. No squinting needed. ;-) |
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"Eisboch" wrote in message ... "Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... I don't know much about them, but I have to agree with you, based on an enormous statistical dog sampling of....one. One of my historical neighbors had a "blend" (he didn't like "mutt") of two or eight big dogs. After three years of living in the adjacent yard, the dog still didn't consider us to be familiar. Any time we came out our back door, the dump thing would bark like Godzilla was about to walk through the yard. There were times when I really wanted some peace and quiet, and Gawkins' method worked nicely, in terms of getting the dog to shut the phuque up. ***HOWEVER***, it was clear that if this was a normal dog, with a brain, balls, and some size, without a fence, my method (towering over the fence and roaring at it) would've turned out badly for me. Several years ago the house we owned at the time was broken into while we were all away. The thieves helped themselves to many items. When the crime lab investigators were doing their thing, I asked for a recommendation for a home security system. He said forget the fancy electronics and just get yourself a big, loud dog. Statistically, thieves will avoid entering a house with a barking dog but security devices don't phase them. Eisboch I agree, but you must live where it's toasty and warm outdoors all year long. Think about having to walk a dog when the snow's blowing sideways and it's two (as in 2) degrees Fahrenheit. A friend of mine's in the home security biz, and he installs totally insane sirens on the roof of his clients' homes. They're illegal here. The fine for having them is something like $150.00. He tells his clients to decide what's cheaper. The fine, their deductible, or their belongings. Most of them choose the siren. Sometimes he even installs them inside, hidden behind pretty solid brass heat registers in the walls. They hurt. |
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" JimH" wrote in message ... "Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... " JimH" wrote in message ... "Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... " JimH" wrote in message news:GcSdnd7uQJDx4y3enZ2dnUVZ_s2dnZ2d@comcast. com... Color me slow but I still don't understand your 'die' comment though. Done. A long time ago. :-) But you're still OK. I wish I could return the compliment. ;-) Kind of a sideways you-gotta-squint-to-see-it compliment, but still....... Sorry Doug but I saw it as clear as a bell. No squinting needed. ;-) Two hours with me and my friends Mike & Tom, and we could get you all straightened out & up to speed. :-) |
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"Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... "Eisboch" wrote in message ... I agree, but you must live where it's toasty and warm outdoors all year long. Think about having to walk a dog when the snow's blowing sideways and it's two (as in 2) degrees Fahrenheit. Warm and toasty? Hardly. We are supposed to get a couple of inches of warm and toasty tonight. Not as bad as your area probably, but definitely not warm and toasty until August. (Coldest night so far this winter was around 14 degrees F. a few days ago.) Eisboch |
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Doug Kanter wrote:
I agree, but you must live where it's toasty and warm outdoors all year long. Think about having to walk a dog when the snow's blowing sideways and it's two (as in 2) degrees Fahrenheit. snip... You can take care of that problem by buying the dog a moisture shedding coat. That should keep it warm enough for those cold walks. |
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"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... I bow to your superior knowledge of dog behavior. I'm so wrong. Superior nothin'. I know what's worked for me. I'm no dog expert, but I've had a number of my own, and love em all. |
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"Don White" wrote in message ... Doug Kanter wrote: I agree, but you must live where it's toasty and warm outdoors all year long. Think about having to walk a dog when the snow's blowing sideways and it's two (as in 2) degrees Fahrenheit. snip... You can take care of that problem by buying the dog a moisture shedding coat. That should keep it warm enough for those cold walks. The dog? Tom figured this out. You must be hittin' the Canadian whiskey way too hard this evening, Mr. White. :-) |
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"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... On Tue, 27 Dec 2005 01:06:04 GMT, Don White wrote: Doug Kanter wrote: I agree, but you must live where it's toasty and warm outdoors all year long. Think about having to walk a dog when the snow's blowing sideways and it's two (as in 2) degrees Fahrenheit. snip... You can take care of that problem by buying the dog a moisture shedding coat. That should keep it warm enough for those cold walks. I don't think Doug is concerned about the dog on those cold walks. It's blindness that concerns me. I wear glasses. If it's cold enough to be dangerous, you're supposed to cover your nose and mouth. That sends your breath straight up to the glasses, which fog up. Now you're blind. All this for home security (a dog)? No. I have a deadbolt on the cellar door, and it's reinforced with steel straps. The point is not to keep intruders out. It's to force them to make lots of noise. There's a box of black lawn & leaf bags that is never opened and used for lawn and leaves. They're for the Special Purpose, which I doubt will ever happen. If they break in when nobody's home, I really don't care. |
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"Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... "Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message This is a serious question: What's the most effective, yet socially acceptable way to get SOMEONE ELSE'S dog to stop jumping on you, if the someone else is a person you'd like to speak to again in the future, even though they're sort of clueless dolts when it comes to their dog? I'm not worried much about the socially acceptable way to tell someone else's dog how to behave. If the dog owner has not taught their dog proper behavior for its age, I feel I have every right to train their dog on the spot. I use whatever firm commands and hand control necessary to make their dog do what I need it to do for my comfort. The caveat, of course, is that it is always situational and my response is reasonable (I hope). |
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"JohnH" wrote in message ... On Sun, 25 Dec 2005 09:11:10 -0500, Wayne.B wrote: On Sun, 25 Dec 2005 12:59:02 GMT, Shortwave Sportfishing wrote: Their 20oz T-Bone is a joy to behold. Damn, I haven't been there in a long time. Maybe tomorrow. Merry Christmas all! -- John H I tried their Rib Eye with their Greg Norman Cabernet/Merlot the other day; a great combination. Give it a try. |
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"Bryan" wrote in message ... "Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... "Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message This is a serious question: What's the most effective, yet socially acceptable way to get SOMEONE ELSE'S dog to stop jumping on you, if the someone else is a person you'd like to speak to again in the future, even though they're sort of clueless dolts when it comes to their dog? I'm not worried much about the socially acceptable way to tell someone else's dog how to behave. If the dog owner has not taught their dog proper behavior for its age, I feel I have every right to train their dog on the spot. I use whatever firm commands and hand control necessary to make their dog do what I need it to do for my comfort. The caveat, of course, is that it is always situational and my response is reasonable (I hope). Yeah, well that's what I meant. Later this week, I'll be at someone's house for dinner. I have a thing about peace and harmony during meals. It helps digestion. My solution to sharp, dirty paws on my sweater would be to grab the dog by the brisket and smack it really hard on the nose, but that might make for a less than harmonious time with the owner. If Tom says dogs don't like their paws being grabbed, that's good enough for me. Incidentally, these particular dogs have already chewed the wiring harnesses out of one car and two pieces of yard equipment. They were drawing up plans for the wiring in my friend's Jaguar next, but he got wind of the conspiracy and started parking it outside the invisible fence. There are real problems at his place. |
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On Tue, 27 Dec 2005 07:48:04 -0500, Harry Krause wrote:
Bryan wrote: "JohnH" wrote in message ... On Sun, 25 Dec 2005 09:11:10 -0500, Wayne.B wrote: On Sun, 25 Dec 2005 12:59:02 GMT, Shortwave Sportfishing wrote: Their 20oz T-Bone is a joy to behold. Damn, I haven't been there in a long time. Maybe tomorrow. Merry Christmas all! -- John H I tried their Rib Eye with their Greg Norman Cabernet/Merlot the other day; a great combination. Give it a try. Twenty ounces of beef? You guys order that much beef? Do you eat it all, or do you take it home for snacks the next few days? Well, there's a pretty good bone in the T-bone, but no, none gets taken home! Lot's of exercise! -- John H **** May your Christmas be Spectacular!**** *****...and your New Year even Better!***** |
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"JohnH" wrote in message ... On Tue, 27 Dec 2005 07:48:04 -0500, Harry Krause wrote: Bryan wrote: "JohnH" wrote in message ... On Sun, 25 Dec 2005 09:11:10 -0500, Wayne.B wrote: On Sun, 25 Dec 2005 12:59:02 GMT, Shortwave Sportfishing wrote: Their 20oz T-Bone is a joy to behold. Damn, I haven't been there in a long time. Maybe tomorrow. Merry Christmas all! -- John H I tried their Rib Eye with their Greg Norman Cabernet/Merlot the other day; a great combination. Give it a try. Twenty ounces of beef? You guys order that much beef? Do you eat it all, or do you take it home for snacks the next few days? Well, there's a pretty good bone in the T-bone, but no, none gets taken home! Lot's of exercise! -- John H There's a place near here that's famous for its prime rib. I was there once and petite little old ladies at the next table were wolfing down the 2 pound slabs. Unreal. |
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On Tue, 27 Dec 2005 14:29:36 GMT, "Doug Kanter" wrote:
"JohnH" wrote in message .. . On Tue, 27 Dec 2005 07:48:04 -0500, Harry Krause wrote: Bryan wrote: "JohnH" wrote in message ... On Sun, 25 Dec 2005 09:11:10 -0500, Wayne.B wrote: On Sun, 25 Dec 2005 12:59:02 GMT, Shortwave Sportfishing wrote: Their 20oz T-Bone is a joy to behold. Damn, I haven't been there in a long time. Maybe tomorrow. Merry Christmas all! -- John H I tried their Rib Eye with their Greg Norman Cabernet/Merlot the other day; a great combination. Give it a try. Twenty ounces of beef? You guys order that much beef? Do you eat it all, or do you take it home for snacks the next few days? Well, there's a pretty good bone in the T-bone, but no, none gets taken home! Lot's of exercise! -- John H There's a place near here that's famous for its prime rib. I was there once and petite little old ladies at the next table were wolfing down the 2 pound slabs. Unreal. The local Safeway had a sale on prime rib roasts, $4.99/lb. I found a beautiful 7-pounder that will be cut into about 5 steaks. They are fabulous. -- John H **** May your Christmas be Spectacular!**** *****...and your New Year even Better!***** |
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On Tue, 27 Dec 2005 09:46:30 -0500, Harry Krause wrote:
JohnH wrote: On Tue, 27 Dec 2005 07:48:04 -0500, Harry Krause wrote: Bryan wrote: "JohnH" wrote in message ... On Sun, 25 Dec 2005 09:11:10 -0500, Wayne.B wrote: On Sun, 25 Dec 2005 12:59:02 GMT, Shortwave Sportfishing wrote: Their 20oz T-Bone is a joy to behold. Damn, I haven't been there in a long time. Maybe tomorrow. Merry Christmas all! -- John H I tried their Rib Eye with their Greg Norman Cabernet/Merlot the other day; a great combination. Give it a try. Twenty ounces of beef? You guys order that much beef? Do you eat it all, or do you take it home for snacks the next few days? Well, there's a pretty good bone in the T-bone, but no, none gets taken home! Lot's of exercise! -- John H I hardly ever order a steak at a restaurant. Once in a while, I'll order a small prime rib, because prime rib is not something I cook at home. When we eat out, I usually do not order what I cook. When I lived in KC, back when the stockyards were still active, there were at least a dozen restaurants in the downtown area where you could buy a first-class steak dinner (12 ounce steak, baked spud, salad) for $2.50, and the beef was prime. I "steaked out" my first year on the paper. There was also a sort of diner place called "Nichols Restaurant" or maybe it was "Nichols Lunch" where you could buy steak and eggs with toast for 99 cents. Great hamburgers, too, at a place called Winsteds. In my days in KC, the ballpark was downtown, within walking distance of Bryants' Barbecue, considered the best barbecue in the world. Really. Sometimes I'd get assigned to write a "crowd" story on a particular ball game, an assignment I relished, because the pressbox copy boys would be dispatched to Bryants to bring back all the barbecue they could carry. There was always a keg in the press box. Those were the days. A prime rib roast is very easy to cook at home. The method I like the best, is a searing method where the roast is cooked at 450 degrees for 15 to 20 minutes, or until slightly browned and then at 325 degrees for 14 to 17 minutes per pound or until the meat thermometer reaches 5 degrees under desired temperature. I cut the fat on top to make a 'cap', liberally sprinkle Monterey Steak Seasoning over the roast, especially thick under the cap, Then lay the cap back over the roast. It's excellent. The horseradish sauce recipe that JimH provided is an excellent condiment to serve with it. -- John H **** May your Christmas be Spectacular!**** *****...and your New Year even Better!***** |
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