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Harry,
Why do you automatically believe everyone else would also lie about their
boat ownership? I would guess that you are the only person in rec.boats who
does fabricate fictitious boats to impress people in UseNet. You used to
say JimH really didn't buy a new runabout, now you think Skipper never owned
a Bayliner. You seem to do way to much " projecting"

No one else needs to boost a damaged weak ego, so they do not have to
pretend they own pretend boats.

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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jps wrote:
In article , says...
Harry Krause wrote:

Try to find something you know and entertain us with that, eh?
Certainly. Let's talk lobsta boats.

What would you know about lobster boats?

Ever own anything other than a bayliner?

jps

It's questionable whether he ever owned that Bayliner. For some time, he
bragged about taking long voyages in that little boat, until it was
pointed out that its fuel tank didn't provide much range. Then he
portmanteaued on those jerry cans, and started discussing multiday trips
out of the sight of shore.

Of course, to get to those waters, he had to pull a boat trailer close t
1500 miles.

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On Fri, 04 Nov 2005 19:35:33 +0000, NOYB wrote:


Libby said something that blatantly contradicted Russert's testimony. One
of them is lying about that conversation. The indictment suggests that it
was Libby who lied...but the trial should show where the truth really
lies.

I'm starting to worry about you, NOYB. You are losing touch with
reality. You have read the indictment. Libby not only contradicted
Russert, but Cheney, a senior CIA officer, the Under Secretary of State, a
CIA briefer, Judith Miller, the White House Press Secretary, the Assistant
to the Vice President for Public Affairs, and the Counsel to the Office of
the Vice President, and that is only on one of the counts in the
indictment.

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On Fri, 04 Nov 2005 14:48:54 -0500, P Fritz wrote:


Yeah......try remembering the order and content of your conversations from
a year ago.........

If he couldn't remember, he wouldn't have been charged. He was charged
with "remembering" things that did not happen.

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On Fri, 04 Nov 2005 11:27:54 -0800, jps wrote:


And there was no "outing" of a CIA agent either.

You, again, prove what an uninformed pea brain you are.

Valerie Plame was working in a company that was purposefully set up to
provide cover for a handful of CIA agents. Her specialty was WMDs.

Not only was her cover blown but the cover of all her associates in that
company were blown. The outing ruined several people's careers.

The hell with careers, lives may have been lost, and we won't know it for
some time. The CIA hasn't done it's risk assessment yet, but it is a
guarantee that the bad guys are doing a database search on Valerie Plame,
and Brewster, Jennings. Plame is safe, and hopefully our other CIA agents
are also, but what about their foreign assets? It is quite possible
people have died because of this leaking.

That's treasonous.

Libby, Rove and Cheney should be keel hauled somewhere around where the
Republicans were going to build the bridge to nowhere. During December.

jps

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"thunder" wrote in message
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On Fri, 04 Nov 2005 19:35:33 +0000, NOYB wrote:


Libby said something that blatantly contradicted Russert's testimony.
One
of them is lying about that conversation. The indictment suggests that
it
was Libby who lied...but the trial should show where the truth really
lies.

I'm starting to worry about you, NOYB. You are losing touch with
reality. You have read the indictment. Libby not only contradicted
Russert, but Cheney, a senior CIA officer, the Under Secretary of State, a
CIA briefer, Judith Miller, the White House Press Secretary, the Assistant
to the Vice President for Public Affairs, and the Counsel to the Office of
the Vice President, and that is only on one of the counts in the
indictment.

So, you've seen the secret GJ testimony? All you have in the indictment is
what Fitzgerald wants you to see.

Tim Russert, NBC's Wash.D.C Beaureu Chief, is contradicted by his on staff
on NBC Wash.D.C. correspondent that had a report published saying that every
one in DC knew Wilson's wife, Plame, worked at the CIA.

10 years ago I thought Russert to be a moderate, 5 years ago he started to
show left-wing leanings and today he has joined the left-wing of the
Democratic party.

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"thunder" wrote in message
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On Fri, 04 Nov 2005 11:27:54 -0800, jps wrote:


And there was no "outing" of a CIA agent either.

You, again, prove what an uninformed pea brain you are.

Valerie Plame was working in a company that was purposefully set up to
provide cover for a handful of CIA agents. Her specialty was WMDs.

Not only was her cover blown but the cover of all her associates in that
company were blown. The outing ruined several people's careers.

The hell with careers, lives may have been lost, and we won't know it for
some time. The CIA hasn't done it's risk assessment yet, but it is a
guarantee that the bad guys are doing a database search on Valerie Plame,
and Brewster, Jennings. Plame is safe, and hopefully our other CIA agents
are also, but what about their foreign assets? It is quite possible
people have died because of this leaking.

What about the covert CIA agent Sen. Kerry outed a few months ago. Are you
going to have him brought up on charges too? If not, then your bias is
showing.

That's treasonous.

Libby, Rove and Cheney should be keel hauled somewhere around where the
Republicans were going to build the bridge to nowhere. During December.

jps

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"jps" wrote in message
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In article ,
says...

"Skipper" wrote in message
...
jps wrote:

Skipper says...
bb wrote:

Obstruction for What?
Libby is charged with lying about a crime that wasn't committed.

Last I checked a bj wasn't a crime.

Many prostitutes wish it were so.

That's right Snippy. Clearly, you've never had sex you haven't had to
pay for.

Last I heard Monica didn't charge, unlike your wife.

Clearly? Now if that's an example of a Dem's cognitive skills, it's no
wonder they're so screwed.

It's funny - your wife disagrees with most of what you say about
Democrats.
Why, just this morning, I rolled off of her, we shared some strawberries
dipped in melted chocolate, and we started discussing politics. I'll bet
you
have no idea what she says about you while you're out at Victoria's
Secret,
gettin' yourself a new supply of panties.

Oh man, that's rich. Thanks for the hearty laugh.

jps

He's probably gonna report me to my ISP now. I'll be obsessing about this
for a minute.

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"NOYB" wrote in message
ink.net...

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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jps wrote:
In article . net,
says...
"jps" wrote in message
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His testimony doesn't square with his own notes, contemporaneously
recorded when Cheney told him about Valerie Plame.
He testified that Russert told him about Plame...not the other way
around.

And his notes show that Cheney told him about Plame at least several
weeks prior to Russert.

He also testified that he told Russert that he didn't know it to be
true
or not. Did he lie to Russert? Perhaps.

Who care? Folks in this administration lie all the time.

Did he lie to Fitzgerald? Maybe

Oh yeah. Sho enoff.

not. But is it a crime to lie to a news reporter?

No, and he's not being charged for lying to a news reporter. He's
being
charged for lying to the investigators of the leak.

Especially a reporter who is fishing for a story by pretending to
know
the answer to the questions he's asking?

Oh jeez, Scooter went to college and became a lawyer. He's been at
the
top of his game for quite some time. You feel sorry for him because a
reporter asked him leading questions?

Whew.

I expect our president is that stupid but not the folks surrounding
him.

jps


What is sad is that Libby is taking a fall for Cheney.

Libby is taking a fall because an insidious cabal of folks from the CIA,
State Dept. and news media decided that they didn't agree with Bush's
policies and took it upon themselves to destabilize his administration.

My prediction: Libby walks.

Yeah.....as soon as Libby's lawyer starts issuing subpeonas. :-)

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I see the liebrals are drinking the koolaid by the gallon

"Bert Robbins" wrote in message
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"thunder" wrote in message
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On Fri, 04 Nov 2005 11:27:54 -0800, jps wrote:


And there was no "outing" of a CIA agent either.

You, again, prove what an uninformed pea brain you are.

Valerie Plame was working in a company that was purposefully set up to
provide cover for a handful of CIA agents. Her specialty was WMDs.

Not only was her cover blown but the cover of all her associates in
that
company were blown. The outing ruined several people's careers.

The hell with careers, lives may have been lost, and we won't know it
for
some time. The CIA hasn't done it's risk assessment yet, but it is a
guarantee that the bad guys are doing a database search on Valerie
Plame,
and Brewster, Jennings. Plame is safe, and hopefully our other CIA
agents
are also, but what about their foreign assets? It is quite possible
people have died because of this leaking.

What about the covert CIA agent Sen. Kerry outed a few months ago. Are
you
going to have him brought up on charges too? If not, then your bias is
showing.

That's treasonous.

Libby, Rove and Cheney should be keel hauled somewhere around where
the
Republicans were going to build the bridge to nowhere. During
December.

jps

OT--Charged with lying about a crime that wasn't committed?
 

On Sat, 05 Nov 2005 08:43:47 -0500, Bert Robbins wrote:


"thunder" wrote in message
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On Fri, 04 Nov 2005 19:35:33 +0000, NOYB wrote:


Libby said something that blatantly contradicted Russert's testimony.
One
of them is lying about that conversation. The indictment suggests that
it
was Libby who lied...but the trial should show where the truth really
lies.

I'm starting to worry about you, NOYB. You are losing touch with
reality. You have read the indictment. Libby not only contradicted
Russert, but Cheney, a senior CIA officer, the Under Secretary of State,
a CIA briefer, Judith Miller, the White House Press Secretary, the
Assistant to the Vice President for Public Affairs, and the Counsel to
the Office of the Vice President, and that is only on one of the counts
in the indictment.

So, you've seen the secret GJ testimony? All you have in the indictment is
what Fitzgerald wants you to see.

That's right, and all of the above was in the indictment. It is *not* a
case of Libby's work against Russert's. It is a case of Libby's word
against *all* of those other sources. The only thing NOYB said that was
accurate was, "the trial should show where the truth really lies". That
is, if there is a trial.


Tim Russert, NBC's Wash.D.C Beaureu Chief, is contradicted by his on staff
on NBC Wash.D.C. correspondent that had a report published saying that
every one in DC knew Wilson's wife, Plame, worked at the CIA.

10 years ago I thought Russert to be a moderate, 5 years ago he started to
show left-wing leanings and today he has joined the left-wing of the
Democratic party.