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"NOYB" wrote in message
.net...
Jim Carter wrote:
NOYB, if another county attacked the USA, and you decided to fight for
the
freedom of your country, would you be called a "terrorist" or a
"freedom
fighter"?

Jim C.
I most certainly wouldn't start bombing Canadian citizens and Canadian
infrastructure if Canada were invaded by a Chinese army hellbent on
ousting
the Canadian government.
NOYB, you never answered my question. Terrorist or Freedom Fighter????

Jim C.

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"Lord Reginald Smithers" Ask me about my driveway leading up to my manor.
wrote in message ...
Harry,
Have you noticed even the Dem's don't want to set a timetable to pull out
of
Iraq.

"Kerry drones that we need to "set benchmarks" for the "transfer of
authority." Actually, the administration's been doing that for two years --
setting dates for the return of sovereignty, for electing a national
assembly, for approving a constitution, etc, and meeting all of them. And
all during those same two years Kerry and his fellow Democrats have huffed
that these dates are far too premature, the Iraqis aren't in a position to
take over, hold an election, whatever. The Defeaticrats were against the
benchmarks before they were for them.
These sad hollow men may yet get their way -- which is to say they may
succeed in persuading the American people that a remarkable victory in the
Middle East is in fact a humiliating defeat. It would be an incredible
achievement. Peter Worthington, the Canadian columnist and veteran of World
War II and Korea, likes to say that there's no such thing as an unpopular
won war. The Democrat-media alliance are determined to make Iraq an
exception to that rule. In a week's time, Iraqis will participate in the
most open political contest in the history of the Middle East. They're
building the freest society in the region, and the only truly federal
system. In three-quarters of the country, life has never been better.
There's an economic boom in the Shia south and a tourist boom in the Kurdish
north, and, while the only thing going boom in the Sunni Triangle are the
suicide bombers, there were fewer of those in November than in the previous
seven months.

Meanwhile, Iraq's experiment in Arab liberty has had ripple effects beyond
its borders, pushing the Syrians most of the way out of Lebanon, and in
Syria itself significantly weakening Baby Assad's regime. Saad Eddin
Ibrahim, who's spent years as a beleaguered democracy advocate in Egypt,
told the Washington Post's Jim Hoagland the other day that, although he'd
opposed the Anglo-American invasion of Iraq, he had to admit it had
"unfrozen the Middle East, just as Napoleon's 1798 expedition did. Elections
in Iraq force the theocrats and autocrats to put democracy on the agenda,
even if only to fight against us. Look, neither Napoleon nor President Bush
could impregnate the region with political change. But they were able to be
the midwives."

The Egyptians get it, so do the Iraqis, the Lebanese, the Jordanians and the
Syrians. The choice is never between a risky action and the status quo --
i.e., leaving Saddam in power, U.N. sanctions, U.S. forces sitting on his
borders. The stability fetishists in the State Department and the European
Union fail to understand that there is no status quo: things are always
moving in some direction and, if you leave a dictator and his psychotic sons
in business, and his Oil-for-Food scam up and running, and his nuclear R&D
teams in places, chances are they're moving in his direction.

Toppling Saddam was worth doing in and of itself. Toppling Saddam and trying
to "midwife" (in Ibrahim's word) a free society would be worth doing even if
it failed. But, as it happens, I don't believe it will fail, not just
because of Bush but because enough Iraqis -- Shia, Kurds and even
significant numbers of Sunnis -- are determined not to let it fail."

http://www.suntimes.com/output/steyn...t-steyn04.html






"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Tamaroak wrote:
And you think the situation in Iraq is improving?

Capt. Jeff

Did we pull out of Iraq over the weekend? That's the only way we'll win
there.


--
Warriors

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On Mon, 05 Dec 2005 14:21:30 GMT, "NOYB" wrote:


"Tamaroak" wrote in message
...
And you think the situation in Iraq is improving?

Absolutely.


Ditto. And, anyone who would open their eyes to something other than NBC, CNN, et al, would also
know so.

--
John H

MERRY CHRISTMAS!

Wishing you Peace, Fellowship, and Good Humor as we celebrate the birth of OUR Lord, Jesus Christ on the Christmas Holy Day.

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"Jim Carter" wrote in message
...

"NOYB" wrote in message
.net...
Jim Carter wrote:
NOYB, if another county attacked the USA, and you decided to fight
for
the
freedom of your country, would you be called a "terrorist" or a
"freedom
fighter"?

Jim C.
I most certainly wouldn't start bombing Canadian citizens and Canadian
infrastructure if Canada were invaded by a Chinese army hellbent on
ousting
the Canadian government.
NOYB, you never answered my question. Terrorist or Freedom Fighter????

I answered your question...but perhaps the answer was a little bit too
subtle for your liking.

The folks who are doing most of the killing of US soldiers and Iraqis are
terrorists. They are foreign-born, and have come to Iraq to conduct
terrorist activities against the US, and anybody who supports the US.

I was born in the US. If I were trying to kill soldiers and blow up
military equipment from an invading country, I'd be a "freedom fighter".
However, if I were using roadside bombs to indescriminately kill American
citizens, American police and security forces, American government offices,
American hotels, and the forces of the invading army, I'd be a terrorist.

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"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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NOYB wrote:
"Jim Carter" wrote in message
...
"NOYB" wrote in message
k.net...
When you say "we" will win, you mean, of course, you, moveon.org, the
Democratic party, and the terrorists who are seeking to oust us from
Iraq.
That's pretty strange company that you keep.
NOYB, if another county attacked the USA, and you decided to fight for
the
freedom of your country, would you be called a "terrorist" or a "freedom
fighter"?


If another country attacked Canada, and Harry decided to fight for the
freedom of Canadians by blowing up Canadian infrastructure, terrorizing
the Canadian populace, and indescriminately killing the invading forces
and Candian citizens alike, then Harry would be called a "terrorist".

It's those foreign-born non-Iraqis that I'm referring to as terrorists.





What about the Iraqis who want us out and are shooting at and otherwise
creating mayhem for US troops?

If they're solely targeting US troops, then call them the "resistance"
movement...or "freedom fighters" if that pleases you more. But the majority
of the indiscriminate bombings and killings over there are being conducted
by terrorists...most of whom are foreign-born.

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Harry,
Can you prove that most of the terrorist are Iraqis, without citing anyone
connected with any political organization? There really is no reason to
believe anything you post in rec.boats. You have stated many times the only
reason you come to rec.boats is to harass the right wing trash.


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
NOYB wrote:

What about the Iraqis who want us out and are shooting at and otherwise
creating mayhem for US troops?

If they're solely targeting US troops, then call them the "resistance"
movement...or "freedom fighters" if that pleases you more. But the
majority of the indiscriminate bombings and killings over there are being
conducted by terrorists...most of whom are foreign-born.


B.S. to the "foreign-born." Most of them are Iraqis. Prove otherwise,
without citing anyone in anyway connected to the lying Bush
misadministration, or anyone who reports to it. There's no reason to
believe anything the Bush misadministration says or claims about Iraq.



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"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
NOYB wrote:

What about the Iraqis who want us out and are shooting at and otherwise
creating mayhem for US troops?

If they're solely targeting US troops, then call them the "resistance"
movement...or "freedom fighters" if that pleases you more. But the
majority of the indiscriminate bombings and killings over there are being
conducted by terrorists...most of whom are foreign-born.


B.S. to the "foreign-born." Most of them are Iraqis. Prove otherwise,
without citing anyone in anyway connected to the lying Bush
misadministration, or anyone who reports to it.

Who would you consider a reputable source to substantiate my claim?

By adding in the words "anyone who reports to it (the Bush administration)",
you have just ruled out every member of our armed forces.

So the only other people with eyes and ears on the ground in Iraq are the
newly elected Iraqi officials. Would you like to hear Prime Minister
al-Jafari's take on the question about who's doing the killing?

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"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
NOYB wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
NOYB wrote:
What about the Iraqis who want us out and are shooting at and
otherwise creating mayhem for US troops?
If they're solely targeting US troops, then call them the "resistance"
movement...or "freedom fighters" if that pleases you more. But the
majority of the indiscriminate bombings and killings over there are
being conducted by terrorists...most of whom are foreign-born.

B.S. to the "foreign-born." Most of them are Iraqis. Prove otherwise,
without citing anyone in anyway connected to the lying Bush
misadministration, or anyone who reports to it.

Who would you consider a reputable source to substantiate my claim?

By adding in the words "anyone who reports to it (the Bush
administration)", you have just ruled out every member of our armed
forces.

So the only other people with eyes and ears on the ground in Iraq are the
newly elected Iraqi officials. Would you like to hear Prime Minister
al-Jafari's take on the question about who's doing the killing?

- - -


There's no reason to believe Bush, his administration, or anyone who
reports to it or is beholden to it.


So then:

"Who would you consider a reputable source to substantiate my claim?"

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Harry,
Tell me what is bothering you. Open up, and just say how you are feeling.


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Lord Reginald Smithers wrote:
Harry,


You *still* haven't figured it out, eh, crap-for-brains?

There is not one opinion of yours nor one piece of advice or information
from you about which I give a ****. Same goes for your questions, your
comments, your "advice," your whatever.

Save your keystrokes for someone who cares.

Is that clear enough for you? Do you get it yet, scumbag?
We're *not* going to be engaging in dialogue, now or ever.
All you will get when I bother to respond at all is a canned response.

Got it?



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NYOB,
Have you figured it out yet? Anyone you come up with to substantiate your
claim is not legitimate. If they were legitimate, they would support
Harry's claim.


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
NOYB wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
NOYB wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
NOYB wrote:
What about the Iraqis who want us out and are shooting at and
otherwise creating mayhem for US troops?
If they're solely targeting US troops, then call them the
"resistance" movement...or "freedom fighters" if that pleases you
more. But the majority of the indiscriminate bombings and killings
over there are being conducted by terrorists...most of whom are
foreign-born.
B.S. to the "foreign-born." Most of them are Iraqis. Prove otherwise,
without citing anyone in anyway connected to the lying Bush
misadministration, or anyone who reports to it.
Who would you consider a reputable source to substantiate my claim?

By adding in the words "anyone who reports to it (the Bush
administration)", you have just ruled out every member of our armed
forces.

So the only other people with eyes and ears on the ground in Iraq are
the newly elected Iraqi officials. Would you like to hear Prime
Minister al-Jafari's take on the question about who's doing the
killing?
- - -


There's no reason to believe Bush, his administration, or anyone who
reports to it or is beholden to it.


So then:

"Who would you consider a reputable source to substantiate my claim?"

You puzzle it out, and come back when you have some legitimate data.





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Jesus: A Long Haired, Peace Loving, Anti Establishment, Liberal.