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DSK November 7th 05 02:36 AM

Jet Ski overheating problem
 
Bill McKee wrote:
I guess you never pass on a 2 lane road. Both oncoming and same direction
traffic.


Hey Bill.
Here it is for you ins very simple terms

A boat is NOT a car.

DSK


Bill McKee November 7th 05 06:25 AM

Jet Ski overheating problem
 

"DSK" wrote in message
.. .
Bill McKee wrote:
I guess you never pass on a 2 lane road. Both oncoming and same
direction traffic.


Hey Bill.
Here it is for you ins very simple terms

A boat is NOT a car.

DSK


But passing is passing. And a car can be a boat. Both the Amphicar, and a
couple models lately out of Cuba, and did you ever see a 1957 Buick?



DSK November 7th 05 11:48 AM

Jet Ski overheating problem
 
At this point, you've made it quite obvious that you are a clueless feeb
who is never going to get a clue, no matter how patiently it is
explained to you. But for the benefit of others, I'm going to go just a
bit further here.


A boat is NOT a car.


Bill McKee wrote:
But passing is passing.


No, it is not. If you would drive a boat at 60 mph just a few feet from
another boat... or any object in the water... then you should be
physically restrained from operating a boat since you are a deadly
hazard to yourself and others.

Are cars affected by wakes? Currents? Leeway? Do boats have brakes?

Suppose you "pass" another boat, just as you wuould in a car, at the
same moment a wake strikes that other boat and causes it to slew 20
degrees momentarily? Or just when your own boat meets a wake?

If you overtake another vessel in such a way that you cannot avoid that
vessel if his boat turns, or rolls, or side-slips, or has some minor
equipment failure, the *you* have acted dangerously and incompetently.

DSK



Bert Robbins November 7th 05 12:29 PM

Jet Ski overheating problem
 
DSK you are a pompus ass.

"DSK" wrote in message
...
At this point, you've made it quite obvious that you are a clueless feeb
who is never going to get a clue, no matter how patiently it is explained
to you. But for the benefit of others, I'm going to go just a bit further
here.


A boat is NOT a car.


Bill McKee wrote:
But passing is passing.


No, it is not. If you would drive a boat at 60 mph just a few feet from
another boat... or any object in the water... then you should be
physically restrained from operating a boat since you are a deadly hazard
to yourself and others.

Are cars affected by wakes? Currents? Leeway? Do boats have brakes?

Suppose you "pass" another boat, just as you wuould in a car, at the same
moment a wake strikes that other boat and causes it to slew 20 degrees
momentarily? Or just when your own boat meets a wake?

If you overtake another vessel in such a way that you cannot avoid that
vessel if his boat turns, or rolls, or side-slips, or has some minor
equipment failure, the *you* have acted dangerously and incompetently.

DSK





Scotty November 7th 05 01:53 PM

Jet Ski overheating problem
 
"Bill McKee" wrote
I guess you never pass on a 2 lane road. Both oncoming and

same
direction traffic.


Hey Bill.
Here it is for you ins very simple terms

A boat is NOT a car.

DSK


But passing is passing.



Where Bill boats they have yellow lines painted on the water.
And traffic lights at the intersections.

I really believe he has turn signals on his boat.

SBV




Bill McKee November 7th 05 09:55 PM

Jet Ski overheating problem
 

"Scotty" wrote in message
...
"Bill McKee" wrote
I guess you never pass on a 2 lane road. Both oncoming and

same
direction traffic.

Hey Bill.
Here it is for you ins very simple terms

A boat is NOT a car.

DSK


But passing is passing.



Where Bill boats they have yellow lines painted on the water.
And traffic lights at the intersections.

I really believe he has turn signals on his boat.

SBV


Actually some of the lakes in the USA have buoys defining the lanes of
travel, and all boats have to go in the same direction on the same side of
the buoys. And I guess a Hoby Cat can turn which ever direction he wants at
any time he wants, without penalty of he hits another boat?



Bill McKee November 7th 05 09:58 PM

Jet Ski overheating problem
 

"DSK" wrote in message
...
At this point, you've made it quite obvious that you are a clueless feeb
who is never going to get a clue, no matter how patiently it is explained
to you. But for the benefit of others, I'm going to go just a bit further
here.


A boat is NOT a car.


Bill McKee wrote:
But passing is passing.


No, it is not. If you would drive a boat at 60 mph just a few feet from
another boat... or any object in the water... then you should be
physically restrained from operating a boat since you are a deadly hazard
to yourself and others.

Are cars affected by wakes? Currents? Leeway? Do boats have brakes?

Suppose you "pass" another boat, just as you wuould in a car, at the same
moment a wake strikes that other boat and causes it to slew 20 degrees
momentarily? Or just when your own boat meets a wake?

If you overtake another vessel in such a way that you cannot avoid that
vessel if his boat turns, or rolls, or side-slips, or has some minor
equipment failure, the *you* have acted dangerously and incompetently.

DSK



You have minor or major equipment failure, you are responsible for the
damage. You should maintain your boat better. If you are lucky, you only
run into rocks or the bank, not into a swimming area. And you are supposed
to look before you turn. Being an sailboater, does not relieve you for
responsibility.



DSK November 8th 05 12:35 AM

Jet Ski overheating problem
 
Bill McKee wrote:
You have minor or major equipment failure, you are responsible for the
damage.


A boat which is collided with by another boat that was passing too close
& too fast might share a small percent of responsibility for the damage.
Admiralty courts rarely award 100% of the responsibility to one party.
However the operator of the vessel passing ("overtaking" is the accepted
nautical term, you should learn it) too close & too fast to avoid a
collision is clearly the one bearing most of the blame.


... You should maintain your boat better.


I maintain my boat perfectly.

You should learn the rules which apply to driving BOATS, starting with
the idea that they are not cars.


.... Being an sailboater, does not relieve you for
responsibility.


Being a clueless motorhead does not relieve you (or any of your ilk) of
the responsibility for safe operation of your boat.

DSK


Scotty November 8th 05 01:46 AM

Jet Ski overheating problem
 

"Bill McKee" wrote
A boat is a car..



Where Bill boats they have yellow lines painted on the water.
And traffic lights at the intersections.

I really believe he has turn signals on his boat.

SBV


Actually some of the lakes in the USA have buoys defining the

lanes of
travel, and all boats have to go in the same direction on the

same side of
the buoys. And I guess a Hoby Cat can turn which ever

direction he wants at
any time he wants, without penalty of he hits another boat?



So it was a Hobie Cat you were bearing down on at 25MPH.

Were you trying to get revenge because of this;
http://www.thebeachcats.com/OnTheWir...Repellent.html

SBV



Bill McKee November 8th 05 07:45 AM

Jet Ski overheating problem
 

"Scotty" wrote in message
...

"Bill McKee" wrote
A boat is a car..


Where Bill boats they have yellow lines painted on the water.
And traffic lights at the intersections.

I really believe he has turn signals on his boat.

SBV


Actually some of the lakes in the USA have buoys defining the

lanes of
travel, and all boats have to go in the same direction on the

same side of
the buoys. And I guess a Hoby Cat can turn which ever

direction he wants at
any time he wants, without penalty of he hits another boat?



So it was a Hobie Cat you were bearing down on at 25MPH.

Were you trying to get revenge because of this;
http://www.thebeachcats.com/OnTheWir...Repellent.html

SBV



No, it was a 25' sailboat under power. A powerboat. They then raised
sails, while motor is still running and made a 90 degree turn in front of
me. Still a powerboat. And I guess DSK would argue that it is a sailboat
at all times.




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