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John Doe July 19th 04 01:25 AM

Why the word "dead" is not used in the context of deduced navigation
 

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
Thanks for taking your time to share this information. Though I am not a
world sailor, this is quite interesting. I never knew there was a

difference
in terminology regarding dead reckoning.


oh yeah, and there is a HUGE difference in the output between Ded and Dead
Reckoning. those who use ded rec are knowledgeable as to its

uncertainties,
while those who use dead rec are about to now, or will sometime in the

future,
hit the rocks. Assuming they sail at all.


As I said, I am not a world sailor. I rely on GPS and an accurate compass to
take me home. But then again, I am not more than 25 miles or so off shore.
However, I have heard the term used and assumed wrongly that it meant exact
knowledge of position. My hobby happens to be history and the old letters
and books I have read refer to dead reckoning of a position or course. This
thread is quite enlightening giving me a better understanding of the
intended words.

Thanks to all



JAXAshby July 19th 04 01:40 AM

Why the word "dead" is not used in the context of deduced navigation
 
I worked for two
semesters as an editor and project director of the National Union
Catalog, a project that involved alphabetizing and organizing the entire
card catalogue of the Library of Congress.


yup, THAT proves "dead bang on center" means horribly inaccurate.

way to go, hoary.

JAXAshby July 19th 04 01:41 AM

Why the word "dead" is not used in the context of deduced navigation
 
hoary, the Port Jeff stacks haven't puffed in nearly three decades.

oh yeah, and there is a HUGE difference in the output between Ded and Dead
Reckoning. those who use ded rec are knowledgeable as to its

uncertainties,
while those who use dead rec are about to now, or will sometime in the

future,
hit the rocks. Assuming they sail at all.


Give it up, Jax. You've got a ****ty little clapped out daysailer, and
probably couldn't navigate from Milford to Port Jefferson on a bright
sunny day with the Port Jeff stacks puffing.









JAXAshby July 19th 04 01:44 AM

Why the word "dead" is not used in the context of deduced navigation
 
As I said, I am not a world sailor. I rely on GPS and an accurate compass to
take me home.


enjoy, john. and don't worry about it, for in today's world there is no reason
not to have a gps or two onboard if there is any remote chance of needing it.

John Doe July 19th 04 01:53 AM

Why the word "dead" is not used in the context of deduced navigation
 

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
As I said, I am not a world sailor. I rely on GPS and an accurate compass

to
take me home.


enjoy, john. and don't worry about it, for in today's world there is no

reason
not to have a gps or two onboard if there is any remote chance of needing

it.

Thanks for the thread JAX. I am enjoying this one. Amazing what one can
learn!

Regards



Harry Krause July 19th 04 02:47 AM

Why the word "dead" is not used in the context of deduced navigation
 
JAXAshby wrote:

hoary, the Port Jeff stacks haven't puffed in nearly three decades.

oh yeah, and there is a HUGE difference in the output between Ded and Dead
Reckoning. those who use ded rec are knowledgeable as to its

uncertainties,
while those who use dead rec are about to now, or will sometime in the

future,
hit the rocks. Assuming they sail at all.


Give it up, Jax. You've got a ****ty little clapped out daysailer, and
probably couldn't navigate from Milford to Port Jefferson on a bright
sunny day with the Port Jeff stacks puffing.



Well, that's good to know. It's been a while since I spent the summer at
Woodmont, CT.

JAXAshby July 19th 04 11:18 AM

Why the word "dead" is not used in the context of deduced navigation
 
hoary, it has been a while since you did anything but bitch and whine.

hoary, the Port Jeff stacks haven't puffed in nearly three decades.

oh yeah, and there is a HUGE difference in the output between Ded and

Dead
Reckoning. those who use ded rec are knowledgeable as to its
uncertainties,
while those who use dead rec are about to now, or will sometime in the
future,
hit the rocks. Assuming they sail at all.

Give it up, Jax. You've got a ****ty little clapped out daysailer, and
probably couldn't navigate from Milford to Port Jefferson on a bright
sunny day with the Port Jeff stacks puffing.



Well, that's good to know. It's been a while since I spent the summer at
Woodmont, CT.









Harry Krause July 19th 04 01:14 PM

Why the word "dead" is not used in the context of deduced navigation
 
JohnH wrote:

On Sun, 18 Jul 2004 20:20:49 -0400, Harry Krause wrote:



Nice try, dipstick, but the sources I quoted are quite real, unlike the
imaginary gremlins that occupy your synapses. Ded or Dead is proper. If
you want to compare your education in and experience with etymology to
mine, why, you go right ahead. My master's degree in English is really
in etymology, and, as part of the requirements, I worked for two
semesters as an editor and project director of the National Union
Catalog, a project that involved alphabetizing and organizing the entire
card catalogue of the Library of Congress.

The definition I posted is from the second edition of the OED. There's
no knowledge you have that trumps the OED.


And, has your wife completed her second doctorate yet? Are there really people
who still believe this stuff from you, Harry?


John H



No, she hasn't. But, then, I never stated she did. Are you still taking
sexually oriented photos of minors, John?

JAXAshby July 19th 04 01:15 PM

Why the word "dead" is not used in the context of deduced navigation
 
And, has your wife completed her second doctorate yet? Are there really
people
who still believe this stuff from you, Harry?


John H


if hoary knew what the OED is, he would know it is a historical document, not
an arbitrator.

Harry Krause July 19th 04 01:28 PM

Why the word "dead" is not used in the context of deduced navigation
 
JAXAshby wrote:

And, has your wife completed her second doctorate yet? Are there really
people
who still believe this stuff from you, Harry?


John H


if hoary knew what the OED is, he would know it is a historical document, not
an arbitrator.



Most dictionaries are historial documents, ****-for-brains. The OED is
quite live, with a usually annual update, and, in fact, a completely new
third edition is in the works. I own two complete OEDs, plus the OED on
CD. Version 4.0 of the OED on CD is scheduled for release sometime this
fall. For about $700, you can buy a complete hardbound set of the
current OED, and for about $200 to $250, the same data on CD. Or you can
subscribe. The latter is a good bet, because it includes the updates as
they are produced.

I don't think you want to play word games with me, Mr. Speedo.


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