Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:
On Wed, 14 Dec 2005 12:33:45 -0500, "Wm Shakespeare Smithers" The
WordSmith wrote:


Do you use it in your gas engines or strictly the diesels due to the
experience of the mechanic?


I use it in my lawn tractor (25 hp Gravely), but I don't use it in my
'70 Corvette. I do use it in my Kawasaki 15 Kw diesel generator, my
truck and the Cub that I still own - I used it in the Super M I
restored with the exception of the gear case only because of the
volume.


The reason I am asking is most people will keep their diesel engines till
the end of the earth, and they will commonly be rebuilt, so the mechanic can
see if the additive caused any problems.


True.


Gas engines on the other hand are not kept as long, and it is hard to tell
if the additive helped or hurt the engine.

Even with your positive experience, unless I see some scientific studies, I
am going to hope the oil manufactures are providing the best product
available with the best combination of additives. I would think they have
checked out Lucas to see if it improved the performance of their oil.


I don't want to sound all weirdo meta-physical here, but I believe in
the stuff and it seems to work for me. I've heard stories about
people who aren't as sold and their experiences are different.

As I said to Bassy, I know guys who use Marvel Mystery Oil at 200:1
and have for years - no problems on high mileage engines - swear by
it. I use it in my Corvette at 100:1 for anti-knock. I've been told
it won't work for anti-knock and that is a myth/urban legend. I don't
have a anti-knock problem with the car so explain that.

As strange as this sounds, and strictly in my opinion, if you have
faith in something, it will work. I've been told that my 7.3 diesel
will not give me the kind of mileage I claim - but it does and I can
independently confirm that from a non-impeachable source. I have
faith in my truck.

I'll give you another example. The '92 Ford Escort I bought for
around town got 28.585 mpg the first time I checked the mileage. The
second time it got 27.678 mpg. It has never varied between those two
figures. Ever. I have complete and total faith that it will continue
that way for ever and it will.

The booing and hssing may now commence - go ahead - laugh, I"m a big
guy, I can take it. :)

Later,

Tom


No comment; just want a copy of this on my system:-)

Ahh the Ficht 2 strokers ya gotta luv 'em:-)

K

déjà vu all over again
 

Paul,

I really don't keep up with football at all. I think that must make me
anti-American, but I just don't keep up with it. I know Michigan
historically has had a good football team, and being in the top 20, really
is a good team, even if they have a 7 - 4 record.

My comment about "a good football team" was really meant to be a "dig"
without any factual basis to it. Then again, my son's college might have
the worst football team ever to put on a helmet, so I might be biased. If
you look back over the years, Columbia has always had one of the worst
football teams on record, so at least they are consistent.




"P. Fritz" wrote in message
...
A good football team is 7-4?



"Wm Shakespeare Smithers" The WordSmith wrote in message
...
JimH,

You sound like you are jealous of a good football team. ; )

Remember the movie the Big Chill?


" JimH" wrote in message
...

"Wm Shakespeare Smithers" The WordSmith wrote in message
. ..
Tom,

You have peaked my interest enough that I am going to see what
additional
data I can find. I have two kids in college, one at Columbia another
Michigan, so I am looking at a way to keep my two cars, till I pay
off
these
college loans. I think I should have them paid by 2046.

Thanks for your input.



Please tell me it is not that dreaded school in Ann Arbor........you
know,
the one with the silly looking football helmets.

déjà vu all over again
 

Paul,
That must suck to actually lose to the Columbia Lions. I am sure your HS
friends must have been terrible embarrassed.


"P. Fritz" wrote in message
...
Duquesne is a Pa. school......several of by H.S. classmates went there.
And here I thought you were talking about the pathetic Lions of NFL
non-fame


"Wm Shakespeare Smithers" The WordSmith wrote in message
...
By the way, in case you didn't know the Lions play in one of the
toughest
conferences and except for some of the "Football Factories", they had
an
undefeated season. ; )

Sat 09/17/05 Fordham Bronx, N.Y. W, 23-17
Sat 09/24/05 DUQUESNE Lawrence A. Wien Stadium W, 23-13
Sat 10/01/05 Princeton* Princeton, N.J. L, 43-3
Sat 10/08/05 Lafayette Easton, Pa. Lafayette TV Network L, 14-7
Sat 10/15/05 PENN* (H) Lawrence A. Wien Stadium L, 16-44
Sat 10/22/05 Dartmouth* Hanover, N.H. YES Network L, 17-6
Sat 10/29/05 YALE* Lawrence A. Wien Stadium L, 37-3
Sat 11/05/05 HARVARD* Lawrence A. Wien Stadium L, 55-7
Sat 11/12/05 Cornell* Ithaca, N.Y. L, 45-7
Sat 11/19/05 BROWN* Lawrence A. Wien Stadium YES Network L, 55-21


This has been their best year in over 50 yrs. They trounced Fordham
and
Duquesne (whoever the hell they are)



" JimH" wrote in message
...

"Wm Shakespeare Smithers" The WordSmith wrote in message
...
JimH,

You sound like you are jealous of a good football team. ; )


Jealous? How funny! Remind me again..........who won this year's
*big*
game and when was the last National Championship that team with the
ugly
football helmet won?



Remember the movie the Big Chill?


Yep.....and they also made fun of the ugly football helmet.

But they were also all potheads. Is that the connection you are
trying
to make? ;-)




" JimH" wrote in message
...

"Wm Shakespeare Smithers" The WordSmith wrote in message
. ..
Tom,

You have peaked my interest enough that I am going to see what
additional
data I can find. I have two kids in college, one at Columbia
another
Michigan, so I am looking at a way to keep my two cars, till I pay
off
these
college loans. I think I should have them paid by 2046.

Thanks for your input.



Please tell me it is not that dreaded school in Ann Arbor........you
know, the one with the silly looking football helmets.

 

Karen,
Do you have any knowledge of these "miracle additives"?


"K Smith" wrote in message
...
Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:
On Wed, 14 Dec 2005 12:33:45 -0500, "Wm Shakespeare Smithers" The
WordSmith wrote:


Do you use it in your gas engines or strictly the diesels due to the
experience of the mechanic?


I use it in my lawn tractor (25 hp Gravely), but I don't use it in my
'70 Corvette. I do use it in my Kawasaki 15 Kw diesel generator, my
truck and the Cub that I still own - I used it in the Super M I
restored with the exception of the gear case only because of the
volume.


The reason I am asking is most people will keep their diesel engines till
the end of the earth, and they will commonly be rebuilt, so the mechanic
can see if the additive caused any problems.


True.


Gas engines on the other hand are not kept as long, and it is hard to
tell if the additive helped or hurt the engine.

Even with your positive experience, unless I see some scientific studies,
I am going to hope the oil manufactures are providing the best product
available with the best combination of additives. I would think they
have checked out Lucas to see if it improved the performance of their
oil.


I don't want to sound all weirdo meta-physical here, but I believe in
the stuff and it seems to work for me. I've heard stories about
people who aren't as sold and their experiences are different. As I said
to Bassy, I know guys who use Marvel Mystery Oil at 200:1
and have for years - no problems on high mileage engines - swear by
it. I use it in my Corvette at 100:1 for anti-knock. I've been told
it won't work for anti-knock and that is a myth/urban legend. I don't
have a anti-knock problem with the car so explain that.

As strange as this sounds, and strictly in my opinion, if you have
faith in something, it will work. I've been told that my 7.3 diesel
will not give me the kind of mileage I claim - but it does and I can
independently confirm that from a non-impeachable source. I have
faith in my truck. I'll give you another example. The '92 Ford Escort I
bought for
around town got 28.585 mpg the first time I checked the mileage. The
second time it got 27.678 mpg. It has never varied between those two
figures. Ever. I have complete and total faith that it will continue
that way for ever and it will.

The booing and hssing may now commence - go ahead - laugh, I"m a big
guy, I can take it. :)

Later,

Tom


No comment; just want a copy of this on my system:-)

Ahh the Ficht 2 strokers ya gotta luv 'em:-)

K

déjà vu all over again
 

Living here.......I get sick of always hearing about MICHeeeeeeeeeeeeGAN

"Wm Shakespeare Smithers" The WordSmith wrote in message
...
Paul,

I really don't keep up with football at all. I think that must make me
anti-American, but I just don't keep up with it. I know Michigan
historically has had a good football team, and being in the top 20, really
is a good team, even if they have a 7 - 4 record.

My comment about "a good football team" was really meant to be a "dig"
without any factual basis to it. Then again, my son's college might have
the worst football team ever to put on a helmet, so I might be biased. If
you look back over the years, Columbia has always had one of the worst
football teams on record, so at least they are consistent.




"P. Fritz" wrote in message
...
A good football team is 7-4?



"Wm Shakespeare Smithers" The WordSmith wrote in message
...
JimH,

You sound like you are jealous of a good football team. ; )

Remember the movie the Big Chill?


" JimH" wrote in message
...

"Wm Shakespeare Smithers" The WordSmith wrote in message
. ..
Tom,

You have peaked my interest enough that I am going to see what
additional
data I can find. I have two kids in college, one at Columbia
another
Michigan, so I am looking at a way to keep my two cars, till I pay
off
these
college loans. I think I should have them paid by 2046.

Thanks for your input.



Please tell me it is not that dreaded school in Ann Arbor........you
know,
the one with the silly looking football helmets.

déjà vu all over again
 

If not, they should be.

"Wm Shakespeare Smithers" The WordSmith wrote in message
...
Paul,
That must suck to actually lose to the Columbia Lions. I am sure your HS
friends must have been terrible embarrassed.


"P. Fritz" wrote in message
...
Duquesne is a Pa. school......several of by H.S. classmates went there.
And here I thought you were talking about the pathetic Lions of NFL
non-fame


"Wm Shakespeare Smithers" The WordSmith wrote in message
...
By the way, in case you didn't know the Lions play in one of the
toughest
conferences and except for some of the "Football Factories", they had
an
undefeated season. ; )

Sat 09/17/05 Fordham Bronx, N.Y. W, 23-17
Sat 09/24/05 DUQUESNE Lawrence A. Wien Stadium W, 23-13
Sat 10/01/05 Princeton* Princeton, N.J. L, 43-3
Sat 10/08/05 Lafayette Easton, Pa. Lafayette TV Network L, 14-7
Sat 10/15/05 PENN* (H) Lawrence A. Wien Stadium L, 16-44
Sat 10/22/05 Dartmouth* Hanover, N.H. YES Network L, 17-6
Sat 10/29/05 YALE* Lawrence A. Wien Stadium L, 37-3
Sat 11/05/05 HARVARD* Lawrence A. Wien Stadium L, 55-7
Sat 11/12/05 Cornell* Ithaca, N.Y. L, 45-7
Sat 11/19/05 BROWN* Lawrence A. Wien Stadium YES Network L,
55-21


This has been their best year in over 50 yrs. They trounced Fordham
and
Duquesne (whoever the hell they are)



" JimH" wrote in message
...

"Wm Shakespeare Smithers" The WordSmith wrote in message
...
JimH,

You sound like you are jealous of a good football team. ; )


Jealous? How funny! Remind me again..........who won this year's
*big*
game and when was the last National Championship that team with the
ugly
football helmet won?



Remember the movie the Big Chill?


Yep.....and they also made fun of the ugly football helmet.

But they were also all potheads. Is that the connection you are
trying
to make? ;-)




" JimH" wrote in message
...

"Wm Shakespeare Smithers" The WordSmith wrote in message
. ..
Tom,

You have peaked my interest enough that I am going to see what
additional
data I can find. I have two kids in college, one at Columbia
another
Michigan, so I am looking at a way to keep my two cars, till I
pay
off
these
college loans. I think I should have them paid by 2046.

Thanks for your input.



Please tell me it is not that dreaded school in Ann
Arbor........you
know, the one with the silly looking football helmets.