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Bill O'Reilly's Talking Points kicks Liberal lying sacks in the teeth on al-Qaida Saddamn links
On Tue, 22 Jun 2004 13:41:27 -0400, John H
wrote: On 22 Jun 2004 14:39:14 GMT, (Gould 0738) wrote: FASCINATING DEMONSTRATION of conservbative logic. 1. Make an assumption 2. Declare you own assumption "true" 2. (a) Make additional assumptions that rely on the truth of the previous assumption. 3. Decide your newly discovered truth is holy writ and become self righteous in its promulgation. Thanks for sharing! Dave Hall wrote: So, judging from your definition, a "new" conservative is someone who used to be something else but is now conservative. Since the ideological opposite of conservative is liberal, then following that logic, the conclusion can be drawn that a "new" conservative is most likely an "old" liberal. A former liberal who now, after having to move out of their parent's house, getting a job of their own, starting a family, and realizing how the world really works, has now matured and come to the realization that liberal idealism is a joke, which tries to force equality where it can't exist naturally. Consequently, their viewpoint have changed to embrace what traditional conservative values are. So a "neo conservative" is a liberal convert. Seems to be a lot of those lately. Liberalism is having a tough time holding on to people over the age of 30. Unless, of course, they haven't yet achieved anything, and still look to the government for "help"...... Dave Maybe Dave just used a fairly standard and respected source for his definition, Meriam-Webster's dictionary, which defines a neoconservative: a former liberal espousing political conservatism. It was even simpler than that. I just applied a chain of simple logic based on the definitions previously provided. If "neo" is new, then if someone is a "neo"conservative, that implies that they were previously something else. The most common "other" ideology would be a liberal. Therefore, a "new" conservative would most likely be an "old" liberal. Of course there is always a few exceptions to this (A disclaimer for guys like Doug K, who like to construct strawman rebuttals to prove those few exceptions, as if that invalidates the rule). So, his initial assumption was pretty darn correct. However, since Webster's does not put any time reference in its definition, the assumption that the liberal who switched must be old is just that - an assumption. The term "old" does not refer so much to a particular age, as it does to a previous position. There are both young and old neoconservatives. It's never too late to wake up and smell the coffee ;-) Many of us, during high school and college, considered ourselves "liberal," but woke up and realized that the rhetoric dealing with helping the poor was just that. The name of the game is power, whether the clothing is sheep's or not. Experience and cynicism will do that to a person. I was very idealistic when I was in school. Life's hard lessons soon evaporated that. Dave |
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