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I have a 230hp 305, with a Mercruiser Alpha 1 (1986) and this year when I
run the engine there are a strong smell of gas fumes, the engine is running rich. It also runs a little rough. Would turning the mixture screw fix both of these issues? I had the carb rebuilt 2 years ago, and tuned up the engine the same time. It's not running that rough, and but rougher than last year. How long do spark plugs and wire last? I also have electronic ignition if that matters. Thanks, Glenn |
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![]() "Glenn Deneweth" wrote in message ... I have a 230hp 305, with a Mercruiser Alpha 1 (1986) and this year when I run the engine there are a strong smell of gas fumes, the engine is running rich. It also runs a little rough. Would turning the mixture screw fix both of these issues? The screws only adjust the idle mixture. If you get the symptoms at anything above idle then this won't help. How do you know the engine is running rich? A strong smell of gas is bad, so you should solve that problem ASAP. Rod |
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I should mention there's no performance issues....Just a rough idle and
strong gas smell... "Glenn Deneweth" wrote in message ... I have a 230hp 305, with a Mercruiser Alpha 1 (1986) and this year when I run the engine there are a strong smell of gas fumes, the engine is running rich. It also runs a little rough. Would turning the mixture screw fix both of these issues? I had the carb rebuilt 2 years ago, and tuned up the engine the same time. It's not running that rough, and but rougher than last year. How long do spark plugs and wire last? I also have electronic ignition if that matters. Thanks, Glenn |
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hi Glenn
If you smell gas fumes then look for gas leak. A leak could be the fuel tank, or a fuel line, gas tank, or fuel pump. It could be that the screws that hold the carburetor together have become loose. Try checking tightness of carburetor screws with screwdriver checking each one (top of carb might have 6 screws, 4 for accelerator pump on side of carb). Check the fuel filter if it is an inline filter for loose connection on the hose, if its a plastic inline filter check for cracks. Inside the carburetor there is a float bowl vent. If the float bowl overflows then gas can pour out of the vent and be a hazard. A stuck inlet needle or a pice of dirt between the inlet needle and the inlet needle seat can cause fuel to overflow. Wires can last for years. A common test for wires is to examine the wires is by bending the wire across your finger and looking for cracks in the insulation, if it shows cracks then replace. If the rubber insulation is still pliable then they're usually still good. Wires that touch each other can spark between each other causing engine misfire, poor performance, and be an ignition source in engine compartments. There are ignition wire spacers to prevent wires from arching they can be bought at an auto ports store. Due to the fact that you have electronic ignition the plugs probably burn clean. Removing the plugs for inspection is usually the only way to see if they are still good. Plugs can be cleaned and re-used, but on the water new plugs are most reliable. If your engine is running rough, and you suspect some fuel connection. The carburetor's gaskets keep the fuel inside and vacuum from sucking air into the carburetor. If your carb's gaskets are loose then it is possible your getting a vacuum leak and poor performance. I'm not a marine mechanic but have worked on my cars for over 20 years and rebuilt about 6 carburetors. I had the float bowl over flow problem. Loose screws on the carb a year later problem where I seemed to smell gas vapors. After tightening the screws again no vapor smells. Marine carburetors are different than automobile carburetors. These are some of the benefits of a marine carb: Spring loaded needle/seat Internally vented fuel bowl Sealed accelerator pump shaft I don't know that these will prevent you from smelling fuel vapors. But failure of any fuel system can cause a leak. If you don't know what to do or the tools or experience then a mechanic can be worth the money. If you break down on the water or blow your boat up, a mechanic can save you more than your money spent. Greg "Glenn Deneweth" wrote in message ... I should mention there's no performance issues....Just a rough idle and strong gas smell... "Glenn Deneweth" wrote in message ... I have a 230hp 305, with a Mercruiser Alpha 1 (1986) and this year when I run the engine there are a strong smell of gas fumes, the engine is running rich. It also runs a little rough. Would turning the mixture screw fix both of these issues? I had the carb rebuilt 2 years ago, and tuned up the engine the same time. It's not running that rough, and but rougher than last year. How long do spark plugs and wire last? I also have electronic ignition if that matters. Thanks, Glenn |
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![]() Rod McInnis wrote: The screws only adjust the idle mixture. If you get the symptoms at anything above idle then this won't help. How do you know the engine is running rich? When running at idle, the smell of gas is strong from the exhaust, there is no smell inside the boat, it's only from when the boat is running, I noticed a couple other boats on my finger doing the same thing. |
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![]() Gregory McGuire wrote: If you smell gas fumes then look for gas leak. A leak could be the fuel tank, or a fuel line, gas tank, or fuel pump. I should of been more specific, it's coming from the exhaust. I was also thinking maybe the choke is sticking? Wires can last for years. A common test for wires is to examine the wires is by bending the wire across your finger and looking for cracks in the insulation, if it shows cracks then replace. If the rubber insulation is still pliable then they're usually still good. Wires that touch each other can spark between each other causing engine misfire, poor performance, and be an ignition source in engine compartments. There are ignition wire spacers to prevent wires from arching they can be bought at an auto ports store. Good advice I will inspect the wires tonight. Due to the fact that you have electronic ignition the plugs probably burn clean. Removing the plugs for inspection is usually the only way to see if they are still good. Plugs can be cleaned and re-used, but on the water new plugs are most reliable. I will also inspect a plug tonight... Thanks, Glenn |
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glenn
Could it be a stuck choke - sitting for so long? take off air cleaner - spray with choke cleaner / carburetor cleaner....you can clean the linkage with it too. Test your results. Is the engine cold with rough idle or hot/operating temperature? greg p.s. I have been trying to find other articles on internet with same problem. You could be running too rich, finding out why is that hard part to figure out. "Glenn Deneweth" wrote in message ... Gregory McGuire wrote: If you smell gas fumes then look for gas leak. A leak could be the fuel tank, or a fuel line, gas tank, or fuel pump. I should of been more specific, it's coming from the exhaust. I was also thinking maybe the choke is sticking? Wires can last for years. A common test for wires is to examine the wires is by bending the wire across your finger and looking for cracks in the insulation, if it shows cracks then replace. If the rubber insulation is still pliable then they're usually still good. Wires that touch each other can spark between each other causing engine misfire, poor performance, and be an ignition source in engine compartments. There are ignition wire spacers to prevent wires from arching they can be bought at an auto ports store. Good advice I will inspect the wires tonight. Due to the fact that you have electronic ignition the plugs probably burn clean. Removing the plugs for inspection is usually the only way to see if they are still good. Plugs can be cleaned and re-used, but on the water new plugs are most reliable. I will also inspect a plug tonight... Thanks, Glenn |
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Probably either a sticking choke or the carb needs another rebuild. As
suggested - spray it good w/ carb cleaner and try it. As for plugs - They will easily last 2 years if you are not using the boat every day. Pull a couple and look at them. They should be fine but are probably black from the rich condition. As for plug wires - I would definetly be changing them unless they were changed 2 years ago also. I would purchase a set of Taylor Universal, V8, blue, Hi-Energy wires for $30.00 from www.summitracing.com These are 8mm wires that will probably outlast the boat at this point. You will have to cut the end and fit to length but a standard wire crimper will work for this. Don't use the cheap $17.99 wires from AutoZone or Advance or Wal-Mart. I would not spend $60.00 or more for a Merc set either. You might also find them at a local performance auto/truck parts store. Check the yellow pages. I think the blue ones look cool - they even looked good on my cruiser. However, I did put a set of red ones on my truck since it is red. -- Tony my boats at http://t.thomas.home.mchsi.com "Glenn Deneweth" wrote in message ... I have a 230hp 305, with a Mercruiser Alpha 1 (1986) and this year when I run the engine there are a strong smell of gas fumes, the engine is running rich. It also runs a little rough. Would turning the mixture screw fix both of these issues? I had the carb rebuilt 2 years ago, and tuned up the engine the same time. It's not running that rough, and but rougher than last year. How long do spark plugs and wire last? I also have electronic ignition if that matters. Thanks, Glenn |
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![]() Gregory McGuire writes... Could it be a stuck choke - sitting for so long? take off air cleaner - spray with choke cleaner / carburetor cleaner....you can clean the linkage with it too. Test your results. Is the engine cold with rough idle or hot/operating temperature? The engine is cold when I notice the rough idling.... |
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Glenn,
When you first start it your choke is usually on because it is cold. This will usually make it run richer. After it warms up, is the choke going off? -- Bill Kiene Kiene's Fly Shop Sacramento, CA, USA Web site: www.kiene.com "Glenn Deneweth" wrote in message ... I have a 230hp 305, with a Mercruiser Alpha 1 (1986) and this year when I run the engine there are a strong smell of gas fumes, the engine is running rich. It also runs a little rough. Would turning the mixture screw fix both of these issues? I had the carb rebuilt 2 years ago, and tuned up the engine the same time. It's not running that rough, and but rougher than last year. How long do spark plugs and wire last? I also have electronic ignition if that matters. Thanks, Glenn |
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