"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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*JimH* wrote:

Why are you so concerned about my age? Are you planning on asking me out
on a date? Oh, and why don't you use the income number I provided? Why
are you working so hard to make it sound outlandish? It wasn't, not in
the ad biz in a major market in those days.

You are correct Harry. You said you earned $90,000/year in 1976. In
todays dollars that is $205,000/year.

What is the going rate for a senior account executive in their early to
mid 30's Harry? Does $200,000/year sound a bit over the edge?

As i stated yesterday. the ad agency changed drastically, beginning in the
mid-1980s, and the full-service agency business became less profitable. I
have no idea in any detail what ad agencies pay these days, but a friend
of mine who is in his 30's and working for the DC office of a big NY
agency makes about $150,000 a year. He supervises work on a couple of
large lobbying/PR accounts.

My job title from those days has evolved, too. Today, if I were still in
the biz and working at a big agency, I'd be called either director of
client services or group account supervisor, or some such nonsense.

Another friend who was creative director of a large DC-NY-LA agency was
making about $500,000 a year until he quit two years ago to open his own
industrial film studio.


This link shows the average salary for a senior account executive with an ad
agency to be about $78,000/year with a top end of about $94,000/year.

http://tinyurl.com/ctv7m

Just to be sure I checked again yet could not find any Senior Account
Executive positions with ad agency's offering anything close to and annual
salary of $100,000. Yet you claimed to have made $205,000/year (current
USD) some 30 years ago.

My hats off to you Harry. How did you negotiate such a salary?

JimH,
You are trying to hard at this, there is a reason Harry doesn't allow his
posts to be archived. He has been caught at too many lies to have them
floating around in Google.


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"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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*JimH* wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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Bert Robbins wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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Don White wrote:
Bert Robbins wrote:

Chuck,

Glad you are back safely. You buddy Harry has been having a rough
time this weekend and could use some consoling.

Oh my! Bert sure turned his tail under now that Chuck's back. That
was funny.
The funniest thing about Bert is that he believes he is anything more
than a nitwit. He and the rest of the right-wing low-brain-output
types declare "victory" after "victory" here, but so far, the only
trophy they have won is the the booby prize.

But don't mess with Bert. He earns as much as a government employee.
And now you know that I make more money per year than you do.




Sure, Bertbrain. You make more than I made in the early 1970s. I'm
impressed.

--


Tell us about your job as senior executive in 1976 when you earned
$205,000/year (current USD) Harry. That salary is especially
impressive for one in his 20's.

I was a senior account executive, not a "senior executive." I suppose I
could explain the difference to you, but...why bother, eh? An ad agency
account exec performs a number of duties, including managing the account
services department, determining the need for advertising, and
maintaining the accounts of clients. I also wrote all the copy for my
accounts.

And since you know I was not in my 20's, and have been advised of that at
least a half-dozen times, you're lying when you keep repeating that
mistruth.


If you were in your 30's and making $205,000/year that is equally
impressive.

Let's assume you were 35 in 1976......that would make you 64 now. Are you
that old?

JimH,
Ask Harry about his Rugby career at U of Kansas in the mid 60's.


" *JimH*" wrote in message
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"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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*JimH* wrote:

Why are you so concerned about my age? Are you planning on asking me
out on a date? Oh, and why don't you use the income number I provided?
Why are you working so hard to make it sound outlandish? It wasn't, not
in the ad biz in a major market in those days.

You are correct Harry. You said you earned $90,000/year in 1976. In
todays dollars that is $205,000/year.

What is the going rate for a senior account executive in their early to
mid 30's Harry? Does $200,000/year sound a bit over the edge?

As i stated yesterday. the ad agency changed drastically, beginning in
the mid-1980s, and the full-service agency business became less
profitable. I have no idea in any detail what ad agencies pay these days,
but a friend of mine who is in his 30's and working for the DC office of
a big NY agency makes about $150,000 a year. He supervises work on a
couple of large lobbying/PR accounts.

My job title from those days has evolved, too. Today, if I were still in
the biz and working at a big agency, I'd be called either director of
client services or group account supervisor, or some such nonsense.

Another friend who was creative director of a large DC-NY-LA agency was
making about $500,000 a year until he quit two years ago to open his own
industrial film studio.


This link shows the average salary for a senior account executive with an
ad agency to be about $78,000/year with a top end of about $94,000/year.

http://tinyurl.com/ctv7m

Just to be sure I checked again yet could not find any Senior Account
Executive positions with ad agency's offering anything close to and annual
salary of $100,000. Yet you claimed to have made $205,000/year (current
USD) some 30 years ago.

My hats off to you Harry. How did you negotiate such a salary?

" *JimH*" wrote in message
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"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
*JimH* wrote:

Why are you so concerned about my age? Are you planning on asking me
out on a date? Oh, and why don't you use the income number I provided?
Why are you working so hard to make it sound outlandish? It wasn't, not
in the ad biz in a major market in those days.

You are correct Harry. You said you earned $90,000/year in 1976. In
todays dollars that is $205,000/year.

What is the going rate for a senior account executive in their early to
mid 30's Harry? Does $200,000/year sound a bit over the edge?

As i stated yesterday. the ad agency changed drastically, beginning in
the mid-1980s, and the full-service agency business became less
profitable. I have no idea in any detail what ad agencies pay these days,
but a friend of mine who is in his 30's and working for the DC office of
a big NY agency makes about $150,000 a year. He supervises work on a
couple of large lobbying/PR accounts.

My job title from those days has evolved, too. Today, if I were still in
the biz and working at a big agency, I'd be called either director of
client services or group account supervisor, or some such nonsense.

Another friend who was creative director of a large DC-NY-LA agency was
making about $500,000 a year until he quit two years ago to open his own
industrial film studio.


This link shows the average salary for a senior account executive with an
ad agency to be about $78,000/year with a top end of about $94,000/year.

http://tinyurl.com/ctv7m

Just to be sure I checked again yet could not find any Senior Account
Executive positions with ad agency's offering anything close to an annual
salary of $100,000. Yet you claimed to have made $205,000/year (current
USD) some 30 years ago.

My hats off to you Harry. How did you negotiate such a salary?

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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*JimH* wrote:
" *JimH*" wrote in message
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"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
*JimH* wrote:
Why are you so concerned about my age? Are you planning on asking me
out on a date? Oh, and why don't you use the income number I
provided? Why are you working so hard to make it sound outlandish? It
wasn't, not in the ad biz in a major market in those days.
You are correct Harry. You said you earned $90,000/year in 1976. In
todays dollars that is $205,000/year.

What is the going rate for a senior account executive in their early
to mid 30's Harry? Does $200,000/year sound a bit over the edge?
As i stated yesterday. the ad agency changed drastically, beginning in
the mid-1980s, and the full-service agency business became less
profitable. I have no idea in any detail what ad agencies pay these
days, but a friend of mine who is in his 30's and working for the DC
office of a big NY agency makes about $150,000 a year. He supervises
work on a couple of large lobbying/PR accounts.

My job title from those days has evolved, too. Today, if I were still
in the biz and working at a big agency, I'd be called either director
of client services or group account supervisor, or some such nonsense.

Another friend who was creative director of a large DC-NY-LA agency was
making about $500,000 a year until he quit two years ago to open his
own industrial film studio.

This link shows the average salary for a senior account executive with
an ad agency to be about $78,000/year with a top end of about
$94,000/year.

http://tinyurl.com/ctv7m

Just to be sure I checked again yet could not find any Senior Account
Executive positions with ad agency's offering anything close to an
annual salary of $100,000. Yet you claimed to have made $205,000/year
(current USD) some 30 years ago.

My hats off to you Harry. How did you negotiate such a salary?








And once again, you are straining to reach conclusions.

--
You were right, it's all abut character. Impeach Bush Now.

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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*JimH* wrote:
" *JimH*" wrote in message
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"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
*JimH* wrote:
Why are you so concerned about my age? Are you planning on asking me
out on a date? Oh, and why don't you use the income number I
provided? Why are you working so hard to make it sound outlandish? It
wasn't, not in the ad biz in a major market in those days.
You are correct Harry. You said you earned $90,000/year in 1976. In
todays dollars that is $205,000/year.

What is the going rate for a senior account executive in their early
to mid 30's Harry? Does $200,000/year sound a bit over the edge?
As i stated yesterday. the ad agency changed drastically, beginning in
the mid-1980s, and the full-service agency business became less
profitable. I have no idea in any detail what ad agencies pay these
days, but a friend of mine who is in his 30's and working for the DC
office of a big NY agency makes about $150,000 a year. He supervises
work on a couple of large lobbying/PR accounts.

My job title from those days has evolved, too. Today, if I were still
in the biz and working at a big agency, I'd be called either director
of client services or group account supervisor, or some such nonsense.

Another friend who was creative director of a large DC-NY-LA agency was
making about $500,000 a year until he quit two years ago to open his
own industrial film studio.

This link shows the average salary for a senior account executive with
an ad agency to be about $78,000/year with a top end of about
$94,000/year.

http://tinyurl.com/ctv7m

Just to be sure I checked again yet could not find any Senior Account
Executive positions with ad agency's offering anything close to an
annual salary of $100,000. Yet you claimed to have made $205,000/year
(current USD) some 30 years ago.

My hats off to you Harry. How did you negotiate such a salary?








And once again, you are straining to reach conclusions.


Nope. I provided proof of my claims, something you never do.

But we believe you Harry and my hats off to you. ;-)

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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*JimH* wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
*JimH* wrote:
Why are you so concerned about my age? Are you planning on asking me
out on a date? Oh, and why don't you use the income number I provided?
Why are you working so hard to make it sound outlandish? It wasn't,
not in the ad biz in a major market in those days.
You are correct Harry. You said you earned $90,000/year in 1976. In
todays dollars that is $205,000/year.

What is the going rate for a senior account executive in their early to
mid 30's Harry? Does $200,000/year sound a bit over the edge?
As i stated yesterday. the ad agency changed drastically, beginning in
the mid-1980s, and the full-service agency business became less
profitable. I have no idea in any detail what ad agencies pay these
days, but a friend of mine who is in his 30's and working for the DC
office of a big NY agency makes about $150,000 a year. He supervises
work on a couple of large lobbying/PR accounts.

My job title from those days has evolved, too. Today, if I were still in
the biz and working at a big agency, I'd be called either director of
client services or group account supervisor, or some such nonsense.

Another friend who was creative director of a large DC-NY-LA agency was
making about $500,000 a year until he quit two years ago to open his own
industrial film studio.


This link shows the average salary for a senior account executive with an
ad agency to be about $78,000/year with a top end of about $94,000/year.

http://tinyurl.com/ctv7m

Just to be sure I checked again yet could not find any Senior Account
Executive positions with ad agency's offering anything close to and
annual salary of $100,000. Yet you claimed to have made $205,000/year
(current USD) some 30 years ago.

My hats off to you Harry. How did you negotiate such a salary?


I suggest you look at "large" advertising agencies. Those are the ones I
worked for in those days.

Here, I found a link for you. Look at the "large" agencies.

http://www.marketingmag.ca/images/XT...gency_size.pdf




Nice link but could you show me where a 35 year old would be making
$205,000/year as a Senior Account Executive with an Ad Agency?

My links show the top end to be in the mid $90,000.

You are a remarkable person to have demanded a salary of $205,000 (today's
USD) as the ripe age of 35.

Nice going Harry.

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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*JimH* wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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Bert Robbins wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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Don White wrote:
Bert Robbins wrote:

Chuck,

Glad you are back safely. You buddy Harry has been having a rough
time this weekend and could use some consoling.

Oh my! Bert sure turned his tail under now that Chuck's back. That
was funny.
The funniest thing about Bert is that he believes he is anything more
than a nitwit. He and the rest of the right-wing low-brain-output
types declare "victory" after "victory" here, but so far, the only
trophy they have won is the the booby prize.

But don't mess with Bert. He earns as much as a government employee.
And now you know that I make more money per year than you do.




Sure, Bertbrain. You make more than I made in the early 1970s. I'm
impressed.

--


Tell us about your job as senior executive in 1976 when you earned
$205,000/year (current USD) Harry. That salary is especially impressive
for one in his 20's.

I was a senior account executive, not a "senior executive." I suppose I
could explain the difference to you, but...why bother, eh? An ad agency
account exec performs a number of duties, including managing the account
services department, determining the need for advertising, and maintaining
the accounts of clients. I also wrote all the copy for my accounts.

And since you know I was not in my 20's, and have been advised of that at
least a half-dozen times, you're lying when you keep repeating that
mistruth.

When are you going to say that you earn more money than me today?

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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*JimH* wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
*JimH* wrote:
" *JimH*" wrote in message
...
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
*JimH* wrote:
Why are you so concerned about my age? Are you planning on asking
me out on a date? Oh, and why don't you use the income number I
provided? Why are you working so hard to make it sound outlandish?
It wasn't, not in the ad biz in a major market in those days.
You are correct Harry. You said you earned $90,000/year in 1976.
In todays dollars that is $205,000/year.

What is the going rate for a senior account executive in their early
to mid 30's Harry? Does $200,000/year sound a bit over the edge?
As i stated yesterday. the ad agency changed drastically, beginning
in the mid-1980s, and the full-service agency business became less
profitable. I have no idea in any detail what ad agencies pay these
days, but a friend of mine who is in his 30's and working for the DC
office of a big NY agency makes about $150,000 a year. He supervises
work on a couple of large lobbying/PR accounts.

My job title from those days has evolved, too. Today, if I were still
in the biz and working at a big agency, I'd be called either director
of client services or group account supervisor, or some such
nonsense.

Another friend who was creative director of a large DC-NY-LA agency
was making about $500,000 a year until he quit two years ago to open
his own industrial film studio.
This link shows the average salary for a senior account executive with
an ad agency to be about $78,000/year with a top end of about
$94,000/year.

http://tinyurl.com/ctv7m

Just to be sure I checked again yet could not find any Senior Account
Executive positions with ad agency's offering anything close to an
annual salary of $100,000. Yet you claimed to have made
$205,000/year (current USD) some 30 years ago.

My hats off to you Harry. How did you negotiate such a salary?






And once again, you are straining to reach conclusions.


Nope. I provided proof of my claims, something you never do.

But we believe you Harry and my hats off to you. ;-)

You provided a chart. There are many charts. The one I provided shows
salaries for large ad agencies, not "median" salaries.

Try harder. Try thinking. Even if it really hurts.



Yep, a chart.

We believe you Harry. We really do.

You are da' man.

I may be able to generate statistics for Harry's posts for the last two
years. I will be able to show hourly within each day and daily within each
week and weekly. The process of gathering the raw data is slowed since Harry
narc'd on my with Google last time I did this and they reduced the number of
articles you can return from a search and during each day.

The data gathering continues.

"Sir Rodney Smithers" Ask me about my knighthood. wrote in message
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JimH,
You are trying to hard at this, there is a reason Harry doesn't allow his
posts to be archived. He has been caught at too many lies to have them
floating around in Google.


" *JimH*" wrote in message
...

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
*JimH* wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Bert Robbins wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Don White wrote:
Bert Robbins wrote:

Chuck,

Glad you are back safely. You buddy Harry has been having a rough
time this weekend and could use some consoling.

Oh my! Bert sure turned his tail under now that Chuck's back.
That was funny.
The funniest thing about Bert is that he believes he is anything
more than a nitwit. He and the rest of the right-wing
low-brain-output types declare "victory" after "victory" here, but
so far, the only trophy they have won is the the booby prize.

But don't mess with Bert. He earns as much as a government employee.
And now you know that I make more money per year than you do.




Sure, Bertbrain. You make more than I made in the early 1970s. I'm
impressed.

--


Tell us about your job as senior executive in 1976 when you earned
$205,000/year (current USD) Harry. That salary is especially
impressive for one in his 20's.

I was a senior account executive, not a "senior executive." I suppose I
could explain the difference to you, but...why bother, eh? An ad agency
account exec performs a number of duties, including managing the account
services department, determining the need for advertising, and
maintaining the accounts of clients. I also wrote all the copy for my
accounts.

And since you know I was not in my 20's, and have been advised of that
at least a half-dozen times, you're lying when you keep repeating that
mistruth.


If you were in your 30's and making $205,000/year that is equally
impressive.

Let's assume you were 35 in 1976......that would make you 64 now. Are
you that old?