gene, Instrument Flight Rules are NOT DR. kriste almighty, dood, wake up.

the one that you said ded reckoning can't be used for
IFR.... ROFLMAO.... yep, I remember

DR and IFR are mutually exclusive terms. duh.

Care to post *ANY* creditable laws or rules to support that? I filed AND
flow
DR flight plans.... with ATC's knowledge and blessing. And so did a number
of
other posters that pointed out your folly.




--
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not in IFR conditions you didn't.

make that: I have filed AND flown DR flight plans....

besides, I believe you are confusing the term DR with VFR, not an uncommon
mistake for someone who has never flown an airplane and knows nothing about
flying an airplane.

so, gene, care to point out the specific passage (cut and paste, if you please)
wherein it states one can "fly blind" (as DR is referred in aviation) in IFR
conditions?

Care to post *ANY* creditable laws or rules to support that?

I'll give you a hint where to look 14 CFR 91...

gene, "flying blind" in IFR conditions is illegal, and has been for seventy
some years. kriste almighty, gene, it took you decades to get an A & E license
18 year old boys get in a year. knock it off about DRing a 747 across the
Atlantic. face the fact, gene, you simply don't know what the term means and
you are pretending otherwise.

not in IFR conditions you didn't.

make that: I have filed AND flown DR flight plans....

besides, I believe you are confusing the term DR with VFR, not an uncommon
mistake for someone who has never flown an airplane and knows nothing about
flying an airplane.

There are only three types of flight plans VFR, IFR, and DVFR.... and any of
them may include DR components. So sorry for your ignorance..... Again, if
you
doubt me, check 14 CFR 91.




--
23' Grady White, out of Southport, NC.

http://myworkshop.idleplay.net/cavern/ Homepage
http://www.southharbourvillageinn.com/directions.asp Where Southport,NC is
located.
http://southharbourvillageinn.linksysnet.com Real Time
Pictures at My Marina
http://www.thebayguide.com/rec.boats Rec.boats at
Lee Yeaton's Bayguide

gene, you lazy squat. cut and paste and be done with it. you can't, of
course, so either show us you can or shut up about it.

btw, "flying blind" means withOUT instruments (as in "blind"), and much later
flying in conditions where only instruments can save your sorry ass.

btw dood you should NEVER get in the left seat of an aircraft. you will die,
screaming.

so, gene, care to point out the specific passage (cut and paste, if you
please)
wherein it states one can "fly blind" (as DR is referred in aviation) in IFR
conditions?


You are the one that stated it was not legal to do so. Here, in electronic
form, which should be easy for *you* to cut and paste, are the appropriate,
applicable FARs. http://tinyurl.com/5u4q7

If you make a claim it is on *you* to support same, not on the posters that
call
your hand on such outrageous and unsupported positions.

So, Jax, please point out the specific passage (cut and paste, if you please)
wherein it states one can "fly blind" (as DR is referred in aviation) in IFR
conditions........

Oh, yeah, sorry Jax, but the term "fly blind" refers to flight solely on
instruments.... sort of the definition of IFR, eh? See:
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/fly%20blind


Care to post *ANY* creditable laws or rules to support that?

I'll give you a hint where to look 14 CFR 91...









--
23' Grady White, out of Southport, NC.

http://myworkshop.idleplay.net/cavern/ Homepage
http://www.southharbourvillageinn.com/directions.asp Where Southport,NC is
located.
http://southharbourvillageinn.linksysnet.com Real Time
Pictures at My Marina
http://www.thebayguide.com/rec.boats Rec.boats at
Lee Yeaton's Bayguide

gene, you are ranting. cut and paste and be done with it, you lazy sack of
squat.

gene, "flying blind" in IFR conditions is illegal, and has been for seventy
some years. kriste almighty, gene, it took you decades to get an A & E
license
18 year old boys get in a year. knock it off about DRing a 747 across the
Atlantic. face the fact, gene, you simply don't know what the term means
and
you are pretending otherwise.



So, post the proof, genius... I've already provided the link.... I've
already
done most of the work for you. You can produce the rule that proves you are
not
full of feces, right. Jax? Jax? Hellooooo?




--
23' Grady White, out of Southport, NC.

http://myworkshop.idleplay.net/cavern/ Homepage
http://www.southharbourvillageinn.com/directions.asp Where Southport,NC is
located.
http://southharbourvillageinn.linksysnet.com Real Time
Pictures at My Marina
http://www.thebayguide.com/rec.boats Rec.boats at
Lee Yeaton's Bayguide

JAXAshby wrote:
gene, you are ranting. cut and paste and be done with it, you lazy sack of
squat.


JAx...why don't you take that clapped-out, piddlin' little sailboat of
yours out for a sail in the Bay?


--
"There's an old saying in Tennessee - I know it's in Texas, probably in
Tennessee - that says, fool me once, shame on - shame on you. Fool me -
you can't get fooled again." -George W. Bush, Nashville, Tenn., Sept.
17, 2002

gene, the term "instruments" used in the aviation context it was used in means
"certified for Instrument Flight Rules" instruments. you would know that if
you were ever qualified to fly the left seat without an instructor aboard.

gene, you lazy squat. cut and paste and be done with it. you can't, of
course, so either show us you can or shut up about it.


It's up to you, genius. For a physics guru like you, a simple cut and paste
should be easy. Right? So where *is* that rule, Jax.....

btw, "flying blind" means withOUT instruments (as in "blind"), and much
later
flying in conditions where only instruments can save your sorry ass.


Stoopid, stoopid, stoopid.... that statement is de facto idiotic. First, I
provided the link to prove that "flying blind" is properly defined, for
everybody but you, as flying with reference to instruments. Second, if in
JaxWorld, flying blind has anything to do with not using any instrument, it
couldn't have anything to do DR, because that requires some sort of compass
and
a time measurement device.

btw dood you should NEVER get in the left seat of an aircraft. you will
die,
screaming.


I'll keep that in mind this morning.... if I post again after about 2PM,
you'll
be wrong again.





--
23' Grady White, out of Southport, NC.

http://myworkshop.idleplay.net/cavern/ Homepage
http://www.southharbourvillageinn.com/directions.asp Where Southport,NC is
located.
http://southharbourvillageinn.linksysnet.com Real Time
Pictures at My Marina
http://www.thebayguide.com/rec.boats Rec.boats at
Lee Yeaton's Bayguide

Watching Jax argue about the proper usage of of various words/phrases
(pilotage/piloting, ded reckoning/dead reckoning, flying blind/IFR,
etc.) is always amusing.
Generally, the fact that he gets hung up on one interpretation and can't
accept or see other interpretations, simply tells us he doesn't know
what he's talking about.
On the rare occasions when he goes into some navigation exercise or
procedure it becomes absolutely clear, he doesn't.

otn

Subject: Huh? Diesel engines don't last 800 hours before major repairs??
From: (JAXAshby)
Date: 08/07/2004 16:05 Pacific Standard Time
Message-id:

back in the 1920's, ships (and aircraft, at least some of them) had RDF,
specifically to avoid the dangers of DRing.

G Not everywhere, jax, and by this statement, we realize that this is another
area you know little about.

Shen