"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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NOYB wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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NOYB wrote:

If you follow the Bible, you know that most religions believe that
there were historical times when the Earth was beset by natural
disasters brought on by God's wrath at mans' sins.

But there is a difference between believing that God should punish the
sinners, and believing that man ought to do it for him.

The Muslim fundies believe they are doing Allah's work by bringing
death and destruction upon the infidels.

The Christian fundies believe that it is up to God Himself to bring the
death and destruction.

There's a big difference in those two idealogies.
Ahh.

The Roman Christian slaughter of the Jews was an exception
The Crusades were just an exception
The European Christian slaughter of Central Americans was an exception
The American Christian hanging of "witches" was an exception
The Nazi Christian slaughter of the Jews was an exception
The Serbian Christian slaughter of Muslims was an exception


Other than these examples, and dozens of others, the Christians believe
it is up to God himself to bring death and destruction.


You guys are stating that "Big Time Christians" favor such actions today.
That's absurd.




Is it?

I don't think so. I think the fundie Christians in this country would like
nothing better than to "convert" or eliminate all the non-Christians who
live here, or to so "Christianize" society that non-Christians will leave
of their own accord.

Note that I am not including "all" Christians in this category.

I don't want to convert anybody. But they should at least assimilate to our
customs if they want to live in a country whose laws and customs are based
on Judeo-Christian principles.

On Tue, 13 Dec 2005 14:22:12 GMT, "Doug Kanter" wrote:


"John H." wrote in message
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On Mon, 12 Dec 2005 17:33:44 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:

Sorta reminds me of what Big Time Christians say about how non-believers
will be subjected to some sort of horrible fate at some point in the
future.
Armageddon or whatever. Too bad if you happen to be an excellent person,
but
a Buddhist.


Doug, what is a 'Big Time Christian'? I know of none who say that.
--
John Herring

They're the ones with the biggest mouths, John. And, the ones who are so
eager to "share" their way of life with people who didn't ask for that
"favor".


And you have a quote, somewhere, of one of these 'big mouths' saying those who don't believe in his
'religion' are going to some horrible fate?

If so, I doubt if he speaks for the majority of Christians. Are there extremists? Sure, just like
there are extremist Muslims and Democrats.
--
John Herring

Hope your Christmas is Spectacular,
and your New Year even Better!

"NOYB" wrote in message
nk.net...


I don't want to convert anybody. But they should at least assimilate to
our customs if they want to live in a country whose laws and customs are
based on Judeo-Christian principles.


If you were required to address that statement toward people of specific
religions, which would those be?

JohnH,
Harry is of Russian heritage. Some of the worst genocide and mass
executions have been committed by Russians. Hence, Harry is guilty of
genocide.

It is very easy to play this game.



"John H." wrote in message
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On Tue, 13 Dec 2005 14:22:12 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:


"John H." wrote in message
. ..
On Mon, 12 Dec 2005 17:33:44 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:

Sorta reminds me of what Big Time Christians say about how non-believers
will be subjected to some sort of horrible fate at some point in the
future.
Armageddon or whatever. Too bad if you happen to be an excellent person,
but
a Buddhist.


Doug, what is a 'Big Time Christian'? I know of none who say that.
--
John Herring

They're the ones with the biggest mouths, John. And, the ones who are so
eager to "share" their way of life with people who didn't ask for that
"favor".


And you have a quote, somewhere, of one of these 'big mouths' saying those
who don't believe in his
'religion' are going to some horrible fate?

If so, I doubt if he speaks for the majority of Christians. Are there
extremists? Sure, just like
there are extremist Muslims and Democrats.
--
John Herring

Hope your Christmas is Spectacular,
and your New Year even Better!

JohnH,
Harry is of Russian heritage. Some of the worst genocide and mass
executions have been committed by Russians. Hence, Harry is guilty of
genocide.

It is very easy to play this game.



"John H." wrote in message
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On Tue, 13 Dec 2005 14:22:12 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:


"John H." wrote in message
. ..
On Mon, 12 Dec 2005 17:33:44 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:

Sorta reminds me of what Big Time Christians say about how non-believers
will be subjected to some sort of horrible fate at some point in the
future.
Armageddon or whatever. Too bad if you happen to be an excellent person,
but
a Buddhist.


Doug, what is a 'Big Time Christian'? I know of none who say that.
--
John Herring

They're the ones with the biggest mouths, John. And, the ones who are so
eager to "share" their way of life with people who didn't ask for that
"favor".


And you have a quote, somewhere, of one of these 'big mouths' saying those
who don't believe in his
'religion' are going to some horrible fate?

If so, I doubt if he speaks for the majority of Christians. Are there
extremists? Sure, just like
there are extremist Muslims and Democrats.
--
John Herring

Hope your Christmas is Spectacular,
and your New Year even Better!

"John H." wrote in message
...
On Tue, 13 Dec 2005 14:22:12 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:


"John H." wrote in message
. ..
On Mon, 12 Dec 2005 17:33:44 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:

Sorta reminds me of what Big Time Christians say about how non-believers
will be subjected to some sort of horrible fate at some point in the
future.
Armageddon or whatever. Too bad if you happen to be an excellent person,
but
a Buddhist.


Doug, what is a 'Big Time Christian'? I know of none who say that.
--
John Herring

They're the ones with the biggest mouths, John. And, the ones who are so
eager to "share" their way of life with people who didn't ask for that
"favor".


And you have a quote, somewhere, of one of these 'big mouths' saying those
who don't believe in his
'religion' are going to some horrible fate?

If so, I doubt if he speaks for the majority of Christians. Are there
extremists? Sure, just like
there are extremist Muslims and Democrats.
--
John Herring

Two acquaintances whose minds were polluted by the same church in Kentucky.
One from Chicago. And, an entire family of eight from here. All talk about
Armegeddon as if it is real, and well deserved by non-believers. Buddhist?
Too bad. Jew? Oh well.

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
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"NOYB" wrote in message
nk.net...


I don't want to convert anybody. But they should at least assimilate to
our customs if they want to live in a country whose laws and customs are
based on Judeo-Christian principles.


If you were required to address that statement toward people of specific
religions, which would those be?

No specific religion. But I'd primarily address it towards the group of
folks who work so diligently to change the Pledge of Allegiance, change the
words on our currency, and see that the words "Merry Christmas" aren't
spoken out of the mouths of retailers at Christmas time.

On Tue, 13 Dec 2005 11:18:29 -0500, "Lord Reginald Smithers" The fastest and most accurate Gun in
the World wrote:

JohnH,
Harry is of Russian heritage. Some of the worst genocide and mass
executions have been committed by Russians. Hence, Harry is guilty of
genocide.

It is very easy to play this game.



What could *possibly* make you believe Harry is of Russian heritage?
--
John Herring

Hope your Christmas is Spectacular,
and your New Year even Better!

On Tue, 13 Dec 2005 16:18:55 GMT, "Doug Kanter" wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
.. .
On Tue, 13 Dec 2005 14:22:12 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:


"John H." wrote in message
...
On Mon, 12 Dec 2005 17:33:44 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:

Sorta reminds me of what Big Time Christians say about how non-believers
will be subjected to some sort of horrible fate at some point in the
future.
Armageddon or whatever. Too bad if you happen to be an excellent person,
but
a Buddhist.


Doug, what is a 'Big Time Christian'? I know of none who say that.
--
John Herring

They're the ones with the biggest mouths, John. And, the ones who are so
eager to "share" their way of life with people who didn't ask for that
"favor".


And you have a quote, somewhere, of one of these 'big mouths' saying those
who don't believe in his
'religion' are going to some horrible fate?

If so, I doubt if he speaks for the majority of Christians. Are there
extremists? Sure, just like
there are extremist Muslims and Democrats.
--
John Herring

Two acquaintances whose minds were polluted by the same church in Kentucky.
One from Chicago. And, an entire family of eight from here. All talk about
Armegeddon as if it is real, and well deserved by non-believers. Buddhist?
Too bad. Jew? Oh well.


Are those acquaintances 'Big Time Christians'? I know some of the Christian denominations are
believers in the 'Armageddon' (a final battle between the forces of good and evil), but I've not
heard any state that 'non-believers' are going to some horrible fate thereafter.

The concept of Armageddon, given the amount of nuclear weapons existent, doesn't seem so far
fetched. There may be disagreement over who the good and bad guys are. The way things are shaping
up, it may be extremist Muslims versus everyone else.
--
John Herring

Hope your Christmas is Spectacular,
and your New Year even Better!

"NOYB" wrote in message
nk.net...

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
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"NOYB" wrote in message
nk.net...


I don't want to convert anybody. But they should at least assimilate to
our customs if they want to live in a country whose laws and customs are
based on Judeo-Christian principles.


If you were required to address that statement toward people of specific
religions, which would those be?

No specific religion. But I'd primarily address it towards the group of
folks who work so diligently to change the Pledge of Allegiance, change
the words on our currency, and see that the words "Merry Christmas" aren't
spoken out of the mouths of retailers at Christmas time.

No te creo, señor.