Shawn,

I bout a project boat two years ago which did not have a carb. I found a
place, Champion Parts, which sells remanufactured alternators, starters,
carbs and water pumps. I paid $230 without exchange for a rochester 4bbl
with remote choke, and they delivered immediately as promised!

By the looks of it, the original one for your applcation (5.0L) will cost
about $185 without exchange. Do it yourself, have the proper setup and
save about $600-$800 in the process!

The URL:

http://www.chanpionparts.net

Bob D. wrote:

By the looks of it, the original one for your applcation (5.0L) will cost
about $185 without exchange.

That's certainly much better than $400-$500.

Do it yourself, have the proper setup and save about $600-$800 in the
process!

Hmm, not sure if I want to go there, though :-) I can't say I'm not
mechanically inclined because I do okay when forced, but I can say I really
hate mucking about with that stuff.

http://www.chanpionparts.net

That's http://www.championparts.net, right?

Thanks for the tip!

Shawn.

Bob D. wrote:

By the looks of it, the original one for your applcation (5.0L) will cost
about $185 without exchange.

Question: Which carb were you thinking was right for me? It looks like the
one listed for a 5.0L is a 2BBL (MC60). Is it not possible to get a 4BBL
for this engine? It looks like most of the 4BBL carbs listed are remote
choke, not electric choke; am I right in assuming that "remote choke" means
some sort of mechanical connection, rather than electrical? I also notice
that there's no choke switch/lever on my control console, is that because
the electric choke is managed automatically somehow?

Sorry for the flood of questions... :-)

Shawn.

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Bob D. wrote:

By the looks of it, the original one for your applcation (5.0L) will cost
about $185 without exchange.

Question: Which carb were you thinking was right for me? It looks like the
one listed for a 5.0L is a 2BBL (MC60). Is it not possible to get a 4BBL
for this engine? It looks like most of the 4BBL carbs listed are remote
choke, not electric choke; am I right in assuming that "remote choke" means
some sort of mechanical connection, rather than electrical? I also notice
that there's no choke switch/lever on my control console, is that because
the electric choke is managed automatically somehow?

Sorry for the flood of questions... :-)

Shawn.

Yes, remote choke means mechanical. Electric choke manages itself.

My expectation is that if the previous owner went from 2bbl to 4bll he
may have also changed out the intake manifold (in order to accommodate
the 4bbl).

You'd look for a comparable 4bbl to the one on the engine now.

jps

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wrote:

You'd look for a comparable 4bbl to the one on the engine now.

jps

Good point.

Bob D. wrote:

In article , jps
wrote:

You'd look for a comparable 4bbl to the one on the engine now.

jps

Good point.

Right. Only problem is, it makes buying one over the web kinda hard for
someone like me who doesn't really understand which end goes up.

Guess I'd better look into return policies :-)

Shawn.

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Bob D. wrote:

In article , jps
wrote:

You'd look for a comparable 4bbl to the one on the engine now.

jps

Good point.

Right. Only problem is, it makes buying one over the web kinda hard for
someone like me who doesn't really understand which end goes up.

Guess I'd better look into return policies :-)

That is why you go buy a book on boat repairs. There are some real good
guides that will go into engine, drives and some general boat repair. I
would go to your local boat yard and look around. Most pull parts before
they junk boats or look on ebay or look in you phone book for used marine
parts. These kind of stores carry almost everything from hoses to
replacement gauges. I bet you can get everything you need for a reasonable
amount.

mark

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Right. Only problem is, it makes buying one over the web kinda hard for
someone like me who doesn't really understand which end goes up.

Guess I'd better look into return policies :-)

Shawn.

A few things, Shawn.

Get in touch with the owner you bought the boat from. DO NOT be
confrontational. Do not tell him the problems you are having. Simply
and politely ask him what he did in changing the carburetor setup, and if
he has the old parts available. If they're just sitting in his garage
he'll probably let them go cheap, if not free. While your at it,
enthusiastically ask what other "great modifications" he made to the boat.
If, despite your best efforts to be non-confrontational, the guy acts like
a prick, send him roadkill on a daily/weekly/monthly basis until catharsis
is acheived.

Call a marine place and explain the situation to them. Ask if the intake
manifold needed to be changed to accomodate the bad moddification, of if
there was just an adapter plate used. Ask if the Holley that is on there
can be directly replaced with a holly marine or rochester marine
counterpart. Call an aftermarket supplier like Champion (can you tell I
was pleased with them) and ask if you purchase multiple carbs, if you can
return the one(s) you don't use.

Don't feel bad. Even people who have years of experience with boats wind
up with problems they don't anticipate when buying used. Odds are if
your experienced helper wasn't a marine mechanic or surveyor they too
would have overlooked the non-marine carb problem (except for the spark
arrestor, that's pretty obvious to most powerboaters).

Buying a boat is a very emotional experience. In fact it's alot like
taking on a wife. You see her, fall in love, and will do anything to have
her. Your eyes are closed to many realities such as, can you afford to
have her? Can you afford to keep her? Can you faithfully rely upon her?
Your actual purchase is your marriage. Your first trip is your honeymoon,
and your first problem is the reality of marriage. For some couples the
reality of marriage hits before or during the honyemoon. Too many harsh
realities, and you fall out of love, with your broker acting as the
attorney.

So Shawn, you wanted her, you married her, and now the honeymoon is over.
Now open your eyes to what you have to do (money and/or time) to make this
marriage work for you, or cut your losses and get away from the bitch
ASAP, and find another.

Even if you find another, realize that monies will be spent. Even the
best boat, like any woman, is NEVER indefinitely satisfied with the status
quo. Additional monies will have to be spent somewhere down the road to
keep her. It may be less money than you current boat, which may be
acceptable to you.

No matter what boat you purchase, having to spend additional monies is all
but a truism in the pursuit of boating. If you cannot accept this fact,
you may need to consider joining the "tree hugger" monestary, and take a
vow of nautical celibacy :^)

Bob Dimond

Oh, and one more thing, Shawn.

Consider Fred, they guy who looked at your boat, the marriage councilor.
You can save money and work things out without fred, but it will require
more time, effort, and sacrifice on your part.

Remember, "it's all about her" now :^)

Bob Dimond

Bob D. wrote:

Call a marine place and explain the situation to them. Ask if the intake
manifold needed to be changed to accomodate the bad moddification, of if
there was just an adapter plate used.

Dropped the boat off to have it looked at last night.

Call an aftermarket supplier like Champion (can you tell I
was pleased with them) and ask if you purchase multiple carbs, if you can
return the one(s) you don't use.

That's a good suggestion, thanks.

Odds are if your experienced helper wasn't a marine mechanic or surveyor
they too would have overlooked the non-marine carb problem (except for
the spark arrestor, that's pretty obvious to most powerboaters).

Yep. It was my grandfather (a powerboater for 40+ years) who noticed the
missing arrestor, but he didn't realize the carb was wrong.

So Shawn, you wanted her, you married her, and now the honeymoon is over.
Now open your eyes to what you have to do (money and/or time) to make this
marriage work for you, or cut your losses and get away from the bitch
ASAP, and find another.

Hehe. Nice analogy. Actually, I'd think about cutting my losses on this
boat, but I doubt I could sell it easily if I told prospective buyers about
the problems and I couldn't live with myself if I didn't tell them. And I
still think this one will be a decent boat once I get it straightened out.

No matter what boat you purchase, having to spend additional monies is all
but a truism in the pursuit of boating.

Understood. The owner of one of the boats I looked at told me that boat is
really an acronym that stands for Break Out Another Thousand.

Shawn.