On Thu, 15 Dec 2005 09:39:22 -0500, KMAN wrote:

"RkyMtnHootOwl" wrote in message
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On Thu, 15 Dec 2005 03:44:57 GMT, Richard Ferguson wrote:

I got an unadvertised deal from Qwest, which is called Qwest basic, for
which I pay $25/mo for 256K DSL. I don't even get an email address for
that price, just a pipe to the internet.

I pay $6/mo to AT&T for webhosting, 6 email addresses, and usenet. I
had been with AT&T when I was on dialup, and I did not see a good reason
to move.

If I did not need webhosting I would probably have gotten a cheap or
free POP3 email account. Google is offering a free POP3 account
nowadays.

I have tried to check out the Gmail, but it is on invitation basis,
beta testing. Is that what you mean by Google and POP3 accts?

I'd send you an invitation, but potentially that would be just one more
idiot on googlegroups.

Here I was being nice to you, and I thought we were having such a nice
conversation, and you have to go get all ****y! Enjoy ****ing by
yourself! OvO

"RkyMtnHootOwl" wrote in message
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On Thu, 15 Dec 2005 09:39:22 -0500, KMAN wrote:

"RkyMtnHootOwl" wrote in message
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On Thu, 15 Dec 2005 03:44:57 GMT, Richard Ferguson wrote:

I got an unadvertised deal from Qwest, which is called Qwest basic, for
which I pay $25/mo for 256K DSL. I don't even get an email address for
that price, just a pipe to the internet.

I pay $6/mo to AT&T for webhosting, 6 email addresses, and usenet. I
had been with AT&T when I was on dialup, and I did not see a good
reason
to move.

If I did not need webhosting I would probably have gotten a cheap or
free POP3 email account. Google is offering a free POP3 account
nowadays.

I have tried to check out the Gmail, but it is on invitation basis,
beta testing. Is that what you mean by Google and POP3 accts?

I'd send you an invitation, but potentially that would be just one more
idiot on googlegroups.

Here I was being nice to you, and I thought we were having such a nice
conversation, and you have to go get all ****y! Enjoy ****ing by
yourself! OvO

[Hint for Tinkernhootowl: in order to ignore someone, you actually have to
ignore them.]

in article , John Fereira at
wrote on 12/15/05 6:42 PM:

"KMAN" wrote in
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"RkyMtnHootOwl" wrote in message
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On Wed, 14 Dec 2005 21:48:10 -0500, KMAN wrote:

"RkyMtnHootOwl" wrote in message
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On Wed, 14 Dec 2005 17:50:55 -0500, KMAN wrote:

"RkyMtnHootOwl" wrote in message
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As an AOL customer (and now an MSN customer?!?!?!) you would know!
vOv

Nope, you must have me comfused with someone else, I never had AOL,
and MSN gets pushed on us by Qwest DSL. All they provide now is
Internet portal, 24/7 support for DSL, and 10 pop3 accts. There are
other DSL providers, but they just rebundle Qwest DSL, since there
is just the one network. I have been considering Comcast that
provides higher speed, but more expensive, and I can only type so
fast,KKKnnnn

The cross thread post mentions web page, and I remembered that I do
have I think, 30 meg available, which I am trying to learn more about.


You said:

"I came
to realize that all I need for ISP is Internet Access. I do not
need the push content of the big ISP like AOL or others."

I thought this indicated that there was a time that you did use AOL,
and then decided not to anymore.

You also said:

"MSN gives me 10 pop3 accounts"

Which fooled me into thinking you were using MSN.

Sorry about the discontinuity, I forgot that causes you much distress!

There's no distress, but as you can probably imagine, in text-based
communication, your constant 2+2=5 style of communication is a
challenge to anyone who functions within logical paramaters.

I do have MSN, Not AOL.

Wow, you really are an idiot!

Use to get all those AOL cds, which were real
enticing just to slip in the CD, and in a few key strokes, you would
be on line and plugged into the incredible world of AOL. I was just
never ready to put on their shade of colored glasses.

I started playing with computers back with CP/M and bulletin boards,
when everything was difficult. You could not just install a printer
and have all the drivers work, so any thing as easy as AOL was
immediately suspect. My first "ISP" was the local bulletin board with
their version of push technology and content. You could find out in
the blink of an eye, of my 1200 baud dialup modem when the next
computer meeting was being held. Boy, that was exciting. Expecially
when they came out with GUI! Those were the days my friend...! OvO

I used to do gopher programming.

I used to do uucp programming. My first email address didn't have an @ sign
in it. Want more? I set up the first tcp-ip network at Hewlett Packards
workstation division.

LOL. Yeah, but you're probably an older dude. So it's less impressive :-D

On Thu, 15 Dec 2005 23:50:24 -0500, KMAN wrote:

in article , John Fereira at
wrote on 12/15/05 6:42 PM:

"KMAN" wrote in
:


"RkyMtnHootOwl" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 14 Dec 2005 21:48:10 -0500, KMAN wrote:

"RkyMtnHootOwl" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 14 Dec 2005 17:50:55 -0500, KMAN wrote:

"RkyMtnHootOwl" wrote in message
...

snip


As an AOL customer (and now an MSN customer?!?!?!) you would know!
vOv

Nope, you must have me comfused with someone else, I never had AOL,
and MSN gets pushed on us by Qwest DSL. All they provide now is
Internet portal, 24/7 support for DSL, and 10 pop3 accts. There are
other DSL providers, but they just rebundle Qwest DSL, since there
is just the one network. I have been considering Comcast that
provides higher speed, but more expensive, and I can only type so
fast,KKKnnnn

The cross thread post mentions web page, and I remembered that I do
have I think, 30 meg available, which I am trying to learn more about.


You said:

"I came
to realize that all I need for ISP is Internet Access. I do not
need the push content of the big ISP like AOL or others."

I thought this indicated that there was a time that you did use AOL,
and then decided not to anymore.

You also said:

"MSN gives me 10 pop3 accounts"

Which fooled me into thinking you were using MSN.

Sorry about the discontinuity, I forgot that causes you much distress!

There's no distress, but as you can probably imagine, in text-based
communication, your constant 2+2=5 style of communication is a
challenge to anyone who functions within logical paramaters.

I do have MSN, Not AOL.

Wow, you really are an idiot!

Use to get all those AOL cds, which were real
enticing just to slip in the CD, and in a few key strokes, you would
be on line and plugged into the incredible world of AOL. I was just
never ready to put on their shade of colored glasses.

I started playing with computers back with CP/M and bulletin boards,
when everything was difficult. You could not just install a printer
and have all the drivers work, so any thing as easy as AOL was
immediately suspect. My first "ISP" was the local bulletin board with
their version of push technology and content. You could find out in
the blink of an eye, of my 1200 baud dialup modem when the next
computer meeting was being held. Boy, that was exciting. Expecially
when they came out with GUI! Those were the days my friend...! OvO

I used to do gopher programming.

I used to do uucp programming. My first email address didn't have an @ sign
in it. Want more? I set up the first tcp-ip network at Hewlett Packards
workstation division.

LOL. Yeah, but you're probably an older dude. So it's less impressive :-D

Were we suppose to be impressed with "Gopher"? I did not know you were
from Minnesota!

I did not sense that JF was trying to impress anyone, just stating
fact relating to longevity of computing experience.

If that is the subject, my first experience with a computer came in
'68 when at the School of Mines, working on an IBM system that had a
whopping 4 K of ram, used the old punch cards, and filled 20x20 room.
I did not have a very happy time with that computer! It was running
all the time, and sounded like a Chinese laundry! And you were suppose
to think in there! Whatever you do, please don't drop the stack of
cards, we all did! So much for running the program! Even when the
program ran, all it did was punch out more cards! OvO

in article , RkyMtnHootOwl at
wrote on 12/16/05 1:20 AM:

On Thu, 15 Dec 2005 23:50:24 -0500, KMAN wrote:

in article , John Fereira at
wrote on 12/15/05 6:42 PM:

"KMAN" wrote in
:


"RkyMtnHootOwl" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 14 Dec 2005 21:48:10 -0500, KMAN wrote:

"RkyMtnHootOwl" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 14 Dec 2005 17:50:55 -0500, KMAN wrote:

"RkyMtnHootOwl" wrote in message
...

snip


As an AOL customer (and now an MSN customer?!?!?!) you would know!
vOv

Nope, you must have me comfused with someone else, I never had AOL,
and MSN gets pushed on us by Qwest DSL. All they provide now is
Internet portal, 24/7 support for DSL, and 10 pop3 accts. There are
other DSL providers, but they just rebundle Qwest DSL, since there
is just the one network. I have been considering Comcast that
provides higher speed, but more expensive, and I can only type so
fast,KKKnnnn

The cross thread post mentions web page, and I remembered that I do
have I think, 30 meg available, which I am trying to learn more about.


You said:

"I came
to realize that all I need for ISP is Internet Access. I do not
need the push content of the big ISP like AOL or others."

I thought this indicated that there was a time that you did use AOL,
and then decided not to anymore.

You also said:

"MSN gives me 10 pop3 accounts"

Which fooled me into thinking you were using MSN.

Sorry about the discontinuity, I forgot that causes you much distress!

There's no distress, but as you can probably imagine, in text-based
communication, your constant 2+2=5 style of communication is a
challenge to anyone who functions within logical paramaters.

I do have MSN, Not AOL.

Wow, you really are an idiot!

Use to get all those AOL cds, which were real
enticing just to slip in the CD, and in a few key strokes, you would
be on line and plugged into the incredible world of AOL. I was just
never ready to put on their shade of colored glasses.

I started playing with computers back with CP/M and bulletin boards,
when everything was difficult. You could not just install a printer
and have all the drivers work, so any thing as easy as AOL was
immediately suspect. My first "ISP" was the local bulletin board with
their version of push technology and content. You could find out in
the blink of an eye, of my 1200 baud dialup modem when the next
computer meeting was being held. Boy, that was exciting. Expecially
when they came out with GUI! Those were the days my friend...! OvO

I used to do gopher programming.

I used to do uucp programming. My first email address didn't have an @ sign
in it. Want more? I set up the first tcp-ip network at Hewlett Packards
workstation division.

LOL. Yeah, but you're probably an older dude. So it's less impressive :-D

Were we suppose to be impressed with "Gopher"?

If you ever did gopher programming you would certainly not be impressed, but
you would likely chuckle.

I did not know you were
from Minnesota!

You are much more successful as a scumbag than a humorist.

I did not sense that JF was trying to impress anyone, just stating
fact relating to longevity of computing experience.

I am joking around with him. As indicated by the relevant textual signs.
These include "LOL" and ":-D"

Whether or not he thinks it funny is one thing, but the humorous intent is
not in question, nor will anyone but Tinkernhootowl think that I was making
a serious criticism of JF.

On Fri, 16 Dec 2005 08:50:56 -0500, KMAN wrote:

in article , RkyMtnHootOwl at
wrote on 12/16/05 1:20 AM:

On Thu, 15 Dec 2005 23:50:24 -0500, KMAN wrote:

in article , John Fereira at
wrote on 12/15/05 6:42 PM:

snip

LOL. Yeah, but you're probably an older dude. So it's less impressive :-D

Were we suppose to be impressed with "Gopher"?

If you ever did gopher programming you would certainly not be impressed, but
you would likely chuckle.

I did not know you were
from Minnesota!

You are much more successful as a scumbag than a humorist.

I did not sense that JF was trying to impress anyone, just stating
fact relating to longevity of computing experience.

I am joking around with him. As indicated by the relevant textual signs.
These include "LOL" and ":-D"

Is a wink, and relevant textual sign?

Whether or not he thinks it funny is one thing, but the humorous intent is
not in question, nor will anyone but Tinkernhootowl think that I was making
a serious criticism of JF.

No, I thought you were being a scumbag, and smearing older guys. Such
enuendo! You ought to be ashamed of yourself, humiliated! OvO

"RkyMtnHootOwl" wrote in message
ups.com...
On Fri, 16 Dec 2005 08:50:56 -0500, KMAN wrote:

in article , RkyMtnHootOwl at
wrote on 12/16/05 1:20 AM:

On Thu, 15 Dec 2005 23:50:24 -0500, KMAN wrote:

in article , John Fereira at
wrote on 12/15/05 6:42 PM:

snip

LOL. Yeah, but you're probably an older dude. So it's less impressive
:-D

Were we suppose to be impressed with "Gopher"?

If you ever did gopher programming you would certainly not be impressed,
but
you would likely chuckle.

I did not know you were
from Minnesota!

You are much more successful as a scumbag than a humorist.

I did not sense that JF was trying to impress anyone, just stating
fact relating to longevity of computing experience.

I am joking around with him. As indicated by the relevant textual signs.
These include "LOL" and ":-D"

Is a wink, and relevant textual sign?

Whether or not he thinks it funny is one thing, but the humorous intent
is
not in question, nor will anyone but Tinkernhootowl think that I was
making
a serious criticism of JF.

No, I thought you were being a scumbag, and smearing older guys. Such
enuendo! You ought to be ashamed of yourself, humiliated! OvO

Unlike you, I was willing to clarify my statement. vOv

"John Fereira" wrote in message
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KMAN wrote in
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in article , RkyMtnHootOwl at
wrote on 12/16/05 1:20 AM:

On Thu, 15 Dec 2005 23:50:24 -0500, KMAN wrote:

in article , John Fereira
at wrote on 12/15/05 6:42 PM:

"KMAN" wrote in
:


"RkyMtnHootOwl" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 14 Dec 2005 21:48:10 -0500, KMAN wrote:

"RkyMtnHootOwl" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 14 Dec 2005 17:50:55 -0500, KMAN wrote:

"RkyMtnHootOwl" wrote in
message ...

snip


As an AOL customer (and now an MSN customer?!?!?!) you would
know! vOv

Nope, you must have me comfused with someone else, I never had
AOL, and MSN gets pushed on us by Qwest DSL. All they provide
now is Internet portal, 24/7 support for DSL, and 10 pop3 accts.
There are other DSL providers, but they just rebundle Qwest DSL,
since there is just the one network. I have been considering
Comcast that provides higher speed, but more expensive, and I
can only type so fast,KKKnnnn

The cross thread post mentions web page, and I remembered that I
do have I think, 30 meg available, which I am trying to learn more
about.


You said:

"I came
to realize that all I need for ISP is Internet Access. I do not
need the push content of the big ISP like AOL or others."

I thought this indicated that there was a time that you did use
AOL, and then decided not to anymore.

You also said:

"MSN gives me 10 pop3 accounts"

Which fooled me into thinking you were using MSN.

Sorry about the discontinuity, I forgot that causes you much
distress!

There's no distress, but as you can probably imagine, in text-based
communication, your constant 2+2=5 style of communication is a
challenge to anyone who functions within logical paramaters.

I do have MSN, Not AOL.

Wow, you really are an idiot!

Use to get all those AOL cds, which were real
enticing just to slip in the CD, and in a few key strokes, you
would be on line and plugged into the incredible world of AOL. I
was just never ready to put on their shade of colored glasses.

I started playing with computers back with CP/M and bulletin
boards, when everything was difficult. You could not just install
a printer and have all the drivers work, so any thing as easy as
AOL was immediately suspect. My first "ISP" was the local bulletin
board with their version of push technology and content. You could
find out in the blink of an eye, of my 1200 baud dialup modem when
the next computer meeting was being held. Boy, that was exciting.
Expecially when they came out with GUI! Those were the days my
friend...! OvO

I used to do gopher programming.

I used to do uucp programming. My first email address didn't have
an @ sign in it. Want more? I set up the first tcp-ip network at
Hewlett Packards workstation division.

LOL. Yeah, but you're probably an older dude. So it's less impressive
:-D

Of course it's impressive. Didn't your momma teach you to respect your
elders?

Were we suppose to be impressed with "Gopher"?

If you ever did gopher programming you would certainly not be
impressed, but you would likely chuckle.

For the past year or so I've been redesigning a document delivery and
archival service for site a U.S. federal agency that began as a gopher
server. That old gopher server was implemented with just a handful of
files. The new site has 150 java classes, over 300 java server pages,
about
90 xml files, and provides access to about 1800 individual titles. Last
week I added 2400 individual issues from scanned documents going back to
1919.


I did not know you were from Minnesota!

You are much more successful as a scumbag than a humorist.

I did not sense that JF was trying to impress anyone, just stating
fact relating to longevity of computing experience.

I am joking around with him. As indicated by the relevant textual
signs. These include "LOL" and ":-D"

Whether or not he thinks it funny is one thing, but the humorous intent
is not in question, nor will anyone but Tinkernhootowl think that I was
making a serious criticism of JF.

Your comment was taken as it was intended. However, it appears to me that
*both* of you have buttons that when barely tickled result in a strong
reaction. It's perfectly okay for one of you to post something without
the
other reacting to it.

Says you! Asshole!*












































* again, kidding

On Fri, 16 Dec 2005 22:09:14 -0500, KMAN wrote:

"John Fereira" wrote in message
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KMAN wrote in
:

in article , RkyMtnHootOwl at
wrote on 12/16/05 1:20 AM:

snip

I am joking around with him. As indicated by the relevant textual
signs. These include "LOL" and ":-D"

Whether or not he thinks it funny is one thing, but the humorous intent
is not in question, nor will anyone but Tinkernhootowl think that I was
making a serious criticism of JF.

Your comment was taken as it was intended. However, it appears to me that
*both* of you have buttons that when barely tickled result in a strong
reaction. It's perfectly okay for one of you to post something without
the
other reacting to it.

Says you! Asshole!*

snip
* again, kidding

I see you have a sticky keyboard also KKK, hope you don't mind me
doing a little snip'n, to make things easier to figure out!

John F, don't mind KKKnnnnKlown, his keyboard gets stuck, and he has
called me an "a-hole" so many times, that it just types the word
almost by itself!

KKKnnnnklown has dream pictures of himself as a well educated
individual, but he has very limited vocabulary, and no one ever told
him what the word means! He thinks it is a term of endearment! I just
let him continue in his dream state, since waking up may be to big a
shock for him! Actually he likes "a..holes", that is why he and I get
along so well! Ov-

in article , RkyMtnHootOwl at
wrote on 12/17/05 12:27 AM:

On Fri, 16 Dec 2005 22:09:14 -0500, KMAN wrote:

"John Fereira" wrote in message
.. .
KMAN wrote in
:

in article , RkyMtnHootOwl at
wrote on 12/16/05 1:20 AM:

snip

I am joking around with him. As indicated by the relevant textual
signs. These include "LOL" and ":-D"

Whether or not he thinks it funny is one thing, but the humorous intent
is not in question, nor will anyone but Tinkernhootowl think that I was
making a serious criticism of JF.

Your comment was taken as it was intended. However, it appears to me that
*both* of you have buttons that when barely tickled result in a strong
reaction. It's perfectly okay for one of you to post something without
the
other reacting to it.

Says you! Asshole!*

snip
* again, kidding

I see

snip

I see you didn't consider John's advice!