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Yo - John H (and other photo folks)
Tom,
How did you add the "light" after the picture was taken? The look professional, what camera are you using? Also, in the last photo is the nude girl someone you know? "Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... This is an example of what I was talking about the other day. This is an uncorrected image: http://www.swsports.org/images/PC219359.JPG This is the corrected image: http://www.swsports.org/images/Untitled14.jpg This is uncropped and uncorrected: http://www.swsports.org/images/PC219295.JPG This is cropped and corrected: http://www.swsports.org/images/Untitled11.jpg |
Yo - John H (and other photo folks)
On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 07:41:54 -0500, "Reggie Smithers" Reggie( is my first name)
Smithers wrote: Tom, How did you add the "light" after the picture was taken? The look professional, what camera are you using? Also, in the last photo is the nude girl someone you know? "Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message .. . This is an example of what I was talking about the other day. This is an uncorrected image: http://www.swsports.org/images/PC219359.JPG This is the corrected image: http://www.swsports.org/images/Untitled14.jpg This is uncropped and uncorrected: http://www.swsports.org/images/PC219295.JPG This is cropped and corrected: http://www.swsports.org/images/Untitled11.jpg With the software on the market, i.e. Adobe Photoshop Elements, you can make a picture as bright or as dark as you want. 'Elements' costs about $100 versus about $500 or so for the full blown version. IrfanView is the editor I've used for years, and it's free: http://www.irfanview.com/ It's a great product. It's one of the few 'freeware' products that I've made a donation for. -- John H **** May your Christmas be Spectacular!**** *****...and your New Year even Better!***** |
Yo - John H (and other photo folks)
"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 07:41:54 -0500, "Reggie Smithers" Reggie( is my first name) Smithers wrote: Tom, How did you add the "light" after the picture was taken? Post processing with Paint Shop Pro. The look professional, what camera are you using? Oympus E-300. Also, in the last photo is the nude girl someone you know? What? She really looked nice. I loved the red hair, and she really had some nice perky tits. |
Yo - John H (and other photo folks)
On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 07:41:54 -0500, "Reggie Smithers" Reggie( is my first name)
Smithers wrote: Tom, How did you add the "light" after the picture was taken? The look professional, what camera are you using? Also, in the last photo is the nude girl someone you know? "Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message .. . This is an example of what I was talking about the other day. This is an uncorrected image: http://www.swsports.org/images/PC219359.JPG This is the corrected image: http://www.swsports.org/images/Untitled14.jpg This is uncropped and uncorrected: http://www.swsports.org/images/PC219295.JPG This is cropped and corrected: http://www.swsports.org/images/Untitled11.jpg -- John H **** May your Christmas be Spectacular!**** *****...and your New Year even Better!***** |
Yo - John H (and other photo folks)
Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:
On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 07:41:54 -0500, "Reggie Smithers" Reggie( is my first name) Smithers wrote: Tom, How did you add the "light" after the picture was taken? Post processing with Paint Shop Pro. The look professional, what camera are you using? Oympus E-300. Also, in the last photo is the nude girl someone you know? What? Nude girl?.. please post that URL again. |
Yo - John H (and other photo folks)
Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:
On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 16:35:40 GMT, Don White wrote: Shortwave Sportfishing wrote: On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 07:41:54 -0500, "Reggie Smithers" Reggie( is my first name) Smithers wrote: Tom, How did you add the "light" after the picture was taken? Post processing with Paint Shop Pro. The look professional, what camera are you using? Oympus E-300. Also, in the last photo is the nude girl someone you know? What? Nude girl?.. please post that URL again. http://www.swsports.org/images/nude.jpg I don't want them that willing...I like a bit of a challenge. :-) |
Yo - John H (and other photo folks)
Shortwave Sportfishing wrote: IrfanView is the editor I've used for years, and it's free: http://www.irfanview.com/ It's a great product. It's one of the few 'freeware' products that I've made a donation for. I just took a look at it - I'm going to download it and see what's what. The wife has a photo of us propped up on the monitor, the skin tones have us looking like we've been bobbing for french fries so I showed her the homepage of irfanview to see if she wanted to download it. She looked for a bit and saw the small box on the right to download through "Tucows" and said no, as "Tucows" is notorius spyware. There is another download option on the left side of the page, whether they are tied together or not I don't know. Sam |
Yo - John H (and other photo folks)
I forgot to add, I'm not impressed by the red hair and perky tits, but
that sure is a nice looking pussy! Sam |
Yo - John H (and other photo folks)
On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 17:30:37 GMT, Shortwave Sportfishing
wrote: On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 08:09:52 -0500, JohnH wrote: With the software on the market, i.e. Adobe Photoshop Elements, you can make a picture as bright or as dark as you want. 'Elements' costs about $100 versus about $500 or so for the full blown version. IrfanView is the editor I've used for years, and it's free: http://www.irfanview.com/ It's a great product. It's one of the few 'freeware' products that I've made a donation for. It's pretty basic, but it does some of the more basic functions well. It doesn't do anything that I can't already do with PSP. No, it doesn't have the capabilities of most of the other software that is bought. It is quick and nimble for the simple things, like cropping, slide shows, red-eye reduction, some color correction, etc. I use it as my basic viewer. It takes no time to load, as does Photoshop Elements. -- John H **** May your Christmas be Spectacular!**** *****...and your New Year even Better!***** |
Yo - John H (and other photo folks)
"Sam" wrote in message oups.com... Shortwave Sportfishing wrote: IrfanView is the editor I've used for years, and it's free: http://www.irfanview.com/ It's a great product. It's one of the few 'freeware' products that I've made a donation for. I just took a look at it - I'm going to download it and see what's what. The wife has a photo of us propped up on the monitor, the skin tones have us looking like we've been bobbing for french fries so I showed her the homepage of irfanview to see if she wanted to download it. She looked for a bit and saw the small box on the right to download through "Tucows" and said no, as "Tucows" is notorius spyware. There is another download option on the left side of the page, whether they are tied together or not I don't know. Sam Since when was the Tucows site considered "spyware"? Got a link I can read? |
Yo - John H (and other photo folks)
On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 18:32:12 GMT, "Doug Kanter" wrote:
"Sam" wrote in message roups.com... Shortwave Sportfishing wrote: IrfanView is the editor I've used for years, and it's free: http://www.irfanview.com/ It's a great product. It's one of the few 'freeware' products that I've made a donation for. I just took a look at it - I'm going to download it and see what's what. The wife has a photo of us propped up on the monitor, the skin tones have us looking like we've been bobbing for french fries so I showed her the homepage of irfanview to see if she wanted to download it. She looked for a bit and saw the small box on the right to download through "Tucows" and said no, as "Tucows" is notorius spyware. There is another download option on the left side of the page, whether they are tied together or not I don't know. Sam Since when was the Tucows site considered "spyware"? Got a link I can read? I had the same thought. I've been downloading Irfan's software for a lot of years. -- John H **** May your Christmas be Spectacular!**** *****...and your New Year even Better!***** |
Yo - John H (and other photo folks)
"JohnH" wrote in message ... On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 18:32:12 GMT, "Doug Kanter" wrote: "Sam" wrote in message groups.com... Shortwave Sportfishing wrote: IrfanView is the editor I've used for years, and it's free: http://www.irfanview.com/ It's a great product. It's one of the few 'freeware' products that I've made a donation for. I just took a look at it - I'm going to download it and see what's what. The wife has a photo of us propped up on the monitor, the skin tones have us looking like we've been bobbing for french fries so I showed her the homepage of irfanview to see if she wanted to download it. She looked for a bit and saw the small box on the right to download through "Tucows" and said no, as "Tucows" is notorius spyware. There is another download option on the left side of the page, whether they are tied together or not I don't know. Sam Since when was the Tucows site considered "spyware"? Got a link I can read? I had the same thought. I've been downloading Irfan's software for a lot of years. Yeah, but that's available in numerous places other than Tucows. He's talking about the site itself being "spyware". I think he's been reading local computer shmexperts in his newspaper. The site tries to set way too many cookies, but that's about it. |
Yo - John H (and other photo folks)
Doug Kanter wrote: "Sam" wrote in message ...and saw the small box on the right to download through "Tucows" and said no, as "Tucows" is notorius spyware. There is another download option on the left side of the page, whether they are tied together or not I don't know. Sam Since when was the Tucows site considered "spyware"? Got a link I can read? Absolutely not. I googled around and couldn't find anything. Lucy's got some 'splanin' to do. My bad. Sam |
Yo - John H (and other photo folks)
On 23 Dec 2005 11:27:19 -0800, "Sam" wrote:
Since when was the Tucows site considered "spyware"? Got a link I can read? Absolutely not. I googled around and couldn't find anything. Lucy's got some 'splanin' to do. My bad. Sam ============================= A lot of the software available on Tucows (and other free download sites) contains Spyware. That's a fact. Whenever you get something for free, there's usualy a catch somewhere. Spyware is it. |
Yo - John H (and other photo folks)
Wayne.B wrote: On 23 Dec 2005 11:27:19 -0800, "Sam" wrote: Since when was the Tucows site considered "spyware"? Got a link I can read? Absolutely not. I googled around and couldn't find anything. Lucy's got some 'splanin' to do. My bad. Sam ============================= A lot of the software available on Tucows (and other free download sites) contains Spyware. That's a fact. Whenever you get something for free, there's usualy a catch somewhere. Spyware is it. Yes, that's what Lucy said just before she slipped into unconsiousness from the beating I gave her. ;-) After a short but stellar career, I am retiring from the computer advice field. Sam |
Yo - John H (and other photo folks)
"Wayne.B" wrote in message ... On 23 Dec 2005 11:27:19 -0800, "Sam" wrote: Since when was the Tucows site considered "spyware"? Got a link I can read? Absolutely not. I googled around and couldn't find anything. Lucy's got some 'splanin' to do. My bad. Sam ============================= A lot of the software available on Tucows (and other free download sites) contains Spyware. That's a fact. Whenever you get something for free, there's usualy a catch somewhere. Spyware is it. Oh please...freeware is not automatically equal to spyware. If you don't trust Tucows, visit www.download.com (cNet) instead. It's somewhat more businesslike, and they really do check things carefully. |
Yo - John H (and other photo folks)
"Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... "Wayne.B" wrote in message ... On 23 Dec 2005 11:27:19 -0800, "Sam" wrote: Since when was the Tucows site considered "spyware"? Got a link I can read? Absolutely not. I googled around and couldn't find anything. Lucy's got some 'splanin' to do. My bad. Sam ============================= A lot of the software available on Tucows (and other free download sites) contains Spyware. That's a fact. Whenever you get something for free, there's usualy a catch somewhere. Spyware is it. Oh please...freeware is not automatically equal to spyware. If you don't trust Tucows, visit www.download.com (cNet) instead. It's somewhat more businesslike, and they really do check things carefully. I never had a problem with spyware after downloading from Tucows. |
Yo - John H (and other photo folks)
On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 23:04:59 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote: Oh please...freeware is not automatically equal to spyware. If you don't trust Tucows, visit www.download.com (cNet) instead. It's somewhat more businesslike, and they really do check things carefully. ====================================== CNET has come in for their share of grief also. I was a downloader par excellence at one time but I've backed off after a few bad experiences. If someone is charging decent money for the software, at least there's an organization to go after if it messes up your computer. I prefer to let others do the beta testing. |
Yo - John H (and other photo folks)
"Wayne.B" wrote in message ... On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 23:04:59 GMT, "Doug Kanter" wrote: Oh please...freeware is not automatically equal to spyware. If you don't trust Tucows, visit www.download.com (cNet) instead. It's somewhat more businesslike, and they really do check things carefully. ====================================== CNET has come in for their share of grief also. I was a downloader par excellence at one time but I've backed off after a few bad experiences. If someone is charging decent money for the software, at least there's an organization to go after if it messes up your computer. I prefer to let others do the beta testing. If you had a real firewall, you wouldn't give a damn about spyware, John. What firewall do you use? |
Yo - John H (and other photo folks)
On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 00:07:34 GMT, "Doug Kanter" wrote:
"Wayne.B" wrote in message .. . On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 23:04:59 GMT, "Doug Kanter" wrote: Oh please...freeware is not automatically equal to spyware. If you don't trust Tucows, visit www.download.com (cNet) instead. It's somewhat more businesslike, and they really do check things carefully. ====================================== CNET has come in for their share of grief also. I was a downloader par excellence at one time but I've backed off after a few bad experiences. If someone is charging decent money for the software, at least there's an organization to go after if it messes up your computer. I prefer to let others do the beta testing. If you had a real firewall, you wouldn't give a damn about spyware, John. What firewall do you use? I wasn't the one worried about the spyware. I'm the one who suggested the program to be downloaded. I use McAfee, spybot, and adaware. So far I've been pretty lucky. -- John H **** May your Christmas be Spectacular!**** *****...and your New Year even Better!***** |
Yo - John H (and other photo folks)
"JohnH" wrote in message ... On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 00:07:34 GMT, "Doug Kanter" wrote: "Wayne.B" wrote in message . .. On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 23:04:59 GMT, "Doug Kanter" wrote: Oh please...freeware is not automatically equal to spyware. If you don't trust Tucows, visit www.download.com (cNet) instead. It's somewhat more businesslike, and they really do check things carefully. ====================================== CNET has come in for their share of grief also. I was a downloader par excellence at one time but I've backed off after a few bad experiences. If someone is charging decent money for the software, at least there's an organization to go after if it messes up your computer. I prefer to let others do the beta testing. If you had a real firewall, you wouldn't give a damn about spyware, John. What firewall do you use? I wasn't the one worried about the spyware. I'm the one who suggested the program to be downloaded. I use McAfee, spybot, and adaware. So far I've been pretty lucky. -- John H **** May your Christmas be Spectacular!**** *****...and your New Year even Better!***** McAfee *what*? Does it include a firewall which controls *outbound* nasties? The one that's included with Windows XP only deals with inbound stuff. |
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On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 01:02:32 GMT, "Doug Kanter" wrote:
"JohnH" wrote in message .. . On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 00:07:34 GMT, "Doug Kanter" wrote: "Wayne.B" wrote in message ... On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 23:04:59 GMT, "Doug Kanter" wrote: Oh please...freeware is not automatically equal to spyware. If you don't trust Tucows, visit www.download.com (cNet) instead. It's somewhat more businesslike, and they really do check things carefully. ====================================== CNET has come in for their share of grief also. I was a downloader par excellence at one time but I've backed off after a few bad experiences. If someone is charging decent money for the software, at least there's an organization to go after if it messes up your computer. I prefer to let others do the beta testing. If you had a real firewall, you wouldn't give a damn about spyware, John. What firewall do you use? I wasn't the one worried about the spyware. I'm the one who suggested the program to be downloaded. I use McAfee, spybot, and adaware. So far I've been pretty lucky. -- John H **** May your Christmas be Spectacular!**** *****...and your New Year even Better!***** McAfee *what*? Does it include a firewall which controls *outbound* nasties? The one that's included with Windows XP only deals with inbound stuff. McAfee Personal Firewall Plus. You specify, for each program, what it can do. You can allow or block inbound or outbound or both. -- John H **** May your Christmas be Spectacular!**** *****...and your New Year even Better!***** |
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"JohnH" wrote in message ... On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 01:02:32 GMT, "Doug Kanter" wrote: "JohnH" wrote in message . .. On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 00:07:34 GMT, "Doug Kanter" wrote: "Wayne.B" wrote in message m... On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 23:04:59 GMT, "Doug Kanter" wrote: Oh please...freeware is not automatically equal to spyware. If you don't trust Tucows, visit www.download.com (cNet) instead. It's somewhat more businesslike, and they really do check things carefully. ====================================== CNET has come in for their share of grief also. I was a downloader par excellence at one time but I've backed off after a few bad experiences. If someone is charging decent money for the software, at least there's an organization to go after if it messes up your computer. I prefer to let others do the beta testing. If you had a real firewall, you wouldn't give a damn about spyware, John. What firewall do you use? I wasn't the one worried about the spyware. I'm the one who suggested the program to be downloaded. I use McAfee, spybot, and adaware. So far I've been pretty lucky. -- John H **** May your Christmas be Spectacular!**** *****...and your New Year even Better!***** McAfee *what*? Does it include a firewall which controls *outbound* nasties? The one that's included with Windows XP only deals with inbound stuff. McAfee Personal Firewall Plus. You specify, for each program, what it can do. You can allow or block inbound or outbound or both. -- John H **** May your Christmas be Spectacular!**** *****...and your New Year even Better!***** A firewall alone will not stop spyware. Recommended programs to install: Spydefense Microsoft Antispyware SpywareBlaster Adaware Spybot The first 3 run in the background using very little resources. You manually scan your system with the last 2 after updating the definitions. I believe all are free. |
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" JimH" wrote in message ... "JohnH" wrote in message ... On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 01:02:32 GMT, "Doug Kanter" wrote: "JohnH" wrote in message ... On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 00:07:34 GMT, "Doug Kanter" wrote: "Wayne.B" wrote in message om... On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 23:04:59 GMT, "Doug Kanter" wrote: Oh please...freeware is not automatically equal to spyware. If you don't trust Tucows, visit www.download.com (cNet) instead. It's somewhat more businesslike, and they really do check things carefully. ====================================== CNET has come in for their share of grief also. I was a downloader par excellence at one time but I've backed off after a few bad experiences. If someone is charging decent money for the software, at least there's an organization to go after if it messes up your computer. I prefer to let others do the beta testing. If you had a real firewall, you wouldn't give a damn about spyware, John. What firewall do you use? I wasn't the one worried about the spyware. I'm the one who suggested the program to be downloaded. I use McAfee, spybot, and adaware. So far I've been pretty lucky. -- John H **** May your Christmas be Spectacular!**** *****...and your New Year even Better!***** McAfee *what*? Does it include a firewall which controls *outbound* nasties? The one that's included with Windows XP only deals with inbound stuff. McAfee Personal Firewall Plus. You specify, for each program, what it can do. You can allow or block inbound or outbound or both. -- John H **** May your Christmas be Spectacular!**** *****...and your New Year even Better!***** A firewall alone will not stop spyware. Recommended programs to install: Spydefense Microsoft Antispyware SpywareBlaster Adaware Spybot The first 3 run in the background using very little resources. You manually scan your system with the last 2 after updating the definitions. I believe all are free. It depends on what you mean by "stop". For years, ZoneAlarm has been able to stop *any* program trying to send data outbound without your permission. It was up to you to determine a course of action when a detection was made. Recently, the program added the ability to detect the actual identity of spyware, in the same way as Adaware and Spybot. |
OT: Internet Security Suites was Yo - John H (and other photo folks)
ZoneAlarm Security Suite has done a great job for me, for over a year. I
have not had a problem with Spyware or a Virus even though I do download freeware and trialware from many sites. I picked this based upon the recommendations of CNET. "ZoneAlarm Security Suite puts Norton and McAfee to shame with its easy-to-use triple-layer firewall, antivirus, antispam, and now antispyware features." http://reviews.cnet.com/4520-3667_7-6375268.html "Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... " JimH" wrote in message ... "JohnH" wrote in message ... On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 01:02:32 GMT, "Doug Kanter" wrote: "JohnH" wrote in message m... On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 00:07:34 GMT, "Doug Kanter" wrote: "Wayne.B" wrote in message news:791pq15flf2609seskcrgjfg9mmdfe0kd2@4ax. com... On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 23:04:59 GMT, "Doug Kanter" wrote: Oh please...freeware is not automatically equal to spyware. If you don't trust Tucows, visit www.download.com (cNet) instead. It's somewhat more businesslike, and they really do check things carefully. ====================================== CNET has come in for their share of grief also. I was a downloader par excellence at one time but I've backed off after a few bad experiences. If someone is charging decent money for the software, at least there's an organization to go after if it messes up your computer. I prefer to let others do the beta testing. If you had a real firewall, you wouldn't give a damn about spyware, John. What firewall do you use? I wasn't the one worried about the spyware. I'm the one who suggested the program to be downloaded. I use McAfee, spybot, and adaware. So far I've been pretty lucky. -- John H **** May your Christmas be Spectacular!**** *****...and your New Year even Better!***** McAfee *what*? Does it include a firewall which controls *outbound* nasties? The one that's included with Windows XP only deals with inbound stuff. McAfee Personal Firewall Plus. You specify, for each program, what it can do. You can allow or block inbound or outbound or both. -- John H **** May your Christmas be Spectacular!**** *****...and your New Year even Better!***** A firewall alone will not stop spyware. Recommended programs to install: Spydefense Microsoft Antispyware SpywareBlaster Adaware Spybot The first 3 run in the background using very little resources. You manually scan your system with the last 2 after updating the definitions. I believe all are free. It depends on what you mean by "stop". For years, ZoneAlarm has been able to stop *any* program trying to send data outbound without your permission. It was up to you to determine a course of action when a detection was made. Recently, the program added the ability to detect the actual identity of spyware, in the same way as Adaware and Spybot. |
Internet Security Suites was Yo - John H (and other photo folks)
"Reggie Smithers" wrote in message . .. ZoneAlarm Security Suite has done a great job for me, for over a year. I have not had a problem with Spyware or a Virus even though I do download freeware and trialware from many sites. I picked this based upon the recommendations of CNET. "ZoneAlarm Security Suite puts Norton and McAfee to shame with its easy-to-use triple-layer firewall, antivirus, antispam, and now antispyware features." http://reviews.cnet.com/4520-3667_7-6375268.html "Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... " JimH" wrote in message ... "JohnH" wrote in message ... On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 01:02:32 GMT, "Doug Kanter" wrote: "JohnH" wrote in message om... On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 00:07:34 GMT, "Doug Kanter" wrote: "Wayne.B" wrote in message news:791pq15flf2609seskcrgjfg9mmdfe0kd2@4ax .com... On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 23:04:59 GMT, "Doug Kanter" wrote: Oh please...freeware is not automatically equal to spyware. If you don't trust Tucows, visit www.download.com (cNet) instead. It's somewhat more businesslike, and they really do check things carefully. ====================================== CNET has come in for their share of grief also. I was a downloader par excellence at one time but I've backed off after a few bad experiences. If someone is charging decent money for the software, at least there's an organization to go after if it messes up your computer. I prefer to let others do the beta testing. If you had a real firewall, you wouldn't give a damn about spyware, John. What firewall do you use? I wasn't the one worried about the spyware. I'm the one who suggested the program to be downloaded. I use McAfee, spybot, and adaware. So far I've been pretty lucky. -- John H **** May your Christmas be Spectacular!**** *****...and your New Year even Better!***** McAfee *what*? Does it include a firewall which controls *outbound* nasties? The one that's included with Windows XP only deals with inbound stuff. McAfee Personal Firewall Plus. You specify, for each program, what it can do. You can allow or block inbound or outbound or both. -- John H **** May your Christmas be Spectacular!**** *****...and your New Year even Better!***** A firewall alone will not stop spyware. Recommended programs to install: Spydefense Microsoft Antispyware SpywareBlaster Adaware Spybot The first 3 run in the background using very little resources. You manually scan your system with the last 2 after updating the definitions. I believe all are free. It depends on what you mean by "stop". For years, ZoneAlarm has been able to stop *any* program trying to send data outbound without your permission. It was up to you to determine a course of action when a detection was made. Recently, the program added the ability to detect the actual identity of spyware, in the same way as Adaware and Spybot. Sure. Try running the programs I suggested to see what a good job ZoneAlarm has done for you blocking spyware. I guarantee you that you will be amazed at how much spyware you have on your machine if you rely on ZoneAlarm only. |
Internet Security Suites was Yo - John H (and other photo folks)
"Reggie Smithers" wrote in message
. .. ZoneAlarm Security Suite has done a great job for me, for over a year. I have not had a problem with Spyware or a Virus even though I do download freeware and trialware from many sites. I picked this based upon the recommendations of CNET. "ZoneAlarm Security Suite puts Norton and McAfee to shame with its easy-to-use triple-layer firewall, antivirus, antispam, and now antispyware features." http://reviews.cnet.com/4520-3667_7-6375268.html Yeah...PC Magazine has been consistent in their support for ZA , also. I currently use it as firewall, but not the full security suite with av protection. I'm still using Norton Antivirus for that. This computer's about the be replaced, though. I may go with the all-in-one ZA on the next one. We'll see. |
Internet Security Suites was Yo - John H (and other photo folks)
" JimH" wrote in message ... "Reggie Smithers" wrote in message . .. ZoneAlarm Security Suite has done a great job for me, for over a year. I have not had a problem with Spyware or a Virus even though I do download freeware and trialware from many sites. I picked this based upon the recommendations of CNET. "ZoneAlarm Security Suite puts Norton and McAfee to shame with its easy-to-use triple-layer firewall, antivirus, antispam, and now antispyware features." http://reviews.cnet.com/4520-3667_7-6375268.html "Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... " JimH" wrote in message ... "JohnH" wrote in message ... On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 01:02:32 GMT, "Doug Kanter" wrote: "JohnH" wrote in message news:a07pq11b9gab0f0764h9qlourn1jvm6trp@4ax. com... On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 00:07:34 GMT, "Doug Kanter" wrote: "Wayne.B" wrote in message news:791pq15flf2609seskcrgjfg9mmdfe0kd2@4a x.com... On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 23:04:59 GMT, "Doug Kanter" wrote: Oh please...freeware is not automatically equal to spyware. If you don't trust Tucows, visit www.download.com (cNet) instead. It's somewhat more businesslike, and they really do check things carefully. ====================================== CNET has come in for their share of grief also. I was a downloader par excellence at one time but I've backed off after a few bad experiences. If someone is charging decent money for the software, at least there's an organization to go after if it messes up your computer. I prefer to let others do the beta testing. If you had a real firewall, you wouldn't give a damn about spyware, John. What firewall do you use? I wasn't the one worried about the spyware. I'm the one who suggested the program to be downloaded. I use McAfee, spybot, and adaware. So far I've been pretty lucky. -- John H **** May your Christmas be Spectacular!**** *****...and your New Year even Better!***** McAfee *what*? Does it include a firewall which controls *outbound* nasties? The one that's included with Windows XP only deals with inbound stuff. McAfee Personal Firewall Plus. You specify, for each program, what it can do. You can allow or block inbound or outbound or both. -- John H **** May your Christmas be Spectacular!**** *****...and your New Year even Better!***** A firewall alone will not stop spyware. Recommended programs to install: Spydefense Microsoft Antispyware SpywareBlaster Adaware Spybot The first 3 run in the background using very little resources. You manually scan your system with the last 2 after updating the definitions. I believe all are free. It depends on what you mean by "stop". For years, ZoneAlarm has been able to stop *any* program trying to send data outbound without your permission. It was up to you to determine a course of action when a detection was made. Recently, the program added the ability to detect the actual identity of spyware, in the same way as Adaware and Spybot. Sure. Try running the programs I suggested to see what a good job ZoneAlarm has done for you blocking spyware. I guarantee you that you will be amazed at how much spyware you have on your machine if you rely on ZoneAlarm only. Have you found that it misses OLD spyware threats, or just NEW ones? If new, how long before it catches up with the other programs? It's an odd thing I've noticed about spyware, and reviewers have said the same thing: A program like Adaware may be days or weeks behind Spybot in terms of recognizing a specific threat, or vice versa. But, AV manufacturers (Symantec, McAfee, etc) tend to be hours or perhaps a day apart, at worst, when a new virus is discovered. It makes no sense because there have been spyware threats which were every bit as serious as some viruses. It's as if they're not taken as seriously. |
Internet Security Suites was Yo - John H (and other photo folks)
"Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... " JimH" wrote in message ... "Reggie Smithers" wrote in message . .. ZoneAlarm Security Suite has done a great job for me, for over a year. I have not had a problem with Spyware or a Virus even though I do download freeware and trialware from many sites. I picked this based upon the recommendations of CNET. "ZoneAlarm Security Suite puts Norton and McAfee to shame with its easy-to-use triple-layer firewall, antivirus, antispam, and now antispyware features." http://reviews.cnet.com/4520-3667_7-6375268.html "Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... " JimH" wrote in message ... "JohnH" wrote in message ... On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 01:02:32 GMT, "Doug Kanter" wrote: "JohnH" wrote in message news:a07pq11b9gab0f0764h9qlourn1jvm6trp@4ax .com... On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 00:07:34 GMT, "Doug Kanter" wrote: "Wayne.B" wrote in message news:791pq15flf2609seskcrgjfg9mmdfe0kd2@4 ax.com... On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 23:04:59 GMT, "Doug Kanter" wrote: Oh please...freeware is not automatically equal to spyware. If you don't trust Tucows, visit www.download.com (cNet) instead. It's somewhat more businesslike, and they really do check things carefully. ====================================== CNET has come in for their share of grief also. I was a downloader par excellence at one time but I've backed off after a few bad experiences. If someone is charging decent money for the software, at least there's an organization to go after if it messes up your computer. I prefer to let others do the beta testing. If you had a real firewall, you wouldn't give a damn about spyware, John. What firewall do you use? I wasn't the one worried about the spyware. I'm the one who suggested the program to be downloaded. I use McAfee, spybot, and adaware. So far I've been pretty lucky. -- John H **** May your Christmas be Spectacular!**** *****...and your New Year even Better!***** McAfee *what*? Does it include a firewall which controls *outbound* nasties? The one that's included with Windows XP only deals with inbound stuff. McAfee Personal Firewall Plus. You specify, for each program, what it can do. You can allow or block inbound or outbound or both. -- John H **** May your Christmas be Spectacular!**** *****...and your New Year even Better!***** A firewall alone will not stop spyware. Recommended programs to install: Spydefense Microsoft Antispyware SpywareBlaster Adaware Spybot The first 3 run in the background using very little resources. You manually scan your system with the last 2 after updating the definitions. I believe all are free. It depends on what you mean by "stop". For years, ZoneAlarm has been able to stop *any* program trying to send data outbound without your permission. It was up to you to determine a course of action when a detection was made. Recently, the program added the ability to detect the actual identity of spyware, in the same way as Adaware and Spybot. Sure. Try running the programs I suggested to see what a good job ZoneAlarm has done for you blocking spyware. I guarantee you that you will be amazed at how much spyware you have on your machine if you rely on ZoneAlarm only. Have you found that it misses OLD spyware threats, or just NEW ones? If new, how long before it catches up with the other programs? It's an odd thing I've noticed about spyware, and reviewers have said the same thing: A program like Adaware may be days or weeks behind Spybot in terms of recognizing a specific threat, or vice versa. But, AV manufacturers (Symantec, McAfee, etc) tend to be hours or perhaps a day apart, at worst, when a new virus is discovered. It makes no sense because there have been spyware threats which were every bit as serious as some viruses. It's as if they're not taken as seriously. My protection consists of the programs listed above plus ZoneAlarm plus Avast antivirus (automatic updates and scans every night). |
Internet Security Suites was Yo - John H (and other photo folks)
On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 11:02:20 -0500, JimH wrote:
My protection consists of the programs listed above plus ZoneAlarm plus Avast antivirus (automatic updates and scans every night). My protection consists of running non-Microsoft products. ;-) Sorry, I couldn't resist. |
Internet Security Suites was Yo - John H (and other photo folks)
JimH,
I also run Adware and Spybot every few weeks, (this is an old habit I have from before I updated to ZA Security Suite). Since I update the databases on a fairly frequent basis, when I run Adware and Spybot, they very rarely catch any spyware that got by ZA Security Suite. I ran Spybot a week ago, and SpyBot did not show any Spyware on my computer. I just ran Ad-Aware SE before I sent this post and it did not catch any Spyware on my computer. I have ZoneAlarm Suite set not to allow tracking cookies (on medium setting) In the past ZoneAlarm and ZoneAlarm Plus did not do a good job of catching Spyware, based upon my usage of ZA Internet Security Suite, it really has done a good job of catching Spyware. YMMV " JimH" wrote in message ... "Reggie Smithers" wrote in message . .. ZoneAlarm Security Suite has done a great job for me, for over a year. I have not had a problem with Spyware or a Virus even though I do download freeware and trialware from many sites. I picked this based upon the recommendations of CNET. "ZoneAlarm Security Suite puts Norton and McAfee to shame with its easy-to-use triple-layer firewall, antivirus, antispam, and now antispyware features." http://reviews.cnet.com/4520-3667_7-6375268.html "Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... " JimH" wrote in message ... "JohnH" wrote in message ... On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 01:02:32 GMT, "Doug Kanter" wrote: "JohnH" wrote in message news:a07pq11b9gab0f0764h9qlourn1jvm6trp@4ax. com... On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 00:07:34 GMT, "Doug Kanter" wrote: "Wayne.B" wrote in message news:791pq15flf2609seskcrgjfg9mmdfe0kd2@4a x.com... On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 23:04:59 GMT, "Doug Kanter" wrote: Oh please...freeware is not automatically equal to spyware. If you don't trust Tucows, visit www.download.com (cNet) instead. It's somewhat more businesslike, and they really do check things carefully. ====================================== CNET has come in for their share of grief also. I was a downloader par excellence at one time but I've backed off after a few bad experiences. If someone is charging decent money for the software, at least there's an organization to go after if it messes up your computer. I prefer to let others do the beta testing. If you had a real firewall, you wouldn't give a damn about spyware, John. What firewall do you use? I wasn't the one worried about the spyware. I'm the one who suggested the program to be downloaded. I use McAfee, spybot, and adaware. So far I've been pretty lucky. -- John H **** May your Christmas be Spectacular!**** *****...and your New Year even Better!***** McAfee *what*? Does it include a firewall which controls *outbound* nasties? The one that's included with Windows XP only deals with inbound stuff. McAfee Personal Firewall Plus. You specify, for each program, what it can do. You can allow or block inbound or outbound or both. -- John H **** May your Christmas be Spectacular!**** *****...and your New Year even Better!***** A firewall alone will not stop spyware. Recommended programs to install: Spydefense Microsoft Antispyware SpywareBlaster Adaware Spybot The first 3 run in the background using very little resources. You manually scan your system with the last 2 after updating the definitions. I believe all are free. It depends on what you mean by "stop". For years, ZoneAlarm has been able to stop *any* program trying to send data outbound without your permission. It was up to you to determine a course of action when a detection was made. Recently, the program added the ability to detect the actual identity of spyware, in the same way as Adaware and Spybot. Sure. Try running the programs I suggested to see what a good job ZoneAlarm has done for you blocking spyware. I guarantee you that you will be amazed at how much spyware you have on your machine if you rely on ZoneAlarm only. |
Internet Security Suites was Yo - John H (and other photo folks)
"Reggie Smithers" wrote in message ... JimH, I also run Adware and Spybot every few weeks, (this is an old habit I have from before I updated to ZA Security Suite). Since I update the databases on a fairly frequent basis, when I run Adware and Spybot, they very rarely catch any spyware that got by ZA Security Suite. I ran Spybot a week ago, and SpyBot did not show any Spyware on my computer. I just ran Ad-Aware SE before I sent this post and it did not catch any Spyware on my computer. I have ZoneAlarm Suite set not to allow tracking cookies (on medium setting) In the past ZoneAlarm and ZoneAlarm Plus did not do a good job of catching Spyware, based upon my usage of ZA Internet Security Suite, it really has done a good job of catching Spyware. YMMV Download and run this program and let me know the results. |
Internet Security Suites was Yo - John H (and other photo folks)
"Reggie Smithers" wrote in message ... JimH, I also run Adware and Spybot every few weeks, (this is an old habit I have from before I updated to ZA Security Suite). Since I update the databases on a fairly frequent basis, when I run Adware and Spybot, they very rarely catch any spyware that got by ZA Security Suite. I ran Spybot a week ago, and SpyBot did not show any Spyware on my computer. I just ran Ad-Aware SE before I sent this post and it did not catch any Spyware on my computer. I have ZoneAlarm Suite set not to allow tracking cookies (on medium setting) In the past ZoneAlarm and ZoneAlarm Plus did not do a good job of catching Spyware, based upon my usage of ZA Internet Security Suite, it really has done a good job of catching Spyware. YMMV " JimH" wrote in message ... "Reggie Smithers" wrote in message . .. ZoneAlarm Security Suite has done a great job for me, for over a year. I have not had a problem with Spyware or a Virus even though I do download freeware and trialware from many sites. I picked this based upon the recommendations of CNET. "ZoneAlarm Security Suite puts Norton and McAfee to shame with its easy-to-use triple-layer firewall, antivirus, antispam, and now antispyware features." http://reviews.cnet.com/4520-3667_7-6375268.html "Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... " JimH" wrote in message ... "JohnH" wrote in message ... On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 01:02:32 GMT, "Doug Kanter" wrote: "JohnH" wrote in message news:a07pq11b9gab0f0764h9qlourn1jvm6trp@4ax .com... On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 00:07:34 GMT, "Doug Kanter" wrote: "Wayne.B" wrote in message news:791pq15flf2609seskcrgjfg9mmdfe0kd2@4 ax.com... On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 23:04:59 GMT, "Doug Kanter" wrote: Oh please...freeware is not automatically equal to spyware. If you don't trust Tucows, visit www.download.com (cNet) instead. It's somewhat more businesslike, and they really do check things carefully. ====================================== CNET has come in for their share of grief also. I was a downloader par excellence at one time but I've backed off after a few bad experiences. If someone is charging decent money for the software, at least there's an organization to go after if it messes up your computer. I prefer to let others do the beta testing. If you had a real firewall, you wouldn't give a damn about spyware, John. What firewall do you use? I wasn't the one worried about the spyware. I'm the one who suggested the program to be downloaded. I use McAfee, spybot, and adaware. So far I've been pretty lucky. -- John H **** May your Christmas be Spectacular!**** *****...and your New Year even Better!***** McAfee *what*? Does it include a firewall which controls *outbound* nasties? The one that's included with Windows XP only deals with inbound stuff. McAfee Personal Firewall Plus. You specify, for each program, what it can do. You can allow or block inbound or outbound or both. -- John H **** May your Christmas be Spectacular!**** *****...and your New Year even Better!***** A firewall alone will not stop spyware. Recommended programs to install: Spydefense Microsoft Antispyware SpywareBlaster Adaware Spybot The first 3 run in the background using very little resources. You manually scan your system with the last 2 after updating the definitions. I believe all are free. It depends on what you mean by "stop". For years, ZoneAlarm has been able to stop *any* program trying to send data outbound without your permission. It was up to you to determine a course of action when a detection was made. Recently, the program added the ability to detect the actual identity of spyware, in the same way as Adaware and Spybot. Sure. Try running the programs I suggested to see what a good job ZoneAlarm has done for you blocking spyware. I guarantee you that you will be amazed at how much spyware you have on your machine if you rely on ZoneAlarm only. Oops. http://www.snapfiles.com/reviews/Spy...pydefense.html |
Internet Security Suites was Yo - John H (and other photo folks)
" JimH" wrote in message
. .. Sure. Try running the programs I suggested to see what a good job ZoneAlarm has done for you blocking spyware. I guarantee you that you will be amazed at how much spyware you have on your machine if you rely on ZoneAlarm only. Oops. http://www.snapfiles.com/reviews/Spy...pydefense.html Even "good" software can cause some interesting, evil conflicts with things like sound & video drivers. It's one reason why you shouldn't continually try all sorts of stuff. When these conflicts occur, it's enough to drive you nuts, especially since uninstall routines cannot reverse the problem much of the time. |
Internet Security Suites was Yo - John H (and other photo folks)
"Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... " JimH" wrote in message ... Sure. Try running the programs I suggested to see what a good job ZoneAlarm has done for you blocking spyware. I guarantee you that you will be amazed at how much spyware you have on your machine if you rely on ZoneAlarm only. Oops. http://www.snapfiles.com/reviews/Spy...pydefense.html Even "good" software can cause some interesting, evil conflicts with things like sound & video drivers. It's one reason why you shouldn't continually try all sorts of stuff. When these conflicts occur, it's enough to drive you nuts, especially since uninstall routines cannot reverse the problem much of the time. I have not had a problem so far (knock on wood) running the programs I listed. |
Internet Security Suites was Yo - John H (and other photo folks)
" JimH" wrote in message . .. "Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... " JimH" wrote in message m... Sure. Try running the programs I suggested to see what a good job ZoneAlarm has done for you blocking spyware. I guarantee you that you will be amazed at how much spyware you have on your machine if you rely on ZoneAlarm only. Oops. http://www.snapfiles.com/reviews/Spy...pydefense.html Even "good" software can cause some interesting, evil conflicts with things like sound & video drivers. It's one reason why you shouldn't continually try all sorts of stuff. When these conflicts occur, it's enough to drive you nuts, especially since uninstall routines cannot reverse the problem much of the time. I have not had a problem so far (knock on wood) running the programs I listed. Keep doing those backups..... :-) I've had a couple of machines which got so screwed up by software-initiated device conflicts that I had to reformat & reinstall from scratch. You've probably seen machines which simply freeze while you're doing absolutely nothing to deserve it. If it's a home machine, maybe it's not a big deal. But, I've had it happen twice with the machine I run my business with. Not good. Now, I install nothing experimental on that machine, ever. |
Internet Security Suites was Yo - John H (and other photo folks)
"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 15:55:56 GMT, "Doug Kanter" wrote: "Reggie Smithers" wrote in message m... ZoneAlarm Security Suite has done a great job for me, for over a year. I have not had a problem with Spyware or a Virus even though I do download freeware and trialware from many sites. I picked this based upon the recommendations of CNET. "ZoneAlarm Security Suite puts Norton and McAfee to shame with its easy-to-use triple-layer firewall, antivirus, antispam, and now antispyware features." http://reviews.cnet.com/4520-3667_7-6375268.html Yeah...PC Magazine has been consistent in their support for ZA , also. I currently use it as firewall, but not the full security suite with av protection. I'm still using Norton Antivirus for that. This computer's about the be replaced, though. I may go with the all-in-one ZA on the next one. We'll see. I'll tell you - I like the Norton over the ZA - I've had connectivity problems with ZA and it's random - very annoying. I don't know why PC magazine rates it so high unless they have some geek chained up in a back room to fix the problems. What sorts of problems have you had with ZA? Norton works just fine for me - my computer is locked up tighter than a drum. My prejudice against all-in-one suites is related to resource usage. My current machine (Sony laptop) has a RAM limit of 256mb. NAV is a real pig. I still use it because I like everything else about it. But, along with all the other crap I have to run all day long, the machine can really get bogged down. My other issue with firewalls OTHER than ZA has been that they sometimes don't offer fine enough control for oddball things, like my company's VPN. If I install the full Norton suite on the next machine, I'm going to have to talk to one of their pre-sales support people first to be sure I can tweak the product the way I can with ZA. Of course, that means I need to learn to speak one of the dialects of India..... |
Internet Security Suites was Yo - John H (and other photo folks)
"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 17:46:51 GMT, "Doug Kanter" wrote: "Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message . .. On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 15:55:56 GMT, "Doug Kanter" wrote: "Reggie Smithers" wrote in message news:06SdndFA4YNY8DDenZ2dnUVZ_tWdnZ2d@comcast. com... ZoneAlarm Security Suite has done a great job for me, for over a year. I have not had a problem with Spyware or a Virus even though I do download freeware and trialware from many sites. I picked this based upon the recommendations of CNET. "ZoneAlarm Security Suite puts Norton and McAfee to shame with its easy-to-use triple-layer firewall, antivirus, antispam, and now antispyware features." http://reviews.cnet.com/4520-3667_7-6375268.html Yeah...PC Magazine has been consistent in their support for ZA , also. I currently use it as firewall, but not the full security suite with av protection. I'm still using Norton Antivirus for that. This computer's about the be replaced, though. I may go with the all-in-one ZA on the next one. We'll see. I'll tell you - I like the Norton over the ZA - I've had connectivity problems with ZA and it's random - very annoying. I don't know why PC magazine rates it so high unless they have some geek chained up in a back room to fix the problems. What sorts of problems have you had with ZA? Besides the poor cookie performance, it's firewall keep locking up sites on my or it won't allow me to access sites that I know are good. I've tried training it (as in allowed/not allowed) but the discrimination is way to broad and sites that I want to access are also blocked. ZA is a good program - it's just another example of geek gone wild and I don't like it. Norton works just fine for me - my computer is locked up tighter than a drum. My prejudice against all-in-one suites is related to resource usage. My current machine (Sony laptop) has a RAM limit of 256mb. NAV is a real pig. I still use it because I like everything else about it. But, along with all the other crap I have to run all day long, the machine can really get bogged down. My other issue with firewalls OTHER than ZA has been that they sometimes don't offer fine enough control for oddball things, like my company's VPN. If I install the full Norton suite on the next machine, I'm going to have to talk to one of their pre-sales support people first to be sure I can tweak the product the way I can with ZA. Of course, that means I need to learn to speak one of the dialects of India..... Exactly, but for the nongeek who just wants to use the computer instead of constantly adjusting for this site and that site, it's a freakin' horror show. I've used ZA for years, and didn't know it could block or allow certain sites. :-) |
Internet Security Suites was Yo - John H (and other photo folks)
JimH,
I am glad this works well for you, and out of curiousity I ran the program. After the initial scan, SpyDefense (Beta) told me I had some critical errors and needed to run the Advance Scan. After running the Advance Scan it found 3 Medium Threat issues. One was for software that I want, and was the paid Adware Free Software that it incorrectly identified as the Adware Supported Software, both use the same file name. The other two were orphan entries in the registry, and the files they reference (BHO's) are not on my computer. One was for EDonkey, and BHO.WebSearch-Toolbar.A (Wintools -a BHO). HiJackThis showed the only BHOs installed on my computer was Google Toolbar and Adobe, At this point I wanted to see what the experts recommended. Snapfiles rated SpyDefense as Fair. ZDNet, Download.com, PCWorld, Tuscows, Shareware.com and CNet.com does not have this product, or even include it in their ratings or reviews. All of the experts I have read do rate ZoneAlarm Security Suite as the best Internet Suite Software. from PCWorld: ZoneAlarm deals with existing spyware in a more traditional manner, by scanning your system for infections. To gauge ZoneAlarm's effectiveness at this task, I tested it and compared it with the free versions of Lavasoft Ad-Aware SE Personal and Spybot Search and Destroy 1.4. ZoneAlarm Security Suite removed an impressive 80 percent of the active adware and spyware components, while Ad-Aware knocked out 63 percent and Spybot got 59 percent. Despite my occasional disappointment with SmartDefense, I found ZoneAlarm Internet Security Suite 6 a solid product, offering an excellent firewall and above-average spyware removal. The suite is probably best suited for experienced users who don't mind responding to a bevy of program alerts." I am glad you have found this to be a good product, but based upon my very limited experience, I have removed it from my computer. " JimH" wrote in message . .. "Reggie Smithers" wrote in message ... JimH, I also run Adware and Spybot every few weeks, (this is an old habit I have from before I updated to ZA Security Suite). Since I update the databases on a fairly frequent basis, when I run Adware and Spybot, they very rarely catch any spyware that got by ZA Security Suite. I ran Spybot a week ago, and SpyBot did not show any Spyware on my computer. I just ran Ad-Aware SE before I sent this post and it did not catch any Spyware on my computer. I have ZoneAlarm Suite set not to allow tracking cookies (on medium setting) In the past ZoneAlarm and ZoneAlarm Plus did not do a good job of catching Spyware, based upon my usage of ZA Internet Security Suite, it really has done a good job of catching Spyware. YMMV " JimH" wrote in message ... "Reggie Smithers" wrote in message . .. ZoneAlarm Security Suite has done a great job for me, for over a year. I have not had a problem with Spyware or a Virus even though I do download freeware and trialware from many sites. I picked this based upon the recommendations of CNET. "ZoneAlarm Security Suite puts Norton and McAfee to shame with its easy-to-use triple-layer firewall, antivirus, antispam, and now antispyware features." http://reviews.cnet.com/4520-3667_7-6375268.html "Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... " JimH" wrote in message ... "JohnH" wrote in message ... On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 01:02:32 GMT, "Doug Kanter" wrote: "JohnH" wrote in message news:a07pq11b9gab0f0764h9qlourn1jvm6trp@4a x.com... On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 00:07:34 GMT, "Doug Kanter" wrote: "Wayne.B" wrote in message news:791pq15flf2609seskcrgjfg9mmdfe0kd2@ 4ax.com... On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 23:04:59 GMT, "Doug Kanter" wrote: Oh please...freeware is not automatically equal to spyware. If you don't trust Tucows, visit www.download.com (cNet) instead. It's somewhat more businesslike, and they really do check things carefully. ====================================== CNET has come in for their share of grief also. I was a downloader par excellence at one time but I've backed off after a few bad experiences. If someone is charging decent money for the software, at least there's an organization to go after if it messes up your computer. I prefer to let others do the beta testing. If you had a real firewall, you wouldn't give a damn about spyware, John. What firewall do you use? I wasn't the one worried about the spyware. I'm the one who suggested the program to be downloaded. I use McAfee, spybot, and adaware. So far I've been pretty lucky. -- John H **** May your Christmas be Spectacular!**** *****...and your New Year even Better!***** McAfee *what*? Does it include a firewall which controls *outbound* nasties? The one that's included with Windows XP only deals with inbound stuff. McAfee Personal Firewall Plus. You specify, for each program, what it can do. You can allow or block inbound or outbound or both. -- John H **** May your Christmas be Spectacular!**** *****...and your New Year even Better!***** A firewall alone will not stop spyware. Recommended programs to install: Spydefense Microsoft Antispyware SpywareBlaster Adaware Spybot The first 3 run in the background using very little resources. You manually scan your system with the last 2 after updating the definitions. I believe all are free. It depends on what you mean by "stop". For years, ZoneAlarm has been able to stop *any* program trying to send data outbound without your permission. It was up to you to determine a course of action when a detection was made. Recently, the program added the ability to detect the actual identity of spyware, in the same way as Adaware and Spybot. Sure. Try running the programs I suggested to see what a good job ZoneAlarm has done for you blocking spyware. I guarantee you that you will be amazed at how much spyware you have on your machine if you rely on ZoneAlarm only. Oops. http://www.snapfiles.com/reviews/Spy...pydefense.html |
Yo - John H (and other photo folks)
On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 08:52:42 -0500, " JimH" wrote:
"JohnH" wrote in message .. . On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 01:02:32 GMT, "Doug Kanter" wrote: "JohnH" wrote in message ... On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 00:07:34 GMT, "Doug Kanter" wrote: "Wayne.B" wrote in message om... On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 23:04:59 GMT, "Doug Kanter" wrote: Oh please...freeware is not automatically equal to spyware. If you don't trust Tucows, visit www.download.com (cNet) instead. It's somewhat more businesslike, and they really do check things carefully. ====================================== CNET has come in for their share of grief also. I was a downloader par excellence at one time but I've backed off after a few bad experiences. If someone is charging decent money for the software, at least there's an organization to go after if it messes up your computer. I prefer to let others do the beta testing. If you had a real firewall, you wouldn't give a damn about spyware, John. What firewall do you use? I wasn't the one worried about the spyware. I'm the one who suggested the program to be downloaded. I use McAfee, spybot, and adaware. So far I've been pretty lucky. -- John H **** May your Christmas be Spectacular!**** *****...and your New Year even Better!***** McAfee *what*? Does it include a firewall which controls *outbound* nasties? The one that's included with Windows XP only deals with inbound stuff. McAfee Personal Firewall Plus. You specify, for each program, what it can do. You can allow or block inbound or outbound or both. -- John H **** May your Christmas be Spectacular!**** *****...and your New Year even Better!***** A firewall alone will not stop spyware. Recommended programs to install: Spydefense Microsoft Antispyware SpywareBlaster Adaware Spybot The first 3 run in the background using very little resources. You manually scan your system with the last 2 after updating the definitions. I believe all are free. You must have missed a post. I'm using the last two in addition to the firewall. The program I forgot to mention, which I think is fantastic, is Mailwasher Pro. It's a spam filter that let's one identify and delete spam while still on the server. It takes a little setup, but allows blacklisting by address, by domain name, and by any filters one desires. It's available at: http://www.firetrust.com/ I very seldom get spam emails on my computer. I've never (knock on wood) had a virus, so I've been very lucky. -- John H **** May your Christmas be Spectacular!**** *****...and your New Year even Better!***** |
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