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![]() Tamaroak wrote: I recently read something about adding the used oil from your crankcase (20 quarts from my engine) to your diesel tanks to burn up, thus saving the purchase of five gallons of fuel and eliminating the problem of disposal. I would be diluting it into 320 gallons of fuel. Is this common? Capt. Jeff The better practice would be to save the used oil and take it to a recycling station. On a long voyage, you may wind up with a few 10-gallon containers of used oil. Pouring the used oil into your fuel tank *will* work, but why introduce all those contaminants into the fuel system? |
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![]() Tamaroak wrote: I recently read something about adding the used oil from your crankcase (20 quarts from my engine) to your diesel tanks to burn up, thus saving the purchase of five gallons of fuel and eliminating the problem of disposal. I would be diluting it into 320 gallons of fuel. Is this common? Capt. Jeff Wouldn't have been a problem in older diesels, but I wouldn't do it with the new high output types, with high pressure fuel delivery, etc |
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Lots of opinions with little in the way of facts.
The practice of burning used diesel engine crankcase oil as fuel has been popular with fleet users for many years. The main caution is that the oil must not have been contaminated by coolant. The practice will not void the warranties of any of the major engine manufacturers. The lube oil is burned completely and, BTW, has a higher BTU content than fuel oil. The process should be done carefully in order not to "over oil" the fuel. Racor, the filter manufacturer, used to sell a system for the purpose. I bought several for a fleet of large EMD, Cummins, and CAT generators. The systems made us a lot of money by saving the cost of disposal of used lube oil and avoiding the cost of thousands of gallons of fuel oil. The Racor kits were in several sizes to accomodate small to large applications. I don't know if Racor continues to market the systems. Butch wrote in message oups.com... Tamaroak wrote: I recently read something about adding the used oil from your crankcase (20 quarts from my engine) to your diesel tanks to burn up, thus saving the purchase of five gallons of fuel and eliminating the problem of disposal. I would be diluting it into 320 gallons of fuel. Is this common? Capt. Jeff Wouldn't have been a problem in older diesels, but I wouldn't do it with the new high output types, with high pressure fuel delivery, etc |
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But weren't these mostly mechanical fuel injection?
"Butch Davis" wrote in message ink.net... Lots of opinions with little in the way of facts. The practice of burning used diesel engine crankcase oil as fuel has been popular with fleet users for many years. The main caution is that the oil must not have been contaminated by coolant. The practice will not void the warranties of any of the major engine manufacturers. The lube oil is burned completely and, BTW, has a higher BTU content than fuel oil. The process should be done carefully in order not to "over oil" the fuel. Racor, the filter manufacturer, used to sell a system for the purpose. I bought several for a fleet of large EMD, Cummins, and CAT generators. The systems made us a lot of money by saving the cost of disposal of used lube oil and avoiding the cost of thousands of gallons of fuel oil. The Racor kits were in several sizes to accomodate small to large applications. I don't know if Racor continues to market the systems. Butch wrote in message oups.com... Tamaroak wrote: I recently read something about adding the used oil from your crankcase (20 quarts from my engine) to your diesel tanks to burn up, thus saving the purchase of five gallons of fuel and eliminating the problem of disposal. I would be diluting it into 320 gallons of fuel. Is this common? Capt. Jeff Wouldn't have been a problem in older diesels, but I wouldn't do it with the new high output types, with high pressure fuel delivery, etc |
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Bill,
I'm not sure I understand your question. But, all diesel fuel injection systems are mechanical. They are also hydraulic. New systems use digitial electronics to more perfectly control the hydraulic/mechanical action to more perfectly inject the precise quantity of fuel required at the precise time it is required. This serves to more completely burn the fuel and to eliminate the unburned hydrocarbons so problematic with older poorly maintained systems. The byproduct of these improved systems is vastly improved fuel economy and improved longevity of engine upper deck components. I continue to advocate recycling used diesel engine lube oil as fuel. YMMV. Butch "Bill McKee" wrote in message nk.net... But weren't these mostly mechanical fuel injection? "Butch Davis" wrote in message ink.net... Lots of opinions with little in the way of facts. The practice of burning used diesel engine crankcase oil as fuel has been popular with fleet users for many years. The main caution is that the oil must not have been contaminated by coolant. The practice will not void the warranties of any of the major engine manufacturers. The lube oil is burned completely and, BTW, has a higher BTU content than fuel oil. The process should be done carefully in order not to "over oil" the fuel. Racor, the filter manufacturer, used to sell a system for the purpose. I bought several for a fleet of large EMD, Cummins, and CAT generators. The systems made us a lot of money by saving the cost of disposal of used lube oil and avoiding the cost of thousands of gallons of fuel oil. The Racor kits were in several sizes to accomodate small to large applications. I don't know if Racor continues to market the systems. Butch wrote in message oups.com... Tamaroak wrote: I recently read something about adding the used oil from your crankcase (20 quarts from my engine) to your diesel tanks to burn up, thus saving the purchase of five gallons of fuel and eliminating the problem of disposal. I would be diluting it into 320 gallons of fuel. Is this common? Capt. Jeff Wouldn't have been a problem in older diesels, but I wouldn't do it with the new high output types, with high pressure fuel delivery, etc |
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Butch, how do you filter it before adding it to the fuel?
John "Butch Davis" wrote in message ink.net... Bill, I'm not sure I understand your question. But, all diesel fuel injection systems are mechanical. They are also hydraulic. New systems use digitial electronics to more perfectly control the hydraulic/mechanical action to more perfectly inject the precise quantity of fuel required at the precise time it is required. This serves to more completely burn the fuel and to eliminate the unburned hydrocarbons so problematic with older poorly maintained systems. The byproduct of these improved systems is vastly improved fuel economy and improved longevity of engine upper deck components. I continue to advocate recycling used diesel engine lube oil as fuel. YMMV. Butch "Bill McKee" wrote in message nk.net... But weren't these mostly mechanical fuel injection? "Butch Davis" wrote in message ink.net... Lots of opinions with little in the way of facts. The practice of burning used diesel engine crankcase oil as fuel has been popular with fleet users for many years. The main caution is that the oil must not have been contaminated by coolant. The practice will not void the warranties of any of the major engine manufacturers. The lube oil is burned completely and, BTW, has a higher BTU content than fuel oil. The process should be done carefully in order not to "over oil" the fuel. Racor, the filter manufacturer, used to sell a system for the purpose. I bought several for a fleet of large EMD, Cummins, and CAT generators. The systems made us a lot of money by saving the cost of disposal of used lube oil and avoiding the cost of thousands of gallons of fuel oil. The Racor kits were in several sizes to accomodate small to large applications. I don't know if Racor continues to market the systems. Butch wrote in message oups.com... Tamaroak wrote: I recently read something about adding the used oil from your crankcase (20 quarts from my engine) to your diesel tanks to burn up, thus saving the purchase of five gallons of fuel and eliminating the problem of disposal. I would be diluting it into 320 gallons of fuel. Is this common? Capt. Jeff Wouldn't have been a problem in older diesels, but I wouldn't do it with the new high output types, with high pressure fuel delivery, etc |
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All diesel inject is not mechanical. The new engines, like my Duramax or
Eisbocks Ford 6.0 are electronic FI. There is a high pressure, precision pump that generates the high fuel pressure to a single fuel block, the single rail. The Electronics pull the solenoid and allow a precise amount of fuel to inject. My duramax does 3 shots per power stroke. The old Detroit Diesels, etc had a mechanical piston to inject the fuel. You adjusted the "Racks" to get the best fuel burn on average. Was to early at idle, why lots of rattle (pinging) at low RPM's. Probably bigger jets in the injector also. Only one shot per power stroke. The new pumps will be close tolerance and smaller holes in the injectors. You would have to save a lot of money on diesel to pay for the repair of either the pump or the injector. Lots more for the pump. "Butch Davis" wrote in message ink.net... Bill, I'm not sure I understand your question. But, all diesel fuel injection systems are mechanical. They are also hydraulic. New systems use digitial electronics to more perfectly control the hydraulic/mechanical action to more perfectly inject the precise quantity of fuel required at the precise time it is required. This serves to more completely burn the fuel and to eliminate the unburned hydrocarbons so problematic with older poorly maintained systems. The byproduct of these improved systems is vastly improved fuel economy and improved longevity of engine upper deck components. I continue to advocate recycling used diesel engine lube oil as fuel. YMMV. Butch "Bill McKee" wrote in message nk.net... But weren't these mostly mechanical fuel injection? "Butch Davis" wrote in message ink.net... Lots of opinions with little in the way of facts. The practice of burning used diesel engine crankcase oil as fuel has been popular with fleet users for many years. The main caution is that the oil must not have been contaminated by coolant. The practice will not void the warranties of any of the major engine manufacturers. The lube oil is burned completely and, BTW, has a higher BTU content than fuel oil. The process should be done carefully in order not to "over oil" the fuel. Racor, the filter manufacturer, used to sell a system for the purpose. I bought several for a fleet of large EMD, Cummins, and CAT generators. The systems made us a lot of money by saving the cost of disposal of used lube oil and avoiding the cost of thousands of gallons of fuel oil. The Racor kits were in several sizes to accomodate small to large applications. I don't know if Racor continues to market the systems. Butch wrote in message oups.com... Tamaroak wrote: I recently read something about adding the used oil from your crankcase (20 quarts from my engine) to your diesel tanks to burn up, thus saving the purchase of five gallons of fuel and eliminating the problem of disposal. I would be diluting it into 320 gallons of fuel. Is this common? Capt. Jeff Wouldn't have been a problem in older diesels, but I wouldn't do it with the new high output types, with high pressure fuel delivery, etc |
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Many have commented and I would normally would be willing to mix the lub oil
with a high ratio of fuel oil. However, I have always been able to take my lub oil ashore/home for disposal. Now I burn all of my waste oil in my shop heater. I have an old Dickenson cabin heater and when mixed with some diesel, it burns fine. I'm now building a waste oil heater for my new shop, from a Mother Earth design. It will only consume about 1 qt/hr and provide about 30k btu. No diesel required. In this design, the fuel feed is preheated and the fire will burn hot and clean without soot or smoke. Just my thoughts, FWIW. Steve s/v Good Intentions "Tamaroak" wrote in message . .. I recently read something about adding the used oil from your crankcase (20 quarts from my engine) to your diesel tanks to burn up, thus saving the purchase of five gallons of fuel and eliminating the problem of disposal. I would be diluting it into 320 gallons of fuel. Is this common? Capt. Jeff |
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