You went skeet shooting with a short-barrel cop shotgun? How's your
shoulder? Yeouch!

I'm part of a small group of friends chipping in to buy a buddy who is
retiring soon a new hunting rifle. I don't hunt critters, but the buddy
does, mostly deer. Gives me the willies, but he's a good friend.

You must have the 11-87 mixed up with something else. It's a gas
operated semi automatic fitted with a Briley recoil pad. Very little
recoil. Check this link
http://www.remington.com/products/fi...87_premier.asp

They do make a tactical version but I'm sure the recoil is minimal
with it as well. I do have a Winchester 1300 pump with a short barrel
and pistol grip and there is no doubt in your mind when you've fired
it, especially with 3" shells, but I would never take it to a skeet
range.

Saw your post on rec.guns and I'll have to admit your friend is a
lucky man.. :-) Hope you find what you need for him.