JamesgangNC wrote:


I have heard of air conditioning. And I'm familiar with how much power it
takes. A lot. Either you have a lot of batteries and don't run the ac for
long or you have a generator. Neither is very practical in a smaller boat.

At present I have a Crownline 210ccr on Lake Hartwell- along the GA SC
border. This is a 21ft cuddy cabin boat. first used on Lake Murry just
outside of Columbia SC. We are currently selling it because we no longer
need a boat with a pottie in it, thus we are going to a bowrider.

That being said, we have found by opening the door to to cockpit and
opening the hatch while on the hook a pleasent breeze blows through the
cuddy and makes it very nice to take a little snooze. Personally I can't
recall it ever being to hot in there, but I am sure there may have been
a time or two. Nine years of usage in the south without air conditioning
or the desire for it.

Capt Jack R.



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"JamesgangNC" wrote in message
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There you go :-)

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*JimH* wrote:

..........Crownline, for building a 31.5 foot *Bowrider*!

http://www.crownline.com/models04/mo...p?id=316_ls_05

http://www.crownline.com/models05/bo...16ls/big/2.jpg

http://www.crownline.com/models05/bo...16ls/big/3.jpg

http://www.crownline.com/models05/bo...16ls/big/4.jpg

http://www.crownline.com/models05/bo...16ls/big/5.jpg

A 31.5 foot bowrider? What the hell were these folks thinking?

Guess you've never been in a cabin, in summer, in the south, huh?



Guess you never heard of air conditioning, huh?

Harry Krause wrote:
Jack Redington wrote:

JamesgangNC wrote:


I have heard of air conditioning. And I'm familiar with how much
power it takes. A lot. Either you have a lot of batteries and don't
run the ac for long or you have a generator. Neither is very
practical in a smaller boat.


At present I have a Crownline 210ccr on Lake Hartwell- along the GA SC
border. This is a 21ft cuddy cabin boat. first used on Lake Murry just
outside of Columbia SC. We are currently selling it because we no
longer need a boat with a pottie in it, thus we are going to a bowrider.


You've stopped having bowel movements?

Funny how you would think of that.

When we purchased our boat we were out in it all day. When it was not in
use it sat on the trailer. On Lake Murry in SC there are not alot of
public places to stop. Even after moving to the Atlanta area and boating
on Lanier it was nice to have the cuddy. And at the time we purchased it
our two daughters we ages .5 and three. So it suited us perfectly.

At 3900lbs dry it was easy to trailer, with the cuddy was great for a
full day out on the water with the family.

Now we have a little getaway/weekend place on Lake Hartwell with a dock.
Thus the kids are older and much of our time on the boat is now skiing
and wandering and not so much just finding a nice cove to spend the day.

If we are just going swimming, the dock has nice deep water.

Our usage has changed, now so will the boat.

Capt Jack R..

On Thu, 13 Oct 2005 04:25:00 GMT, Jack Redington
wrote:

Harry Krause wrote:
Jack Redington wrote:

JamesgangNC wrote:


I have heard of air conditioning. And I'm familiar with how much
power it takes. A lot. Either you have a lot of batteries and don't
run the ac for long or you have a generator. Neither is very
practical in a smaller boat.


At present I have a Crownline 210ccr on Lake Hartwell- along the GA SC
border. This is a 21ft cuddy cabin boat. first used on Lake Murry just
outside of Columbia SC. We are currently selling it because we no
longer need a boat with a pottie in it, thus we are going to a bowrider.


You've stopped having bowel movements?

Funny how you would think of that.

When we purchased our boat we were out in it all day. When it was not in
use it sat on the trailer. On Lake Murry in SC there are not alot of
public places to stop. Even after moving to the Atlanta area and boating
on Lanier it was nice to have the cuddy. And at the time we purchased it
our two daughters we ages .5 and three. So it suited us perfectly.

At 3900lbs dry it was easy to trailer, with the cuddy was great for a
full day out on the water with the family.

Now we have a little getaway/weekend place on Lake Hartwell with a dock.
Thus the kids are older and much of our time on the boat is now skiing
and wandering and not so much just finding a nice cove to spend the day.

If we are just going swimming, the dock has nice deep water.

Our usage has changed, now so will the boat.

Capt Jack R..

Give Harry a break. Anal fixation and NPD go hand in hand.

--
John H

"The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant: It's just that they know so much that isn't so."

Ronald Reagan

If you don't spend any time in the cabin what is the point in having a
cabin. That's what this boat is about. I never saw the point in being in a
docked boat. That's what I have a lake house for.

" *JimH*" wrote in message
...



"JamesgangNC" wrote in message
link.net...
I have heard of air conditioning. And I'm familiar with how much power it
takes. A lot. Either you have a lot of batteries and don't run the ac
for long or you have a generator. Neither is very practical in a smaller
boat.

" *JimH*" wrote in message
. ..

"JamesgangNC" wrote in message
nk.net...
There you go :-)

wrote in message
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*JimH* wrote:
..........Crownline, for building a 31.5 foot *Bowrider*!

http://www.crownline.com/models04/mo...p?id=316_ls_05

http://www.crownline.com/models05/bo...16ls/big/2.jpg

http://www.crownline.com/models05/bo...16ls/big/3.jpg

http://www.crownline.com/models05/bo...16ls/big/4.jpg

http://www.crownline.com/models05/bo...16ls/big/5.jpg

A 31.5 foot bowrider? What the hell were these folks thinking?

Guess you've never been in a cabin, in summer, in the south, huh?




Guess you never heard of air conditioning, huh?




Folks don't spend much time in the small cabins in smaller boats. Heck,
we use ours as a holding bin for our gear. I was addressing the cabin
in a 32 foot cruiser as the initial discussion was about a 32 foot boat.
And I was also talking about the time while dockside as that is generally
the time one might be in the cabin. While dockside you have shorepower.
Folks cruising or anchored generally don't spend time in the cabin, even
to eat. So your discussion about the need for a genny or a large bank of
batteries to run the AC is also a bit over the edge.

And why are you now talking about small boats?

"JamesgangNC" wrote in message
link.net...
If you don't spend any time in the cabin what is the point in having a
cabin. That's what this boat is about. I never saw the point in being in
a docked boat. That's what I have a lake house for.

" *JimH*" wrote in message
...



"JamesgangNC" wrote in message
link.net...
I have heard of air conditioning. And I'm familiar with how much power
it takes. A lot. Either you have a lot of batteries and don't run the
ac for long or you have a generator. Neither is very practical in a
smaller boat.

" *JimH*" wrote in message
. ..

"JamesgangNC" wrote in message
nk.net...
There you go :-)

wrote in message
oups.com...

*JimH* wrote:
..........Crownline, for building a 31.5 foot *Bowrider*!

http://www.crownline.com/models04/mo...p?id=316_ls_05

http://www.crownline.com/models05/bo...16ls/big/2.jpg

http://www.crownline.com/models05/bo...16ls/big/3.jpg

http://www.crownline.com/models05/bo...16ls/big/4.jpg

http://www.crownline.com/models05/bo...16ls/big/5.jpg

A 31.5 foot bowrider? What the hell were these folks thinking?

Guess you've never been in a cabin, in summer, in the south, huh?




Guess you never heard of air conditioning, huh?




Folks don't spend much time in the small cabins in smaller boats. Heck,
we use ours as a holding bin for our gear. I was addressing the cabin
in a 32 foot cruiser as the initial discussion was about a 32 foot boat.
And I was also talking about the time while dockside as that is generally
the time one might be in the cabin. While dockside you have shorepower.
Folks cruising or anchored generally don't spend time in the cabin, even
to eat. So your discussion about the need for a genny or a large bank of
batteries to run the AC is also a bit over the edge.

And why are you now talking about small boats?




As I said earlier we use ours for storage. It also provides privacy when
doing our thing on the porta potty. Lastly, it gives us the option of an
overnighter on the boat, cramped quarters and all.

A lake house is great but it is stationary and expensive. No adventure
there.

When we had your 32 footer we comfortably spent nights in the cabin (we
could easily sleep 4 adults and 2 children in the cabin), with AC or heat
when at our or other docks, without it when on the hook. We also had a
fully enclosed head with shower. While cruising we spent our time mainly in
the cockpit enjoying the sunshine. The boat gave us an opportunity to
explore various ports.

The 32 foot bowrider offers no option for overnighting in relative comfort.
It also looks like it provides the cockpit space of only a 23 foot bowrider.

Everyone has different priorities on what they need on a boat. You
obviously do no overnighting and stick to inland lake boating...........so a
bowrider is perfect for you. We have a different agenda. Different
strokes. There is no right or wrong there.

That does not, however, dismiss the fact that this 32 foot bowrider is a bit
of a stretch, even realizing that the manufacturer may produce quality
boats. And *that* was my original point.

Peace.

JamesgangNC wrote:


If you don't spend any time in the cabin what is the point in having a
cabin. That's what this boat is about. I never saw the point in being in a
docked boat. That's what I have a lake house for.

" *JimH*" wrote in message
...



"JamesgangNC" wrote in message
thlink.net...

I have heard of air conditioning. And I'm familiar with how much power it
takes. A lot. Either you have a lot of batteries and don't run the ac
for long or you have a generator. Neither is very practical in a smaller
boat.

" *JimH*" wrote in message
om...

"JamesgangNC" wrote in message
thlink.net...

There you go :-)

wrote in message
glegroups.com...

*JimH* wrote:

..........Crownline, for building a 31.5 foot *Bowrider*!

http://www.crownline.com/models04/mo...p?id=316_ls_05

http://www.crownline.com/models05/bo...16ls/big/2.jpg

http://www.crownline.com/models05/bo...16ls/big/3.jpg

http://www.crownline.com/models05/bo...16ls/big/4.jpg

http://www.crownline.com/models05/bo...16ls/big/5.jpg

A 31.5 foot bowrider? What the hell were these folks thinking?

Guess you've never been in a cabin, in summer, in the south, huh?



Guess you never heard of air conditioning, huh?



Folks don't spend much time in the small cabins in smaller boats. Heck,
we use ours as a holding bin for our gear. I was addressing the cabin
in a 32 foot cruiser as the initial discussion was about a 32 foot boat.
And I was also talking about the time while dockside as that is generally
the time one might be in the cabin. While dockside you have shorepower.
Folks cruising or anchored generally don't spend time in the cabin, even
to eat. So your discussion about the need for a genny or a large bank of
batteries to run the AC is also a bit over the edge.

And why are you now talking about small boats?





Apparently Crownline is not the only one in the big bowrider market.

http://www.cobaltboats.com/model_line/282/intro282.php

Capt Jack R..

*JimH* wrote:
"JamesgangNC" wrote in message
link.net...
If you don't spend any time in the cabin what is the point in having a
cabin. That's what this boat is about. I never saw the point in being in
a docked boat. That's what I have a lake house for.

" *JimH*" wrote in message
...



"JamesgangNC" wrote in message
link.net...
I have heard of air conditioning. And I'm familiar with how much power
it takes. A lot. Either you have a lot of batteries and don't run the
ac for long or you have a generator. Neither is very practical in a
smaller boat.

" *JimH*" wrote in message
. ..

"JamesgangNC" wrote in message
nk.net...
There you go :-)

wrote in message
oups.com...

*JimH* wrote:
..........Crownline, for building a 31.5 foot *Bowrider*!

http://www.crownline.com/models04/mo...p?id=316_ls_05

http://www.crownline.com/models05/bo...16ls/big/2.jpg

http://www.crownline.com/models05/bo...16ls/big/3.jpg

http://www.crownline.com/models05/bo...16ls/big/4.jpg

http://www.crownline.com/models05/bo...16ls/big/5.jpg

A 31.5 foot bowrider? What the hell were these folks thinking?

Guess you've never been in a cabin, in summer, in the south, huh?




Guess you never heard of air conditioning, huh?




Folks don't spend much time in the small cabins in smaller boats. Heck,
we use ours as a holding bin for our gear. I was addressing the cabin
in a 32 foot cruiser as the initial discussion was about a 32 foot boat.
And I was also talking about the time while dockside as that is generally
the time one might be in the cabin. While dockside you have shorepower.
Folks cruising or anchored generally don't spend time in the cabin, even
to eat. So your discussion about the need for a genny or a large bank of
batteries to run the AC is also a bit over the edge.

And why are you now talking about small boats?




As I said earlier we use ours for storage. It also provides privacy when
doing our thing on the porta potty. Lastly, it gives us the option of an
overnighter on the boat, cramped quarters and all.

A lake house is great but it is stationary and expensive. No adventure
there.

When we had your 32 footer we comfortably spent nights in the cabin (we
could easily sleep 4 adults and 2 children in the cabin), with AC or heat
when at our or other docks, without it when on the hook. We also had a
fully enclosed head with shower. While cruising we spent our time mainly in
the cockpit enjoying the sunshine. The boat gave us an opportunity to
explore various ports.

The 32 foot bowrider offers no option for overnighting in relative comfort.
It also looks like it provides the cockpit space of only a 23 foot bowrider.

Everyone has different priorities on what they need on a boat. You
obviously do no overnighting and stick to inland lake boating...........so a
bowrider is perfect for you. We have a different agenda. Different
strokes. There is no right or wrong there.

That does not, however, dismiss the fact that this 32 foot bowrider is a bit
of a stretch, even realizing that the manufacturer may produce quality
boats. And *that* was my original point.

Peace.

I got a look at the same boat, one size smaller this afternoon.

Their boat at 26 LOA has a head in the port console. There is stowage
*everywhere*. The larger boat apparently has a couple of single berths
for overnight cruising, under the foward seating. The larger boat also
has a built in entertainment system, etc. the 30-foot LOA boat (never
was and never will be 32-feet) is almost an "open bow express cruiser"
more than an open bow runabout- based on amenities.

That's a whole lot of boat for a whole lot of money ;-)


" *JimH*" wrote in message
...
..........Crownline, for building a 31.5 foot *Bowrider*!

http://www.crownline.com/models04/mo...p?id=316_ls_05

http://www.crownline.com/models05/bo...16ls/big/2.jpg

http://www.crownline.com/models05/bo...16ls/big/3.jpg

http://www.crownline.com/models05/bo...16ls/big/4.jpg

http://www.crownline.com/models05/bo...16ls/big/5.jpg

A 31.5 foot bowrider? What the hell were these folks thinking?