OT--Charged with lying about a crime that wasn't committed?
 

"jps" wrote in message
...
In article . net,
says...

"jps" wrote in message
...

His testimony doesn't square with his own notes, contemporaneously
recorded when Cheney told him about Valerie Plame.

He testified that Russert told him about Plame...not the other way
around.

And his notes show that Cheney told him about Plame at least several
weeks prior to Russert.

So? He did not testify that he hadn't heard it before. He said that he
could not recall where he first heard it. But he's not being charged for
forgetting where he heard it. He's being charged for obstruction of justice
and perjury because he told the FBI and grand jury that Russert first
mentioned Plame to him...not the other way around.





He also testified that he told Russert that he didn't know it to be true
or
not. Did he lie to Russert? Perhaps.

Who care? Folks in this administration lie all the time.

Lying to reporters that have it in for you is not really lying. It's just a
technique for throwing the hyenas off the scent.




Did he lie to Fitzgerald? Maybe

Oh yeah. Sho enoff.

It's amazing that you can conclude that without seeing any of the Grand jury
evidence and without a trial. And I thought you liberals were concerned
about civil rights and due process and all that stuff.



not. But is it a crime to lie to a news reporter?

No, and he's not being charged for lying to a news reporter. He's being
charged for lying to the investigators of the leak.

Like I said, if you read the indictment, the perjury charges stem from what
he told the FBI and the grand jury about his conversation with Russert, and
what Russert told the Grand Jury. Perhaps Russert is lying.





Especially a reporter who
is fishing for a story by pretending to know the answer to the questions
he's asking?

Oh jeez, Scooter went to college and became a lawyer. He's been at the
top of his game for quite some time. You feel sorry for him because a
reporter asked him leading questions?

Libby knew what Russert was doing, and that's why he neither confirmed nor
denied Russerts claim that "all the media knew" Wilson's wife was with CIA.
Of course, Libby never counted on Russert lying to a grand jury about their
conversation.

OT--Charged with lying about a crime that wasn't committed?
 

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
jps wrote:
In article . net,
says...
"jps" wrote in message
...

His testimony doesn't square with his own notes, contemporaneously
recorded when Cheney told him about Valerie Plame.
He testified that Russert told him about Plame...not the other way
around.

And his notes show that Cheney told him about Plame at least several
weeks prior to Russert.

He also testified that he told Russert that he didn't know it to be true
or not. Did he lie to Russert? Perhaps.

Who care? Folks in this administration lie all the time.

Did he lie to Fitzgerald? Maybe

Oh yeah. Sho enoff.

not. But is it a crime to lie to a news reporter?

No, and he's not being charged for lying to a news reporter. He's being
charged for lying to the investigators of the leak.

Especially a reporter who is fishing for a story by pretending to know
the answer to the questions he's asking?

Oh jeez, Scooter went to college and became a lawyer. He's been at the
top of his game for quite some time. You feel sorry for him because a
reporter asked him leading questions?

Whew.

I expect our president is that stupid but not the folks surrounding him.

jps


What is sad is that Libby is taking a fall for Cheney.

Libby is taking a fall because an insidious cabal of folks from the CIA,
State Dept. and news media decided that they didn't agree with Bush's
policies and took it upon themselves to destabilize his administration.

My prediction: Libby walks.

OT--Charged with lying about a crime that wasn't committed?
 

In article ,
says...
jps wrote:
In article , PocoLoco415
@hotmail.com says...
On Fri, 4 Nov 2005 13:00:53 -0800, jps wrote:

In article ,
says...

Yeah......try remembering the order and content of your conversations from a
year ago.........
Pinhead,

He had copies of notes that he turned over. Don't you think he was
smart enough to have a look at them before testifying?

Either he didn't think the investigators were smart enough to find the
evidence in his notes or he was purposefully lying to protect his boss.

Either way, the cocksucker lied.

In your book, that means he's a liberal, right?

jps
Now you're throwing 'cocksucker' into the fray. My gosh, what do you guys do
with each other?

It's a Deadwood thing. Ever watch it? Brilliant writing. Lots of
cussing. Favorite word around town is cocksucker.

If you haven't seen it, the first and second seasons are out on DVD.
Incredibly well done with a great cast.

jps


Jim Beaver, a first-rate fellow and actor who has a role in Deadwood
(Ellsworth), posts frequently in the alt.obituaries newsgroup. His late
wife appeared on Star Trek frequently, and his father in law was the
wonderful Don Adams.

Love Ellsworth. He had a great vibe when he first appeared and doesn't
ever disappoint. First time I saw it I was totally taken aback.
Watched the full episode and was hooked. Doesn't happen to me much.

Watched the first season on tape from my brother, two episodes a night.
It was like feasting on a rich meal. I was giddy with delight with the
clever dialogue, great characters and gritty setting.

I've been calling my friends cocksuckers ever since. "Feed him to to
the pigs!!!" Love reliving the scenes with other Deadwood junkies.

jps

OT--Charged with lying about a crime that wasn't committed?
 

In article . net,
says...

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
jps wrote:
In article . net,
says...
"jps" wrote in message
...

His testimony doesn't square with his own notes, contemporaneously
recorded when Cheney told him about Valerie Plame.
He testified that Russert told him about Plame...not the other way
around.

And his notes show that Cheney told him about Plame at least several
weeks prior to Russert.

He also testified that he told Russert that he didn't know it to be true
or not. Did he lie to Russert? Perhaps.

Who care? Folks in this administration lie all the time.

Did he lie to Fitzgerald? Maybe

Oh yeah. Sho enoff.

not. But is it a crime to lie to a news reporter?

No, and he's not being charged for lying to a news reporter. He's being
charged for lying to the investigators of the leak.

Especially a reporter who is fishing for a story by pretending to know
the answer to the questions he's asking?

Oh jeez, Scooter went to college and became a lawyer. He's been at the
top of his game for quite some time. You feel sorry for him because a
reporter asked him leading questions?

Whew.

I expect our president is that stupid but not the folks surrounding him.

jps


What is sad is that Libby is taking a fall for Cheney.

Libby is taking a fall because an insidious cabal of folks from the CIA,
State Dept. and news media decided that they didn't agree with Bush's
policies and took it upon themselves to destabilize his administration.

My prediction: Libby walks.

My prediction: Libby talks or is defrocked.

jps

OT--Charged with lying about a crime that wasn't committed?
 

In article . net,
says...

"jps" wrote in message
...
In article . net,
says...

"jps" wrote in message
...

His testimony doesn't square with his own notes, contemporaneously
recorded when Cheney told him about Valerie Plame.

He testified that Russert told him about Plame...not the other way
around.

And his notes show that Cheney told him about Plame at least several
weeks prior to Russert.

So? He did not testify that he hadn't heard it before. He said that he
could not recall where he first heard it. But he's not being charged for
forgetting where he heard it. He's being charged for obstruction of justice
and perjury because he told the FBI and grand jury that Russert first
mentioned Plame to him...not the other way around.





He also testified that he told Russert that he didn't know it to be true
or
not. Did he lie to Russert? Perhaps.

Who care? Folks in this administration lie all the time.

Lying to reporters that have it in for you is not really lying. It's just a
technique for throwing the hyenas off the scent.




Did he lie to Fitzgerald? Maybe

Oh yeah. Sho enoff.

It's amazing that you can conclude that without seeing any of the Grand jury
evidence and without a trial. And I thought you liberals were concerned
about civil rights and due process and all that stuff.



not. But is it a crime to lie to a news reporter?

No, and he's not being charged for lying to a news reporter. He's being
charged for lying to the investigators of the leak.

Like I said, if you read the indictment, the perjury charges stem from what
he told the FBI and the grand jury about his conversation with Russert, and
what Russert told the Grand Jury. Perhaps Russert is lying.





Especially a reporter who
is fishing for a story by pretending to know the answer to the questions
he's asking?

Oh jeez, Scooter went to college and became a lawyer. He's been at the
top of his game for quite some time. You feel sorry for him because a
reporter asked him leading questions?

Libby knew what Russert was doing, and that's why he neither confirmed nor
denied Russerts claim that "all the media knew" Wilson's wife was with CIA.
Of course, Libby never counted on Russert lying to a grand jury about their
conversation.

"Could not recall"????

You've got to be kidding. He didn't have time to review his own notes
before testifying in front of a Grand Jury?

Man, you are willing to suspend disbelief in a heartbeat when it
involves another Republican.

jps

OT--Charged with lying about a crime that wasn't committed?
 

On Fri, 4 Nov 2005 13:32:33 -0800, jps wrote:

In article , PocoLoco415
says...
On Fri, 4 Nov 2005 13:00:53 -0800, jps wrote:

In article ,
says...

Yeah......try remembering the order and content of your conversations from a
year ago.........

Pinhead,

He had copies of notes that he turned over. Don't you think he was
smart enough to have a look at them before testifying?

Either he didn't think the investigators were smart enough to find the
evidence in his notes or he was purposefully lying to protect his boss.

Either way, the cocksucker lied.

In your book, that means he's a liberal, right?

jps

Now you're throwing 'cocksucker' into the fray. My gosh, what do you guys do
with each other?

It's a Deadwood thing. Ever watch it? Brilliant writing. Lots of
cussing. Favorite word around town is cocksucker.

If you haven't seen it, the first and second seasons are out on DVD.
Incredibly well done with a great cast.

jps

Oh. I thought maybe it was a Kevin, Harry, jps, et al, kind of thing (with the
bukkade kid thrown in of course).
--
John H

"It's *not* a baby kicking, bride of mine, it's just a fetus!"

HK

OT--Charged with lying about a crime that wasn't committed?
 

"Skipper" wrote in message
...
jps wrote:

Skipper says...
bb wrote:

Obstruction for What?
Libby is charged with lying about a crime that wasn't committed.

Last I checked a bj wasn't a crime.

Many prostitutes wish it were so.

That's right Snippy. Clearly, you've never had sex you haven't had to
pay for.

Last I heard Monica didn't charge, unlike your wife.

Clearly? Now if that's an example of a Dem's cognitive skills, it's no
wonder they're so screwed.

It's funny - your wife disagrees with most of what you say about Democrats.
Why, just this morning, I rolled off of her, we shared some strawberries
dipped in melted chocolate, and we started discussing politics. I'll bet you
have no idea what she says about you while you're out at Victoria's Secret,
gettin' yourself a new supply of panties.

OT--Charged with lying about a crime that wasn't committed?
 

On Fri, 04 Nov 2005 20:19:51 GMT, "NOYB" wrote:


" *JimH*" wrote in message

Speaking of DVR's...........how do you like yours? Do you have to
subscribe to TiVo?


I like it. It's part of my Dish Network satellite receiver.


Tivo is GREAT!! It's been said to be the crack cocaine of TV. We've
had Tivo for over four years now, and have had a second Tivo for a
year now in the computer/exercise room. A good CSI/Cold Case makes
time go by quickly on the treadmill.

Did I say Tivo is wonderful? Nah... it's better than that.

Do you like the Discovery Channel, or the History Channel, or shows
about boats? Tivo records what you tell it to, when the shows come
on, automatically. Then you watch them when you want to, without
commercials, and with the ability to pause, rewind, etc. And pausing
live shows... great for the football game.

Tivo. Get it.

:-)

OT--Charged with lying about a crime that wasn't committed?
 

In article ,
says...

"Skipper" wrote in message
...
jps wrote:

Skipper says...
bb wrote:

Obstruction for What?
Libby is charged with lying about a crime that wasn't committed.

Last I checked a bj wasn't a crime.

Many prostitutes wish it were so.

That's right Snippy. Clearly, you've never had sex you haven't had to
pay for.

Last I heard Monica didn't charge, unlike your wife.

Clearly? Now if that's an example of a Dem's cognitive skills, it's no
wonder they're so screwed.

It's funny - your wife disagrees with most of what you say about Democrats.
Why, just this morning, I rolled off of her, we shared some strawberries
dipped in melted chocolate, and we started discussing politics. I'll bet you
have no idea what she says about you while you're out at Victoria's Secret,
gettin' yourself a new supply of panties.

Oh man, that's rich. Thanks for the hearty laugh.

jps

OT--Charged with lying about a crime that wasn't committed?
 

On Fri, 04 Nov 2005 14:20:40 -0800, jps wrote:


My prediction: Libby talks or is defrocked.

Or, he keeps his mouth shut awaiting a Presidential Pardon.