Is this rec.boats or politics.stupid
 

I don't mean to be rude, but there are considerable more polictical posts on
this group then there are boats. Shouldn't we stay on target and post the
polictical BS on another site?

Is this rec.boats or politics.stupid
 

John wrote:
I don't mean to be rude, but there are considerable more polictical posts on
this group then there are boats. Shouldn't we stay on target and post the
polictical BS on another site?

Good luck with that. :-)

One whole big chunk of the frequent posters here post almost
exclusively about politics.
A few will mention something about a boat, rarely, but quite a few in
"the heart of the lineup" don't even make a pretense about an interest
in boats or boating.

We all seem to dabble in OT posts from time to time. Certainly I have
done so. What is unique to the internet, however, seems to be this form
of communication where people post the meanest, most vile and hateful
things they can imagine to virtual strangers in a public forum. If you
take a step back from the fray and look at what's going on, it's really
bizarre.

Are you the same guy that asked about Crownline yesterday? It remains
true that if you pose a boating question or comment you will get *some*
response, but if you want to be sure that you start a thread that will
go on for several days and extend to hundreds of posts between 8-12
participants, just mention: conservatives, liberals, George Bush, Bill
Clinton, war in Iraq, peace in Iraq, gun control, homosexuality,
abortion, Islam,... or call somebody a name.

Weird that it works that way in this group, but it does.

It's a social phenomenon that goes well beyond rec.boats. I am learning
to play the bagpipe, (or attempting to learn), and I checked out the
bagpipe NG one day. Lo and behold, one or two (unemployed ?) guys
dominate the board and spend all day posting OT insults and crap.

If I wanted to ask a question about bagpiping, I'd be afraid to do so
on that site for fear of the smart-assed and insulting response I'd
likely get.

There are some good boating NG's. hulltruth, iboat, and some others.
Sorry to say, this isn't one of them- hasn't been for the last several
years and it's unlikely that it will ever be again.

Is this rec.boats or politics.stupid
 

John wrote:
I don't mean to be rude, but there are considerable more polictical posts on
this group then there are boats. Shouldn't we stay on target and post the
polictical BS on another site?


Trouble is... a sizeable portion of the worst posters don't own boats.
They wouldn't have anything to say if they couldn't post OT.

Is this rec.boats or politics.stupid
 

Chuck,

Yes, that was me inquiring about the Crownlines. I found some of your
write-ups on the internet (very good job).

I guess I'm just use to moderated newsgroups, where posts stay on topic or
are removed. It doesn't make sense to me why someone would post their
political view on a boat newsgroup. Seems this would only drive boat people
away and attract non boat people; kinda the opposite of what you would think
people would want...

Thanks again for putting things into perspective. I quess like everything
else, you have to take the good with the bad...

That remindings me about the American liberal consverative homosexual in
Iraq who thinks guns should be outlawed since there are used to kill doctors
in aboration clinics (did I cover enough).

John
wrote in message
oups.com...

John wrote:
I don't mean to be rude, but there are considerable more polictical
posts on
this group then there are boats. Shouldn't we stay on target and post
the
polictical BS on another site?

Good luck with that. :-)

One whole big chunk of the frequent posters here post almost
exclusively about politics.
A few will mention something about a boat, rarely, but quite a few in
"the heart of the lineup" don't even make a pretense about an interest
in boats or boating.

We all seem to dabble in OT posts from time to time. Certainly I have
done so. What is unique to the internet, however, seems to be this form
of communication where people post the meanest, most vile and hateful
things they can imagine to virtual strangers in a public forum. If you
take a step back from the fray and look at what's going on, it's really
bizarre.

Are you the same guy that asked about Crownline yesterday? It remains
true that if you pose a boating question or comment you will get *some*
response, but if you want to be sure that you start a thread that will
go on for several days and extend to hundreds of posts between 8-12
participants, just mention: conservatives, liberals, George Bush, Bill
Clinton, war in Iraq, peace in Iraq, gun control, homosexuality,
abortion, Islam,... or call somebody a name.

Weird that it works that way in this group, but it does.

It's a social phenomenon that goes well beyond rec.boats. I am learning
to play the bagpipe, (or attempting to learn), and I checked out the
bagpipe NG one day. Lo and behold, one or two (unemployed ?) guys
dominate the board and spend all day posting OT insults and crap.

If I wanted to ask a question about bagpiping, I'd be afraid to do so
on that site for fear of the smart-assed and insulting response I'd
likely get.

There are some good boating NG's. hulltruth, iboat, and some others.
Sorry to say, this isn't one of them- hasn't been for the last several
years and it's unlikely that it will ever be again.

Is this rec.boats or politics.stupid
 

Good point...

"Commodore Joe Redcloud" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 1 Dec 2005 18:02:34 -0600, "John"
wrote:

I don't mean to be rude, but there are considerable more polictical posts
on
this group then there are boats. Shouldn't we stay on target and post
the
polictical BS on another site?


So where are your many on-topic posts that spark boating conversation?
It's so
easy to complain, compared to actually participating.


Commodore Joe Redcloud

Is this rec.boats or politics.stupid
 

wrote in message
oups.com...

John wrote:
I don't mean to be rude, but there are considerable more polictical posts
on
this group then there are boats. Shouldn't we stay on target and post
the
polictical BS on another site?

Good luck with that. :-)

One whole big chunk of the frequent posters here post almost
exclusively about politics.
A few will mention something about a boat, rarely, but quite a few in
"the heart of the lineup" don't even make a pretense about an interest
in boats or boating.


And until recently you fit into that group. ;-)

If you are changing your habits, good for you. In fact your review of
Crownline boats was quite good.

I know I am living in a glass house. But I also did not claim to live in a
brick house. ;-)

Is this rec.boats or politics.stupid
 

wrote in message
oups.com...
if you want to be sure that you start a thread that will
go on for several days and extend to hundreds of posts between 8-12
participants, just mention: conservatives, liberals, George Bush, Bill
Clinton, war in Iraq, peace in Iraq, gun control, homosexuality,
abortion, Islam,... or call somebody a name.

Great. Now that you've included all of those trigger words in this thread,
you've assured that it will go on for several days and hundreds of posts.


BTW--I oppose at least 7 of the things that you listed above. Can you guess
which seven?

Is this rec.boats or politics.stupid
 

NOYB wrote:
wrote in message
oups.com...

if you want to be sure that you start a thread that will
go on for several days and extend to hundreds of posts between 8-12
participants, just mention: conservatives, liberals, George Bush, Bill
Clinton, war in Iraq, peace in Iraq, gun control, homosexuality,
abortion, Islam,... or call somebody a name.


Great. Now that you've included all of those trigger words in this thread,
you've assured that it will go on for several days and hundreds of posts.


BTW--I oppose at least 7 of the things that you listed above. Can you guess
which seven?



I guess...
conservatives
George Bush
war in Iraq
calling somebody a name
....anybody else help out??

Is this rec.boats or politics.stupid
 

Don,
I keep hearing this sizeable portion of the worst posters who don't own
boats, who are these people?


"Don White" wrote in message
...
John wrote:
I don't mean to be rude, but there are considerable more polictical posts
on
this group then there are boats. Shouldn't we stay on target and post
the
polictical BS on another site?


Trouble is... a sizeable portion of the worst posters don't own boats.
They wouldn't have anything to say if they couldn't post OT.

Is this rec.boats or politics.stupid
 

"John" wrote in message
news:yaMjf.48101$2k5.27325@dukeread09...
I don't mean to be rude, but there are considerable more polictical posts
on
this group then there are boats. Shouldn't we stay on target and post the
polictical BS on another site?



Politics are not stupid, liberals are.

Is this rec.boats or politics.stupid
 

Don White wrote:
John wrote:
I don't mean to be rude, but there are considerable more polictical posts on
this group then there are boats. Shouldn't we stay on target and post the
polictical BS on another site?


Trouble is... a sizeable portion of the worst posters don't own boats.
They wouldn't have anything to say if they couldn't post OT.

Or, they've just gotten a boat, and since getting it, feel the need to
ask everyone to post a picture of their's! Reminds you of a certain
rec.boats clergyman, huh?!

Is this rec.boats or politics.stupid
 

wrote in message
oups.com...

Don White wrote:
John wrote:
I don't mean to be rude, but there are considerable more polictical
posts on
this group then there are boats. Shouldn't we stay on target and post
the
polictical BS on another site?


Trouble is... a sizeable portion of the worst posters don't own boats.
They wouldn't have anything to say if they couldn't post OT.

Or, they've just gotten a boat, and since getting it, feel the need to
ask everyone to post a picture of their's! Reminds you of a certain
rec.boats clergyman, huh?!


Don?

Show us a picture of your boat Kevin. Do you actually own one?

Is this rec.boats or politics.stupid
 

Kevin,
I think Don was talking about you when he said the worst OT posters don't
own a boat.


wrote in message
oups.com...

Don White wrote:
John wrote:
I don't mean to be rude, but there are considerable more polictical
posts on
this group then there are boats. Shouldn't we stay on target and post
the
polictical BS on another site?


Trouble is... a sizeable portion of the worst posters don't own boats.
They wouldn't have anything to say if they couldn't post OT.

Or, they've just gotten a boat, and since getting it, feel the need to
ask everyone to post a picture of their's! Reminds you of a certain
rec.boats clergyman, huh?!

Is this rec.boats or politics.stupid
 

*JimH* wrote:
wrote in message
oups.com...

John wrote:
I don't mean to be rude, but there are considerable more polictical posts
on
this group then there are boats. Shouldn't we stay on target and post
the
polictical BS on another site?

Good luck with that. :-)

One whole big chunk of the frequent posters here post almost
exclusively about politics.
A few will mention something about a boat, rarely, but quite a few in
"the heart of the lineup" don't even make a pretense about an interest
in boats or boating.


And until recently you fit into that group. ;-)

If you are changing your habits, good for you. In fact your review of
Crownline boats was quite good.

I know I am living in a glass house. But I also did not claim to live in a
brick house. ;-)


G'morning, Mr. Hertvik. The portion of my remarks that you snipped
included a statement that most of us have engaged in OT posting and a
statement "Certainly I have done so."
With that portion of the post removed, your comments are appropriate.
With the original post considered in its entirety, your observations
are superflous. Have a pleasant day.

Is this rec.boats or politics.stupid
 

wrote in message
oups.com...

*JimH* wrote:
wrote in message
oups.com...

John wrote:
I don't mean to be rude, but there are considerable more polictical
posts
on
this group then there are boats. Shouldn't we stay on target and post
the
polictical BS on another site?

Good luck with that. :-)

One whole big chunk of the frequent posters here post almost
exclusively about politics.
A few will mention something about a boat, rarely, but quite a few in
"the heart of the lineup" don't even make a pretense about an interest
in boats or boating.


And until recently you fit into that group. ;-)

If you are changing your habits, good for you. In fact your review of
Crownline boats was quite good.

I know I am living in a glass house. But I also did not claim to live in
a
brick house. ;-)


G'morning, Mr. Hert. The portion of my remarks that you snipped
included a statement that most of us have engaged in OT posting and a
statement "Certainly I have done so."
With that portion of the post removed, your comments are appropriate.
With the original post considered in its entirety, your observations
are superflous. Have a pleasant day.


Good morning Chuck. Please, call me Jim. ;-)

Is this rec.boats or politics.stupid
 

Commodore Joe Redcloud wrote:
On Thu, 1 Dec 2005 18:40:23 -0600, "John" wrote:

Good point...

"Commodore Joe Redcloud" wrote in message
.. .
On Thu, 1 Dec 2005 18:02:34 -0600, "John"
wrote:

I don't mean to be rude, but there are considerable more polictical posts
on
this group then there are boats. Shouldn't we stay on target and post
the
polictical BS on another site?


So where are your many on-topic posts that spark boating conversation?
It's so
easy to complain, compared to actually participating.


Commodore Joe Redcloud


I look forward to your on-topic posts! I really do! This group could actually be
turned around if enough people started lots of threads about boats and boating,
and nobody responded in any way to political trolling.


Commodore Joe Redcloud


One of the challenges this group has faced, for many years, is that it
tends to drive away
participants who are actual experts in marine related fields. Most of
the rec.boats crew who own boats own outboard or sterndrive trailer
boats......(no surprise, most people who own a boat own an outboard or
sterndrive trailer boat...). Were you here, under a different screen
name perhaps, when Dave Brown, Peggie Hall, Bill Grannis, and others
were regular participants? One could post, (in example), "Why does my
1996 65HP Mercury outboard always seem to stall out and die a couple of
hundred yards from the dock?" and somebody who actually *knew what they
were talking about (!)* and worked on outboards
as a profession would offer a very short list of things to check. The
usual follow up posts were of two varieties:

1) The poser of the original question posting a "Thank you, it did turn
out to be debris in the vent cap of the fuel tank....."

2) The same couple of people calling names, hollering "SPAM"!, making
absolutely terrible
comments about anybody who would make a living selling or servicing
boats, and generally communicating how totally unwelcome were any
remarks from a qualified professional in the field being discussed.


The ultimate irony might be that, in some cases, a few of the anti-spam
crew post nothing but political garbage, personal attacks, cut 'n paste
liberal or conservative propaganda, and engage in years-long public
flame fests with the same two or three individuals here. The first time
an outboard motor repairman, a boat builder, or a diesel mechanic
mentions their profession in this NG, predictible voices ring out with
"Get the hell off of rec.boats! This group isn't here so you can
advertise your services!" (advertise? to a group of about 30? including
perhaps 10-12 non-boaters?) After enough requests to stop interrupting
the flaming, political posting, rival cut 'n pastes, and name calling-
most of the actual experts have complied.

Is this rec.boats or politics.stupid
 

*JimH* wrote:
wrote in message
oups.com...

Don White wrote:
John wrote:
I don't mean to be rude, but there are considerable more polictical
posts on
this group then there are boats. Shouldn't we stay on target and post
the
polictical BS on another site?


Trouble is... a sizeable portion of the worst posters don't own boats.
They wouldn't have anything to say if they couldn't post OT.

Or, they've just gotten a boat, and since getting it, feel the need to
ask everyone to post a picture of their's! Reminds you of a certain
rec.boats clergyman, huh?!


Don?

Show us a picture of your boat Kevin.
No

Do you actually own one?
Yes. AND a canoe.

See Don?? How's THAT for a childish buffoon!! Old Jim doesn't even
realize what an idiot he's being!!

Jim, how come you didn't ask that a few hundred times before you bought
an old runabout?

Is this rec.boats or politics.stupid
 

wrote:
*JimH* wrote:
wrote in message
oups.com...

John wrote:
I don't mean to be rude, but there are considerable more polictical posts
on
this group then there are boats. Shouldn't we stay on target and post
the
polictical BS on another site?

Good luck with that. :-)

One whole big chunk of the frequent posters here post almost
exclusively about politics.
A few will mention something about a boat, rarely, but quite a few in
"the heart of the lineup" don't even make a pretense about an interest
in boats or boating.


And until recently you fit into that group. ;-)

If you are changing your habits, good for you. In fact your review of
Crownline boats was quite good.

I know I am living in a glass house. But I also did not claim to live in a
brick house. ;-)


G'morning, Mr. Hertvik. The portion of my remarks that you snipped
included a statement that most of us have engaged in OT posting and a
statement "Certainly I have done so."
With that portion of the post removed, your comments are appropriate.
With the original post considered in its entirety, your observations
are superflous. Have a pleasant day.

Jim's like that, it's just more of his childish antics. I think I've
solved it. He is a child messing with his parent's computer. It makes
sense. The moped, his childish actions here, his holier-than-thou
attitude, his petty name calling and lies.......

Is this rec.boats or politics.stupid
 

Lord Reginald Smithers wrote:
Kevin,
I think Don was talking about you when he said the worst OT posters don't
own a boat.


Sorry Mr. Smithers.
Everyone here knows I have a Sandpiper 565 sailboat.
I believe he's questioning your mode of water transportation.

Is this rec.boats or politics.stupid
 

Don White wrote:
Lord Reginald Smithers wrote:

Kevin,
I think Don was talking about you when he said the worst OT posters
don't own a boat.


Sorry Mr. Smithers.
Everyone here knows I have a Sandpiper 565 sailboat.
I believe he's questioning your mode of water transportation.

Whoops...did I get this backwards?
Anyway...my statement stands and yours is full of hot air.

Is this rec.boats or politics.stupid
 

"Don White" wrote in message
...
Don White wrote:
Lord Reginald Smithers wrote:

Kevin,
I think Don was talking about you when he said the worst OT posters
don't own a boat.


Sorry Mr. Smithers.
Everyone here knows I have a Sandpiper 565 sailboat.
I believe he's questioning your mode of water transportation.

Whoops...did I get this backwards?
Anyway...my statement stands and yours is full of hot air.


We know you have a boat Don. How is it you know that Kevin has one?

Is this rec.boats or politics.stupid
 

On Fri, 02 Dec 2005 12:21:39 -0500, Harry Krause wrote:

Don White wrote:
Lord Reginald Smithers wrote:
Kevin,
I think Don was talking about you when he said the worst OT posters don't
own a boat.


Sorry Mr. Smithers.
Everyone here knows I have a Sandpiper 565 sailboat.
I believe he's questioning your mode of water transportation.


If the laws of physics haven't change, Smithers has no worries: sh*t
still floats.

Studied that a lot, have you?
--
John H

"It's not a *baby* kicking, beautiful bride, it's just a fetus!"
[A Self-obsessed Hypocrite]

Is this rec.boats or politics.stupid
 

*JimH* wrote:
"Don White" wrote in message
...

Don White wrote:

Lord Reginald Smithers wrote:


Kevin,
I think Don was talking about you when he said the worst OT posters
don't own a boat.


Sorry Mr. Smithers.
Everyone here knows I have a Sandpiper 565 sailboat.
I believe he's questioning your mode of water transportation.

Whoops...did I get this backwards?
Anyway...my statement stands and yours is full of hot air.



We know you have a boat Don. How is it you know that Kevin has one?


Sorry...I don't know this Kevin you keep referring to.

Is this rec.boats or politics.stupid
 

*JimH* wrote:
"Don White" wrote in message
...
Don White wrote:
Lord Reginald Smithers wrote:

Kevin,
I think Don was talking about you when he said the worst OT posters
don't own a boat.


Sorry Mr. Smithers.
Everyone here knows I have a Sandpiper 565 sailboat.
I believe he's questioning your mode of water transportation.

Whoops...did I get this backwards?
Anyway...my statement stands and yours is full of hot air.


We know you have a boat Don. How is it you know that Kevin has one?

Hey, Jim, he doesn't know if Kevin has a boat or not. He does, however,
know that I have one. And he knows who I am.....he's brighter than you.

Now, Jim, why in the world won't you answer my simple question to you:

Jim, how come you didn't ask that a few hundred times before you bought

an old runabout?

Is this rec.boats or politics.stupid
 

Grin,
Sorry, I thought you were talking about Kevin not having a boat. Who are
all these boatless son of a bitches, and lets get them out of rec.boats.


"Don White" wrote in message
...
Don White wrote:
Lord Reginald Smithers wrote:

Kevin,
I think Don was talking about you when he said the worst OT posters
don't own a boat.


Sorry Mr. Smithers.
Everyone here knows I have a Sandpiper 565 sailboat.
I believe he's questioning your mode of water transportation.

Whoops...did I get this backwards?
Anyway...my statement stands and yours is full of hot air.

Is this rec.boats or politics.stupid
 

Is this rec.boats or politics.stupid
 

Kevin,
It is amazing how similar you and Harry is, he owns a canoe also.


wrote in message
oups.com...

*JimH* wrote:
wrote in message
oups.com...

Don White wrote:
John wrote:
I don't mean to be rude, but there are considerable more polictical
posts on
this group then there are boats. Shouldn't we stay on target and
post
the
polictical BS on another site?


Trouble is... a sizeable portion of the worst posters don't own boats.
They wouldn't have anything to say if they couldn't post OT.

Or, they've just gotten a boat, and since getting it, feel the need to
ask everyone to post a picture of their's! Reminds you of a certain
rec.boats clergyman, huh?!


Don?

Show us a picture of your boat Kevin.
No

Do you actually own one?
Yes. AND a canoe.

See Don?? How's THAT for a childish buffoon!! Old Jim doesn't even
realize what an idiot he's being!!

Jim, how come you didn't ask that a few hundred times before you bought
an old runabout?

Is this rec.boats or politics.stupid
 

Kevin,

WOW, how does Don know who you are and what kind of boat you own?


wrote in message
ups.com...

*JimH* wrote:
"Don White" wrote in message
...
Don White wrote:
Lord Reginald Smithers wrote:

Kevin,
I think Don was talking about you when he said the worst OT posters
don't own a boat.


Sorry Mr. Smithers.
Everyone here knows I have a Sandpiper 565 sailboat.
I believe he's questioning your mode of water transportation.

Whoops...did I get this backwards?
Anyway...my statement stands and yours is full of hot air.


We know you have a boat Don. How is it you know that Kevin has one?

Hey, Jim, he doesn't know if Kevin has a boat or not. He does, however,
know that I have one. And he knows who I am.....he's brighter than you.

Now, Jim, why in the world won't you answer my simple question to you:

Jim, how come you didn't ask that a few hundred times before you bought

an old runabout?

Is this rec.boats or politics.stupid
 

Skipper wrote:
snip...

Truth be known, many of these boaters you view as inferior actually
have much
greater and varied boating experiences than yourself. They have traveled
boating worlds you never will.

snip
Skipper

If you are speaking about yourself..... 'only in your dreams'.
Your wild & wooly stories about the Sea of Cortez outed you.

Is this rec.boats or politics.stupid
 

Wow!!!

This sight has people with serious, serious, serious issues and they're not
boat related. Good luck to you all, reply if you like, but I'll never be
back.

"John" wrote in message
news:yaMjf.48101$2k5.27325@dukeread09...
I don't mean to be rude, but there are considerable more polictical posts
on
this group then there are boats. Shouldn't we stay on target and post the
polictical BS on another site?

Is this rec.boats or politics.stupid
 

Lord Reginald Smithers wrote:
Kevin,

WOW, how does Don know who you are and what kind of boat you own?



Kevin who? Don doesn't know any Kevin here on wrecked.boats.

Is this rec.boats or politics.stupid
 

John wrote:
Wow!!!

This sight has people with serious, serious, serious issues and they're not
boat related. Good luck to you all, reply if you like, but I'll never be
back.

"John" wrote in message


*sight*?? You wouldn't want to see some of the *sights* that inhabit
this *site'!

Is this rec.boats or politics.stupid
 

Wow!!!

I've never seen a news group with so much hate and anger... Talk about
Grumpy old men

Good luck to you all, you'll need. Reply if you like but I'll never be back


"John" wrote in message
news:yaMjf.48101$2k5.27325@dukeread09...
I don't mean to be rude, but there are considerable more polictical posts
on
this group then there are boats. Shouldn't we stay on target and post the
polictical BS on another site?

Is this rec.boats or politics.stupid
 

Skipper wrote:
wrote:

One of the challenges this group has faced, for many years, is that it
tends to drive away participants who are actual experts in marine related
fields. Most of the rec.boats crew who own boats own outboard or sterndrive
trailer boats......

And just what is wrong with the contributions from experienced boaters
who own outboard/sterndrive trailerable boats, Chucky? Do you feel their
opinions are not worthy? Are their views less valid than yours? Truth be
known, many of these boaters you view as inferior actually have much
greater and varied boating experiences than yourself. They have traveled
boating worlds you never will.

So, Commodore Chucky, perhaps it's time you wake up and realize you are
more of a hypocritical problem than a wise solution for this NG. Can you
stop the denigration of fellow boaters? Having met you and experienced
your personal and business ethics, I rather doubt it. And while we're on
this subject, can you imagine Peggy or Bill Granis labeling fellow
contributors as "non-boaters" and engaging them in long political
banter? Can you visualize the Commodore doing so?

--
Skipper


Back to snipping posts to completely distort their meanings, and then
picking a fight based on the distortion? You never cease to amaze me,
Dave. You lie so blatantly (by distorting what others have said) and so
openly that you must have no personal regard for truth at all. (Or you
feel that you're surrounded by such idiots that nobody is likely to
notice). I keep hoping for the recovery of your
mental/physical/emotional health. I don't know that you were ever truly
a "nice guy", but you might ask yourself why so many different people
have commented on the new, not-at-all- improved- but- defintiely-
changed "Skipper" since your return. Hint: It isn't a conspiracy,
really, it isn't.

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wrote in message
ups.com...

*JimH* wrote:
"Don White" wrote in message
...
Don White wrote:
Lord Reginald Smithers wrote:

Kevin,
I think Don was talking about you when he said the worst OT posters
don't own a boat.


Sorry Mr. Smithers.
Everyone here knows I have a Sandpiper 565 sailboat.
I believe he's questioning your mode of water transportation.

Whoops...did I get this backwards?
Anyway...my statement stands and yours is full of hot air.


We know you have a boat Don. How is it you know that Kevin has one?

Hey, Jim, he doesn't know if Kevin has a boat or not. He does, however,
know that I have one. And he knows who I am.....he's brighter than you.

Now, Jim, why in the world won't you answer my simple question to you:

Jim, how come you didn't ask that a few hundred times before you bought

an old runabout?


I did.

Obviously you know nothing of boats if you call a 1997 model *old*.

Got it Kevin? Good.

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Don White wrote:

Truth be known, many of these boaters you view as inferior actually
have much greater and varied boating experiences than yourself. They
have traveled boating worlds you never will.

If you are speaking about yourself..... 'only in your dreams'.
Your wild & wooly stories about the Sea of Cortez outed you.

And Don proves once again that stupid is as stupid does.

--
Skipper

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Skipper wrote:
wrote:

Skipper wrote:
wrote:

One of the challenges this group has faced, for many years, is that it
tends to drive away participants who are actual experts in marine related
fields. Most of the rec.boats crew who own boats own outboard or sterndrive
trailer boats......

And just what is wrong with the contributions from experienced boaters
who own outboard/sterndrive trailerable boats, Chucky? Do you feel their
opinions are not worthy? Are their views less valid than yours? Truth be
known, many of these boaters you view as inferior actually have much
greater and varied boating experiences than yourself. They have traveled
boating worlds you never will.

So, Commodore Chucky, perhaps it's time you wake up and realize you are
more of a hypocritical problem than a wise solution for this NG. Can you
stop the denigration of fellow boaters? Having met you and experienced
your personal and business ethics, I rather doubt it. And while we're on
this subject, can you imagine Peggy or Bill Granis labeling fellow
contributors as "non-boaters" and engaging them in long political
banter? Can you visualize the Commodore doing so?

Back to snipping posts to completely distort their meanings, and then
picking a fight based on the distortion? You never cease to amaze me,
Dave. You lie so blatantly (by distorting what others have said) and so
openly that you must have no personal regard for truth at all... [Balance of vitriol deleted for brevity.]

Interesting that my observations so inflamed you and you were unable to
address directly the questions posed. Could it be yet another case of NG
NPD? Do you really feel holier than thou, Commodore?

--
Skipper

Your "questions" were based on the lie you created when you snipped my
post to claim I was stating that outboard or sterndrive boaters are
somehow "inferior". What's to address, besides your long list of
ridiculous personal responses to a lie that you had to go out of your
way to create?

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On 2 Dec 2005 12:29:24 -0800, wrote:


Skipper wrote:
wrote:

One of the challenges this group has faced, for many years, is that it
tends to drive away participants who are actual experts in marine related
fields. Most of the rec.boats crew who own boats own outboard or sterndrive
trailer boats......

And just what is wrong with the contributions from experienced boaters
who own outboard/sterndrive trailerable boats, Chucky? Do you feel their
opinions are not worthy? Are their views less valid than yours? Truth be
known, many of these boaters you view as inferior actually have much
greater and varied boating experiences than yourself. They have traveled
boating worlds you never will.

So, Commodore Chucky, perhaps it's time you wake up and realize you are
more of a hypocritical problem than a wise solution for this NG. Can you
stop the denigration of fellow boaters? Having met you and experienced
your personal and business ethics, I rather doubt it. And while we're on
this subject, can you imagine Peggy or Bill Granis labeling fellow
contributors as "non-boaters" and engaging them in long political
banter? Can you visualize the Commodore doing so?

--
Skipper


Back to snipping posts to completely distort their meanings, and then
picking a fight based on the distortion? You never cease to amaze me,
Dave. You lie so blatantly (by distorting what others have said) and so
openly that you must have no personal regard for truth at all. (Or you
feel that you're surrounded by such idiots that nobody is likely to
notice). I keep hoping for the recovery of your
mental/physical/emotional health. I don't know that you were ever truly
a "nice guy", but you might ask yourself why so many different people
have commented on the new, not-at-all- improved- but- defintiely-
changed "Skipper" since your return. Hint: It isn't a conspiracy,
really, it isn't.

Why does it bother you when Skipper does it, but causes no reaction
when Harry does the same thing?
--
John H

"It's not a *baby* kicking, beautiful bride, it's just a fetus!"
[A Self-obsessed Hypocrite]

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