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NOYB December 5th 05 05:54 PM

OT--9 point jump in number of Americans who now believe US is winning the War on Terror.
 

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
NOYB wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
NOYB wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
NOYB wrote:
What about the Iraqis who want us out and are shooting at and
otherwise creating mayhem for US troops?
If they're solely targeting US troops, then call them the
"resistance" movement...or "freedom fighters" if that pleases you
more. But the majority of the indiscriminate bombings and killings
over there are being conducted by terrorists...most of whom are
foreign-born.
B.S. to the "foreign-born." Most of them are Iraqis. Prove otherwise,
without citing anyone in anyway connected to the lying Bush
misadministration, or anyone who reports to it.
Who would you consider a reputable source to substantiate my claim?


By adding in the words "anyone who reports to it (the Bush
administration)", you have just ruled out every member of our armed
forces.

So the only other people with eyes and ears on the ground in Iraq are
the newly elected Iraqi officials. Would you like to hear Prime
Minister al-Jafari's take on the question about who's doing the
killing?
- - -


There's no reason to believe Bush, his administration, or anyone who
reports to it or is beholden to it.


So then:

"Who would you consider a reputable source to substantiate my claim?"


You puzzle it out, and come back when you have some legitimate data.


Sorry, I don't play that game. Tell who you'd trust, and I'll find the
reference data to support my statement.




NOYB December 5th 05 05:55 PM

OT--9 point jump in number of Americans who now believe US is winning the War on Terror.
 

"Lord Reginald Smithers" Ask me about my driveway leading up to my manor.
wrote in message ...
NYOB,
Have you figured it out yet? Anyone you come up with to substantiate your
claim is not legitimate. If they were legitimate, they would support
Harry's claim.


Harry cannot find anybody to support his claim.



thunder December 5th 05 06:05 PM

OT--9 point jump in number of Americans who now believe US is winning the War on Terror.
 
On Mon, 05 Dec 2005 11:50:43 -0500, John H. wrote:

On Mon, 05 Dec 2005 14:21:30 GMT, "NOYB" wrote:


"Tamaroak" wrote in message
...
And you think the situation in Iraq is improving?


Absolutely.


Ditto. And, anyone who would open their eyes to something other than NBC,
CNN, et al, would also know so.


That's great news, John. Seeing your news sources are so much better than
ours, perhaps you wouldn't mind answering a few questions for the rest of
us. What's the current status on electricity? Sewage? Water? What's
the current unemployment rate in Iraq? What percentage of the schools are
open? What about hospitals?

Now that the situation is improving, I guess we can stop spending money
with the Lincoln Group.

http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald...n/13333175.htm


John H. December 5th 05 06:08 PM

OT--9 point jump in number of Americans who now believe US is winning the War on Terror.
 
On Mon, 5 Dec 2005 09:30:24 -0500, "Jim Carter" wrote:


"NOYB" wrote in message
nk.net...
When you say "we" will win, you mean, of course, you, moveon.org, the
Democratic party, and the terrorists who are seeking to oust us from Iraq.
That's pretty strange company that you keep.

NOYB, if another county attacked the USA, and you decided to fight for the
freedom of your country, would you be called a "terrorist" or a "freedom
fighter"?

Jim C.


If the people of the country had chosen a government, and the government was being attacked, I would
call the attackers insurgents or terrorists.

--
John H

MERRY CHRISTMAS!

Wishing you Peace, Fellowship, and Good Humor as we celebrate the birth of OUR Lord, Jesus Christ on the Christmas Holy Day.

John H. December 5th 05 06:10 PM

OT--9 point jump in number of Americans who now believe US is winning the War on Terror.
 
On Mon, 05 Dec 2005 10:03:24 -0500, Harry Krause wrote:

NOYB wrote:
"Jim Carter" wrote in message
...
"NOYB" wrote in message
k.net...
When you say "we" will win, you mean, of course, you, moveon.org, the
Democratic party, and the terrorists who are seeking to oust us from
Iraq.
That's pretty strange company that you keep.
NOYB, if another county attacked the USA, and you decided to fight for
the
freedom of your country, would you be called a "terrorist" or a "freedom
fighter"?


If another country attacked Canada, and Harry decided to fight for the
freedom of Canadians by blowing up Canadian infrastructure, terrorizing the
Canadian populace, and indescriminately killing the invading forces and
Candian citizens alike, then Harry would be called a "terrorist".

It's those foreign-born non-Iraqis that I'm referring to as terrorists.





What about the Iraqis who want us out and are shooting at and otherwise
creating mayhem for US troops?


Are they supporting the government of Iraq, Harold?

--
John H

MERRY CHRISTMAS!

Wishing you Peace, Fellowship, and Good Humor as we celebrate the birth of OUR Lord, Jesus Christ on the Christmas Holy Day.

John H. December 5th 05 06:12 PM

OT--9 point jump in number of Americans who now believe US is winning the War on Terror.
 
On Mon, 5 Dec 2005 11:16:30 -0500, "P Fritz" wrote:


"Lord Reginald Smithers" Ask me about my driveway leading up to my manor.
wrote in message ...
Harry,
Have you noticed even the Dem's don't want to set a timetable to pull out

of
Iraq.


"Kerry drones that we need to "set benchmarks" for the "transfer of
authority." Actually, the administration's been doing that for two years --
setting dates for the return of sovereignty, for electing a national
assembly, for approving a constitution, etc, and meeting all of them. And
all during those same two years Kerry and his fellow Democrats have huffed
that these dates are far too premature, the Iraqis aren't in a position to
take over, hold an election, whatever. The Defeaticrats were against the
benchmarks before they were for them.


Kerry has two trains of thought.

If something went right, Kerry says, "I've been telling the administration to do that for months."

If something is not right, Kerry says, "I've got a plan that will fix anything."

Some people actually believe him.

--
John H

MERRY CHRISTMAS!

Wishing you Peace, Fellowship, and Good Humor as we celebrate the birth of OUR Lord, Jesus Christ on the Christmas Holy Day.

NOYB December 5th 05 06:26 PM

OT--9 point jump in number of Americans who now believe US is winning the War on Terror.
 

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
NOYB wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
NOYB wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
NOYB wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
NOYB wrote:
What about the Iraqis who want us out and are shooting at and
otherwise creating mayhem for US troops?
If they're solely targeting US troops, then call them the
"resistance" movement...or "freedom fighters" if that pleases you
more. But the majority of the indiscriminate bombings and killings
over there are being conducted by terrorists...most of whom are
foreign-born.
B.S. to the "foreign-born." Most of them are Iraqis. Prove
otherwise, without citing anyone in anyway connected to the lying
Bush misadministration, or anyone who reports to it.
Who would you consider a reputable source to substantiate my claim?
By adding in the words "anyone who reports to it (the Bush
administration)", you have just ruled out every member of our armed
forces.

So the only other people with eyes and ears on the ground in Iraq are
the newly elected Iraqi officials. Would you like to hear Prime
Minister al-Jafari's take on the question about who's doing the
killing?
- - -


There's no reason to believe Bush, his administration, or anyone who
reports to it or is beholden to it.

So then:

"Who would you consider a reputable source to substantiate my claim?"
You puzzle it out, and come back when you have some legitimate data.


Sorry, I don't play that game. Tell who you'd trust, and I'll find the
reference data to support my statement.


A legitimate party or organizations not connected in any way to the Bush
Administration or those who report to it or those it controls. There is
real data out there, it all conflicts, of course, but...if you are looking
for real answers, instead of Bush administration b.s., it's there for the
finding.


LOL. Nice dodge.




thunder December 5th 05 06:32 PM

OT--9 point jump in number of Americans who now believe US is winning the War on Terror.
 
On Mon, 05 Dec 2005 17:26:42 +0000, NOYB wrote:


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
NOYB wrote:

What about the Iraqis who want us out and are shooting at and
otherwise creating mayhem for US troops?

If they're solely targeting US troops, then call them the "resistance"
movement...or "freedom fighters" if that pleases you more. But the
majority of the indiscriminate bombings and killings over there are
being conducted by terrorists...most of whom are foreign-born.



B.S. to the "foreign-born." Most of them are Iraqis. Prove otherwise,
without citing anyone in anyway connected to the lying Bush
misadministration, or anyone who reports to it.


Who would you consider a reputable source to substantiate my claim?

By adding in the words "anyone who reports to it (the Bush
administration)", you have just ruled out every member of our armed
forces.

So the only other people with eyes and ears on the ground in Iraq are the
newly elected Iraqi officials. Would you like to hear Prime Minister
al-Jafari's take on the question about who's doing the killing?


NOYB, every source I have come up with cite the numbers of foreign
insurgents to be 10% or less of the insurgency.

http://www.csmonitor.com/2005/0923/dailyUpdate.html

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4268904.stm

John H. December 5th 05 06:38 PM

OT--9 point jump in number of Americans who now believe US is winning the War on Terror.
 
On Mon, 05 Dec 2005 13:05:08 -0500, thunder wrote:

On Mon, 05 Dec 2005 11:50:43 -0500, John H. wrote:

On Mon, 05 Dec 2005 14:21:30 GMT, "NOYB" wrote:


"Tamaroak" wrote in message
...
And you think the situation in Iraq is improving?

Absolutely.


Ditto. And, anyone who would open their eyes to something other than NBC,
CNN, et al, would also know so.


That's great news, John. Seeing your news sources are so much better than
ours, perhaps you wouldn't mind answering a few questions for the rest of
us. What's the current status on electricity? Sewage? Water? What's
the current unemployment rate in Iraq? What percentage of the schools are
open? What about hospitals?

Now that the situation is improving, I guess we can stop spending money
with the Lincoln Group.

http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald...n/13333175.htm


Watch *all* the news and reach your own conclusions.

--
John H

MERRY CHRISTMAS!

Wishing you Peace, Fellowship, and Good Humor as we celebrate the birth of OUR Lord, Jesus Christ on the Christmas Holy Day.

John H. December 5th 05 06:41 PM

OT--9 point jump in number of Americans who now believe US is winning the War on Terror.
 
On Mon, 05 Dec 2005 12:34:41 -0500, Harry Krause wrote:

Lord Reginald Smithers wrote:
Harry,



You *still* haven't figured it out, eh, crap-for-brains?

There is not one opinion of yours nor one piece of advice or information
from you about which I give a ****. Same goes for your questions, your
comments, your "advice," your whatever.

Save your keystrokes for someone who cares.

Is that clear enough for you? Do you get it yet, scumbag?
We're *not* going to be engaging in dialogue, now or ever.
All you will get when I bother to respond at all is a canned response.

Got it?


All that may be a true statement of your feelings, Harold. But...he was correct.

--
John H

MERRY CHRISTMAS!

Wishing you Peace, Fellowship, and Good Humor as we celebrate the birth of OUR Lord, Jesus Christ on the Christmas Holy Day.


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