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On Tue, 22 Nov 2005 17:28:56 -0500, " *JimH*" wrote:


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On Tue, 22 Nov 2005 08:23:57 -0500, Harry Krause

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Doug Kanter wrote:
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On 21 Nov 2005 13:53:41 -0800, wrote:

Skipper wrote:
Doug Kanter wrote:

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Sir Rodney Smithers wrote:
"Skipper" wrote:
Wonder if Krause drives A GM product or one o' them oriental
makes?
Krause purchased a Toyota Tundra. I am sure he is completely
responsible
for those 30,000 employees losing their job.
He should be ashamed of himself.
Then bottom line, he and his ilk *are* responsible for those lost
jobs.
Hang on a minute, Scupper. I thought you right wing fags believe
in
personal
responsibility. It sure seems that way when you're slamming the
welfare
system. But now, GM gets a pass because not enough customers want
their
cars?
It's more a red state blue state thingy. Real Americans live in red
states, buy GM or Ford, and support their country. Them leftists
living
in blue states allowed to drive make payments on foreign tinkle
toys.
Bottom line...the Looney Left does not support their country or
traditional American values. They weaken American at every turn.

--
Skipper
That's because righties are lemmings, lefties are not. A right
winger
would buy American no matter what, because they're told to do so. A
left winger would use their brains, and know that some of the
foreign
models are more dependable, and better equipped for less money.
And then bitch about the jobs going overseas.
--
John H

My Tacoma was built in California. IIRC, the engine block came from
Japan,
but Toyota does that to protect my job. It guarantees that the vehicle
will
get me to work many more times than another brand.





I recall reading several years ago that Toyota was planning to
manufacture some of its truck engines in the USA, too, but I haven't
followed that story, so I have no idea whether it took place.

Some of us realize that if the US had a decent program of national
health insurance and pension programs, as most other modern nations do,
our manufacturers would be more competitive.

If we all gave the money to the government, we wouldn't be able to buy
the
products at the prices they'd want anyway.
--
John H

"It's *not* a baby kicking, beautiful bride, it's only a fetus!"

A Famous Hypocrite

I heard this on 700 WLW this morning. The figures are what I recall as
being reported but may be off by a couple of hours:

Average number of hours to produce a car:

Toyota 21 hours
Ford 26 hours
Chrysler 34 hours
GM 38 hours

Add to that the health care coverage and pension giveaways and one wonders
why GM is struggling?


And how badly do the unions fight against robotics?
--
John H



http://tinyurl.com/be4qe

Go figure.

" *JimH*" wrote in message
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"John H." wrote in message
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On Tue, 22 Nov 2005 17:28:56 -0500, " *JimH*" wrote:


"John H." wrote in message
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On Tue, 22 Nov 2005 08:23:57 -0500, Harry Krause

wrote:

Doug Kanter wrote:
"John H." wrote in message
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On 21 Nov 2005 13:53:41 -0800, wrote:

Skipper wrote:
Doug Kanter wrote:

"Skipper" wrote in message
...
Sir Rodney Smithers wrote:
"Skipper" wrote:
Wonder if Krause drives A GM product or one o' them oriental
makes?
Krause purchased a Toyota Tundra. I am sure he is completely
responsible
for those 30,000 employees losing their job.
He should be ashamed of himself.
Then bottom line, he and his ilk *are* responsible for those
lost
jobs.
Hang on a minute, Scupper. I thought you right wing fags believe
in
personal
responsibility. It sure seems that way when you're slamming the
welfare
system. But now, GM gets a pass because not enough customers want
their
cars?
It's more a red state blue state thingy. Real Americans live in
red
states, buy GM or Ford, and support their country. Them leftists
living
in blue states allowed to drive make payments on foreign tinkle
toys.
Bottom line...the Looney Left does not support their country or
traditional American values. They weaken American at every turn.

--
Skipper
That's because righties are lemmings, lefties are not. A right
winger
would buy American no matter what, because they're told to do so. A
left winger would use their brains, and know that some of the
foreign
models are more dependable, and better equipped for less money.
And then bitch about the jobs going overseas.
--
John H

My Tacoma was built in California. IIRC, the engine block came from
Japan,
but Toyota does that to protect my job. It guarantees that the
vehicle
will
get me to work many more times than another brand.





I recall reading several years ago that Toyota was planning to
manufacture some of its truck engines in the USA, too, but I haven't
followed that story, so I have no idea whether it took place.

Some of us realize that if the US had a decent program of national
health insurance and pension programs, as most other modern nations do,
our manufacturers would be more competitive.

If we all gave the money to the government, we wouldn't be able to buy
the
products at the prices they'd want anyway.
--
John H

"It's *not* a baby kicking, beautiful bride, it's only a fetus!"

A Famous Hypocrite

I heard this on 700 WLW this morning. The figures are what I recall as
being reported but may be off by a couple of hours:

Average number of hours to produce a car:

Toyota 21 hours
Ford 26 hours
Chrysler 34 hours
GM 38 hours

Add to that the health care coverage and pension giveaways and one
wonders
why GM is struggling?


And how badly do the unions fight against robotics?
--
John H




http://www.jdpa.com/news/releases/pr...asp?ID=2005088
http://www.toyota-europe.com/about/n...dNews_2005.asp
http://search.japantimes.co.jp/print...20050520a3.htm

Go figure.


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On Tue, 22 Nov 2005 20:42:53 -0500, " *JimH*" wrote:
John H




http://www.jdpa.com/news/releases/pr...asp?ID=2005088
http://www.toyota-europe.com/about/n...dNews_2005.asp
http://search.japantimes.co.jp/print...20050520a3.htm

Go figure.


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I'm surprised at how few problems Jaguar had reported. After owning an
MGB-GT, I thought British cars were little more than maintenance hobbies.
--
John H

"It's *not* a baby kicking, beautiful bride, it's only a fetus!"

A Famous Hypocrite

On Tue, 22 Nov 2005 21:01:17 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Tue, 22 Nov 2005 20:42:53 -0500, " *JimH*" wrote:
John H




http://www.jdpa.com/news/releases/pr...asp?ID=2005088
http://www.toyota-europe.com/about/n...dNews_2005.asp
http://search.japantimes.co.jp/print...20050520a3.htm

Go figure.


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I'm surprised at how few problems Jaguar had reported. After owning an
MGB-GT, I thought British cars were little more than maintenance hobbies.


PS. I wonder where Harry, jps, and bb went after their comeuppance the
bull**** posts about the Ruben Cantu execution?
--
John H

"It's *not* a baby kicking, beautiful bride, it's only a fetus!"

A Famous Hypocrite

John H. wrote:
On Tue, 22 Nov 2005 20:42:53 -0500, " *JimH*" wrote:
John H




http://www.jdpa.com/news/releases/pr...asp?ID=2005088
http://www.toyota-europe.com/about/n...dNews_2005.asp
http://search.japantimes.co.jp/print...20050520a3.htm

Go figure.


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I'm surprised at how few problems Jaguar had reported. After owning an
MGB-GT, I thought British cars were little more than maintenance hobbies.

Jaguar is owned by FORD.

On 23 Nov 2005 06:10:31 -0800, wrote:


John H. wrote:
On Tue, 22 Nov 2005 20:42:53 -0500, " *JimH*" wrote:
John H




http://www.jdpa.com/news/releases/pr...asp?ID=2005088
http://www.toyota-europe.com/about/n...dNews_2005.asp
http://search.japantimes.co.jp/print...20050520a3.htm

Go figure.


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I'm surprised at how few problems Jaguar had reported. After owning an
MGB-GT, I thought British cars were little more than maintenance hobbies.

Jaguar is owned by FORD.

Kevin, did I say anything at all about the ownership of Jaguar?
--
John H

"It's *not* a baby kicking, beautiful bride, it's only a fetus!"

A Famous Hypocrite

wrote:

John H. wrote:

On Tue, 22 Nov 2005 20:42:53 -0500, " *JimH*" wrote:

John H



http://www.jdpa.com/news/releases/pr...asp?ID=2005088
http://www.toyota-europe.com/about/n...dNews_2005.asp
http://search.japantimes.co.jp/print...20050520a3.htm

Go figure.


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I'm surprised at how few problems Jaguar had reported. After owning an
MGB-GT, I thought British cars were little more than maintenance hobbies.


Jaguar is owned by FORD.


And Saab is owned by GM.

What's your point, Kevin?

Neither build boats.

John H. wrote:
On Tue, 22 Nov 2005 20:42:53 -0500, " *JimH*" wrote:
John H




http://www.jdpa.com/news/releases/pr...asp?ID=2005088
http://www.toyota-europe.com/about/n...dNews_2005.asp
http://search.japantimes.co.jp/print...20050520a3.htm

Go figure.


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I'm surprised at how few problems Jaguar had reported. After owning an
MGB-GT, I thought British cars were little more than maintenance hobbies.
--

The good thing about British made cars, is that because they do tend to
be "maintenance hobbies", they are made to work on. The clapped out '66
Triumph TR4A I had in Florida that I never got around to completing,
was always in need of some kind of wrenching, but even things like the
voltage regulator was made to work on, you could adjust the points in
the regulator to determine charge/non-charge rates.

"John H." wrote in message
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On Tue, 22 Nov 2005 20:42:53 -0500, " *JimH*" wrote:
John H




http://www.jdpa.com/news/releases/pr...asp?ID=2005088
http://www.toyota-europe.com/about/n...dNews_2005.asp
http://search.japantimes.co.jp/print...20050520a3.htm

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I'm surprised at how few problems Jaguar had reported. After owning an
MGB-GT, I thought British cars were little more than maintenance hobbies.

A friend's got a 5 yr old Jag. Loves to drive it, but his wife's had to talk
him out of shooting it a few times. The latest bull****: The car's got
sensors to tell the driver when parking & headlights are burned out. The
sensors or the method of installation are defective (which confirms was any
real mechanic will tell you about Brit cars and electrical nightmares). If
it's the sensors that are bad, they're a couple hundred bucks each.
Ridiculous.

On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 16:21:29 +0000, Doug Kanter wrote:


A friend's got a 5 yr old Jag. Loves to drive it, but his wife's had to
talk him out of shooting it a few times. The latest bull****: The car's
got sensors to tell the driver when parking & headlights are burned out.
The sensors or the method of installation are defective (which confirms
was any real mechanic will tell you about Brit cars and electrical
nightmares). If it's the sensors that are bad, they're a couple hundred
bucks each. Ridiculous.

You do know, Jaguar is owned by Ford.

http://www.ford.com/en/company/about/brands/jaguar.htm