On 16 Jul 2004 13:28:25 GMT, (JAXAshby) wrote:

"steve", your knowledge base in telecom is 15 to 20 year obsolete. you had
better spruce up your skill set if you intend to stay employed. of course, if
your intention is to retire on unemployment benefits ...

Jox, you prove every time you post that your knowledge base in
everything is nonexistant.

Steve


From: (Steven Shelikoff)
Date: 7/16/2004 8:52 AM Eastern Daylight Time
Message-id:

On 16 Jul 2004 04:18:12 GMT, (JAXAshby) wrote:

"steve", you are speaking in1986 lingo. Come into the 21st Century. ARPANET
is
loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooong since
gone.

No it's not. It's still around, just under a different name. You think
the DOD puts everything on the public Internet?

There is a reason for that.

lol, I'd love to hear your reason why the arpanet is long gone.

btw, "steve" to get ARPANET connection you were authorized access by a
university research dept or by the Dept of Defense????????????

Both. But then again, this whole arpanet tangent is a red herring on
your part since it has absolutely nothing to do with usenet except that
it was a carrier for part of the usenet traffic. usenet used several
different carriers and is not an Internet Protocol.

Steve

Steven Shelikoff wrote:

You can get a
newsfeed without an ISP. The usenet has been around much longer than
the commercial internet as we know it today and for the most part used
UUCP to transfer messages. And you can still use that method without
having any internet access at all.

Oh, I used UUCP for mail and USENET 15+ years ago, but I thought it was
deader'n a doornail by the late 90s. It's certainly technically possible
to move a newsfeed via UUCP, but I have to wonder if you could actually
find anyone who would do it!

Me. I still use UUCP to connect a newsserver on a linux box without
using an internet connection to a newsfeed that has one. The reason for
doing it that way is more political (that I really don't want to get
into) then technical. But there may be other reasons as well, like the
type of access you may have in remote locations, to not use an ISP.

But back to the original point, it is possible to read and post to
usenet newsgroups without using an ISP ... and Jox just bring himself to
admit that's true.

Steve

"steve", your knowledge base in telecom is *almost* as bad as your knowledge
base in boats. Your knowledge base, however, in things engine is less than
zero.

I do hope you have left the telecom industry twenty years back, for if not you
are totally unemployable today, except in some grandfathered gov job.

"steve", your knowledge base in telecom is 15 to 20 year obsolete. you had
better spruce up your skill set if you intend to stay employed. of course,
if
your intention is to retire on unemployment benefits ...

Jox, you prove every time you post that your knowledge base in
everything is nonexistant.

Steve


From: (Steven Shelikoff)
Date: 7/16/2004 8:52 AM Eastern Daylight Time
Message-id:

On 16 Jul 2004 04:18:12 GMT, (JAXAshby) wrote:

"steve", you are speaking in1986 lingo. Come into the 21st Century.
ARPANET
is
looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ooooooooooooooooooooong
since
gone.

No it's not. It's still around, just under a different name. You think
the DOD puts everything on the public Internet?

There is a reason for that.

lol, I'd love to hear your reason why the arpanet is long gone.

btw, "steve" to get ARPANET connection you were authorized access by a
university research dept or by the Dept of Defense????????????

Both. But then again, this whole arpanet tangent is a red herring on
your part since it has absolutely nothing to do with usenet except that
it was a carrier for part of the usenet traffic. usenet used several
different carriers and is not an Internet Protocol.

Steve

Steven Shelikoff wrote:

You can get a
newsfeed without an ISP. The usenet has been around much longer than
the commercial internet as we know it today and for the most part used
UUCP to transfer messages. And you can still use that method without
having any internet access at all.

Oh, I used UUCP for mail and USENET 15+ years ago, but I thought it was
deader'n a doornail by the late 90s. It's certainly technically
possible
to move a newsfeed via UUCP, but I have to wonder if you could actually
find anyone who would do it!

Me. I still use UUCP to connect a newsserver on a linux box without
using an internet connection to a newsfeed that has one. The reason for
doing it that way is more political (that I really don't want to get
into) then technical. But there may be other reasons as well, like the
type of access you may have in remote locations, to not use an ISP.

But back to the original point, it is possible to read and post to
usenet newsgroups without using an ISP ... and Jox just bring himself to
admit that's true.

Steve

On 16 Jul 2004 14:13:17 GMT, (JAXAshby) wrote:

"steve", your knowledge base in telecom is *almost* as bad as your knowledge
base in boats. Your knowledge base, however, in things engine is less than
zero.

I do hope you have left the telecom industry twenty years back, for if not you
are totally unemployable today, except in some grandfathered gov job.

You're the one who doesn't even know that the DoD has their own router
based network separate from the internet for stuff they don't want you
to be able to see. Probably because it's too new for you... it only
started up around 10 years ago.

I'll give you a hint: just google up SIPRNET and learn something for a
change.

Steve

dood, that happened looooooooooooooooong ago, and in fact a **direct** result
of that is the Internet as we know it today.

sorta like spark plugs you find on those Perkins 4-108's you say are common as
drive engines on longliner fishing boats in New England.

of course, if you wish to continue to use Baudot coding, have at it.

From: (Steven Shelikoff)
Date: 7/16/2004 5:43 PM Eastern Daylight Time
Message-id:

On 16 Jul 2004 14:13:17 GMT, (JAXAshby) wrote:

"steve", your knowledge base in telecom is *almost* as bad as your knowledge
base in boats. Your knowledge base, however, in things engine is less than
zero.

I do hope you have left the telecom industry twenty years back, for if not
you
are totally unemployable today, except in some grandfathered gov job.

You're the one who doesn't even know that the DoD has their own router
based network separate from the internet for stuff they don't want you
to be able to see. Probably because it's too new for you... it only
started up around 10 years ago.

I'll give you a hint: just google up SIPRNET and learn something for a
change.

Steve

On 17 Jul 2004 03:05:21 GMT, (JAXAshby) wrote:

dood, that happened looooooooooooooooong ago, and in fact a **direct** result
of that is the Internet as we know it today.

See, so you really have no idea what you're talking about. SIPRNET just
started in 1994, well after the internet went commercial. And it's
still growing today.

sorta like spark plugs you find on those Perkins 4-108's you say are common as
drive engines on longliner fishing boats in New England.

Lol. You're halucinating again. Did you dream that up in your stupor
last night? Time for you to go back to rehab. The last try didn't
take.

Steve

ARPANET, dood, ARPANET. when DOD released the internet to the general public,
looooooooooooooooooooong ago, DOD had in place its own, more secure,
replacement.

now, about those spark plugs you claim longliners have in their Perkins 4-108
main drive engines ...

dood, that happened looooooooooooooooong ago, and in fact a **direct**
result
of that is the Internet as we know it today.

See, so you really have no idea what you're talking about. SIPRNET just
started in 1994, well after the internet went commercial. And it's
still growing today.

sorta like spark plugs you find on those Perkins 4-108's you say are common
as
drive engines on longliner fishing boats in New England.

Lol. You're halucinating again. Did you dream that up in your stupor
last night? Time for you to go back to rehab. The last try didn't
take.

Steve

On 17 Jul 2004 20:30:35 GMT, (JAXAshby) wrote:

ARPANET, dood, ARPANET. when DOD released the internet to the general public,
looooooooooooooooooooong ago, DOD had in place its own, more secure,
replacement.

now, about those spark plugs you claim longliners have in their Perkins 4-108
main drive engines ...

Jox, rehab is your friend. Don't you know anyone who likes you enough
for an intervention? Probably not.

Steve