Harry Krause wrote:

The yacht clubby types tend to take their club rank seriously. It's
really kind of laughable.

My father's boatyard was almost next door to a snooty yacht club in the
same harbor. He joined because I wanted to race sailboats in the junior
program when I was a kid, but he refused to get involved in the
hierarchy. For fun, we went to social events at a blue collar boat club,
where no one was an "ossifer with a title."

Actually, the NG does have a snooty, holier than thou, commodore yachty
type participant. You might want to ask Commodore Chucky about it.

--
Skipper

Skipper wrote:

Actually, the NG does have a snooty, holier than thou, commodore yachty
type participant. You might want to ask Commodore Chucky about it.

--
Skipper

Would the 'real' Snipper please stand up.

Skipper wrote:
Harry Krause wrote:

The yacht clubby types tend to take their club rank seriously. It's
really kind of laughable.

My father's boatyard was almost next door to a snooty yacht club in the
same harbor. He joined because I wanted to race sailboats in the junior
program when I was a kid, but he refused to get involved in the
hierarchy. For fun, we went to social events at a blue collar boat club,
where no one was an "ossifer with a title."

Actually, the NG does have a snooty, holier than thou, commodore yachty
type participant. You might want to ask Commodore Chucky about it.

--
Skipper

Aha. Psuedo now runs from his unsupportable claims that I am a "liar"
(offers no evidence of any type) simply to show up in this thread and
start a new line of personal attack. Do you ever tire of being a sick,
twisted, negative minded little butt barnacle, Psuedo?

I'd love to know upon what basis you characterize me as "Commodore
Chucky". I have never served in that capacity in any club. (Board
Chairman is a different office, attending to the business aspects
rather than the social aspects of the organization). I have not even
been a member of any yacht club for a few years. But then again, the
truth has never been an important element in your endless bowel
movement of personal attacks has it, Psuedo? How sad to end up in life
as a broken down, bitter, boatless old man with nothing to do but crank
out bitchy little insults to virtual strangers all around the world.
Man, that has got to be one depressing fate. Sorry for your loss (of
self respect), Psuedo.

The real Skipper appeared, for all intents and purposes, to be a member
of the KKK. He really launched some zingers about blacks and jews a
couple of times. I used to belong to a yacht club, but I've never
belonged to any organization that preached hatred and intolerance.
Given the choice between one and the other, I'd take the yacht club any
day.

GFYS. (Stands for: good for you, "skipper", of course).

On 10 Oct 2005 16:01:30 -0700, wrote:


Skipper wrote:
Harry Krause wrote:

The yacht clubby types tend to take their club rank seriously. It's
really kind of laughable.

My father's boatyard was almost next door to a snooty yacht club in the
same harbor. He joined because I wanted to race sailboats in the junior
program when I was a kid, but he refused to get involved in the
hierarchy. For fun, we went to social events at a blue collar boat club,
where no one was an "ossifer with a title."

Actually, the NG does have a snooty, holier than thou, commodore yachty
type participant. You might want to ask Commodore Chucky about it.

--
Skipper

Aha. Psuedo now runs from his unsupportable claims that I am a "liar"
(offers no evidence of any type) simply to show up in this thread and
start a new line of personal attack. Do you ever tire of being a sick,
twisted, negative minded little butt barnacle, Psuedo?

I'd love to know upon what basis you characterize me as "Commodore
Chucky". I have never served in that capacity in any club. (Board
Chairman is a different office, attending to the business aspects
rather than the social aspects of the organization). I have not even
been a member of any yacht club for a few years. But then again, the
truth has never been an important element in your endless bowel
movement of personal attacks has it, Psuedo? How sad to end up in life
as a broken down, bitter, boatless old man with nothing to do but crank
out bitchy little insults to virtual strangers all around the world.
Man, that has got to be one depressing fate. Sorry for your loss (of
self respect), Psuedo.

The real Skipper appeared, for all intents and purposes, to be a member
of the KKK. He really launched some zingers about blacks and jews a
couple of times. I used to belong to a yacht club, but I've never
belonged to any organization that preached hatred and intolerance.
Given the choice between one and the other, I'd take the yacht club any
day.

GFYS. (Stands for: good for you, "skipper", of course).

Sure does sound like you're talking to Harry! When Harry started his **** with
me, I got ****ed. Made an ass out of myself. I've since learned to laugh at his
foolishness and chalk it up to NPD.

You now seem to be having the same problems several in the group have had with
Krause. Pain in the butt, isn't it?

Filter him, 'cause it's sounding more and more like he's for real.

--
John H

"The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant: It's just that they know so much that isn't so."

Ronald Reagan

Chuck,

Skipper has made a few comments about your integrity and you go ballistic.
JimH should not have allowed your personal attacks on him to **** him off,
but it did. Maybe you owe him an apology, you know what they say about
Karma.

ps - This Skipper is Dave Mann from Derby Kansas. He is the person you
meet in person, it is not a Pseudo.


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Skipper wrote:
Harry Krause wrote:

The yacht clubby types tend to take their club rank seriously. It's
really kind of laughable.

My father's boatyard was almost next door to a snooty yacht club in the
same harbor. He joined because I wanted to race sailboats in the junior
program when I was a kid, but he refused to get involved in the
hierarchy. For fun, we went to social events at a blue collar boat
club,
where no one was an "ossifer with a title."

Actually, the NG does have a snooty, holier than thou, commodore yachty
type participant. You might want to ask Commodore Chucky about it.

--
Skipper

Aha. Psuedo now runs from his unsupportable claims that I am a "liar"
(offers no evidence of any type) simply to show up in this thread and
start a new line of personal attack. Do you ever tire of being a sick,
twisted, negative minded little butt barnacle, Psuedo?

I'd love to know upon what basis you characterize me as "Commodore
Chucky". I have never served in that capacity in any club. (Board
Chairman is a different office, attending to the business aspects
rather than the social aspects of the organization). I have not even
been a member of any yacht club for a few years. But then again, the
truth has never been an important element in your endless bowel
movement of personal attacks has it, Psuedo? How sad to end up in life
as a broken down, bitter, boatless old man with nothing to do but crank
out bitchy little insults to virtual strangers all around the world.
Man, that has got to be one depressing fate. Sorry for your loss (of
self respect), Psuedo.

The real Skipper appeared, for all intents and purposes, to be a member
of the KKK. He really launched some zingers about blacks and jews a
couple of times. I used to belong to a yacht club, but I've never
belonged to any organization that preached hatred and intolerance.
Given the choice between one and the other, I'd take the yacht club any
day.

GFYS. (Stands for: good for you, "skipper", of course).

Starbuck's Words of Wisdom wrote:
Chuck,

Skipper has made a few comments about your integrity and you go ballistic.

I have done nothing to deserve the non-stop flaming this individual
began with his "open letter" thread and has continued ever since.

If any of his outrageous charges had a shred of truth, that would be
one thing.
Only a sick ******* takes up stalking a person from thread to thread to
lob disruptive insults. This character is surely not the first to pull
this nonsense in the NG, and probably won't be the last.

You ain't seen "ballistic", Starbucks. I'm currently merely annoyed
with this little butt barnacle- but if he insists on stalking me he's
going to get an offal surprise sooner rather than later.


JimH should not have allowed your personal attacks on him to **** him off,
but it did.

No, he should not. JimH should have thicker skin. He who wields a flame
thrower is well advised to wear an asbestos suit and keep a sharp eye
peeled for blowback. JimH is far superior to Psuedo, however, as JimH
only attempts to make a personal issue out of posts that have actually
appeared in the NG. Psuedo, OTOH, dreams up some crap supposedly from
five years ago and supposedly from a private conversation and
challenges people to defend/explain statements that were never made in
the first place. JimH often chooses a very narrow and unusual
perspective from which to evaluate a post, but it would be very much
unlike JimH to make up crap out of thin air and then demand somebody
account for it. When JimH calls me a liar, as he has done on a number
of ocassions, he always itemizes his bill and pulls no punches as to
the nature of the "lie" he is alleging.

The major similarity between Psuedo and JimH is that its a dislike for
my political philosophy that fosters the vast majority of their
personal remarks.
JimH has never met me, and Psuedo Skipper obviously doesn't know me.

Maybe you owe him an apology, you know what they say about
Karma.

I publicly apologized for voicing my suspicion that the extremely
weird, once-in-a-lifetime posting style used by "Skipper" at the
opening of his "Open Letter" attack thread and the use of the same very
unsual style and phrasing in an attack post by JimH likely indicated
common authorship. I do not apologize for suspecting the common
authorship. You, yourself, said you suspected a common authorship until
some computer-related data convinced you otherwise.



ps - This Skipper is Dave Mann from Derby Kansas. He is the person you
meet in person, it is not a Pseudo.


I am beginning to see some similarity between the current version of
Skipper and the very worst examples of Cave Mann when he was most out
of control in previous years. What a shame if it's Dave, time has not
been kind to him at all.

If it's really Dave, the Psuedo Skipper title still fits him very well.
If he buys another boat, we'll surely begin hearing tales about how his
new driveway ornament is the best "purpose built" craft on the planet,
and he'll be insisting that everybody else drag their boats down to
Mexico where he will demonstrate proper technique for riding out
hurricane force winds in a little runabout. Maybe he'll invite his
Wilson cousins, the Boys can sit on the Beach.

Chuck,
For what it is worth, nothing Skipper says will change anyone's impression
of your integrity. I wouldn't let it bother you.


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Starbuck's Words of Wisdom wrote:
Chuck,

Skipper has made a few comments about your integrity and you go
ballistic.

I have done nothing to deserve the non-stop flaming this individual
began with his "open letter" thread and has continued ever since.

If any of his outrageous charges had a shred of truth, that would be
one thing.
Only a sick ******* takes up stalking a person from thread to thread to
lob disruptive insults. This character is surely not the first to pull
this nonsense in the NG, and probably won't be the last.

You ain't seen "ballistic", Starbucks. I'm currently merely annoyed
with this little butt barnacle- but if he insists on stalking me he's
going to get an offal surprise sooner rather than later.


JimH should not have allowed your personal attacks on him to **** him
off,
but it did.

No, he should not. JimH should have thicker skin. He who wields a flame
thrower is well advised to wear an asbestos suit and keep a sharp eye
peeled for blowback. JimH is far superior to Psuedo, however, as JimH
only attempts to make a personal issue out of posts that have actually
appeared in the NG. Psuedo, OTOH, dreams up some crap supposedly from
five years ago and supposedly from a private conversation and
challenges people to defend/explain statements that were never made in
the first place. JimH often chooses a very narrow and unusual
perspective from which to evaluate a post, but it would be very much
unlike JimH to make up crap out of thin air and then demand somebody
account for it. When JimH calls me a liar, as he has done on a number
of ocassions, he always itemizes his bill and pulls no punches as to
the nature of the "lie" he is alleging.

The major similarity between Psuedo and JimH is that its a dislike for
my political philosophy that fosters the vast majority of their
personal remarks.
JimH has never met me, and Psuedo Skipper obviously doesn't know me.

Maybe you owe him an apology, you know what they say about
Karma.

I publicly apologized for voicing my suspicion that the extremely
weird, once-in-a-lifetime posting style used by "Skipper" at the
opening of his "Open Letter" attack thread and the use of the same very
unsual style and phrasing in an attack post by JimH likely indicated
common authorship. I do not apologize for suspecting the common
authorship. You, yourself, said you suspected a common authorship until
some computer-related data convinced you otherwise.



ps - This Skipper is Dave Mann from Derby Kansas. He is the person you
meet in person, it is not a Pseudo.


I am beginning to see some similarity between the current version of
Skipper and the very worst examples of Cave Mann when he was most out
of control in previous years. What a shame if it's Dave, time has not
been kind to him at all.

If it's really Dave, the Psuedo Skipper title still fits him very well.
If he buys another boat, we'll surely begin hearing tales about how his
new driveway ornament is the best "purpose built" craft on the planet,
and he'll be insisting that everybody else drag their boats down to
Mexico where he will demonstrate proper technique for riding out
hurricane force winds in a little runabout. Maybe he'll invite his
Wilson cousins, the Boys can sit on the Beach.

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Starbuck's Words of Wisdom wrote:
Chuck,

Skipper has made a few comments about your integrity and you go
ballistic.

I have done nothing to deserve the non-stop flaming this individual
began with his "open letter" thread and has continued ever since.

Now you are going to try and play the poor innocent me card. It won't work.

If any of his outrageous charges had a shred of truth, that would be
one thing.
Only a sick ******* takes up stalking a person from thread to thread to
lob disruptive insults. This character is surely not the first to pull
this nonsense in the NG, and probably won't be the last.

Sounds like you are describing your buddy Harry and tag along Don.

You ain't seen "ballistic", Starbucks. I'm currently merely annoyed
with this little butt barnacle- but if he insists on stalking me he's
going to get an offal surprise sooner rather than later.

Idle threat or you are going to go into one of your self imposed hiatus'.

JimH should not have allowed your personal attacks on him to **** him
off,
but it did.

No, he should not. JimH should have thicker skin. He who wields a flame
thrower is well advised to wear an asbestos suit and keep a sharp eye
peeled for blowback. JimH is far superior to Psuedo, however, as JimH
only attempts to make a personal issue out of posts that have actually
appeared in the NG. Psuedo, OTOH, dreams up some crap supposedly from
five years ago and supposedly from a private conversation and
challenges people to defend/explain statements that were never made in
the first place. JimH often chooses a very narrow and unusual
perspective from which to evaluate a post, but it would be very much
unlike JimH to make up crap out of thin air and then demand somebody
account for it. When JimH calls me a liar, as he has done on a number
of ocassions, he always itemizes his bill and pulls no punches as to
the nature of the "lie" he is alleging.

Seems like your skin is getting thinner every day.

So, you have been challenged in a public forum for private a discussion you
had with Skipper? Tell us your side and we will then determine who we
believe.

Chuck you are a bully and when some one turns it back on you it really gets
you ****ed. A spoon full of your own medicine is often bitter.

The major similarity between Psuedo and JimH is that its a dislike for
my political philosophy that fosters the vast majority of their
personal remarks.
JimH has never met me, and Psuedo Skipper obviously doesn't know me.

Your tirads about those that have differing opinions is what ****es people
off. You have an air of superiority in your written words.

Maybe you owe him an apology, you know what they say about
Karma.

I publicly apologized for voicing my suspicion that the extremely
weird, once-in-a-lifetime posting style used by "Skipper" at the
opening of his "Open Letter" attack thread and the use of the same very
unsual style and phrasing in an attack post by JimH likely indicated
common authorship. I do not apologize for suspecting the common
authorship. You, yourself, said you suspected a common authorship until
some computer-related data convinced you otherwise.

Keep trying you will realize the source someday.


ps - This Skipper is Dave Mann from Derby Kansas. He is the person you
meet in person, it is not a Pseudo.


I am beginning to see some similarity between the current version of
Skipper and the very worst examples of Cave Mann when he was most out
of control in previous years. What a shame if it's Dave, time has not
been kind to him at all.

Time hasn't been good to you either, you have become more acidic these last
couple of years.

If it's really Dave, the Psuedo Skipper title still fits him very well.
If he buys another boat, we'll surely begin hearing tales about how his
new driveway ornament is the best "purpose built" craft on the planet,
and he'll be insisting that everybody else drag their boats down to
Mexico where he will demonstrate proper technique for riding out
hurricane force winds in a little runabout. Maybe he'll invite his
Wilson cousins, the Boys can sit on the Beach.

The similarities between Skipper and Harry are very interesting.

Bert Robbins wrote:

I have done nothing to deserve the non-stop flaming this individual
began with his "open letter" thread and has continued ever since.

Now you are going to try and play the poor innocent me card. It won't
work.

Chucky just doesn't know where the truth begins. A Common problem with
used car salesmen types.

If any of his outrageous charges had a shred of truth, that would be
one thing.

Are you now ready to discuss your statements to me regarding AIMS? NG
readers can decide for themselves who is being honest about those
discussions.

You ain't seen "ballistic", Starbucks. I'm currently merely annoyed
with this little butt barnacle- but if he insists on stalking me he's
going to get an offal surprise sooner rather than later.

Let's discuss.

--
Skipper

wrote:

Starbuck's Words of Wisdom wrote:
Chuck,

Skipper has made a few comments about your integrity and you go
ballistic.

I have done nothing to deserve the non-stop flaming this individual
began with his "open letter" thread and has continued ever since.

After Skipper left the NG you flamed him at every mention. You KNEW he
had over 50 years of boating experience and yet you called him a
"non-boater". That alone would be justification for most, but you went
further, placing him as the butt of your jokes with acquaintances over
beers. Skipper has plenty of cause for setting the record straight about
your integrity and honesty.

If any of his outrageous charges had a shred of truth, that would be
one thing.

Are you now stating the conversations you had with Skipper about AIMS
did not happen?

Only a sick ******* takes up stalking a person from thread to thread to
lob disruptive insults. This character is surely not the first to pull
this nonsense in the NG, and probably won't be the last.

Why are you avoiding an open discussion about AIMS? Could it be because
that would show you in an unflattering light?

You ain't seen "ballistic", Starbucks. I'm currently merely annoyed
with this little butt barnacle- but if he insists on stalking me he's
going to get an offal surprise sooner rather than later.

You seem mighty worried about this invitation to an open discussion. I
believe most will have a hard time understanding your reluctance to
discuss your prior statements about AIMS.

JimH should not have allowed your personal attacks on him to **** him
off, but it did.

No, he should not. JimH should have thicker skin. He who wields a flame
thrower is well advised to wear an asbestos suit and keep a sharp eye
peeled for blowback.

You might want to follow you own advice about flaming others. It open an
invitation to an open discussion about YOUR conduct.

JimH is far superior to Psuedo, however, as JimH only attempts to make
a personal issue out of posts that have actually appeared in the NG.
Psuedo, OTOH, dreams up some crap supposedly from five years ago and
supposedly from a private conversation and challenges people to
defend/explain statements that were never made in the first place.

"Dreams up crap that never took place"? Perhaps we should discuss and
let the NG readers decide for themselves who is relating the truth.

The major similarity between Psuedo and JimH is that its a dislike for
my political philosophy that fosters the vast majority of their
personal remarks. JimH has never met me, and Psuedo Skipper obviously
doesn't know me.

Would seem you are Mr. Perfect and have no fault. Congratulations. Now,
lets discuss AIMS and your statements.

Maybe you owe him an apology, you know what they say about Karma.

I do not apologize for suspecting the common authorship. You, yourself,
said you suspected a common authorship until some computer-related data
convinced you otherwise.

Sufficient evidence has been presented so that you KNOW who is accusing
you.

ps - This Skipper is the person you meet in person, it is not a Pseudo.

I am beginning to see some similarity between the current version of
Skipper and the very worst examples of Cave Mann when he was most out
of control in previous years. What a shame if it's Dave, time has not
been kind to him at all. Maybe he'll invite his Wilson cousins, the
Boys can sit on the Beach.

All but one of those cousins are now dead, as are their parents. The one
cousin who lives is brain fried. As I've stated before, you are indeed a
class act, Chucky.

--
Skipper