Then we will start discussing it 30 years ago.

dumb try, over the knee. dumb.

From: otnmbrd
Date: 8/7/2004 2:34 PM Eastern Daylight Time
Message-id: . net

When you learn what "pilotage" is, come on back and we'll discuss it.

otn

JAXAshby wrote:
over the knee, you be stew ped if you believe you can increase the accuracy
of
DR just by changing the practise to that of pilotage, while leaving the old
name intact.

just admit it, you did not know the difference prior.


As for "DR" .... define it and use it any way you want, but don't try
and tell me *how* it should be defined and/or used or can be used, as
you don't have the training, experience, knowledge, background,
etc.,etc., to do so.


no master mariner -- as you proclaim yourself to be -- confuses DR with
pilotage. It is the same as claiming to be a 1,000,000 mile trucker and
confuse a two-speed axel with an overdrive transmission.


ROFL Jax, you must be really hard up for an argument.
When you get past some simplistic definition you've read somewhere and
get some experience in the "doing", come on back and we'll talk.

otn

kriste almighty, gene, learn to read your own cites. what you quoted is not
even remotely associated with what you claim. not even close.

No, Jax, that is the word I meant to use. It means having the power to
produce
the desired result. http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=efficacy

Last I checked, using vector quantities was not fuzzy science...

it is if you use fuzzy data. duh.

the one that you said ded reckoning can't be used for
IFR.... ROFLMAO.... yep, I remember

DR and IFR are mutually exclusive terms. duh.

was too stupid a statement for anybody to
make, even for you, but no.... you did say..... "If you know where you are,
you
aren't lost."

well, IF you have ***reference*** points THEN you know where your are, and
therefore are NOT lost. if on the other hand you do not have reference points,
then you are lost.

gene, maybe you don't know what the word "reference" means?

On 07 Aug 2004 21:20:00 GMT, (JAXAshby) wrote:

was too stupid a statement for anybody to
make, even for you, but no.... you did say..... "If you know where you are,
you
aren't lost."

well, IF you have ***reference*** points THEN you know where your are, and
therefore are NOT lost. if on the other hand you do not have reference points,
then you are lost.

According to Jox, if you can see the sun (a known ***reference*** point)
then you know where you are and are not lost.

Steve

way to go, schlackoff, you are beginning to understand. soon you will realize
that you need more than one reference point, but certainly the sun can be used
for one of them. In fact, the sun has been used as a reference point for
sailing for maybe a thousand years.

attaboy, schlackoff. attaboy.

was too stupid a statement for anybody to
make, even for you, but no.... you did say..... "If you know where you
are,
you
aren't lost."

well, IF you have ***reference*** points THEN you know where your are, and
therefore are NOT lost. if on the other hand you do not have reference
points,
then you are lost.

According to Jox, if you can see the sun (a known ***reference*** point)
then you know where you are and are not lost.

Steve

BG I'm still trying to get you to tell us what you're talking about.
Piloting or pilotage, and if pilotage, are you talking a piloting or fees?

otn

JAXAshby wrote:
Then we will start discussing it 30 years ago.

dumb try, over the knee. dumb.


From: otnmbrd
Date: 8/7/2004 2:34 PM Eastern Daylight Time
Message-id: . net

When you learn what "pilotage" is, come on back and we'll discuss it.

otn

JAXAshby wrote:

over the knee, you be stew ped if you believe you can increase the accuracy

of

DR just by changing the practise to that of pilotage, while leaving the old
name intact.

just admit it, you did not know the difference prior.



As for "DR" .... define it and use it any way you want, but don't try
and tell me *how* it should be defined and/or used or can be used, as
you don't have the training, experience, knowledge, background,
etc.,etc., to do so.


no master mariner -- as you proclaim yourself to be -- confuses DR with
pilotage. It is the same as claiming to be a 1,000,000 mile trucker and
confuse a two-speed axel with an overdrive transmission.


ROFL Jax, you must be really hard up for an argument.
When you get past some simplistic definition you've read somewhere and
get some experience in the "doing", come on back and we'll talk.

otn