A friend and I were having a discussion, I stated that if I had the money to
buy an ocean liner and just used it for personal pleasure (no paying
passengers) I didn't need a captain's (master's) license. I said that it
might be a bit of a problem finding someone willing to insure you though. My
friend disagreed, he said that after 60 feet the boat required a captain's
license. (just to keep this post on topic to this newsgroup I'll state that
my friend is a Republican and I'm basically a Democrat, but we don't discuss
this at all.) :-) So I ask the group. was I correct? Also is there a point
(size wise) where insurance companies want you to have credentials such as a
master's license or previous experience?
Paul

Might not be a requirement, but it sure sounds like a good idea
nevertheless. Piloting a 100 ton + vessel requires skills that only
experience and training could provide. An insurance company would be foolish
not to require some sort of qualified credentials before insuring a large
private vessel IMHO.



"Paul Schilter" paulschilter@comcast,dot,net wrote in message
...
A friend and I were having a discussion, I stated that if I had the money
to
buy an ocean liner and just used it for personal pleasure (no paying
passengers) I didn't need a captain's (master's) license. I said that it
might be a bit of a problem finding someone willing to insure you though.
My
friend disagreed, he said that after 60 feet the boat required a captain's
license. (just to keep this post on topic to this newsgroup I'll state
that
my friend is a Republican and I'm basically a Democrat, but we don't
discuss
this at all.) :-) So I ask the group. was I correct? Also is there a point
(size wise) where insurance companies want you to have credentials such as
a
master's license or previous experience?
Paul

On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 18:01:10 -0400, "Paul Schilter"
paulschilter@comcast,dot,net wrote:
A friend and I were having a discussion, I stated that if I had the money to
buy an ocean liner and just used it for personal pleasure (no paying
passengers) I didn't need a captain's (master's) license. I said that it
might be a bit of a problem finding someone willing to insure you though. My
friend disagreed, he said that after 60 feet the boat required a captain's
license. (just to keep this post on topic to this newsgroup I'll state that
my friend is a Republican and I'm basically a Democrat, but we don't discuss
this at all.) :-) So I ask the group. was I correct? Also is there a point
(size wise) where insurance companies want you to have credentials such as a
master's license or previous experience?
=========================================

It all comes down to financing and insurance. Unless you own the boat
free and clear, you're going to need insurance. To get insurance, you
will need a qualified operator of the vessel. What that means is up
to the insurance company to decide.

It all comes down to financing and insurance. Unless you own the boat
free and clear, you're going to need insurance. To get insurance, you
will need a qualified operator of the vessel. What that means is up
to the insurance company to decide.


IN OTHERWORDS, NO ONE WHO HAS ANSWERED SO FAR KNOWS FORE SURE!

They are just guessing. Any body out there know the answer? I don't.
Larry Hill

Can't give you a definitive answer, however....
60 feet is not a criteria for a license in the US, though it could be other
places.
Insurance will play a big part as to who operates this vessel.
Where you register/document it will also be a major factor (amazin what you can
get away with when you have enough money and the right contacts)
BUT, if you can afford a ship that big, why would you want the headaches
associated with being the Master of such a vessel? Hire some flunky.

Shen

On 21 Jul 2004 23:41:24 GMT, (Larry Hill) wrote:

They are just guessing. Any body out there know the answer? I don't.
Larry Hill

=====================================

I'm not guessing.

it all comes down to insurance as long as there are no passengers for
hire.

I think that captain from Exxon is still looking for a ship

Mick


"Paul Schilter" paulschilter@comcast,dot,net wrote in message
...
A friend and I were having a discussion, I stated that if I had the money
to
buy an ocean liner and just used it for personal pleasure (no paying
passengers) I didn't need a captain's (master's) license. I said that it
might be a bit of a problem finding someone willing to insure you though.
My
friend disagreed, he said that after 60 feet the boat required a captain's
license. (just to keep this post on topic to this newsgroup I'll state
that
my friend is a Republican and I'm basically a Democrat, but we don't
discuss
this at all.) :-) So I ask the group. was I correct? Also is there a point
(size wise) where insurance companies want you to have credentials such as
a
master's license or previous experience?
Paul

Larry,
I wasn't able to find a definitive answer on the Coast Guard site, it
just deals with commercial vessels. I've never read of anyone saying they
had trouble getting insurance because they didn't have enough experience for
a given boat size. I know that to get a Coast Guard Master's license you
first have to show two years experience on the size (tonnage) of boat your
getting the license for.
Paul

"Larry Hill" wrote in message
...

It all comes down to financing and insurance. Unless you own the boat
free and clear, you're going to need insurance. To get insurance, you
will need a qualified operator of the vessel. What that means is up
to the insurance company to decide.


IN OTHERWORDS, NO ONE WHO HAS ANSWERED SO FAR KNOWS FORE SURE!

They are just guessing. Any body out there know the answer? I don't.
Larry Hill

Shen,
If you'll notice after about 70 feet most of these boats come with crew
quarters for the reasons you state. A boat that large involves a lot of work
that most people that can afford the boat can also afford someone else to do
the work. I'd guess 60 foot would be the upper range for a couple to
operate. Have you ever heard of an insurance company denying coverage due to
experience?
Paul

"Shen44" wrote in message
...
Can't give you a definitive answer, however....
60 feet is not a criteria for a license in the US, though it could be
other
places.
Insurance will play a big part as to who operates this vessel.
Where you register/document it will also be a major factor (amazin what
you can
get away with when you have enough money and the right contacts)
BUT, if you can afford a ship that big, why would you want the headaches
associated with being the Master of such a vessel? Hire some flunky.

Shen

Mick,
Wasn't it the mate that put her on the rocks while the Captain was
asleep?
Paul

"Mickey" wrote in message
news:B%HLc.2715$ml.2649@lakeread05...
I think that captain from Exxon is still looking for a ship

Mick


"Paul Schilter" paulschilter@comcast,dot,net wrote in message
...
A friend and I were having a discussion, I stated that if I had the
money
to
buy an ocean liner and just used it for personal pleasure (no paying
passengers) I didn't need a captain's (master's) license. I said that it
might be a bit of a problem finding someone willing to insure you
though.
My
friend disagreed, he said that after 60 feet the boat required a
captain's
license. (just to keep this post on topic to this newsgroup I'll state
that
my friend is a Republican and I'm basically a Democrat, but we don't
discuss
this at all.) :-) So I ask the group. was I correct? Also is there a
point
(size wise) where insurance companies want you to have credentials such
as
a
master's license or previous experience?
Paul